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September 04, 2023, 01:55:33 PM
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Gambling streamers really influence gamblers and even people who have never gambled before. There are still some gamblers who are still influenced by gambling streamers, which makes them increase their bets like crazy.
With many gambling streamers doing live streaming videos via social media, this can influence someone who has never even gambled to become a gambler. And in my opinion, live streaming videos on social media need to be limited because this is very dangerous and even someone who is not old enough and has the ability to control emotions well can join in gambling. Because remembering that it's not just adults who are members of social media, but many children who are not yet old enough are also members of social media.


The marketing strategy of the gambling site will be very spicy and it attract the gamblers of other sites.It also attract the people who never gamble before,the people will try for one using the bonus from the gambling site.If thy loss some money,then some of them stop the game.Other will start to gamble for the longer period.The live streaming of video in social media should be banned,because it made many people into the gambling addiction.The social media should take responsibility on this steaming to avoid of many gambling addict and many crime in future.

It's an easy access nowadays and like what you mentioned social media or those who are streaming online give that idea to many both old timers and newcomers, with that streaming videos that being shared online interest attracts more people to try some luck, they are being influence especially if those people behind is someone that they are following.

I used to remember those comedians who at first they are just sharing funny reels and videos but eventually they become influencer and advertisers of newly created gambling sites, not sure what happened, the last time I know the site stop paying those gamblers and streamers act as they are also victims.

Yes, marketing now is a business that anyone can do, and they don't have to work very hard, the streamers who are now doing things, live broadcasts and everything we can imagine, but those who are dedicated to making live broadcasts with a specific casino they can have the opportunity from that casino to get paid for good advertising, and it is not bad, because a casino can always pay very well and those who get into the marketing business, if they do it well They earn a lot of money and that, based on what they can do with a casino, is double what they can achieve, so it is a profitable business.
I agree with your statement when you said that casinos pay their marketers really well, this is so true, I think when it comes to service that pay the highest to influencer or streamers, such service is the gambling casino, I've previously read on Reddit, how Stake paid a streamer $1 million dollars for a couple of stream shows I believe, since I personally can not believe that any gambling casino, no matter how rich, will lavish such an amount of money on single stream show ..

So yeah, marketing have indeed become a very lucrative profession, but then, doing this without skill and experience, and no one guilding you can be really really frustrating.

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September 04, 2023, 04:11:43 PM
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If some things must be banned to reduce or stop crime in our societies, then let the government first succeed in banning the production of Alcohols, hard drugs, cigarettes and weeds etc. All this things cause more crimes to be committed in our societies than gambling addiction.
Looks like you are exaggerating broo.. If you speculate that the government must first succeed in banning the production of alcohol, hard drugs, cigarettes and marijuana and so on. This still provides benefits, especially when talking about narcotics, it is very beneficial in the pharmaceutical field. It is not the production that must be prohibited, but the distribution that must be controlled because many people still abuse it.

likewise with gambling. it is not the gambling activity that must be stopped because this will be rejected by various parties, but in gambling site advertising it must be controlled because I reiterate that those who are and are involved in social media are not only adults but also many children who are not old enough. So promotions carried out by gambling sites must be controlled because this can attract people who are not old enough. have not been able to control yourself properly and think carefully. can join in gambling.

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September 04, 2023, 06:32:58 PM
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Making loses in gambling is normal and it's not something that we need to see as a weakness and or way that we are nit trying our best. Since we are not the only one that is a gambler, there arf other people too whose aim is the same with us so we need to see gambling as an activity of losing and winning. If you lose today, you need to accept your faith and if it is a win then that's our luck. Sometimes luck can shine on us even when we do not expect at all. In all we do, we should always try our best to gamble responsible.
Indeed, losing in gambling is commonplace. And don't gamble if you don't want to lose, because losses and losses in gambling are certain. But the victory is based on luck and your skills when playing gambling. but there are still people who act silly and continue playing after losing in a row and that only deepens the losses we experience. and this is what we must avoid.
and it is true that we must continue to strive to gamble responsibly. When we have made an effort there are two possibilities, namely; succeed and fail. Meanwhile, when you just stay silent without any effort, there is only one possibility that you will become a failure.

Knowing the risks doesn't exempt you from becoming an addict.
When a person already knows the risks he is experiencing or is facing. then a person will continue to look for solutions to deal with all of this or they will try to avoid these risks.

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September 04, 2023, 06:42:09 PM
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Making loses in gambling is normal and it's not something that we need to see as a weakness and or way that we are nit trying our best. Since we are not the only one that is a gambler, there arf other people too whose aim is the same with us so we need to see gambling as an activity of losing and winning. If you lose today, you need to accept your faith and if it is a win then that's our luck. Sometimes luck can shine on us even when we do not expect at all. In all we do, we should always try our best to gamble responsible.
Indeed, losing in gambling is commonplace. And don't gamble if you don't want to lose, because losses and losses in gambling are certain. But the victory is based on luck and your skills when playing gambling. but there are still people who act silly and continue playing after losing in a row and that only deepens the losses we experience. and this is what we must avoid.
and it is true that we must continue to strive to gamble responsibly. When we have made an effort there are two possibilities, namely; succeed and fail. Meanwhile, when you just stay silent without any effort, there is only one possibility that you will become a failure.

Knowing the risks doesn't exempt you from becoming an addict.
When a person already knows the risks he is experiencing or is facing. then a person will continue to look for solutions to deal with all of this or they will try to avoid these risks.

What else do we really need to know about gambling and it's risk involved than what is expected of us to be careful in betting, knowing that whenever we play, we have the chance to loose or win, they we should always gambling with the rate of amount we could afford to loose, if we want to play less of risk while gambling, then we shouldn't force ourselves gambling when we think we are not financially capacitated and we should not borrow money to gamble as well, because when gambling, it's either we loose or win and there's more likely possibilities for loosing than winning.

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September 04, 2023, 10:14:16 PM
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Gambling streamers really influence gamblers and even people who have never gambled before. There are still some gamblers who are still influenced by gambling streamers, which makes them increase their bets like crazy.
With many gambling streamers doing live streaming videos via social media, this can influence someone who has never even gambled to become a gambler. And in my opinion, live streaming videos on social media need to be limited because this is very dangerous and even someone who is not old enough and has the ability to control emotions well can join in gambling. Because remembering that it's not just adults who are members of social media, but many children who are not yet old enough are also members of social media.


The marketing strategy of the gambling site will be very spicy and it attract the gamblers of other sites.It also attract the people who never gamble before,the people will try for one using the bonus from the gambling site.If thy loss some money,then some of them stop the game.Other will start to gamble for the longer period.The live streaming of video in social media should be banned,because it made many people into the gambling addiction.The social media should take responsibility on this steaming to avoid of many gambling addict and many crime in future.

It's an easy access nowadays and like what you mentioned social media or those who are streaming online give that idea to many both old timers and newcomers, with that streaming videos that being shared online interest attracts more people to try some luck, they are being influence especially if those people behind is someone that they are following.

I used to remember those comedians who at first they are just sharing funny reels and videos but eventually they become influencer and advertisers of newly created gambling sites, not sure what happened, the last time I know the site stop paying those gamblers and streamers act as they are also victims.

Yes, marketing now is a business that anyone can do, and they don't have to work very hard, the streamers who are now doing things, live broadcasts and everything we can imagine, but those who are dedicated to making live broadcasts with a specific casino they can have the opportunity from that casino to get paid for good advertising, and it is not bad, because a casino can always pay very well and those who get into the marketing business, if they do it well They earn a lot of money and that, based on what they can do with a casino, is double what they can achieve, so it is a profitable business.

Lol marketing is a part of business activity and it isn't just happened right now, it was done centuries ago even before our ancestor was born.

About streamers, it is indeed a profitable venture if the streamer happen to get sponsored by a casino.  Since these streamers can have an income on views generated by the platform and at the same time get paid by the casino.  I like streamers that always remind their viewers to gamble responsibly and that any amazing result on the stream has nothing to do with the viewers gambling experience since the result of gambling is always random.

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September 05, 2023, 12:49:49 PM
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Making loses in gambling is normal and it's not something that we need to see as a weakness and or way that we are nit trying our best. Since we are not the only one that is a gambler, there arf other people too whose aim is the same with us so we need to see gambling as an activity of losing and winning. If you lose today, you need to accept your faith and if it is a win then that's our luck. Sometimes luck can shine on us even when we do not expect at all. In all we do, we should always try our best to gamble responsible.
Indeed, losing in gambling is commonplace. And don't gamble if you don't want to lose, because losses and losses in gambling are certain. But the victory is based on luck and your skills when playing gambling. but there are still people who act silly and continue playing after losing in a row and that only deepens the losses we experience. and this is what we must avoid.
and it is true that we must continue to strive to gamble responsibly. When we have made an effort there are two possibilities, namely; succeed and fail. Meanwhile, when you just stay silent without any effort, there is only one possibility that you will become a failure.

Knowing the risks doesn't exempt you from becoming an addict.
When a person already knows the risks he is experiencing or is facing. then a person will continue to look for solutions to deal with all of this or they will try to avoid these risks.
What else do we really need to know about gambling and it's risk involved than what is expected of us to be careful in betting, knowing that whenever we play, we have the chance to loose or win, they we should always gambling with the rate of amount we could afford to loose, if we want to play less of risk while gambling, then we shouldn't force ourselves gambling when we think we are not financially capacitated and we should not borrow money to gamble as well, because when gambling, it's either we loose or win and there's more likely possibilities for loosing than winning.
What you said about people who force themselves to gamble so they borrow money is not from the true principles of gambling, because basically people who gamble are those who want pleasure, and of course they have to have money first before gambling, if they insist on borrowing money. In my opinion, that is beyond the limit, like how can he be responsible in gambling, just making a deposit using other people's money.
Good or bad, losing or winning, it's definitely not a chance that you mean, but people who have good responsibility in gambling, don't care if they win or lose, because in the beginning they want pleasure, not winning, winning is a bonus, and definitely using money they were prepared to lose.

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September 05, 2023, 01:09:25 PM
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Yes, marketing now is a business that anyone can do, and they don't have to work very hard, the streamers who are now doing things, live broadcasts and everything we can imagine, but those who are dedicated to making live broadcasts with a specific casino they can have the opportunity from that casino to get paid for good advertising, and it is not bad, because a casino can always pay very well and those who get into the marketing business, if they do it well They earn a lot of money and that, based on what they can do with a casino, is double what they can achieve, so it is a profitable business.
Many streamers are not even gamblers, they just promote what they don't do for money. Especially the celebrities, who are seeing by the society as being influential or successful, the gullible public will think that the gambling is the source of their wealth and not knowing that it is even the advertisement that is giving them the money.
It is high time we learnt how not to follow the lifestyle of others and focus on our own pattern of life that will favour us.

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September 05, 2023, 01:34:46 PM
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What else do we really need to know about gambling and it's risk involved than what is expected of us to be careful in betting, knowing that whenever we play, we have the chance to loose or win, they we should always gambling with the rate of amount we could afford to loose, if we want to play less of risk while gambling, then we shouldn't force ourselves gambling when we think we are not financially capacitated and we should not borrow money to gamble as well, because when gambling, it's either we loose or win and there's more likely possibilities for loosing than winning.
What you said about people who force themselves to gamble so they borrow money is not from the true principles of gambling, because basically people who gamble are those who want pleasure, and of course they have to have money first before gambling, if they insist on borrowing money. In my opinion, that is beyond the limit, like how can he be responsible in gambling, just making a deposit using other people's money.
Good or bad, losing or winning, it's definitely not a chance that you mean, but people who have good responsibility in gambling, don't care if they win or lose, because in the beginning they want pleasure, not winning, winning is a bonus, and definitely using money they were prepared to lose.

Yes, that's right, it's not included in the principle of gambling at all, it's just the actions of someone who is too imposing his desires based on high self-confidence. I think the principle of gambling is nothing more than luck and fun, if you follow the advice then you will get fun from a few rounds there and fun is not entirely about winning. If you are lucky then you will win and vice versa. Well it is true that if they are gambling with borrowed money then it can be said that they are irresponsible gamblers, they cannot afford to deposit with their own money so they look for other ways such as borrowing.

Yes and it seems right to say that people who have responsibility in gambling are those who are ready for all the risks involved in it, especially defeat, but they will not force something just to gamble because they have previously understood how the risk is if they are too forceful something that only depends on luck. The point is that people who have responsibility in gambling are those who already understand everything that is there, as you say fun is the main thing for them, if they get a win then obviously they will be happier and if they lose they look normal. Jari let's think healthier when we want to gamble.

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September 05, 2023, 02:37:22 PM
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Many streamers are not even gamblers, they just promote what they don't do for money. Especially the celebrities, who are seeing by the society as being influential or successful, the gullible public will think that the gambling is the source of their wealth and not knowing that it is even the advertisement that is giving them the money.
It is high time we learnt how not to follow the lifestyle of others and focus on our own pattern of life that will favour us.
It is common for us to see that even all the streamer's wins have been arranged by the casinos that cooperate for it, moreover the streamer is already an artist and has many followers, that will obviously benefit the streamer to get the advantage of being an affiliate and also profitable for the casino itself which pays the streamer for promote their casino indirectly to all their followers.

For me, gamblers, maybe I understand this and it's normal, but for beginners, of course, they will think that it's a genuine win without engineering, so they become easily attracted and think that they have the same luck as the streamer, but in fact, they lost a lot of money and didn't it would be possible to blame the streamer because it was one's own fault for following someone else's lifestyle.  Cheesy

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Yes, it is very true, whenever one tries to think that a person with a lot of money has the freedom to play more, it can be true depending on their bets, if it is a person or player who makes bets with large sums of money, that for me is an irresponsible way of playing since it is not the most convenient, nor is it the most appropriate, currently it can be said that a person who has enough ability to play has to be much more careful than a person who does not have much money, because between more money, more opportunities to play and to play with large bets, but as you can play and win a lot, you can also lose a lot, and that is what a player often does not see, and that is called having a very irresponsible degree. big, because you can't be playing as if money were an unlimited option and play just to play, from time to time you have to insert logic into it and you have to be doing things very consciously, there are players who have very big losses and sometimes for recovering from that is very difficult, and even more so you have to be very careful not to lose capital, because spending money on bets is easy, but even for a millionaire it is hard to make money, because it is known that he has have to have and do a lot of work, so that's one way.

Addiction is the end of what I consider to be the most irresponsible, because when we still enter the casino it is not supposed to be a place that only admits adults, and not minors who act according to their immature impulses, it is not for us to a person loses control of what they do and begins to invest in a crazy way, leaving everything to chance, because things don't work that way either, so what should be done is first to be in control and not think that the more money If more money is spent, you must win or the casino has the commitment to pay it back due to what you can win, you should always do a control because it does not make sense for a person to fall into addiction just like that.
People who have a lot of money can bet big money and win big too, compared to people who only use small money bets because there is a real difference between them. And people who bet will also choose the size of the bet that they think is the most comfortable and that's why we often find differences in placing bets. But whatever bet we place, we must remain responsible with the money because it is our money that we might be able to spend just for gambling. After all, we have already budgeted it for gambling. But we also don't need to spend it in one day, especially if we don't have much money to gamble and try to have enough budget for gambling. And if we already know that our budget is only enough to play enough gambling, we must be careful in placing bets so that it doesn't exceed the money we have and if we lose, we only lose that amount of money and nothing more.

Addiction is something that we must avoid at all costs because it is a serious problem that will be faced by gamblers who lose their self-control and responsibility while gambling. And when we enter the casino, we have started to be responsible for our money and ourselves so we have to be careful in using the money to gamble. Those who gamble should have everything needed before they enter the casino to play comfortably and not try to chase wins, which is still mostly done by other gamblers. By holding ourselves well, we will not experience any problems while gambling and we can even enjoy it as entertainment and we can also be responsible gamblers.
Undoubtedly things are like that, addiction is a problem that has to be avoided, first because of the number of things to do because of it, it can also be avoided at all costs because a blow like addiction is something that should not be in anyone However, for those who suffer from it, well, in the hands of whoever it is, they must give total support, sometimes people who have this problem do not face it as it is, but rather act as if it does not affect them, but everything is very visible, their way of being, the stress he suffers is strong and well, some things are beginning to be lacking, if he is the head of the family, perhaps the family will begin to see the ravages of that person, perhaps he does not bring food, the bills are every higher and higher, they are things that are very evident, and that is when the problems begin, because once they occur it is difficult to get out of that problem, it affects some a lot, and in reality it is not worth it for the person affected with The addiction, then, do not lose more than money, because you are already absatnte with the money that is lost.

In each game session it is necessary to highlight that people as players have to be very careful, because one of the things of responsibility is that, not allowing all the money to be spent for the commitments that cannot be missed, then it is Of course there is a great irresponsibility there, because everything that entails with the mandatory expenses is what we must comply with in the first instance, these are things that we as people, and then as players must comply with, first and only first, that is what What do I consider, let's remember that the game is first a means of entertainment under which you cannot be putting yourself as the first option, less first than a family, or someone who depends on the player, that is what should be taken into consideration, The rest, well, if you are a single person, and who can support yourself well, you can spend everything, clear is my point of view.

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September 05, 2023, 03:35:35 PM
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What else do we really need to know about gambling and it's risk involved than what is expected of us to be careful in betting, knowing that whenever we play, we have the chance to loose or win, they we should always gambling with the rate of amount we could afford to loose, if we want to play less of risk while gambling, then we shouldn't force ourselves gambling when we think we are not financially capacitated and we should not borrow money to gamble as well, because when gambling, it's either we loose or win and there's more likely possibilities for loosing than winning.
What you said about people who force themselves to gamble so they borrow money is not from the true principles of gambling, because basically people who gamble are those who want pleasure, and of course they have to have money first before gambling, if they insist on borrowing money. In my opinion, that is beyond the limit, like how can he be responsible in gambling, just making a deposit using other people's money.
Good or bad, losing or winning, it's definitely not a chance that you mean, but people who have good responsibility in gambling, don't care if they win or lose, because in the beginning they want pleasure, not winning, winning is a bonus, and definitely using money they were prepared to lose.

Yes, that's right, it's not included in the principle of gambling at all, it's just the actions of someone who is too imposing his desires based on high self-confidence. I think the principle of gambling is nothing more than luck and fun, if you follow the advice then you will get fun from a few rounds there and fun is not entirely about winning. If you are lucky then you will win and vice versa. Well it is true that if they are gambling with borrowed money then it can be said that they are irresponsible gamblers, they cannot afford to deposit with their own money so they look for other ways such as borrowing.

Yes and it seems right to say that people who have responsibility in gambling are those who are ready for all the risks involved in it, especially defeat, but they will not force something just to gamble because they have previously understood how the risk is if they are too forceful something that only depends on luck. The point is that people who have responsibility in gambling are those who already understand everything that is there, as you say fun is the main thing for them, if they get a win then obviously they will be happier and if they lose they look normal. Jari let's think healthier when we want to gamble.
You've encapsulated the essence of responsible gambling - its not purely about luck but a mixture of understanding, risk management, and emotional stability. True gamblers walk the fine line between rationality and impulse. They master the mechanics, delve into probabilities, yet they also understand the fickle nature of luck. Your point about borrowed money is spot on; the bedrock of gambling, online or otherwise, is financial stability.

However, its equally important to point out the danger of "fun" as a smokescreen for addiction. While fun is indeed an essential element, it can easily mask unhealthy behavior; because its "fun," the risks somehow seem mitigated. So yes, one must embrace the fun but always within a framework of calculated risks and boundaries. Fun in gambling is like sugar in coffee; it enhances but should not dominate the experience.

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September 05, 2023, 04:11:42 PM
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Many streamers are not even gamblers, they just promote what they don't do for money. Especially the celebrities, who are seeing by the society as being influential or successful, the gullible public will think that the gambling is the source of their wealth and not knowing that it is even the advertisement that is giving them the money.
It is high time we learnt how not to follow the lifestyle of others and focus on our own pattern of life that will favour us.
It is common for us to see that even all the streamer's wins have been arranged by the casinos that cooperate for it, moreover the streamer is already an artist and has many followers, that will obviously benefit the streamer to get the advantage of being an affiliate and also profitable for the casino itself which pays the streamer for promote their casino indirectly to all their followers.

For me, gamblers, maybe I understand this and it's normal, but for beginners, of course, they will think that it's a genuine win without engineering, so they become easily attracted and think that they have the same luck as the streamer, but in fact, they lost a lot of money and didn't it would be possible to blame the streamer because it was one's own fault for following someone else's lifestyle.  Cheesy
Exactly, many of them don't even know how to place bet but that is not their business their business is to advertise the company and get paid. They are there working for the money and not to gamble. Why gambling Companies use those streamers because since they created popularity around them it is easy for them to influence fans to use the service or the casino site because most of the fans would believe that since their model is the one advertising the project they would like to try. And most of them would try it because they want to be like the streamer.

Frankly speaking, fashion has reshaping the world system to a new dimension and everyone want to belong to the new fashion world. So modeling streamers, artistes, and other celebrities is the trending things in the world. As for me I like to be myself and not to imitate others. And Instead let others imitate me. I can only learn things from a teacher and possible take him to be my mentor form the educational perspective and not his social lifestyle. Some of those people who are imitating those streamers at home they have nothing to eat and wear but shouting at the streamer.
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September 05, 2023, 04:13:25 PM
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Lol marketing is a part of business activity and it isn't just happened right now, it was done centuries ago even before our ancestor was born.
Lahhh...Indeed, who wants to try to separate these two things. And everyone realizes that the progress of a business cannot be separated from promotion. However, if a promotion is carried out in excess (over), this can also be fatal to the business you are running and the promotion you are doing. And all this must be in good control.

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About streamers, it is indeed a profitable venture if the streamer happen to get sponsored by a casino.  Since these streamers can have an income on views generated by the platform and at the same time get paid by the casino.  I like streamers that always remind their viewers to gamble responsibly and that any amazing result on the stream has nothing to do with the viewers gambling experience since the result of gambling is always random.
And speaking of gambling streamers, I rarely come across streamers who behave the way you say. I respect them as streamers because after all they are workers who struggle to make a living. However, they also must not only side with the sponsoring sites, but must also look at the people who spend large sums of money on gambling because of being consumed by steamer talk. but I also hope that in the future every streamer can convey the message "gambling responsibly"

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September 05, 2023, 04:35:33 PM
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People should unbderstand that losing without hard feelings is also a skill. Those poor souls that were taught in their childhood "Don't accept failures" and stuff like that, they are living in hell when they are adults because of that upbringing.
I was taught to not accept failures and I'm not a poor soul. Actually, you shouldn't accept failures but you should know which failures to ignore. Should you accept failures in gambling? Definitely, it's your luck, you can do nothing about it, casino has an advantage also in numbers, so, there is absolutely nothing you can do long-term.

Well, I'm glad for you. Looks like it's working out for you pretty well. The thing is some people don't distinguish gambling from real life, and that's a big problem for them. They think if they lost in gambling they shouldn't accept it too. I'm really glad that you can see the difference. But lots of things in real life depend on luck too. And if you fail there you should just move on and don't try again to succeed. But knowing that you should definitely never chase your losses in gambling is a big step forward already. Cheers.

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September 05, 2023, 07:45:41 PM
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Gambling streamers really influence gamblers and even people who have never gambled before. There are still some gamblers who are still influenced by gambling streamers, which makes them increase their bets like crazy.
With many gambling streamers doing live streaming videos via social media, this can influence someone who has never even gambled to become a gambler. And in my opinion, live streaming videos on social media need to be limited because this is very dangerous and even someone who is not old enough and has the ability to control emotions well can join in gambling. Because remembering that it's not just adults who are members of social media, but many children who are not yet old enough are also members of social media.


The marketing strategy of the gambling site will be very spicy and it attract the gamblers of other sites.It also attract the people who never gamble before,the people will try for one using the bonus from the gambling site.If thy loss some money,then some of them stop the game.Other will start to gamble for the longer period.The live streaming of video in social media should be banned,because it made many people into the gambling addiction.The social media should take responsibility on this steaming to avoid of many gambling addict and many crime in future.
Banning gambling streams is like infringing on human rights, gambling streams is not the reason why people get addicted to gambling, people get addicted to gambling because they lack self control, so even if online gambling streams were to be banned, gamblers who lack self control will still get addicted to gambling, I have a friend who does not even own a smart phone or computer, he has no access to the internet, but yet, he is addicted to gambling..

If some things must be banned to reduce or stop crime in our societies, then let the government first succeed in banning the production of Alcohols, hard drugs, cigarettes and weeds etc. All this things cause more crimes to be committed in our societies than gambling addiction.

I understand your own view, because people under the influence of Alcohol or drugs can comit a crime because at that time he is being controled by the drugs and can be very dangerous but in another perspective in times of stopping crime I don't think banning Alcohol, Hard drugs, Cigarette and weed can help to stop crime in a society because with or without drugs crime will always be there because there are people that comit crimes without the influence of Alcohol or any drugs, and also I was made to believe that most countries with high cold weather uses alcohol or cigarettes to keep themselves warm so in every angle we view it, is good and bad.

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September 05, 2023, 09:11:00 PM
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What you said about people who force themselves to gamble so they borrow money is not from the true principles of gambling, because basically people who gamble are those who want pleasure, and of course they have to have money first before gambling, if they insist on borrowing money. In my opinion, that is beyond the limit, like how can he be responsible in gambling, just making a deposit using other people's money.

It might not be the true principle of gambling, and you don't also expect every gambler to follow all the principles of gambling. There are some gamblers whose purpose for gambling is only to make money and not to satisfy any pleasure, as you called it. Some people think that since gambling is just something that they can luckily get money from, they would always try their luck, and the way some people act, they can risk any money that is not their own just to make a sure bet which is not usually sure.

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Good or bad, losing or winning, it's definitely not a chance that you mean, but people who have good responsibility in gambling, don't care if they win or lose, because in the beginning they want pleasure, not winning, winning is a bonus, and definitely using money they were prepared to lose.

Yes, I really agree with you on this. Some people don't care if they win or lose in gambling because, from the start, they did not only conceive of winning money as the only aim for gambling.

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September 05, 2023, 10:29:18 PM
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About streamers, it is indeed a profitable venture if the streamer happen to get sponsored by a casino.  Since these streamers can have an income on views generated by the platform and at the same time get paid by the casino.  I like streamers that always remind their viewers to gamble responsibly and that any amazing result on the stream has nothing to do with the viewers gambling experience since the result of gambling is always random.

Exactly, in terms of additional income streaming really paid well if you get sponsor and you have a huge network who followed you and watch your stream videos, plus the chance that you can also earn from referrals, though in the sense of streamers who will give that kind of advice or reminders it's always in the gamblers end playing responsibly and taking care of their finances.

It's your money to take care and even there's some advice like that. If the person/gambler doesn't have that kind of responsible mindset, he will still go to suffer.

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September 06, 2023, 07:34:19 AM
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What you said about people who force themselves to gamble so they borrow money is not from the true principles of gambling, because basically people who gamble are those who want pleasure, and of course they have to have money first before gambling, if they insist on borrowing money. In my opinion, that is beyond the limit, like how can he be responsible in gambling, just making a deposit using other people's money.

It might not be the true principle of gambling, and you don't also expect every gambler to follow all the principles of gambling. There are some gamblers whose purpose for gambling is only to make money and not to satisfy any pleasure, as you called it. Some people think that since gambling is just something that they can luckily get money from, they would always try their luck, and the way some people act, they can risk any money that is not their own just to make a sure bet which is not usually sure.
If you lead to this side, gambling with the interpretation that you provide will refract wrong and correctly in gambling, because the proportion is like you fishing in a river that you yourself never put the seeds into the river.
We know that the opportunity for the affairs will definitely be in every gambling, but is it worth risking that you use other people's money to try your luck, then where is "gambling responsibly", so I think this is not a good thing For finance, what is afraid is that there will be a worse habit than betting using loan money, at least using personal money is much better especially the results of good financial calculations and you spend money to gamble from the amount you can eliminate.

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September 06, 2023, 08:03:00 AM
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What you said about people who force themselves to gamble so they borrow money is not from the true principles of gambling, because basically people who gamble are those who want pleasure, and of course they have to have money first before gambling, if they insist on borrowing money. In my opinion, that is beyond the limit, like how can he be responsible in gambling, just making a deposit using other people's money.

It might not be the true principle of gambling, and you don't also expect every gambler to follow all the principles of gambling. There are some gamblers whose purpose for gambling is only to make money and not to satisfy any pleasure, as you called it. Some people think that since gambling is just something that they can luckily get money from, they would always try their luck, and the way some people act, they can risk any money that is not their own just to make a sure bet which is not usually sure.
If you lead to this side, gambling with the interpretation that you provide will refract wrong and correctly in gambling, because the proportion is like you fishing in a river that you yourself never put the seeds into the river.
We know that the opportunity for the affairs will definitely be in every gambling, but is it worth risking that you use other people's money to try your luck, then where is "gambling responsibly", so I think this is not a good thing For finance, what is afraid is that there will be a worse habit than betting using loan money, at least using personal money is much better especially the results of good financial calculations and you spend money to gamble from the amount you can eliminate.
It is my understanding that the use of credit money, or money that the player cannot afford to spend, cannot be called "responsible gambling". 
This is just already completely and irrevocably "an irresponsible game." 
Here the question is what kind of person, what kind of player began to play for money that is not his own money?  And here I come to the conclusion that such a player is at least already at the stage of the beginning of gambling addiction.  This is at least.  Maybe he has already completely turned into a gambler with an addiction that needs to be treated forcibly or by other psychological methods.  Just the stage when a player begins to use other people's money is a clear and well-understood signal for his close people, family members or friends that some action must be taken to make him stop playing like that.  And it’s better to force such a player to stop playing for some fairly long period of time.  It is clear that it is quite difficult to force it, but in principle it is most likely possible by different methods.

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September 06, 2023, 04:48:21 PM
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I understand your own view, because people under the influence of Alcohol or drugs can comit a crime because at that time he is being controled by the drugs and can be very dangerous but in another perspective in times of stopping crime I don't think banning Alcohol, Hard drugs, Cigarette and weed can help to stop crime in a society because with or without drugs crime will always be there because there are people that comit crimes without the influence of Alcohol or any drugs, and also I was made to believe that most countries with high cold weather uses alcohol or cigarettes to keep themselves warm so in every angle we view it, is good and bad.
Yes... I also really agree with that. There are many reasons why someone can commit a crime. And alcohol and drugs are one of the triggers for a person to commit crimes, where if consumed not according to the rules can cause a person to lose control or become addicted to alcohol and drugs and this is a very dangerous thing, because apart from being able to harm oneself, it is this could be detrimental to other people. And besides that, alcohol and drugs can provide other benefits, especially in the pharmaceutical sector.
So it is necessary to pay attention to the rules for its use and distribution, because there are still many who abuse it.

And so it is with someone who is addicted to gambling. It is not ruled out that when a person is seriously addicted to gambling and what happens is he runs out of capital, it is possible that that person will do reckless things (crimes) to get money to return to the gambling table. Which is where it is very dangerous and this is where it is necessary to gamble responsibly

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