It's NOT a good time to invest in BTC.

[crypticj]

Hello bros, just want to make a new update on the bitcoin.
I started to see people asking if it was a good time to buy Bitcoin or not. I think it's a pretty lazy question cos everyone should do their own research, but if there people are truly wondering about it, I will try to give a short answer to it.

There were a couple of weeks after my last post about the best time to buy Bitcoin and my opinion STILL didn't change.
Yes, we can see that bitcoin is going up, we see that inflation is going down little by little and other signals. But I will keep advocating that we still didn't get rid of the MAIN reason economy is suffering and Bitcoin is not 60k.

Interest rates are still high and FED just keeps rising it. And that's where the real problem is. You should understand that some signals might be good and show that economy is recovering, but while inflation is still higher than needed, FED will keep rising or then holding interest rates. It means that it's NOT over and we might see another huge Bitcoin dump in a near future. It's obvious that some sectors of the economy showing some good results but only because of the LAG EFFECT of the interest rates.

I still think that we won't see real gains until inflation will go down enough and fed will start cutting interest rates. I said it before and I will say it again: I think the best time to buy bitcoin will be after interest rates will go down. It's easily the best signal to buy for me. And it's also the least risky one.

So be careful. If you truly don't know if you should buy or not, do some research and always look at the bigger picture and not some small local signals.

[_act_]

Do you have to wait for anything before you should start to DCA. For people that do not know much about signals, reading charts and knowing fundamental analysis, they can start to DCA and continue to DCA. I have been thinking that bitcoin will get to all-time-high that would be over $100000 next, that means that starting to accumulate at $30000 is not too late.

This is not trading, holders do not have much business with fundamental trading just as it is explained in the OP, holders should focus on the fact that the price of bitcoin is not yet still too high and buying weekly or daily with certain little amount of money is better than to miss the next bull run.

[Plaguedeath]

I think the best time to buy bitcoin will be after interest rates will go down.

Let's we look into the FED interest rate and Bitcoin price graph, do the low interest rate will affect Bitcoin price? nope, it's only happen on 2021. When Bitcoin price increase on 2017, the interest rate keep increasing and this year the high of interest rate will not make Bitcoin price drop.

I still believe Bitcoin price will make new ATH after halving rather than make a correlation between interest rate and Bitcoin price

FED interest rate since 2011.


Bitcoin price since 2011.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Interest rates are still high and FED just keeps rising it. And that's where the real problem is. You should understand that some signals might be good and show that economy is recovering, but while inflation is still higher than needed, FED will keep rising or then holding interest rates. It means that it's NOT over and we might see another huge Bitcoin dump in a near future. It's obvious that some sectors of the economy showing some good results but only because of the LAG EFFECT of the interest rates.

I still think that we won't see real gains until inflation will go down enough and fed will start cutting interest rates. I said it before and I will say it again: I think the best time to buy bitcoin will be after interest rates will go down. It's easily the best signal to buy for me. And it's also the least risky one.

Okay, so what qualifies you to lecture us on the subject?

The best time to buy bitcoin is now and always has been, as long as you have a long term view and are not thinking if it is going to go up or down because of the FED or whatever. So not thinking of selling or buying in the short term but thinking that it is decentralised, the only commodity that does not increase its supply when the price goes up and things like that.

[LogitechMouse]

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Interest rates are still high and FED just keeps rising it. And that's where the real problem is. You should understand that some signals might be good and show that economy is recovering, but while inflation is still higher than needed, FED will keep rising or then holding interest rates. It means that it's NOT over and we might see another huge Bitcoin dump in a near future. It's obvious that some sectors of the economy showing some good results but only because of the LAG EFFECT of the interest rates.

I still think that we won't see real gains until inflation will go down enough and fed will start cutting interest rates. I said it before and I will say it again: I think the best time to buy bitcoin will be after interest rates will go down. It's easily the best signal to buy for me. And it's also the least risky one.

So be careful. If you truly don't know if you should buy or not, do some research and always look at the bigger picture and not some small local signals.

Well, what can I say. Thanks for reminding us I guess.
When Bitcoin's below $20,000, interest rates at that time is at it's peak. Fortunately, I bought a small amount at that time, and didn't do and what you are saying. Now interest rates are still high, Bitcoin's price is still low (for me), why not take the opportunity to buy now, and wait for the Fed to cut interest rates?

I mean sooner or later, Fed will still cut interest rates, so why not make one step ahead of it? You used the word "think" meaning you're not sure as well on what you're saying. Well, I'm 100% sure if I say that it's still a good time to invest into Bitcoin right now. Just buy. Do Dollar-Cost Average, and don't wait for Fed to cut interest rates.

Now with to your opinion, I guess I will not follow what you said. Respect to you still for sharing your opinion, but I will not follow that one. I still believe in Dollar-Cost Averaging. F*ck the interest rates, but I will still continue to buy, and buy, and buy.

[Blurr007]

Everyone to his/her opinion.

But why should someone wait for interest rate to go down before buying bitcoin ?
even if you are going to benefit by buying bitcoin for low interest rate.
My question is -
is the time worth waisting ?
will the interest rate fall to the perfect rate that suits you ?

Let's not be ignorant, and capitalize on every given opportunity. Buying bitcoin anytime makes more sense.

[Mauser]

I still think that we won't see real gains until inflation will go down enough and fed will start cutting interest rates. I said it before and I will say it again: I think the best time to buy bitcoin will be after interest rates will go down. It's easily the best signal to buy for me. And it's also the least risky one.

So be careful. If you truly don't know if you should buy or not, do some research and always look at the bigger picture and not some small local signals.

That's an interesting take on the current situation and what to expect in near future of the bitcoin market. In some parts I agree with you and in others I am more optimistic than you. In general I would also say that it's not the best time to buy large quantities of Bitcoins, but we also need to look alternatives. In case we have large sums of fiat cash laying around then we need to do something with it. In my country the interest rates on savings are around 1% while the inflation rate is 8-10%. It just doesn't make any sense to not invest and at least try to keep the value of our money constant. I would still recommend to invest at least partially our money in bitcoins. Just because bitcoins aren't cheap anymore doesn't mean there isn't a lot of upside potential legt. We are still far away from the ATH and the halving is going to come next year.

[NotATether]

Well, that's a good reasoning at all, but bulls will always buy BTC. 

[KiaKia]

Everyone to his/her opinion.

But why should someone wait for interest rate to go down before buying bitcoin ?
even if you are going to benefit by buying bitcoin for low interest rate.
My question is -
is the time worth waisting ?
will the interest rate fall to the perfect rate that suits you ?

Let's not be ignorant, and capitalize on every given opportunity. Buying Bitcoin anytime makes more sense.

That's the best they could think about, it's not their fault, they have failed to understand that when the world is in fear or panic, it's always a good time to make a decision, Waren Buffet's favorite quote says ' Be greedy when others are Fearful and Be Fearful when others are Greedy'.

Waiting for inflation to go down before you start buying Bitcoin means you will be buying at a high price because lower inflation is automatically bullish for the whole crypto space, this is one of the reasons why many people missed good buying opportunities.

They want good news to be around the corner before taking a step, not knowing that the perfect investment opportunities happen when the world is in chaos and panic.

[blckhawk]

I think that it's a bad time to buy bitcoin if you are planning to spend all of your money in it and then hodling until the prices surge, I disagree that it's not a good time because I believe that you can easily buy your goal amount piece by piece. I think this is a high time to accumulate your bitcoin hoard because the halving is getting ever near and we all know what happens to the market during and after halving.

[Lucius]

Don't listen to the OP, he's completely lost in his fantasy that the whole world revolves around the FED - not to mention that this is just another thread where he repeats his ideas over and over in the hope that he'll be right one day.

Just look at his post history -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=972626;sa=showPosts


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[blockman]

I honestly think that it's the opposite that the higher inflation will come out, the impact on it bitcoin's price is going to be more positive. But then, there are several factors that can affect Bitcoin's price and we all differ in opinion with regard to that. IMHO, whether fed rates are high or not, the most important thing to be considered by someone who wants to invest in bitcoin is his readiness and willingness to start buying.
This isn't for everybody that just wants quick gains although it's possible through other options like going into spot or margin trading if it's about being optimistic about bitcoin and its future then, you should buy when you're ready and have got clear plans to stay for longer period of time.
It's not just all about the fed interest rates or what not but you see that the moment you're looking at right now is still a good entry before it soars again.

[Hamza2424]

What a coincidence here, this day I am reading so many topics with similar kind of titles as Good time bad, Should or Should Not so many problems. So many Similar replies and so on buddies stop promoting such posts I think nobody who is posting such topics is inattentive of the DCA if he is then he should visit the trading section. Anyway ow many topics are going to be posted on the similar tittle and when its gonna end?

[Mr. Magkaisa]

   -   Well, as I can see now in the value of Bitcoin at binance it was around 29k$ almost and I think it will increase even more until 28k$ each and then it will kick again around 32k$ almost.

This is what I seem to have seen in bitcoin's price movement based on my analysis in accordance with my fundamental and technical analysis. And it seems that I also think that my thoughts are right.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

I don't know man but some members investigated your post history and found that you are obsessed with FED regulations a lot. That is not good because whatever FED does, bitcoin is here and its value will grow with time by its adoption growth. FED regulations only can create chaos in the USA. and global economy but it comes and goes.

Bitcoin has its halving cycle that will continue to appear no matter what FED will do in their regulations.

Is it a not-good-time to invest in BTC?

Really? What is better time to invest in BTC after its has been halved from 2021 all time high? A better time is months ago but I am really doubtful that we will see price under $20,000 again before 2024 halving.

[aoluain]

Do you have to wait for anything before you should start to DCA. For people that do not know much about signals, reading charts and knowing fundamental analysis, they can start to DCA and continue to DCA. I have been thinking that bitcoin will get to all-time-high that would be over $100000 next, that means that starting to accumulate at $30000 is not too late.

This is not trading, holders do not have much business with fundamental trading just as it is explained in the OP, holders should focus on the fact that the price of bitcoin is not yet still too high and buying weekly or daily with certain little amount of money is better than to miss the next bull run.

Thats it, if anyone has an outlook to the future as in long term and not get caught up
on 2023 or 2024 then buying Bitcoin can happen anytine.

Buy now, buy tomorrow and if the price drops - buy again, DCA is the way to go.

So long as central banks and the FED play around with devaluing FIAT and the interest
rates hopefully more people will realise Bitcoin cannot be messed with outside its trading value.

[pooya87]

High inflation has a positive effect on bitcoin price as it pushes people into investing their money and one of their investment targets is always bitcoin.
What affects bitcoin negatively is recession which is what pushes people into liquidating their assets so that they can "live"!

What we had over the past year (and still do) is a combination of inflation and recession which is what led to the initial crash. We still have high inflation and recession in a lot of the world including US, but what you are forgetting is that more increase in interest rates by the FED is not going to have any effects on reducing the inflation or causing any more recession than this.
In other words there is no reason to expect any kind of drop because of the ongoing recession in US specially since almost all of those who wanted to sell have already sold their bitcoins.

The only way we could see a big drop in bitcoin price is either a massive market manipulation or a massively negative and sudden economical event. Anything that is ongoing is not going to come at a shock and cause a drop like dollar value dumping, inflation remaining high, US banks shutting down, and so on.

[Lorence.xD]

Everyone to his/her opinion.

But why should someone wait for interest rate to go down before buying bitcoin ?
even if you are going to benefit by buying bitcoin for low interest rate.
My question is -
is the time worth waisting ?
will the interest rate fall to the perfect rate that suits you ?

Let's not be ignorant, and capitalize on every given opportunity. Buying bitcoin anytime makes more sense.

You already questioned OP's post which proofs that everyone has their own analysis on how could you enter the market in a good timing. If you do your own research and concluded the ideas of how will you manage yourself in the market, then for sure everyone would interpret the same information you've gather in different way. But for me, It's really depends on your call, you should not depend on others calls since its your money at stake. If you think it's worth the wait then wait, if you think its worth the buy then buy. There's no guarantee about Bitcoin with its volatile nature.

[BitcoinPanther]

I still think that we won't see real gains until inflation will go down enough and fed will start cutting interest rates. I said it before and I will say it again: I think the best time to buy bitcoin will be after interest rates will go down. It's easily the best signal to buy for me. And it's also the least risky one.

The best time to buy Bitcoin is during the Bitcoin bear market until the early Bitcoin price spike.  What if the timing of the interest rates going down is at the peak of Bitcoin price rally?  Would it be the best time to buy Bitcoin?  I think it isn't a good strategy to buy Bitcoin at its peak.

I think the best time to buy bitcoin will be after interest rates will go down.

Let's we look into the FED interest rate and Bitcoin price graph, do the low interest rate will affect Bitcoin price? nope, it's only happen on 2021. When Bitcoin price increase on 2017, the interest rate keep increasing and this year the high of interest rate will not make Bitcoin price drop.

I also think that Bitcoin market rally does not depend on FED's interest rate decision.  Why do we need to look at other chart when we can look at Bitcoin price chart directly and can have a better view of the Bitcoin price trend minimizing decision error.

[franky1]

if you do the math of world costs to acquire bitcoin via most means
the range is $18k-$118k

obviously no one wants to mine in hawaii/japan from home (highest number of over $110k)
obviously no one can mine anywhere on planet efficiently (lowest number of under $18k)

but thats the window range

so here is a simple visual

$110k-$120k avoidable
$100k-$110k unacceptable
$090k-$100k unpleasant
$080k-$090k unsatisfactory
$070k-$080k average
$060k-$070k acceptable
$050k-$060k good
$040k-$050k great
$030k-$040k exquisite
$020k-$030k excellent
$010k-$020k improbable
$000k-$010k impossible

the best way to think of it is how much would you invest of your wealth from 100%-0% makes it more obvious to put less in the higher it goes and more in the lower it goes