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April 17, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.


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April 17, 2023, 04:09:17 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.



This sounds pretty weird because if players can upgrade their horses, it's closer to car racing than horse racing.
It is true that at the moment there are a lot of games to bet on, but every sport is very random, so I believe that artificial intelligence will never be able to pass this barrier.
It's possible he'll be able to get close to it with quantum computers, but we still don't know that yet.

As for the metaverse, there will definitely be casinos, but I'm not sure if it will be much different from the current "live casinos".
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April 17, 2023, 04:12:40 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.


Is there a point when "fine'tuning" or upgrading stops before betting commences? As long as they cannot make adjustments 2 seconds before the race begins, it sounds like it would be fair across the board. Last second adjustments would seem shady IMO.

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April 17, 2023, 04:14:31 PM
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It has a two dimensional effect to gamblers, some think about AI as a smart way to win against the house when gambling because they presumed it offers them a unique opportunity lime the bots could offer in making them have a better experience in gambling since everything works being automated, the second aspect is the approach the casino operators give to it as a means to cheat on their system, they think it will work less beneficial for them than how it will pay them.

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April 17, 2023, 04:20:07 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.



I am not sure if I am getting it right but are you talking about betting on AI horses in the metaverse ?
If yes then I don't think it would be fair if people are able to tune/upgrade their horses because that would given them an unfair advantage.
There should be some kind of lock-in before the race where no changes can be done and the upgrades should be public.
So that others are able to see what upgrades others have done so that they can do it too and keep the race fair.
Still not sure on what basis the horses will win though.

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April 17, 2023, 04:31:51 PM
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I can't see how you can decide which horse to bet on. Are you able to see the features of these competing AI horses?
It could be rigged all the time much like the phony race of Yobit. You can't complain about what is unfair to this kind of game. That's how it sounds and the house typically could just program which will win, all you can do is wait for the pattern and when it is your turn to win.

It's in meta though so are we the ones riding as the jockey?

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April 17, 2023, 04:42:19 PM
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I knew a game like this on Ethereum. It's called Zed.run which let you breed your horse and join tournament with a real money entry to win the tournament prize. This kind of horse racing is indeed more fun than betting on real horse that you didn't train or breed yourself.

I’m nt updated anymore on the project because this game become pricey if you want to breed the best horse to win tournaments. Surely this type horse racing is more attractive and easy to get hook.


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April 17, 2023, 04:57:05 PM
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Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future?
Have you ever read and seen about this: The Game of Silks, taking thoroughbred horse racing into the metaverse, Looks like your dream will come true in the future.

We know there are many games today that we see such as: blackjack, poker, roulette, slots and including sports betting provided by the metaverse casino industry, which we often see and know virtual gambling, by using the payment method with crypto as a whole, it is possible for horse racing bets to be made into metaverse bets in the future, maybe some online casinos have implemented it.

Sure, if this type of horse racing is in great demand and played by gamblers, it is possible and most likely this type of horse racing game will become one of the biggest and most successful metaverse games in the future, note: horse racing games are more fun than other sports betting in the metaverse method.

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April 17, 2023, 05:12:12 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.
That does sound like a simulated game and the population who bet on horse races would never accept it as an alternative to physical horse racing. To them the event and its crowd with the excitement is what that matters along with the money invested in. Maybe it will find a niche among the people who started their gambling exposure with online betting not the ones before that.

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Definitely is possible if the company knows what it is doing.

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Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future?

If Metaverse becomes successful, I believe gambling will be one of the first applications that will be integrated into the Metaverse.  So yeah, I think gambling has a place with the metaverse in the future.  Gambling is one of the best options to attract users.  We have seen how huge the gambling industry is, so it is a no-brainer that gambling will be integrated into the Metaverse.

Simulation is one of the popular genres in the gaming industry so I think horse training simulation plus horserace betting will attract lots of players and have them invest money into that project.  The only downside is that those who have deep pockets will definitely monopolize the game.

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It has a two dimensional effect on gamblers, some think about AI as a smart way to win against the house when gambling because they presumed it offers them a unique opportunity lime the bots could offer in making them have a better experience in gambling since everything works being automated, the second aspect is the approach the casino operators give to it as a means to cheat on their system, they think it will work less beneficial for them than how it will pay them.
Yeah the automated play out of things with AI is what makes many think AI is the right tool to use in gambling but even with all the positive results recorded by AI development and usage in games it still does not appeal to me that much knowing fully well the limitation of thos bots and the failure to make changes in second to start of the game or during games section. And I am also sure gambling sites already are aware of this new development and there will do everything possible to keep all parties fair and game outcomes uninfluenced.

AI is drawn at by many since it's void of human efforts, so too. make good use of this development there is a need for human involvement the highest that I can use AI is to analyze games and then after using it to make my own decisions during the games, so at that I could make the right adjustment and increase or adjust my game sections.
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I can't see how you can decide which horse to bet on. Are you able to see the features of these competing AI horses?
It could be rigged all the time much like the phony race of Yobit. You can't complain about what is unfair to this kind of game. That's how it sounds and the house typically could just program which will win, all you can do is wait for the pattern and when it is your turn to win.

It's in meta though so are we the ones riding as the jockey?
Well, most likely that the game will be rigged since everything is controlled before the race has started. And even if you see that particular horse has a lot of potentials to win, you can never guarantee that it will be declare as the winner. Probably the outcome of the game has already been set, regardless of how those horses perform at the middle of the race. That’s why AI gambling seems not valid and not worth my bet.

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would you mind sharing a link to the project? I am curious about the process of "fine-tuning" their horses, I mean do they only need to buy items to upgrade their horses or do they need to do something else in order to upgrade their horses?

I knew a game like this on Ethereum. It's called Zed.run which let you breed your horse and join tournament with a real money entry to win the tournament prize. This kind of horse racing is indeed more fun than betting on real horse that you didn't train or breed yourself.
are they able to turn the horses into NFT? because this sounds like would be a great way to turn it into NFT's. it reminds me of an MMORPG game I currently play where you can seal your own character into NFT and sell it, and once you sold it, the one who bought it can unseal the character and use it inside the game.

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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.



That is great as a dream but I would not love to be gambling against unreal imaginary people,for this we have already the slot machines in which we are gambling at different themes as early as ancient Egypt up to modern times.With AI then it would be even more complicated as we need time for AI to be fine tuned to that level.I asked Nova-the ChatGPT android AI app what will be the result of x game and they gave me an evasive answer that I cannot predict the future which is true otherwise we would all be millionaires and the casinos instead of opening up at the rhythm they do,they would be closing up with such rhythm.

Betting against other players we already have Texas Holdem and I think it would be great if AI was implemented here only to look at other player behaviors,I think this would be nice,and I would love this also in the metaverse.

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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.
Why would those horses need to be AI? Who would benefit from that? If the winning order of those computer made "horses" is going to be unpredictable anyway. Why not use random number generator instead?

I would definitely bet on real horses though as i could research everything about them before betting. That would give me way better edge. You can't really research computer program horses, or if you could crack that, the code would be really bad.

Technically you can call the online betting "metaverse betting" already. That's just a buzzword.

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April 17, 2023, 07:33:52 PM
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I knew a game like this on Ethereum. It's called Zed.run which let you breed your horse and join tournament with a real money entry to win the tournament prize. This kind of horse racing is indeed more fun than betting on real horse that you didn't train or breed yourself.

I’m nt updated anymore on the project because this game become pricey if you want to breed the best horse to win tournaments. Surely this type horse racing is more attractive and easy to get hook.
That will really be a great experience to see how my breed horses perform against others, but then again I think breeding your horses organically is more preferably compared to an AI bot or am I not getting the concepts right?

AI development may be drawn at by many platforms because of the tendency to rig the games by bots which can lead to the casino seizing your account for grieving abuse of their system.
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I knew a game like this on Ethereum. It's called Zed.run which let you breed your horse and join tournament with a real money entry to win the tournament prize. This kind of horse racing is indeed more fun than betting on real horse that you didn't train or breed yourself.

I’m nt updated anymore on the project because this game become pricey if you want to breed the best horse to win tournaments. Surely this type horse racing is more attractive and easy to get hook.
That will really be a great experience to see how my breed horses perform against others, but then again I think breeding your horses organically is more preferably compared to an AI bot or am I not getting the concepts right?

AI development may be drawn at by many platforms because of the tendency to rig the games by bots which can lead to the casino seizing your account for grieving abuse of their system.

Cool, I didn't check that ZED.run yet but by the sound of it, it seems like we become an online rancher. Or like the kind of small robots we use to play called Tamagotchi only this time we breed an online horse.

I'm guessing you can feed the horse and let it drink a particular made-up vitamin for it to run faster and all. In short, you can modify its behavior to win a race. Seem easy to figure out a trick to win.

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Cool, I didn't check that ZED.run yet but by the sound of it, it seems like we become an online rancher. Or like the kind of small robots we use to play called Tamagotchi only this time we breed an online horse.

I'm guessing you can feed the horse and let it drink a particular made-up vitamin for it to run faster and all. In short, you can modify its behaviour to win a race. Seem easy to figure out a trick to win.

Yeah, the ability to modify the behaviour of the horse is what makes breeding a horse better than using a bot AI since AI behaviour can not be modified when it has already been configured to act in a particular manner.  This development has been an exciting one and the whole possibility of things has made it easy and more fun for gaming.

And if things continue in this manner in no distant time we will see more improved development that could solve some of the challenges faced with using bots and provide a better way to interact with the bot during the game session.
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Is different a betting method or a betting algorithm than an AI... I have done some betting bots in the past with a betting algorithm, you know, double after X losses, change the multipliers and stop after x win. And even if its a smart betting method is not an AI because to make form it an AI it should take it's own decisions.

If you ask to an AI for the best betting method since it's smart it will say, avoid betting against a game with a house edge, there is no single method to win in the long run.

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April 17, 2023, 08:16:19 PM
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Well, I think that the Metaverse indeed has some place in the future, but that future is very far way in my opinion.
the current experience is simply not immersive enough to be appealing for people or gamblers in general.

Also we could argue that the source of entropy or percentage of winning could be easily manipulated. We like to bet on horses or football teams because we assume that all the parties involved are doing their best to out-perform their foes, and they go through intensive training and preparation in before.
The AI gambling would take all those variables away and with it, part of the experience which much people may like.
 

 

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