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April 18, 2023, 09:00:27 PM
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My question is that will the game of AI horses will become so popular that people will start betting on it ? The AI horses are basically run by the machine with no human intervention and the horses programmed efficiently will always have more chances to win. And by the way, since its, not a physical game, you can replace the horses with any object like cars etc  Huh

And I agree that there may be no comparison to watching and betting on real horses than to bet on these so-called "Programmed AI Horses."

If you're betting on real horses you will not like the idea there's nothing like betting on real horses and analyzing their strengths and weaknesses, these horses on AI can be manipulated, and the human experience of seeing the horses you bet in real life is enjoyable, than betting in AI-generated horse because, in the back of your mind, you will think that its fake and manipulated and you will not like the experience.
AI can be used in many industries but the horse racing betting industry will not welcome this idea and will not accept replacement betting in real life.
 

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April 18, 2023, 09:58:12 PM
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I can't see how you can decide which horse to bet on. Are you able to see the features of these competing AI horses?
It could be rigged all the time much like the phony race of Yobit. You can't complain about what is unfair to this kind of game. That's how it sounds and the house typically could just program which will win, all you can do is wait for the pattern and when it is your turn to win.

It's in meta though so are we the ones riding as the jockey?
If we will spend money to bet, then at least we should go where there are higher chances of winning than to spend in betting where the result of the game is already programmed since the horses involved are not real but only imaginary. That’s the reality with AI gambling, that’s why I don’t see it more attractive to gamble as I’m used to bet in physical casinos where everything is visible and games are real and not imaginary.
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April 18, 2023, 10:16:38 PM
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I can't see how you can decide which horse to bet on. Are you able to see the features of these competing AI horses?
It could be rigged all the time much like the phony race of Yobit. You can't complain about what is unfair to this kind of game. That's how it sounds and the house typically could just program which will win, all you can do is wait for the pattern and when it is your turn to win.

It's in meta though so are we the ones riding as the jockey?
If we will spend money to bet, then at least we should go where there are higher chances of winning than to spend in betting where the result of the game is already programmed since the horses involved are not real but only imaginary. That’s the reality with AI gambling, that’s why I don’t see it more attractive to gamble as I’m used to bet in physical casinos where everything is visible and games are real and not imaginary.
^ I understand your point because we know virtual gambling, such as AI-generated horse racing, may not have the same appeal for some people. But virtual gambling has some advantages over traditional gambling. For example, it can be more convenient, as it can be done from the comfort of your own home. It can also be more accessible, as it may be available in areas where traditional gambling is restricted. Whether or not virtual gambling is attractive depends on personal preference. Some people may find it appealing due to its convenience and accessibility, while others may prefer the excitement of traditional gambling.
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April 18, 2023, 10:55:45 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses?


I prefer to bet on real horses because it's more enjoyable for me. However, some people like to bet on new games and there is something called AI that is not new in the market. If we can learn and enjoy it, why not try it? But I would still limit my bet, as betting on real horses is different from betting on horses generated only by a computer.
And most likely, if it’s computer generated, the game is more corrupted that will give us unlikely results that’s quite far from our predictions. So the essence and effectivity of the game will be lessen. That’s why i don’t easily bet on AI games, and when I bet maybe it’s just to experience something new, and nothing more than that. I still prefer to bet on games that I can perfectly see with my own two eyes physically.

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April 18, 2023, 11:33:14 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.
AI gambling doesn't sounday less ridiculous compared to trading with an AI.

When it comes to simulations, I think that makes some sense as, it cuts across seasonings and having to wait on your sports event to come through before you continue gambling.

Simulation gambling has been around, horse race, dog race or even football. These have been around for sometime and there isn't anything new of it as it somehow keeps you gambling.

You've got to be cautious though as, its some of the easiest way to lose money quickly.
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April 18, 2023, 11:39:51 PM
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    -  Do you mean racing robot horses built by AI? So what is the name of the project you are talking about? Besides what you said, when did gambling online become a dream? Honestly, what you say is also weird...

Now, when the robot horses are said to be racing, it means that there is a high chance that someone is controlling the robot horse. It's hard to bet on that compared to racing natural horses.

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April 19, 2023, 10:14:10 AM
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I don`t sure that i understand right. But as i think the OP is talking about something about online game where gamers grow up their horses. I don`t sure that it is about gambling it is mostly about games. And i don`t think that it would be more interesting than horse betting in real life.
I'm just still digesting what the OP meant earlier, worried that there would be confusion in this discussion, so I'm just sharing my opinion from what I caught, I've seen a kind of horse NFT game from Zed run whether they're still active or not, but as far as I know look they have a horse racing game using NFT, well even though I have never tried it but I have seen a youtube video of a horse racing game on zed.run.

But talking about AI gambling, I'm not sure the game will be useful and many gamblers are interested in playing it because games involving AI don't necessarily look attractive for gamblers to play, let alone use the metaverse, currently not many use it en masse either because of that technology too still not so perfect and still in the stage of better development. but it seems interesting if there is a horse racing game where we can raise it ourselves as well as train it
When we are talking about NFT games i don`t think that it is something common with AI gambling. In such games the big part of the result depends on how the player grows up his horse. And after it some algo calculates the winner. I can`t say that it is AI gambling - just NFT game with horses.

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April 19, 2023, 10:40:34 AM
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Gambling like that is much more challenging since you are the one taking care of the horse (fine tuning) so that you can beat other player's horses. Some games nowadays in gambling have AI like the horse race. Live horses have records too but the downside is we don't know the real condition of the horse unlike in AI horses where the owners are the one who are taking care of the horse up to it's peak or having much better breed of the horse. AI gambling is not bad or in my perspective, AI gambling is okay.

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April 19, 2023, 10:52:43 AM
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I'm not sure how that works but for me as long as it is safe and they can't rigged it then I would probably try it out. Do you have the link of the website on what you are talking about? I'm getting curious about it and I think that was more better than the traditional horse betting, why? first it will not use real horse which I think are bred for racing and of course it's not 24/7 unlike this AI horse racing where you can place bet 24/7.

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April 19, 2023, 11:08:39 AM
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If you're a gamer you can relate to how this AI horse-generated game works, but if you're horse betting on live horse racing it will be unacceptable, nothing can replace the excitement when real horses are the ones vying to be the fastest horse on a lap.
These AI-generated games can gain support because there is a gaming community that is open to adopting these AI-generated games, but it's still up to the gambling community if they are open to accepting AI-generated games.

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April 19, 2023, 12:55:53 PM
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If you're a gamer you can relate to how this AI horse-generated game works, but if you're horse betting on live horse racing it will be unacceptable, nothing can replace the excitement when real horses are the ones vying to be the fastest horse on a lap.
These AI-generated games can gain support because there is a gaming community that is open to adopting these AI-generated games, but it's still up to the gambling community if they are open to accepting AI-generated games.
They will probably receive support, but not as much as traditional sports betting. We know that the sports betting industry is a huge billion-dollar industry. So even if AI horse racing becomes popular, it will still be just one of the many online games that provide excitement when we place a bet. However, it will compete to the traditional sports betting when it comes to market share.

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April 19, 2023, 02:48:40 PM
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I think that gambling as a place in metaverse and its a one of kind chance. Probably new kind of games could emerge or just new way to place a bet. In any case It Will be something big for sure.

Regarding real horse racing, if you followed you know very well that is something impossible to virtualize.
Ok there are manu attempts and examples but the real ones are simply amazing.

No one will remember a virtual horse. Meanwhile a nome like Frankel/Varenne/Kauto star It will stand forever in annals and memories of gamblers Wink

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April 19, 2023, 02:49:02 PM
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I'm not sure how that works but for me as long as it is safe and they can't rigged it then I would probably try it out. Do you have the link of the website on what you are talking about? I'm getting curious about it and I think that was more better than the traditional horse betting, why? first it will not use real horse which I think are bred for racing and of course it's not 24/7 unlike this AI horse racing where you can place bet 24/7.
Betting on traditional horse races is more fun because we have to be able to choose a horse that has a greater chance of winning than other horses. This requires collecting more complete data to find the right horse. As for the AI horse, @OP said that we could develop it into a perfect horse that can beat the opponent's AI horse. And that's where the fun we find in betting on traditional horse racing comes from.

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April 19, 2023, 03:24:41 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.


This doesn't sound surprising to me. AI horse rising is like dog race that has been existing . But to make bets on real horses can be virtualized in metaverse where two or more people can bet on that. This reminds me of traditional polo games, a field sport that involves horses played with wooden mallet striking on a hard ball to score the opponent. I won't be surprised if this is existing likewise.
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April 19, 2023, 03:38:08 PM
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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.
I think you are talking about a Metaverse game where it would be possible to have virtual horses ruled by AI, which are possible to be improved and upgraded for better performances during the races, that can generate profit for gamblers who guess the winners correctly.

Well, there are every kinds of plans and ideas on this niche of crypto industry, but if it would work for real it's another story. Personally, I see gamblers wouldn't go through this whole process in order to place some bets on horses, since they can simply do this on physical races that happen in real time and don't rely on virtual mechanisms, such as AI and Metaverse, to work.

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April 19, 2023, 05:26:35 PM
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For me it's a no, I can't bet on an AI horse because it can be manipulated behind the scene, even with real horses some big powerful people use strength injections, I don't know the real names, on the horses before a race, and there have been many dirty secrets revealed in horse racing games, those secrets get revealed because it's real horses and humans, compare it to AI horses, it will be hard to know that it's been manipulated. The idea is brilliant but I doubt it can be perfected without many flaws, I will love to see such a thing turning into reality.
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April 19, 2023, 06:09:46 PM
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This reminds me about one NFT based project and it was once popular one on the bitcointalk itself. The name was IOTA gaming. They had similar concept about the car racing. The higher the version of your car it was obviously easier to win the game. The catch was all of them were NFT based cars. You had to buy them to upgrade them. Beta used to start prior to racing and thus creating a winning amount depending on how you done with the race.

There was no actual race animation. There were just timer, and 2D representation on whose car is progressing where etc etc.

I think what you described already happened in the NFT world. If that happens in metaverse then good luck mate, but it’s really not going to work the way you are imaging it.
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April 19, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
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It will be a good idea if the developers craft the whole innovation well, gamblers don't care about anything more than winning, even if the games are AI based they will give a try or even they heard about people making some nice gains from the game, but metaverse with gambling isn't a necessary combination, it's not a must.

Right now things are looking good for online casinos, gamblers are happy with Slots and Roulette, and others that are presently available on gambling platforms, the only innovation that I believe that gambling can benefit from is AI, not the metaverse.

AI can help gambling platforms to reduce fraud and improve necessary checking among new incoming gamblers to the online casino.
80% of gamblers yes but the rest 30% care only about the games, design, and other similar features. Both type of players will play new innovations in the gambling arena such as this AI but both of them can also stop playing on it if they think they are unlucky on it or if adding AI only makes the game ugly. If they will try AI then why not the metaverse when both are the same. They make things more futuristic.

Let's add in the NFT because it's also part of the metaverse. This should make the game more fun to play and maybe profitable if one is strategic. AI works well in security purposes and even our phones now have AIs. It will surely help combat the frauds.

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April 19, 2023, 07:08:26 PM
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For me it's a no, I can't bet on an AI horse because it can be manipulated behind the scene, even with real horses some big powerful people use strength injections, I don't know the real names, on the horses before a race, and there have been many dirty secrets revealed in horse racing games, those secrets get revealed because it's real horses and humans, compare it to AI horses, it will be hard to know that it's been manipulated. The idea is brilliant but I doubt it can be perfected without many flaws, I will love to see such a thing turning into reality.
Grin sorry but how can you want to see betting on Ai horses turn into reality, but you've at the beginning said it's a no for you, simply means you are not sure whether you will bet on them or not..

And besides, real horses don't have names, they only have number tags, this is for the ones I've seen though, I don't know if other persons have seen one with names, but for me, all the horse races I've watched, the horses participating in the race are tagged with a number, and no name.

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April 19, 2023, 07:13:43 PM
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AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome,  this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.
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