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May 24, 2023, 08:02:27 AM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.

AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.

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May 25, 2023, 07:53:02 AM
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AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
Agree, I also have the same feeling where there is a sense of annoyance or annoyance but on the other hand the use of Al in gambling is a sophisticated technology that is made to help facilitate human work.
If it's in a game maybe I will reject the use of Al, but if it's only to help support services or in chat rooms maybe this can be accepted.
So far I have seen that many gambling sites have used Al to help the team in support, service and also in chat rooms.

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May 25, 2023, 09:43:23 AM
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AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
Agree, I also have the same feeling where there is a sense of annoyance or annoyance but on the other hand the use of Al in gambling is a sophisticated technology that is made to help facilitate human work.
If it's in a game maybe I will reject the use of Al, but if it's only to help support services or in chat rooms maybe this can be accepted.
So far I have seen that many gambling sites have used Al to help the team in support, service and also in chat rooms.
Of course there is a difference when you play with another person and when your opponent is AI. 
First of all, because you don’t even know approximately how strong the enemy is, who uses AI or even represents AI without human participation.  Even when I have to choose an opponent in the game, I will be very upset and puzzled if I even know a little bit that AI is being used at least in some form.  Maybe someone likes to play with AI.  But this is simply because of the interest in the new fashionable technology, and not at all because of the passion for gambling itself.  And this necessarily imposes some kind of technical and rather formal flair on the game itself. 
So I categorically do not want to play with AI, but I want to play relevant games only with real people who have their own emotions and can make mistakes and get upset and nervous, however, of course, just like myself.  Smiley

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May 25, 2023, 09:57:14 AM
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AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
Agree, I also have the same feeling where there is a sense of annoyance or annoyance but on the other hand the use of Al in gambling is a sophisticated technology that is made to help facilitate human work.
If it's in a game maybe I will reject the use of Al, but if it's only to help support services or in chat rooms maybe this can be accepted.
So far I have seen that many gambling sites have used Al to help the team in support, service and also in chat rooms.
You are very correct, I wouldnt want to mention names, but I know atleast, two casinos that have implemented Ai bots in their customer support chat to help to facilitate queries from customers pending when a real human being would answer the chat, and personally, this bots are so intelligent that some times, one might not even take notice that he or she is chatting with a bot, atleast, I've had a first hand experience with this.

Like I said in my previous comment, if it ever get to a time when Ai becomes a threat to casinos and some type of games., casinos will definitely come together a possible solution to the threat.

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May 25, 2023, 01:31:44 PM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.

AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
I think it depends on your purposes. If i want to get profit - you will use all advantages you can get - including AI. If you`re gambling for fun, to get some emotions - it would be better to gamble by yourself - it much more exciting to make a bet with your own analyze and watch the match after it. For casino games nothing changes i think.

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May 25, 2023, 03:32:34 PM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.

AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
I think casinos have thought about AI technology so that people can take advantage of this technology to get gambling wins, I know AI technology cannot fully help our gambling aspects, but it can analyze or predict how to win a little from casinos, I have never tried it but I have seen that there are also many games that use AI technology or AI gambling.

I'm not sure that AI can work in gambling and be effective because after all it's still as smart as AI doesn't fully read how to play opponents or casinos, to be honest no one knows what AI gambling is like, I'm more interested in the old ways of playing ordinary casinos than with AI.

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May 25, 2023, 06:49:27 PM
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I understand that the free version of chatgpt is the one that everyone has the option to enter except for the sop prohibited countries, in my case my country is prohibited and there is no way I could enter because they need numbers from foreign countries for a simple registration, And even so, if you have it, it does not allow users from my country to enter, I do not know if the apga version allows them to enter, however I have thought about the following, if CHATGPT-4 allows you to make videos and a series of things is very Simple, the prediction functions are not available to common users, but I'm sure they have worked on them, but they don't release them to the world.
Can you really not access ChatGPT? I didn't know that they have some countries restricted and they cannot use their services, I thought it's available worldwide and anyone from any country can use it. If you can't access the free version, I bet you can't access the paid version as well if it's a restriction for your country of residence.

About betting or prediction abilities, I don't think that they've done anything in specific about that, the difference between both versions is that the paid version has access to the most up to date data and also provides more accurate and sophisticated answers to prompts.

Well no, only to the main page, but when it is given to start it shows that it cannot be accessed, and also not even with VPN because for the registration the telephone number of the country where you reside is needed, but the number with a chip because the numbers that are digital, no, so because I live in a prohibited country (which I don't see any sense in) what I know about Chatgpt is what I've seen on YouTube, and despite this I've only seen videos of the free version, and although the The tool is powerful, I imagine that Chatgpt-4 can do many Things that it can't, like videos, drawings, the rest I think it's still Programmed to not make Predictions.

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May 26, 2023, 06:56:38 AM
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Of course there is a difference when you play with another person and when your opponent is AI. 
First of all, because you don’t even know approximately how strong the enemy is, who uses AI or even represents AI without human participation.  Even when I have to choose an opponent in the game, I will be very upset and puzzled if I even know a little bit that AI is being used at least in some form.  Maybe someone likes to play with AI.  But this is simply because of the interest in the new fashionable technology, and not at all because of the passion for gambling itself.  And this necessarily imposes some kind of technical and rather formal flair on the game itself. 
So I categorically do not want to play with AI, but I want to play relevant games only with real people who have their own emotions and can make mistakes and get upset and nervous, however, of course, just like myself.  Smiley
It seems that on average those who use AI to gamble are not only interested in new fashion technology but also because of a desire to be able to win games more easily.
But unfortunately we cannot detect or predict who is using AI or which games tend to have a more difficult chance to win because there is help from Al, making it more difficult for us as gamblers.
I honestly prefer some sports betting over a game to avoid using AI.
What you want is what most gamblers want but it seems hard to find.

You are very correct, I wouldnt want to mention names, but I know atleast, two casinos that have implemented Ai bots in their customer support chat to help to facilitate queries from customers pending when a real human being would answer the chat, and personally, this bots are so intelligent that some times, one might not even take notice that he or she is chatting with a bot, atleast, I've had a first hand experience with this.

Like I said in my previous comment, if it ever get to a time when Ai becomes a threat to casinos and some type of games., casinos will definitely come together a possible solution to the threat.
It seems that the 2 gambling sites you are referring to are the same as the site I encountered regarding the use of bots in their chat support.
Maybe this is a breakthrough to make the team's work easier and it's true that the bots they use are very smart, even if we don't observe them in detail, it's hard to tell whether it's chatting with the team directly or with bots.

I also believe that the casino will have solutions and measures in place to prevent Al from harming or adversely affecting the gambling industry in the future.

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May 26, 2023, 09:37:37 AM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.

AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
I think it depends on your purposes. If i want to get profit - you will use all advantages you can get - including AI. If you`re gambling for fun, to get some emotions - it would be better to gamble by yourself - it much more exciting to make a bet with your own analyze and watch the match after it. For casino games nothing changes i think.

No one will see an express, cheap and easy way of doing things and still prefer going through the norms, this is the general believe but that does not apllies in every conditions, another typical example is that you can make use of AI on the forum but it is not allowed if you're participating on a signature campaign, also you can be gambling under the use of this same AI but i can bet you thay not all games or bet will favour you with the use of AI, which means there must be proper application of AI where necessary and where it is not necessarily needed for use.

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May 26, 2023, 10:32:11 AM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.

AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
I think it depends on your purposes. If i want to get profit - you will use all advantages you can get - including AI. If you`re gambling for fun, to get some emotions - it would be better to gamble by yourself - it much more exciting to make a bet with your own analyze and watch the match after it. For casino games nothing changes i think.

No one will see an express, cheap and easy way of doing things and still prefer going through the norms, this is the general believe but that does not apllies in every conditions, another typical example is that you can make use of AI on the forum but it is not allowed if you're participating on a signature campaign, also you can be gambling under the use of this same AI but i can bet you thay not all games or bet will favour you with the use of AI, which means there must be proper application of AI where necessary and where it is not necessarily needed for use.
Your example is incorrect. Using AI for posts is the same to using AI for betting. But i don`t talk about using AI for betting - it is about analyze. the AI gives you the result that you can use yourself as you want.
Of course some casino will restrict using AI and, probably use AI to analyze their odds. But it means that the casino will get advantage. It is difficult enough to be honest to both sides in this question.

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May 26, 2023, 11:28:31 AM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.
AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
I think we need to stop discussing this over and over again and accept that AI and gambling have no match at all. Artificial Intelligence is not yet designed to be compatible with any kind of gambling whether it's sports betting, poker, or any other gambling game or activity. If one tries using it to get instructions and gameplay techniques, it might repeat the same things already available on the internet, but it won't come up with anything new.

That is why, we should simply just forget this and move on for now, and when the time is right and AI becomes compatible with gambling, we will definitely come to know about it and then we should discuss it and try it as well.

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May 26, 2023, 02:03:11 PM
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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

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May 26, 2023, 03:55:01 PM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.
AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gamble all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
I think we need to stop discussing this over and over again and accept that AI and gambling have no match at all. Artificial Intelligence is not yet designed to be compatible with any kind of gambling whether it's sports betting, poker, or any other gambling game or activity. If one tries using it to get instructions and gameplay techniques, it might repeat the same things already available on the internet, but it won't come up with anything new.

That is why, we should simply just forget this and move on for now, and when the time is right and AI becomes compatible with gambling, we will definitely come to know about it and then we should discuss it and try it as well.

Ai could be useful in the early stages of our gambling activities, but we couldn't always rely on it. Since the program, as well as answers, are always the same, they are not long-term solutions. However, there is no assurance that we will always receive responses from Ais when it comes to tactics. It would be preferable if we relied on our expertise and comprehension of gambling. We can't deny the fact that Ai is getting really useful in our daily activities which benefit our career, studies, and so on but it still needs more development before it exceeds human intelligence.
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May 26, 2023, 08:36:20 PM
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I have no idea where you can get that data, however there are websites out there which sell information about the stock markets which can be used to backtest your strategy or to create a trading bot, so I imagine there should be websites as well which could sell that data for sport events, data which you can later use to feed to an AI, however this can be a complex process as most algorithms will need the data to be preprocessed before the AI can understand it and make a model out of it.

I have always thought about the way they extract data to put it in speculative markets and with the use of AI tools, since everything related to AI is so fashionable now for anything, you have to see that with gambling and especially with sports betting predictions must be made, but at the level of an AI programmer I don't know how efficient it is that they can run a good test to see how accurate it is, I doubt that it can be quite accurate because this is hardly It is dndao and those who have a lot of money are the ones who will have access to this kind of information.
The process should be similar to the one trading AIs have to go through, in which roughly 80% of the data is given to them and the rest is kept from the AI in order to test the model that it has been created, this way you can test the effectivity of the AI immediately against results you already have in hand, still the process should be incredibly complex and I do not expect that your average person should be able to do something as difficult as this.
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May 26, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
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You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.
AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gamble all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.
I think we need to stop discussing this over and over again and accept that AI and gambling have no match at all. Artificial Intelligence is not yet designed to be compatible with any kind of gambling whether it's sports betting, poker, or any other gambling game or activity. If one tries using it to get instructions and gameplay techniques, it might repeat the same things already available on the internet, but it won't come up with anything new.

That is why, we should simply just forget this and move on for now, and when the time is right and AI becomes compatible with gambling, we will definitely come to know about it and then we should discuss it and try it as well.

Ai could be useful in the early stages of our gambling activities, but we couldn't always rely on it. Since the program, as well as answers, are always the same, they are not long-term solutions. However, there is no assurance that we will always receive responses from Ais when it comes to tactics. It would be preferable if we relied on our expertise and comprehension of gambling. We can't deny the fact that Ai is getting really useful in our daily activities which benefit our career, studies, and so on but it still needs more development before it exceeds human intelligence.
That means that you would fully trust the AI when playing the game for the first few times, yes? for when to stop? when to know stop? Because if we are playing with the AI and if we keep playing and winning and winning? How would you do it or what would that criteria be like to do it, I think that some rules can be made, because AI can help you think faster than us, but it must also have something like a limit and that limit can be established by the same programmer, but if this is the case, you must be fully sure of doing it so as not to lose money , because it is the last Straw to also lose with something safe.
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May 26, 2023, 10:34:25 PM
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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Well, you are very correct, betting with Ai at the moment is a total waste of money for the same reasons you already explained..

How ever, I will still say that even in the long run, we can't completely depend or base our betting decisions on Ai, because they still won't be completely programed to take into consideration unforseen circumstances like bad whether, a player sustaining a serious injury and can no longer play, or a player getting a red card, thereby sent out of the field which also reduces the number of players for that team, this are circumstances and more, Ai can't really predict before it happens, and we all know that this can negatively(for the affected team) and positively(for the unaffected team) affect the outcome of a match.

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I very much agree with everything you said. In gambling, AI might not really be considered perfect in making predictions now compared to human ideas. But if, in a few months or a year to come, it has really been tested and verified to be more perfect at making accurate predictions and winning than humans, then everyone will even want to use it, including myself. When given thought to some kind of matter like this, I always considered some implications and possibilities as well, and what I was reasoning one day was that if truly, this gambling AI becomes more accurate in making more wins than humans, that's going to result in bad business for all these casinos, and they can go out of business because gamblers will not lose so much. Again, I was thinking that this casino owner can even make the AI biased in the sense that it might also create more losses for gamblers after they have started using it. But I am yet to see what the late result of this AI in gambling will look like. Might be good or not.

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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

There are similar concepts already existing, that are powered digitally. Using AI might be able to improve this concept in terms of efficiency and speed however I don't see how much it could be improved with AI outside of that. For example, in terms of fairness, if it is truly fair already, AI won't make it any fairer.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

Of course. I am pretty sure that already exists.
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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

I appreciate what AI can do for us but not all areas work great, especially in gambling. Though we can solicit ideas from this stuff, however, it was just limited. As I've tried betting using AI, it only suggests choosing the higher odds which it mentions to have a bigger chance to win and I think that is a similar thing we do when betting. That is why I would agree with you saying that the use of AI in gambling doesn't make sense. Apparently, they have the idea but it was not reliable enough to trust compared to us human.
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May 27, 2023, 08:00:50 PM
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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.









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