How does AI gambling sound?

[South Park]

No AI regardless of how advanced it may be can guarantee short term results, however just as a casino can suffer a loss due to a gambler being lucky but then they can recover that money easily if given enough time, an AI dedicated to gambling could do the same, however developing such an AI should be incredibly difficult as before you can do it you will need to be an expert gambler and an expert on the field of AI, and very few people are experts at both of those topics.

There cannot be AIs that can beat the random numbers generated by the casinos using RNGs because that is the only way one can beat the casino, and it is definitely not going to be difficult to create an AI that will simply set the parameters and click a button for you because that is what a human does when playing gambling games and that is exactly what an AI would do as well, they won't be able to beat the casino in any possible way as the results are generated randomly.

Now even if there are such AI models developed, I don't think it would be fun to use them because the fun factor of gambling is to be able to see the results of a spin or a dice roll and if an AI is doing that, you don't get to see that at all and casinos will also start banning users using such things if detected.

Obviously, however we are not really talking about those games but games in which the skill of the player can overcome the odds given by the casino with skillful play, now computers are already better than humans playing poker, however this is a fair game in which all the players on average receive the same cards, however in theory it is possible to develop an AI which can beat the casinos in a game like sports bets, as there are already humans that can do so already and developing an AI with that level of skill should be possible.

[DoublerHunter]

Obviously, however we are not really talking about those games but games in which the skill of the player can overcome the odds given by the casino with skillful play, now computers are already better than humans playing poker, however this is a fair game in which all the players on average receive the same cards, however in theory it is possible to develop an AI which can beat the casinos in a game like sports bets, as there are already humans that can do so already and developing an AI with that level of skill should be possible.

^ I got your point which it is evident that some games can be skill-based and that computers have already surpassed human abilities in certain games like poker. However, the focus here is on games where player skill can tilt the odds in their favor against the casino. While poker is a fair game with equal card distribution, the possibility of developing an AI capable of outperforming casinos in games like sports betting is feasible. Human bettors have already demonstrated this skill, and creating an AI with such capabilities should be possible.

[wiss19]

Obviously, however we are not really talking about those games but games in which the skill of the player can overcome the odds given by the casino with skillful play, now computers are already better than humans playing poker, however this is a fair game in which all the players on average receive the same cards, however in theory it is possible to develop an AI which can beat the casinos in a game like sports bets, as there are already humans that can do so already and developing an AI with that level of skill should be possible.

I totally agree that there can be AI models that can play pretty well in games like Poker or BlackJack where the results aren't randomly generated other than the cards provided at the beginning of the game, also in sports betting, an AI model might be able to evaluate the teams or players participating in a particular game and provide the best guess based on the data it has used to analyze both sides, but an AI model can never be able to win against the house in casino games.

However, I believe the casinos will find a way to tackle this issue and they won't allow AI models to play, a gambler using an AI model will be detected and will probably be banned or restricted which will discourage other players willing to use AI to gamble because it can cause them the balance they have in their accounts.

[summonerrk]

Obviously, however we are not really talking about those games but games in which the skill of the player can overcome the odds given by the casino with skillful play, now computers are already better than humans playing poker, however this is a fair game in which all the players on average receive the same cards, however in theory it is possible to develop an AI which can beat the casinos in a game like sports bets, as there are already humans that can do so already and developing an AI with that level of skill should be possible.

I totally agree that there can be AI models that can play pretty well in games like Poker or BlackJack where the results aren't randomly generated other than the cards provided at the beginning of the game, also in sports betting, an AI model might be able to evaluate the teams or players participating in a particular game and provide the best guess based on the data it has used to analyze both sides, but an AI model can never be able to win against the house in casino games.

However, I believe the casinos will find a way to tackle this issue and they won't allow AI models to play, a gambler using an AI model will be detected and will probably be banned or restricted which will discourage other players willing to use AI to gamble because it can cause them the balance they have in their accounts.

That's right, at the same time, it's very easy for AI to play such games. And even before the blackjack game could be controlled by scripts, there is not even necessarily the presence of AI for such a simple task.
But friends, I thought about this problem much more broadly. What if AI is the death of online card games?
After all, platforms cannot track AI interference in the game in any way. For example, you use AI on another computer, and it turns out that the only way for the casino to suspect you of cheating is to see that you suddenly began to win.
But will the casino then be able to justify this, which will suspend you or ban you?
No.
It turns out that soon the only way to play cards is to play live in a casino.

[letteredhub]

Obviously, however we are not really talking about those games but games in which the skill of the player can overcome the odds given by the casino with skillful play, now computers are already better than humans playing poker, however this is a fair game in which all the players on average receive the same cards, however in theory it is possible to develop an AI which can beat the casinos in a game like sports bets, as there are already humans that can do so already and developing an AI with that level of skill should be possible.

^ I got your point which it is evident that some games can be skill-based and that computers have already surpassed human abilities in certain games like poker. However, the focus here is on games where player skill can tilt the odds in their favor against the casino. While poker is a fair game with equal card distribution, the possibility of developing an AI capable of outperforming casinos in games like sports betting is feasible. Human bettors have already demonstrated this skill, and creating an AI with such capabilities should be possible.

@doublehunter did you  also thought about the other aspect too, don't you think the casino house would also go ahead to create a counter mechanism that should put them in the advantage too to beat the player skill and AI capability to outperform. Don't forget that this is business and the casino houses are also investing into research to develop strategies they could use to minimize players wins and maximize profits too. IMO introducing AI gambling will trigger a constant struggling between the gambling house and AI users.

[noormcs5]

Obviously, however we are not really talking about those games but games in which the skill of the player can overcome the odds given by the casino with skillful play, now computers are already better than humans playing poker, however this is a fair game in which all the players on average receive the same cards, however in theory it is possible to develop an AI which can beat the casinos in a game like sports bets, as there are already humans that can do so already and developing an AI with that level of skill should be possible.

^ I got your point which it is evident that some games can be skill-based and that computers have already surpassed human abilities in certain games like poker. However, the focus here is on games where player skill can tilt the odds in their favor against the casino. While poker is a fair game with equal card distribution, the possibility of developing an AI capable of outperforming casinos in games like sports betting is feasible. Human bettors have already demonstrated this skill, and creating an AI with such capabilities should be possible.

@doublehunter did you  also thought about the other aspect too, don't you think the casino house would also go ahead to create a counter mechanism that should put them in the advantage too to beat the player skill and AI capability to outperform. Don't forget that this is business and the casino houses are also investing into research to develop strategies they could use to minimize players wins and maximize profits too. IMO introducing AI gambling will trigger a constant struggling between the gambling house and AI users.

The gambling platform will use AI for their benefit only. There is no such thing as AI users because the users will not be allowed to implement their AI on the gambling site, only the gambling houses can integrate AI in their games but they will make sure that the AI will sense the gambler's move and make sure will lose more.

Why I am saying this because gambling houses is a business and businesses always use technology in their favor and not against them. If AI was only an advantage to the gamblers, the gambling houses would have never supported Artificial Intelligence.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Some AI can really work and if you happen to find one of such AI it will be much profiting like just like trading AI, but the challenge is that AI can't guarantee 100% chances and no bot can guarantee that also but then we can say that since AI is a new development one need to take the time to really understand its mechanism and operational approach and since AI has to do with programming codes it then means that AI will act according to the scripted programs and codes.
So be that as it may, it means that we have to go unto some form of research to uncover all the potentials and limitations of AI presents.

No AI regardless of how advanced it may be can guarantee short term results, however just as a casino can suffer a loss due to a gambler being lucky but then they can recover that money easily if given enough time, an AI dedicated to gambling could do the same, however developing such an AI should be incredibly difficult as before you can do it you will need to be an expert gambler and an expert on the field of AI, and very few people are experts at both of those topics.

There cannot be AIs that can beat the random numbers generated by the casinos using RNGs because that is the only way one can beat the casino, and it is definitely not going to be difficult to create an AI that will simply set the parameters and click a button for you because that is what a human does when playing gambling games and that is exactly what an AI would do as well, they won't be able to beat the casino in any possible way as the results are generated randomly.

Now even if there are such AI models developed, I don't think it would be fun to use them because the fun factor of gambling is to be able to see the results of a spin or a dice roll and if an AI is doing that, you don't get to see that at all and casinos will also start banning users using such things if detected.

Well, don't hesitate, they will create and use that, obviously they will look for the shape that looks as good as if it was made by a human, that is, they will fail a couple of times and they will bet big against the ones that win, or the few that they win, so that it can be seen that it is luck and human, I don't know under what parameters they can say or determine that it is an AI, because it will be something very difficult. If something happens that has or causes problems, there will be a lot of allegations of scams, they will be everywhere, so that is something that many AI experts will need to be able to be judges and determine who is right or wrong. I've seen it, maybe I was wrong, but that's what I'm thinking can happen.

What happens is that I think we are getting too far ahead of what can happen, but I speculate all this in the sense that things can happen like this, in addition we know that the AIs are training and learning all the time, this makes things they may get complicated for casinos in the near future, maybe I have high expectations about AI, robots, but it is a technology that still needs to mature a lot, some data is taken from the web and that is something that I sometimes do not trust , there is no source that is really reliable, the information is very diverse and can be classified as one of those that need to do audits or something to be totally credible, but since the databases of many investigations, of well established algorithms, can improve, thanks to that hope is that I can base myself on what I say.

There are many AI experts, of course they are focused on other types of things, such as medicine, improvement of processes in manufacturers, in digital systems, in everything that improvements can be made, casinos, well I don't think they have given it It is very important because it is something that does not help a human being very much, well in terms of money yes, but in terms of medicine if it is more necessary I consider, as well as education and in different areas.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It's like that friend, and they won't stop their efforts until they at least achieve something, personally I don't think they're going to be very successful for now, AI for now is seen as a fad, it's not pure AI at all, what's done is AI, it's more important to use and have human intelligence to do any analysis well, you always see strange behaviors in some players, it may be that you're using an AI, you don't know, but beating a casino system is very difficult, I don't deny that at some point they can achieve it, but it is very difficult, an AI is not that powerful either, I know that many programmers have trained the AI in every way, but beating a casino is not easy.

They already achieved something but we know humans, we can't be contented easily and we always want to excel more or go beyond our limits. I still don't think that it will lead for a total defeat of the casino because that will be weird if it happens. It's going to cause a chaos in the gambling field. AI isn't a fad. It's a legit technology but there might be fake AI models out there who only join the hype.

A true AI is strong but it does have its own limitations. It's hard to win alone, that is why some people are forming a group. They combine their capital and share insights on how can they improve their play. Maybe they can win more but not to the point of destroying the casino.

Well I do not rule out in the future if something more can be done with the AI, but for now the things are not 100% enough to say that an AI can defeat a casino, I have read many comments from the most AI experts here in the forum, they have experimented with ChatGPT-4, they say that much of the information that the robot retrieves is from the web, I don't know if it is from well-argued pages or something, I don't know how good the filter is robot, I know that as time goes by the I can increase its power in information and filter out the good from the fake, it is something that I imagine the rprogram does, however when we start to observe, if it goes at that stage it is Because it still needs a lot of development, it is difficult for an AI to know everything precisely.

An Ia can give information according to what is considered well established according to credible sources that are reliable. but these things still have a long way to go, I still see it in a very testing stage, careful but testing, in casinos things are usually more difficult, the algorithms are much more secure, in addition the use of blockchain makes the processes have even more security, it has not been said that an AI can beat the blockchain, I know that an AI can make calculations with greater precision and much faster, this is an advantage, but there is still a long way to go, to overcome or break these codes of the Games is something very difficult, so far I don't see it as possible, we have to wait and see how the AI continues to progress, but at times I see it as difficult for an AI to beat a casino.

[ethereumhunter]

The gambling platform will use AI for their benefit only. There is no such thing as AI users because the users will not be allowed to implement their AI on the gambling site, only the gambling houses can integrate AI in their games but they will make sure that the AI will sense the gambler's move and make sure will lose more.

Why I am saying this because gambling houses is a business and businesses always use technology in their favor and not against them. If AI was only an advantage to the gamblers, the gambling houses would have never supported Artificial Intelligence.

That is true because casinos will adopt AI for their benefit and benefit. And even though some users also use AI, they will not always be able to face the AI of the casino because the casino will be able to take care of their business well. And, indeed, casinos won't allow users to use AI while playing at their venues.

The presence of AI will certainly provide an advantage for gamblers and casinos, but casinos will not always allow gamblers to win. This gambling business will develop more with the presence of AI so there might be updates made by casinos related to the use of AI. Users can also not expect wins from casinos because that is their business. Business owners want to keep getting the biggest profit from losing gamblers.

[tusandii]

@doublehunter did you  also thought about the other aspect too, don't you think the casino house would also go ahead to create a counter mechanism that should put them in the advantage too to beat the player skill and AI capability to outperform. Don't forget that this is business and the casino houses are also investing into research to develop strategies they could use to minimize players wins and maximize profits too. IMO introducing AI gambling will trigger a constant struggling between the gambling house and AI users.

Until now I have the same thoughts as you where casinos will definitely make aspects of response or artificial intelligence that tend to be better than AI in general so that they can be far ahead of what gamblers use.
It's true that this is a business so owners and managers will definitely not stay silent when they are threatened by losses, even casinos must be willing to spend big budgets to be able to have a system that is smarter than AI.

So far, there hasn't seemed to be an AI that can actually beat the casino or house edge.

[Slow death]

speaking of AI. in the last few days I've seen a lot of people on social media posting pictures with children and when I pay attention to the photo and the caption I realize that they don't have children in the real world, but the photo was generated by AI, so it's quite impressive what AI is managing to do, so I keep asking myself what the AI could do to predict the result of a soccer game, how far would the AI be able to do better than human beings, and at the same time it comes to my mind that if a person using the AI so that wouldn't be cheating? in sports betting the AI would simply give its prediction of the result of the game and after that the person would bet in the casino

but I wonder how a person using AI generated predictions could consider himself a gambler. because when we say that a person is a good bettor, and a professional bettor we are saying that this person has good skills, we are saying that this person can do good game analysis and has a large number of hits, so with these good results we pass to respect that person

now when that person uses AI to be successful then that person becomes a fraud, he is not the one who has skills, but the AI, so the use of AI could make all people become lazy and we no longer have good sports bettors , that would be the end of professional bettors, all we would have is AI and lazy people, I honestly see this as a very bad thing, there are limits that people should not cross, and in my opinion this is a good example of that limit that should not to be crossed by would delay the evolution of people

[NewCryptocasinos]

Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

I absolutely think Gambling will be something that push the Metaverses forward, like it did with the whole industry in the beginning.
I have already tried the gambling experience at Decentralands Metaverse, they have a whole district at Decentralands Metaverse for gambling and i believe we will see bigger and better gambling metaverses in a near future.

[QueenVera]

Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble othe     
 nline with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

I don't think I like the idea of fine tuning horses to get better results and i feel that most players could have a better advantage against others which I consider very unfair, the idea of AI was to upgrade the gaming activities to get better performances and not for individuals to use it in an unfair manner against another player, I'll rather prefer the use of AI to control all the horses and then each users would pick a horse they feel stand a better chance of winning.
 I'm no really a fan of stimulated gambling games that are not real, I prefer real life horses with physical agility and controlled and ridden by normal humans and gamblers would bet fairly and win based on a particular horses past performances or lucky enough to pick the best horse, however would definitely become very popular in the near future and of course gambling activities are going to be included in the metaverse because it would help attract gamblers to participate in it.

[Webetcoins]

speaking of AI. in the last few days I've seen a lot of people on social media posting pictures with children and when I pay attention to the photo and the caption I realize that they don't have children in the real world, but the photo was generated by AI, so it's quite impressive what AI is managing to do, so I keep asking myself what the AI could do to predict the result of a soccer game, how far would the AI be able to do better than human beings, and at the same time it comes to my mind that if a person using the AI so that wouldn't be cheating? in sports betting the AI would simply give its prediction of the result of the game and after that the person would bet in the casino

but I wonder how a person using AI generated predictions could consider himself a gambler. because when we say that a person is a good bettor, and a professional bettor we are saying that this person has good skills, we are saying that this person can do good game analysis and has a large number of hits, so with these good results we pass to respect that person

now when that person uses AI to be successful then that person becomes a fraud, he is not the one who has skills, but the AI, so the use of AI could make all people become lazy and we no longer have good sports bettors , that would be the end of professional bettors, all we would have is AI and lazy people, I honestly see this as a very bad thing, there are limits that people should not cross, and in my opinion this is a good example of that limit that should not to be crossed by would delay the evolution of people

I totally agree with what you feel about all this, though AI can assist humans in almost everything in the future, as what machines did with humans, making them lazy and more dependent, the same thing is going to happen again with humans and AI tools and models because once humans come to know that they can use an AI model for every specific work, they will become too lazy to do anything themselves and they will use AI to do all the work while they rest.

And that won't only affect jobs and industries, but it will also affect humankind, we will once again become totally dependent on technology to do everything for us, including gambling which is an activity that is fun for a lot of people, for some, it might be a source to get more money, and those are the people who will surely enjoy this revolution.

[danadc]

speaking of AI. in the last few days I've seen a lot of people on social media posting pictures with children and when I pay attention to the photo and the caption I realize that they don't have children in the real world, but the photo was generated by AI, so it's quite impressive what AI is managing to do, so I keep asking myself what the AI could do to predict the result of a soccer game, how far would the AI be able to do better than human beings, and at the same time it comes to my mind that if a person using the AI so that wouldn't be cheating? in sports betting the AI would simply give its prediction of the result of the game and after that the person would bet in the casino

but I wonder how a person using AI generated predictions could consider himself a gambler. because when we say that a person is a good bettor, and a professional bettor we are saying that this person has good skills, we are saying that this person can do good game analysis and has a large number of hits, so with these good results we pass to respect that person

now when that person uses AI to be successful then that person becomes a fraud, he is not the one who has skills, but the AI, so the use of AI could make all people become lazy and we no longer have good sports bettors , that would be the end of professional bettors, all we would have is AI and lazy people, I honestly see this as a very bad thing, there are limits that people should not cross, and in my opinion this is a good example of that limit that should not to be crossed by would delay the evolution of people

I totally agree with what you feel about all this, though AI can assist humans in almost everything in the future, as what machines did with humans, making them lazy and more dependent, the same thing is going to happen again with humans and AI tools and models because once humans come to know that they can use an AI model for every specific work, they will become too lazy to do anything themselves and they will use AI to do all the work while they rest.

And that won't only affect jobs and industries, but it will also affect humankind, we will once again become totally dependent on technology to do everything for us, including gambling which is an activity that is fun for a lot of people, for some, it might be a source to get more money, and those are the people who will surely enjoy this revolution.

What occurs to me is that if a player manages to have access to an AI where he can win a lot of money in a casino, he will use it, and that is something that the casinos are not ready for yet, because there are many who are working for that. , and they can't do it, it's not like they say that when they go to play with the AI they're going to defeat the casino and leave it bankrupt, it's not like that either, but any player who gets an AI to win a lot of money, they're going to say no? no, they will obviously use the AI for that, there will be many things that casinos must protect, therefore security in casinos must be very high so that they do not suffer these attacks , which can happen Quickly or in a short Time.
   

[South Park]

speaking of AI. in the last few days I've seen a lot of people on social media posting pictures with children and when I pay attention to the photo and the caption I realize that they don't have children in the real world, but the photo was generated by AI, so it's quite impressive what AI is managing to do, so I keep asking myself what the AI could do to predict the result of a soccer game, how far would the AI be able to do better than human beings, and at the same time it comes to my mind that if a person using the AI so that wouldn't be cheating? in sports betting the AI would simply give its prediction of the result of the game and after that the person would bet in the casino

but I wonder how a person using AI generated predictions could consider himself a gambler. because when we say that a person is a good bettor, and a professional bettor we are saying that this person has good skills, we are saying that this person can do good game analysis and has a large number of hits, so with these good results we pass to respect that person

now when that person uses AI to be successful then that person becomes a fraud, he is not the one who has skills, but the AI, so the use of AI could make all people become lazy and we no longer have good sports bettors , that would be the end of professional bettors, all we would have is AI and lazy people, I honestly see this as a very bad thing, there are limits that people should not cross, and in my opinion this is a good example of that limit that should not to be crossed by would delay the evolution of people

This is why we have people talking about the risk that such a technology could bring to us as a species, as an AI is not like any other piece of technology we have ever created, as an AI has the potential not only of making part of our jobs easier but to do it completely on its own, do it better than us and replace us, so there are some people at the top very worried about this tendency, however it is impossible to escape its influence because as long as people can make money with it then they will keep using it.

[LUCKMCFLY]

speaking of AI. in the last few days I've seen a lot of people on social media posting pictures with children and when I pay attention to the photo and the caption I realize that they don't have children in the real world, but the photo was generated by AI, so it's quite impressive what AI is managing to do, so I keep asking myself what the AI could do to predict the result of a soccer game, how far would the AI be able to do better than human beings, and at the same time it comes to my mind that if a person using the AI so that wouldn't be cheating? in sports betting the AI would simply give its prediction of the result of the game and after that the person would bet in the casino

but I wonder how a person using AI generated predictions could consider himself a gambler. because when we say that a person is a good bettor, and a professional bettor we are saying that this person has good skills, we are saying that this person can do good game analysis and has a large number of hits, so with these good results we pass to respect that person

now when that person uses AI to be successful then that person becomes a fraud, he is not the one who has skills, but the AI, so the use of AI could make all people become lazy and we no longer have good sports bettors , that would be the end of professional bettors, all we would have is AI and lazy people, I honestly see this as a very bad thing, there are limits that people should not cross, and in my opinion this is a good example of that limit that should not to be crossed by would delay the evolution of people

This is why we have people talking about the risk that such a technology could bring to us as a species, as an AI is not like any other piece of technology we have ever created, as an AI has the potential not only of making part of our jobs easier but to do it completely on its own, do it better than us and replace us, so there are some people at the top very worried about this tendency, however it is impossible to escape its influence because as long as people can make money with it then they will keep using it.

I think just like we are all players or as any type of professional that we are, the AI can bring problems, because not only in sports events, the AI can replace any professional at any time, for example those who are professionals, an AI can give a much better class than a teacher and with clear, up-to-date and very precise examples, if it complies with all the associated planning and evaluates the points that are needed so that the person has a total understanding and can be fully prepared, in other professions They have also been affected because the AI can obviously do things much faster and it is easier to buy a robot that has upgrades and that upgrade is much cheaper than an average salary and can also replace several professionals in their field.

Now as you say, some will use the AI to give their predictions and obviously it will make their life easier, because all the work that a person can do, the robot does it in seconds and that is a very good advantage, there will be some who will leave everything in the hands of the robot and bulls that will help the robot to corroborate what they think, but with time everything will remain in the hands of a robot that tells it what to do, maybe life will become easier, but I think that true bettors will not believe much in what a robot says and not its criteria, sometimes the human criteria is superior to that of a robot, because a robot cannot put emotions or anything like that, a human does have those things that are sometimes favorable or unfavorable, depending on what you can do, that is something that can be taken into consideration all the time to get quick results, on many occasions people will use it and when they see results, everything will be easier, although for now I don't think the Things can happen so quickly, things have to go at a different pace so that they can be done better and not get carried away by technolog , which is not bad , but it can do some damage.