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I guess now I'm going to be using JARPI as an AI-buster: AI-generated topic It is highly likely that the OP of this topic has created it entirely using AI such as ChatGPT. This has been verified by @NotATether who has ran the content through multiple AI detector websites. Therefore, it is recommended that this topic is locked, as no further constructive discussion can be added to this topic.
Users who see this message should report this topic to a moderator, requesting it to be locked, instead of facilitating the spread of spam.
This reply was auto-generated by JARPI, an AI protocol created by NotATether for automatically replying to frequently asked questions, and other common types of posts. Alright, now I think you're on to something. I have to ask out of curiosity, and due to my own thread on the issue, which AI detectors are you going to use, and how are you weighing the results? Are there different levels of likeliness, or will it only post replies in threads that come back as "highly likely" to be AI-generated?
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April 25, 2023, 09:02:48 AM |
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I guess now I'm going to be using JARPI as an AI-buster:
Look, I think this idea is better than answering questions! But, based on the automatic text, I had a doubt: Do you first manually validate the AI's suspicion and then post, or does it post automatically? Or are you the one who suspects a topic, and puts the JARPI to analyze which then makes the post in case of a positive result? Third option is correct. I ran OP's text through many AI detectors and all of them gave AI-generated indicators, so I fired up JARPI to send the warning. I have to ask out of curiosity, and due to my own thread on the issue, which AI detectors are you going to use, and how are you weighing the results? Are there different levels of likeliness, or will it only post replies in threads that come back as "highly likely" to be AI-generated?
I use at least three different AI checking websites. Or more than three if even one of them doubts that the text is not completely AI-generated. I do not use the GPTZero website - I had too many false positives with it.
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April 25, 2023, 10:06:15 AM |
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don't you think, when many people will report that thread or post by watching JARVIS's reply, then maybe the moderator will be frustrated by too many reports. (i don't know how it seems from mod side, but maybe it will become confusing when too many people will report.)
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April 25, 2023, 10:25:13 AM |
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don't you think, when many people will report that thread or post by watching JARVIS's reply, then maybe the moderator will be frustrated by too many reports. (i don't know how it seems from mod side, but maybe it will become confusing when too many people will report.)
How many of them will actually report though, out of the ones that are reading it Unfortunately, even after making the announcement, and showing the AI detection results in big fat pictures, there are still idiots who are mindlessly replying to that thread. Moderators probably have a huge backlog of reports to deal with anyway, and the worst that will happen is that the report is simply unhandled.
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April 25, 2023, 10:39:35 AM |
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Aren't you the same person whitelisting them back to the forum now? how many of those users became a big part of the forum well I don't expect you to answer
Sorry Op for going off-topic
I don't know why but I feel like you are trying to trigger him (good try). None of them are paid jobs. He is doing it voluntarily and he is not responsible for what they do after. Most of His whitelisted users doing good. He often posts the Ban %. If you are trying to trigger him, I am sorry but he is unlikely to pay attention to you as he proved himself as a thick-skinned gang leader. We were just having a chat and he felt it wasn't the proper place because it was a little off-topic from the OP, I simply made my perspective plain to him, it's nothing personal, and BTW, we're still on the same track. Leave it to the moderator to decide and quit pressing. I have to ask out of curiosity, and due to my own thread on the issue, which AI detectors are you going to use, and how are you weighing the results? Are there different levels of likeliness, or will it only post replies in threads that come back as "highly likely" to be AI-generated?
I use at least three different AI checking websites. Or more than three if even one of them doubts that the text is not completely AI-generated. I do not use the GPTZero website - I had too many false positives with it. This is somewhat preferable to the previous plan, but my concern is what would happen if everyone disregards the JAPI response and proceeds with their discussion regardless of whether it was generated by AI or not, similar to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448187.msg62145641#msg62145641. Since there are currently no explicit forum rules against AI and no 99% proved AI detector tools, nobody appears to care and the moderator won't lock a thread just because JAPI says so. there is a light at the end of the tunnel but the challenges looks bigger.
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April 25, 2023, 11:14:24 AM |
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I guess now I'm going to be using JARPI as an AI-buster:
Look, I think this idea is better than answering questions! But, based on the automatic text, I had a doubt: Do you first manually validate the AI's suspicion and then post, or does it post automatically? Or are you the one who suspects a topic, and puts the JARPI to analyze which then makes the post in case of a positive result? Third option is correct. I ran OP's text through many AI detectors and all of them gave AI-generated indicators, so I fired up JARPI to send the warning. Are you going to manually look for suspected AI posts, do manual scanning, and check whether or not it's AI created before triggering JARPI to act? I thought JARPI was meant to be a bot conducting this errand for you rather than you running the errand? What's the point if there's still a bunch of shitwork for you to do?
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April 25, 2023, 11:34:49 AM |
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Third option is correct. I ran OP's text through many AI detectors and all of them gave AI-generated indicators, so I fired up JARPI to send the warning.
So basically you browse the forum normally, and when you think an OP was made by AI, you submit the topic for JARPI analysis. Then it will analyze and if it concludes that the text was generated by AI, it will post the ad. This is it? Thus, you stop worrying about analyzing these cases in detail, and you can continue to browse the forum normally looking for other cases. Seems to be an interesting tool, to free your time from those boring analyses. Honestly, I find this option much more useful and interesting than answering repetitive topics.
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April 25, 2023, 01:00:55 PM |
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Are you going to manually look for suspected AI posts, do manual scanning, and check whether or not it's AI created before triggering JARPI to act? I thought JARPI was meant to be a bot conducting this errand for you rather than you running the errand? What's the point if there's still a bunch of shitwork for you to do?
This is a new idea, so the automation has not been coded in yet. I would definitely like to automate the AI detection part sooner or later. Third option is correct. I ran OP's text through many AI detectors and all of them gave AI-generated indicators, so I fired up JARPI to send the warning.
So basically you browse the forum normally, and when you think an OP was made by AI, you submit the topic for JARPI analysis. Then it will analyze and if it concludes that the text was generated by AI, it will post the ad. This is it? Thus, you stop worrying about analyzing these cases in detail, and you can continue to browse the forum normally looking for other cases. Seems to be an interesting tool, to free your time from those boring analyses. Honestly, I find this option much more useful and interesting than answering repetitive topics. That's basically correct, but see my reply to borovichok. I'm eventually going to have this run through all newly created topics and run the detection automatically (using an API to some websites or Selenium). This is somewhat preferable to the previous plan, but my concern is what would happen if everyone disregards the JAPI response and proceeds with their discussion regardless of whether it was generated by AI or not, similar to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448187.msg62145641#msg62145641. Since there are currently no explicit forum rules against AI and no 99% proved AI detector tools, nobody appears to care and the moderator won't lock a thread just because JAPI says so. there is a light at the end of the tunnel but the challenges looks bigger. I guess I'll have the bot file a report every 24 hoursw for a period of 2 weeks, or until the thread is locked. Whichever comes first.
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April 25, 2023, 02:09:35 PM |
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That's basically correct, but see my reply to borovichok. I'm eventually going to have this run through all newly created topics and run the detection automatically (using an API to some websites or Selenium).
Sounds good to me. Just suggested that in this case, the autotext be a little different, just saying it's suspicious content and not making a direct recommendation for it to be reported. That is, to be a more alert text for readers to be aware of, and not a condemnatory text.
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That's basically correct, but see my reply to borovichok. I'm eventually going to have this run through all newly created topics and run the detection automatically (using an API to some websites or Selenium).
Sounds good to me. Just suggested that in this case, the autotext be a little different, just saying it's suspicious content and not making a direct recommendation for it to be reported. That is, to be a more alert text for readers to be aware of, and not a condemnatory text. Is it possible to configure your proposed JARPI to behave similarly to the auto ChatGT bots on Twitter? It triggers whenever someone tags it in a post and provides extremely good analyses. If I see a suspected AI post that I'm not sure about, I'll just @JARPI on the thread to determine if it's AI generated or not. I think it'd be better this way than you doing all of the work. Create JARPI and make it available to anyone who needs it.
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