This guy gave a whole prototype of "how live roulette scam us"

[cafter]

I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.


"The practice when the roulette balls are made of piezoeletric ceramiC.The material used is Barium Titanate BaTiO3 on the surface, and Barium sulfate BaSO4 on the inside insulation.
The ball caries polarized surface charges when hit by anultrasonic sound wave. This is sent from the inter- digital transducers placed in the pockets of each number.
They send a wave to the ball that polarizes the surface with a negative charge.
The spoon/ pocket  of the number olso negative; thereforethe ball jumps out trough electrostatic repulsion.
Each number pocket is controlled by a transistor called IGBT.
This transistor turn on the switch so that the pocket is negatively charged.
The control room computer leaves the pockets that it wants the ball to go in neutral or of.
This is akk maneged by the sophisticated software and computers.
So that why you can see situation when the ball geteither pushed out violentely od sucked into the exact to a number.
I am positive you know that the ball stick to a number like a dart and also ball being pushed out from the pocket after almost completestop.
So this would be yes this technique could be possibly used to manipulate the outcome.
This is happening on you live dealer wheels."

in comment of this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0rNhLySb0k

do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

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[Stedsm]

Scamming through roulette is definitely possible. However, can I ask you to gamble a same size bet on all 36 numbers except 0 and see if the casino manages to bring up number 0 only in the very same game? If they do, can you please repeat it and see if they do it again in the next game too? I'm not favoring any casinos here and I know that such practices do take place in roulette, however not all of them would do it.  As well, it's not the casino specifically but the game provider that does this and if that's true, we should never play games from such game providers because they'll only try to loot your money by making you lose every single bet. Even in the game of cards (be it blackjack, poker, andar bahar, etc.) I have witnessed that most of the times, dealer wins. So it's possible that they have something behind the scenes that we don't know about.

[Oshosondy]

Roulette has been my best casino game and it is very easy to play. What I do think about is that we are many that are selecting numbers to win or lose and we can not select the same number or pick the same number range, people will select different numbers and numbers in range. If I play like 3 times or more and I am losing, I may leave and not using the online casino roulette again and the casino itself. I have played roulettes on reputable casinos and I think the win and loss are not bad. But that YouTube video truly showed how Roulette can be manipulated if truly the roulette ball or pill can be controlled by a remote.

[Slow death]

I don't play those games that depend on luck like roulettes, but from what I see the roulette games in crypto casinos are provably fair or am I wrong? being that the roulette games of crypto casinos are proven fair so I believe that the providers of roulette games are audited by third parties or even online casinos can audit the roulette game before adding it to their casino with that we can be sure that they are demonstrably fair. now talking about roulette in live casinos I also think that in live casinos all equipment is audited by the government entity that grants licenses to the casino

I'm not a citizen of the USA or Europe, but looking at how the laws and rules are much more put into practice as here in Africa, I think it's hard to imagine that the roulette machines in physical casinos that have a license are machines that have been tampered with for a long time. long without the government sector that grants the license knowing about it, this guy accuses that the machines are tampered with, but then why doesn't he report it to the police and so that they arrest the person responsible for doing this? and in the video they do not mention which casino has done this, so it is difficult for people to be able to take precautions and report these casinos that do this

[acroman08]

I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.


"The practice when the roulette balls are made of piezoeletric ceramiC.The material used is Barium Titanate BaTiO3 on the surface, and Barium sulfate BaSO4 on the inside insulation.
The ball caries polarized surface charges when hit by anultrasonic sound wave. This is sent from the inter- digital transducers placed in the pockets of each number.
They send a wave to the ball that polarizes the surface with a negative charge.
The spoon/ pocket  of the number olso negative; thereforethe ball jumps out trough electrostatic repulsion.
Each number pocket is controlled by a transistor called IGBT.
This transistor turn on the switch so that the pocket is negatively charged.
The control room computer leaves the pockets that it wants the ball to go in neutral or of.
This is akk maneged by the sophisticated software and computers.
So that why you can see situation when the ball geteither pushed out violentely od sucked into the exact to a number.
I am positive you know that the ball stick to a number like a dart and also ball being pushed out from the pocket after almost completestop.
So this would be yes this technique could be possibly used to manipulate the outcome.
This is happening on you live dealer wheels."

I wonder where he got this information from. quite curious about it and would have loved to read more into it if there is more.

do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

in the video, it does look like it is possible. As for whether this is already being used by popular game providers? maybe maybe not, all really we can do is speculate, of course, unless there is solid evidence that popular game providers that you mentioned are using the technology shown in the video,

[ryzaadit]

In evolution-games

There some roulette called "Auto-roulette", It's live game, however, the roulette spins them self without the dealer. So, the question how they can pull up the ball without being lifted from a person?

Yes, the ball could be a magnet and they use magnet to pull & spin the ball. It's possible they can manipulated the outcome? yes based on how this game can be running live without dealer.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It is not just roulette, any game can be manipulated as long as its online based, but I believe this is where trust and reputation comes in, gamblers have to trust that the casino they are playing on will not engage in such dubious activities, and also, the casino, for the sake of their reputation, should not engage themselves on such act.

Anything is possible, as far as I know, I've actually read a topic like this before, but can't really remember if it was on this forum or  another forum, but all things being good, it's a bad practice to do such, and for some casinos, this is not even worth their reputation if they ever engage in such act.

[Hispo]

It is possible, there has been several instances on how shady and small casinos have manipulated their roulette in the past, to increase the chances of the house to win more often. Nowadays with the advance of electronics and science of materials, it has become easier for those tables to be manipulated without anyone ever noticing, not even the casino workers, since they could leak information to the public.

That is why proper inspection and regulation is important, in the case of brick-and-mortar casinos. In the case of online casinos, people should go with those that support provably fair games and learn how to verify them.

[coolcoinz]

In evolution-games

There some roulette called "Auto-roulette", It's live game, however, the roulette spins them self without the dealer. So, the question how they can pull up the ball without being lifted from a person?

Yes, the ball could be a magnet and they use magnet to pull & spin the ball. It's possible they can manipulated the outcome? yes based on how this game can be running live without dealer.

They don't have to touch the ball at all. The ball is magnetized and the electro magnets in the wheel get turned on and off, making it avoid certain spots. For instance, if someone places a very large bet on a certain number, only that number will get magnetized in the opposite way to the ball, so it will go into any other slot, just not the one with the bet.

They've been doing it for at least a 100 years. In very old casinos the tables had a button that turned a big magnet on to make the ball jump up. The dealer controlled the button and it allowed him to make the ball spin a bit more if it was already falling into a slot where the bet was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TavAtAr9gIU
Here's a rigged table from 1920 where they use coils to operate a pin that pushed a ball into a given side of the wheel. It wouldn't allow you to control the colors but was used to make the ball avoid the numbers where the biggest bets were.

[Victorybit1]

I'm already aware that roulette games are programmed before getting to see this.

It's a business, you wouldn't want everyone to win. How do they then make money from it since the sole aim of business Is to make a profit.

If 10 persons play a roulette spin game, 7 will lose while 3 succeed.

[_act_]

I don't play those games that depend on luck like roulettes, but from what I see the roulette games in crypto casinos are provably fair or am I wrong? being that the roulette games of crypto casinos are proven fair so I believe that the providers of roulette games are audited by third parties or even online casinos can audit the roulette game before adding it to their casino with that we can be sure that they are demonstrably fair. now talking about roulette in live casinos I also think that in live casinos all equipment is audited by the government entity that grants licenses to the casino

That is a reputable casino, probably some casinos can use that to cheat, but a reputable casino can not try that because they have house edge already, meaning that no matter how most players play, the casino will make more money from them. If making money is what would happen to casinos as they have more users, then why going for cheating? I do not think any reputable casino would go for this.

Since the time I have been playing roulette, I think the game is probably fair too.

[maydna]

I'm already aware that roulette games are programmed before getting to see this.

It's a business, you wouldn't want everyone to win. How do they then make money from it since the sole aim of business Is to make a profit.

If 10 persons play a roulette spin game, 7 will lose while 3 succeed.

This makes sense because the casinos don't want to see many people who manage to win the game and earn a lot of money. Casinos will do things we may never know and can only guess.

So in the roulette round game, perhaps it has been programmed so that not many people win. But I don't know if it's in a trusted casino, will they do it or won't they do something? But I don't think they would do anything to prevent people from winning at roulette.

[ryzaadit]

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I guess my opinion was right.

That's why avoided roulette, only play with bonus amount like Weekly from "Stake". I more prefer a card game rather than rouelete even if the deck was right, If the deck not on our side the out come are against us.

People should avoided roulete.

[goaldigger]

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I guess my opinion was right.

That's why avoided roulette, only play with bonus amount like Weekly from "Stake". I more prefer a card game rather than rouelete even if the deck was right, If the deck not on our side the out come are against us.

People should avoided roulete.

This is the problem where the casinos are more eager to win over the gamblers, a high probability to manipulate the system in favor to the house. I don’t play roulette that much as well but being cheated in live game is quiet shocking, what more can do when you play their offline games? This is not a good image for any casinos. Card games are indeed more ok and lesser chance of getting cheated.

[rhomelmabini]

So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.

[crzy]

So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.

Many will still ask for a proof and they will not believe on this easily, well this is how gambling works and even the top site have their own hidden strategy to get more wins over the gamblers. If you want to fee that you are safe from any cheating then play on physical casinos with the card games. Playing with slots are also possible to get cheated, just try to have fun and try to unseen this.

[TimeTeller]

So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.

Many will still ask for a proof and they will not believe on this easily, well this is how gambling works and even the top site have their own hidden strategy to get more wins over the gamblers. If you want to fee that you are safe from any cheating then play on physical casinos with the card games. Playing with slots are also possible to get cheated, just try to have fun and try to unseen this.

Everyone has their own choice anyway, so if you feel you are being cheated, then don't play.
Also, better play on top and reputable sites as they won't ruin their image by cheating allegations.
Because once a site has been proven to be cheating their players, that would be their reason to get out of this game.
Just follow your instincts if you can't see the proof. Sometimes your gut feel will save you from being screwed.

[Mahanton]

do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

No one knows but since this one had been shown on youtube then we could really say that it could really be applied and something that could really be done but everything would really be just remain a guess
considering that we cant really point out a solid evidence that they are really doing these things in behind. I cant just believed on what i have seen on the video where they could really possibly
forced up the ball on where it would really be heading on.I cant just believe that this one would really be ending up on getting rigged up on this way.For sure casinos
are already aware for those who had been using this stuff although the video is already 2 years old.

[coin-investor]

People should avoided roulete.

And I agree but online or offline roulette has huge followers its a very old game where it is offline and online casinos' main attraction, and not many people know how manipulation is going, they still believe that if you're lucky you're going to win when actually when manipulators happen to pick your spin as the next winner.
Some players already know about the manipulation but they claim they are here for fun, so they prefer to ignore

[Hamphser]

People should avoided roulete.

And I agree but online or offline roulette has huge followers its a very old game where it is offline and online casinos' main attraction, and not many people know how manipulation is going, they still believe that if you're lucky you're going to win when actually when manipulators happen to pick your spin as the next winner.
Some players already know about the manipulation but they claim they are here for fun, so they prefer to ignore

Rigged or being that manipulated is something that would really be that different in terms of application or integration if we do speak on online or offline roulettes which we have seen on what are the things that could

be done offline.Now, we dont have the idea on what are the possible things that could be rigged up on online roulettes on how results could be altered up into their advantage.Its true that people would really be
just simply sticking out into those casinos which does have that good reputation and popularity on which they would really be instilling into their minds that they've been dealing up on a place which is something fair.

Now that we are aware on how its been done then people would be keen on observing it out specially on offline or physical casinos.