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May 05, 2023, 08:21:32 PM
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Let’s assume they have such highly sophisticated system to jump the ball anywhere from 0-36 but I do not get the point here to do this.

At any given point, on any live casino and on any gambling site there are always hundred to thousand peeps are gambling their money on roulette table. How would the dealer know which number is most profitable to them?
There are high odds that every number is accounted for by hundreds of bettors across single game.

Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?
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May 05, 2023, 10:19:15 PM
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Provable fair games or casinos has been a thing of question but somehow, you've got to play. You've got to find a casino that appeals to your conscience and gamble with them. It doesn't have to be 100% but, could be better than the lot out there.

Manipulation of games could happen or intact does happen but, you could be rest assured its not only about Roulette. The rest games that follows similar sequence could be manipulated as well by means of them charges as presented. Where negative to negative would repel while the positive does attract.

I've seen these charges switch in electromagnetism but, having it used this way, its something I hoped not still, I would say online casinos are doing the most they could to earn trust and we've got very fair ones out here.

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May 05, 2023, 10:34:11 PM
 #103

Let’s assume they have such highly sophisticated system to jump the ball anywhere from 0-36 but I do not get the point here to do this.

At any given point, on any live casino and on any gambling site there are always hundred to thousand peeps are gambling their money on roulette table. How would the dealer know which number is most profitable to them?

It is simple they have the stats and they can know which one is profitable by just pressing a single button.  We are in an automation era na.  Manual stuff is jut the history of the past except for some cases of course.

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There are high odds that every number is accounted for by hundreds of bettors across single game.

As I stated, they can always create a program that can calculate which number is the most profitable one, and they can adjust the cheat with a single push of button outside the recording camera.

Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.
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May 05, 2023, 10:44:32 PM
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Provable fair games or casinos has been a thing of question but somehow, you've got to play. You've got to find a casino that appeals to your conscience and gamble with them. It doesn't have to be 100% but, could be better than the lot out there.

Manipulation of games could happen or intact does happen but, you could be rest assured its not only about Roulette. The rest games that follows similar sequence could be manipulated as well by means of them charges as presented. Where negative to negative would repel while the positive does attract.

I've seen these charges switch in electromagnetism but, having it used this way, its something I hoped not still, I would say online casinos are doing the most they could to earn trust and we've got very fair ones out here.
I don't think a lot of casinos, reputable ones most especially will resort to this kind of exploitation to maximize their profits. The business model is already highly favoring towards them as it is and doesn't need any more alterations or whatnot, plus the risk of being found out and getting rebuked over the internet, leading to customer losses and other detrimental things just outweigh the benefits. Which is why I trust casinos/crypto casinos to never do things like this.

And also the reason why I don't go out of my way to discover casinos besides the ones I already established my trust with. I don't and I couldn't gamble away my trust over extra prizes and bonuses, and am only here for fun and entertainment, so for the sake of being treated fairly I play on reputable casinos only.

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May 06, 2023, 02:18:21 AM
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I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.



Lucky for me because I only choose to play in casino that I trust and also trusted by many and that is what I do believe is great for safeties and not becoming a scam victim.
yes roulette is very easy to manipulate while the video given is indeed reliable , but if we choose to play in casino that care more about their reputation than profit?
then that will never takes place,
Roobet.com is one safe place to play and surely you will never regret playing there.
and also with so many bonuses , events , give away and other stuff that Gamblers or even bitcointalk memers are gaining?
I'm sure that those prototype scamming videos will never takes place .
just be cautious and vigilant and trust me  you will never be a victim ..NEVER!!!

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May 09, 2023, 04:37:49 AM
Last edit: May 09, 2023, 12:09:30 PM by borovichok
 #106

I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.
Lucky for me because I only choose to play in casino that I trust and also trusted by many and that is what I do believe is great for safeties and not becoming a scam victim.
yes roulette is very easy to manipulate while the video given is indeed reliable , but if we choose to play in casino that care more about their reputation than profit?
then that will never takes place,
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This is certainly not the first time a video have been posted for us to monitored and watch out for scams in gambling. Scams can never be completely eliminated from gaming; every day, we are made aware of a new fraud danger in the area, notably aimed at beginners. These are the ones that are most likely to fall victim to the hoax. I've seen top frauds pointed in my direction, but because to my experience and careful steadiness, I was able to stay out of all of their traps. My colleague was a victim of one of the alluring casino scams because he was too greedy and never accepted for less. Always desperate for additional money from the market, which is not recommended.  

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May 09, 2023, 07:07:11 AM
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I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.



Lucky for me because I only choose to play in casino that I trust and also trusted by many and that is what I do believe is great for safeties and not becoming a scam victim.
yes roulette is very easy to manipulate while the video given is indeed reliable , but if we choose to play in casino that care more about their reputation than profit?
then that will never takes place,
Roobet.com is one safe place to play and surely you will never regret playing there.
and also with so many bonuses , events , give away and other stuff that Gamblers or even bitcointalk memers are gaining?
I'm sure that those prototype scamming videos will never takes place .
just be cautious and vigilant and trust me  you will never be a victim ..NEVER!!!
This is certainly not the first time a video have been posted for us to monitored and watch out for scams in gambling. Scams can never be completely eliminated from gaming; every day, we are made aware of a new fraud danger in the area, notably aimed at beginners. These are the ones that are most likely to fall victim to the hoax. I've seen top frauds pointed in my direction, but because to my experience and careful steadiness, I was able to stay out of all of their traps. My colleague was a victim of one of the alluring casino scams because he was too greedy and never accepted for less. Always desperate for additional money from the market, which is not recommended. 
There is no wa that we can eliminate scammers , but the thing is that we can not allow them to victimize many by learning what needs to be done.
scammers are only there if there are willing victims , because why need to deal in not so trusted casino when we can easily join the most trusted sites?
lol better not to deal with them because we are here to win and enjoy and not just to give our money to those scammers .









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May 09, 2023, 07:33:35 AM
Last edit: July 14, 2023, 05:08:46 AM by slapper
 #108

I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.



Lucky for me because I only choose to play in casino that I trust and also trusted by many and that is what I do believe is great for safeties and not becoming a scam victim.
yes roulette is very easy to manipulate while the video given is indeed reliable , but if we choose to play in casino that care more about their reputation than profit?
then that will never takes place,
Roobet.com is one safe place to play and surely you will never regret playing there.
and also with so many bonuses , events , give away and other stuff that Gamblers or even bitcointalk memers are gaining?
I'm sure that those prototype scamming videos will never takes place .
just be cautious and vigilant and trust me  you will never be a victim ..NEVER!!!
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May 09, 2023, 08:37:32 AM
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It is not just roulette, any game can be manipulated as long as its online based, but I believe this is where trust and reputation comes in, gamblers have to trust that the casino they are playing on will not engage in such dubious activities, and also, the casino, for the sake of their reputation, should not engage themselves on such act.

Anything is possible, as far as I know, I've actually read a topic like this before, but can't really remember if it was on this forum or  another forum, but all things being good, it's a bad practice to do such, and for some casinos, this is not even worth their reputation if they ever engage in such act.
even for roulette, it is not good, like you've said, it is not worth their reputation in anyway.
I do not like to jump.into conclusion based on other person's opinion though, I'll have to personally confirm this.

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I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.
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May 09, 2023, 09:38:50 AM
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I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.
Casinos have their own way of doing it that we as gamblers don't need to know, after all it's not something uncommon for casinos to cheat or manipulate games, casinos can earn big money from what they do, I'm not a roulette gambler but I believe that there is interference hands of the casino in roulette and other slot machine games.

I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.

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Many will be surprised, but cheating in every Live game! Baccarat, Blackjack and more!
Play for small stakes at the first table. This way you increase your chances of winning.
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I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.
I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.

Wouldn't it be too obvious for small casinos to do this since there will be a lot of incentives for them to do this. Also, most of the small casinos are relatively new, and people are still on the process of reviewing every single detail on the platform and that includes the games, the functionality of the site, and the overall feel of the platform. With big casinos, they can pretty much get away with it although of course the risks are a lot greater for them compared to the small casinos because they can potentially lose a lot more than the small casinos.
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May 09, 2023, 09:35:46 PM
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I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.
I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.

Wouldn't it be too obvious for small casinos to do this since there will be a lot of incentives for them to do this. Also, most of the small casinos are relatively new, and people are still on the process of reviewing every single detail on the platform and that includes the games, the functionality of the site, and the overall feel of the platform. With big casinos, they can pretty much get away with it although of course the risks are a lot greater for them compared to the small casinos because they can potentially lose a lot more than the small casinos.
Being small or big, its never been that ideal nor wise nor really that ethical on having considerations on rigging up one of your games just to make some advantage against your players or clients who would really be
sooner or later would be able to bust up on what you've been doing on a particular time.Yes, you can cheat but on the time you would get busted then say goodbye into your business.

As of the mindset on having small casinos would be applying such cheat then it would be less likely, they would rather be going on that honest track rather than on being manipulative or cheating.
Some owners would really be having those kind of fear about karma or whatsoever in correlation to this because of none doing good or really that taking advantage of others.
When you do ran up a business then be fair as much as possible and this is where most owners would be getting in line with.

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May 10, 2023, 04:10:08 AM
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Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.
While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

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I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.



Lucky for me because I only choose to play in casino that I trust and also trusted by many and that is what I do believe is great for safeties and not becoming a scam victim.
yes roulette is very easy to manipulate while the video given is indeed reliable , but if we choose to play in casino that care more about their reputation than profit?
then that will never takes place,
Roobet.com is one safe place to play and surely you will never regret playing there.
and also with so many bonuses , events , give away and other stuff that Gamblers or even bitcointalk memers are gaining?
I'm sure that those prototype scamming videos will never takes place .
just be cautious and vigilant and trust me  you will never be a victim ..NEVER!!!
This is certainly not the first time a video have been posted for us to monitored and watch out for scams in gambling. Scams can never be completely eliminated from gaming; every day, we are made aware of a new fraud danger in the area, notably aimed at beginners. These are the ones that are most likely to fall victim to the hoax. I've seen top frauds pointed in my direction, but because to my experience and careful steadiness, I was able to stay out of all of their traps. My colleague was a victim of one of the alluring casino scams because he was too greedy and never accepted for less. Always desperate for additional money from the market, which is not recommended. 
There is no wa that we can eliminate scammers , but the thing is that we can not allow them to victimize many by learning what needs to be done.
scammers are only there if there are willing victims , because why need to deal in not so trusted casino when we can easily join the most trusted sites?
lol better not to deal with them because we are here to win and enjoy and not just to give our money to those scammers .

   -    That's true, amh scammer if he doesn't change, he will still find a way to scam people. That's why we should avoid and be wise in reading the scammer just to get money from other people.

And it's also common that a scammer can't scam a high-reputation casino gambling because they definitely won't be able to prey on it. So what they prefer is that it looks like a legitimate casino but it really isn't.

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May 10, 2023, 11:32:10 AM
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Thanks for your support mate!

Indeed, I'm tired of watching such videos, and it's even more annoying to see positive reaction to this garbage. 4k likes from losers that can't accept their losses without blaming someone!

And look at the pinned comment to the video:



A winning strategy for a totally luck-based game, FFS! What else do you need to see what kind of guy this RouletteMan is? But, no, some people just choose to be blind.
In a way this makes sense, if people came to accept the fact that they lost the money against a particular casino simply because that is how the games are designed to work and learn to move on, then how those which sell useless strategies are going to make money?

So they need to convince naive players that it is in fact possible to win in a luck based game, and some of the reasons that explain why this has not been the case yet is that they have been cheated and that they have yet to try the strategy they have created, reasons that we know are false but which will resonate with enough people so they keep trying those useless strategies.

Well, before I saw that pinned comment to the video I thought they were just a bunch of idiots on that channel, with another bunch following them. But saying they know how to win in roulette makes them liars, apart from still being idiots, obviously.

There's so little reliable info on gambling anywhere apart from this forum so that people watch and read some total garbage and some of them believe it. It's terrible.

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May 10, 2023, 04:18:20 PM
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Earlier I was curious about Roulette so that made me enter site to play it.
But it seems that Roulette is a slightly crazy game for now.
The numbers are indeed random, but there are statistics on the percentage of the number column which has a more profitable chance, but the statistics do not really guarantee the number the ball will occupy when it stops.
I played for a while and only saw small wins and no big wins at all for gamblers who also bet there.
Whether this is a pure manipulation game or really clean, I don't know what's clear, if you only have a small balance and can't accept defeat, it's highly not recommended to try this game.


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Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.
While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.
You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.

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May 10, 2023, 07:56:43 PM
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I have no reason to be scared why playing any game in a casino  because I believe  that the casino  wouldn't let a third party game provider to ruine their business name and hence would do some fi dings and auditing on the games before publishing them and that's why it is always good to trust a particular  casino so you wouldn't have to be bothered over some irrugalarities and I'm sure that if at any point an irregularity especially related to cheating is reported to the casino about a third party game and its provider,  there are great chances that the game might be taken down so there isn't any much need to be scared.

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