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May 16, 2023, 08:31:35 PM
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.


Bet according into your liking and preference on which there are indeed moments which i do really make out only bets on colors whether black or red but not considering on putting up some chips on 0.

It does really vary though because when betting up on colors then i could usually be making up some martingale strategy if ever it would be having a loss, which we know that this is a common
way or strategy when playing out which could be applied on slots too. It would really be impossible specially on a live casino or physical one on having that 3-5 same color streaks
unless if its really that been rigged or they would be detecting out that there's someone who do make some martingale.

As for online gaming platform then there's no way that we could be able to identify if they are really that rigging up their games on where they do really have that unfair every roll
they would made.

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May 17, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
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I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.
Well, slot machines are still the most loved and played gambling games in the world and the reason for that is probably the possibility of winning very big amounts due to the high multipliers that they provide while in roulette, you can't get that much even if you win a bet or two, also, the graphical user interfaces and gameplay of slot machines attract a lot of users.

I don't love roulette and that is the reason why I never play it but I have a relative who plays it a lot and I've seen him mostly betting or colors and also odd and even numbers as well since there are 50-50 chances of winning in these two.

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May 17, 2023, 03:48:34 PM
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I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.
Well, slot machines are still the most loved and played gambling games in the world and the reason for that is probably the possibility of winning very big amounts due to the high multipliers that they provide while in roulette, you can't get that much even if you win a bet or two, also, the graphical user interfaces and gameplay of slot machines attract a lot of users.

I don't love roulette and that is the reason why I never play it but I have a relative who plays it a lot and I've seen him mostly betting or colors and also odd and even numbers as well since there are 50-50 chances of winning in these two.

Even though I've tried my luck a few times, I haven't had any luck playing roulette. despite the fact that I attempted using some of the players' advised techniques, I was still unsuccessful. In contrast to when I played slots, I frequently obtain a good win even if I don't follow any rules or strategies. I continue to hear positive winning roulette player stories, nevertheless.
It might merely imply that there are games designed to make us feel lucky while we are enjoying ourselves. In a game that isn't our strong suit, we can't force ourselves to succeed. If we had luck playing it, we couldn't accuse any game of defrauding us. We should search for a better game that would suit our luck and interests if we feel unlucky while playing it.
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May 17, 2023, 04:27:12 PM
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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.

anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.

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May 17, 2023, 09:24:34 PM
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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.

anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.
I understand you, I also have friends who like roulette very much, and now when we can see the possibilities of winning roulette wheels, they are somewhat relevant, with little money you can obtain considerable profits, the bad thing is that a person bets a lot and they want to have or be in a better position, I have looked for many roulette strategies and they have quite a few, but you have to have a lot of money to apply them all and see which is the Best strategy , the one that best suits and has the most success, I have a way to play very carefully , I do not risk much, it is that the roulette wheels have many ways to Spend and not leave Profits , you must be very Careful.




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May 19, 2023, 06:06:40 PM
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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.

anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.
If a casino is cheating, it will obviously do it in such a way that gamblers won't even notice that they are getting scammed or cheated by the platform or the game they are playing, otherwise, the casinos that are being talked about would have already been closed down since a lot of people would already report them to the authorities that take care of them.

Only a few people might feel that something is wrong with the game or the casino and they might try to reach the end of that unless there is a player who doesn't really pay any attention to such things, all they care about is gambling.

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May 19, 2023, 06:24:05 PM
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The guy in the comment is speaking as if he was the dealer Back in Las Vegus and knows every ups and downs within the casino. I don’t believe this at all because of the odds and complicated assumptions from any bettor. At any time there might hundreds of bets that are live and thus making it impossible for the so called sophisticated computer to decide where to push the ball.

What if the number which computer decided is on the opposite side of the 360 round about, will it magically transfer the ball to that side? Seems some irrelevant information without any seen proofs.
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May 20, 2023, 04:41:44 PM
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Scamming through roulette is definitely possible. However, can I ask you to gamble a same size bet on all 36 numbers except 0 and see if the casino manages to bring up number 0 only in the very same game? If they do, can you please repeat it and see if they do it again in the next game too? I'm not favoring any casinos here and I know that such practices do take place in roulette, however not all of them would do it.  As well, it's not the casino specifically but the game provider that does this and if that's true, we should never play games from such game providers because they'll only try to loot your money by making you lose every single bet. Even in the game of cards (be it blackjack, poker, andar bahar, etc.) I have witnessed that most of the times, dealer wins. So it's possible that they have something behind the scenes that we don't know about.
The problem with that is, in online casinos there are a lot of people betting on various numbers and other things like odd and even etc. So, unless you find a time when the whole casino is empty, its probably not gonna work. Also, I'm sure they don't make it that obvious if the casino is actually rigged. I'm sure they are smart enough to no rig it everytime or it would be blatantly obvious and easily caught.

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May 21, 2023, 11:23:55 AM
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.


Bet according into your liking and preference on which there are indeed moments which i do really make out only bets on colors whether black or red but not considering on putting up some chips on 0.

It does really vary though because when betting up on colors then i could usually be making up some martingale strategy if ever it would be having a loss, which we know that this is a common
way or strategy when playing out which could be applied on slots too. It would really be impossible specially on a live casino or physical one on having that 3-5 same color streaks
unless if its really that been rigged or they would be detecting out that there's someone who do make some martingale.

As for online gaming platform then there's no way that we could be able to identify if they are really that rigging up their games on where they do really have that unfair every roll
they would made.
You've picked a fine kettle of fish to dissect - the Martingale strategy, a classic in the roulette wheel of betting techniques. But surely, we're not putting all our chips on just one square of the gambling chessboard, are we?

The Martingale, while popular enough to get invited to every poker night, carries a heavyweight risk tag. Hit a dry spell, and you'll see your bets climbing the staircase to bankruptcy quicker than a greased lightning. Ever heard of the D'Alembert strategy? It's like the Martingale's cousin from the quiet side of the family, a tad less boisterous because you only raise your bet by a single unit after a loss. Doesn't that sound like a smoother ride on the betting rollercoaster?

In the matter of online gaming fairness, you're hitting the bullseye when saying we can't peek under the hood to spot any rigged games. But hey, plenty of online casinos have a watchdog sniffing their heels, with regulations and routine check-ups ensuring they play fair. Shouldn't we extend a little trust to these guardians of fairness, or are we too deep in the trenches of doubt?


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May 21, 2023, 07:28:37 PM
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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.
anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.

I personally have been reading about the attitudes of roulette games organizers and I did not really see it as a thing to worry about because I have not had the experience with them. When I decided to try the game, I got registered on one of the roulette game and it is a live casino though so J had a little confidence in the system of being reliable, transparent and credible. I played several times and won big but I never made any withdrawal. One day the funny happened. While playing live I noticed how the staff present packed up after I had placed a bet, after taking their records, they went in while my bet was still pending I had to chat their live pm nobody responded and after a while waiting someone came in and I noticed a change in his behavior and there the game continued and I lost virtually all my bets and funds I used. Ever since that experience, I stopped roulette games and marked tat casino to not near them anymore.
   

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May 22, 2023, 04:10:40 AM
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Scamming through roulette is definitely possible. However, can I ask you to gamble a same size bet on all 36 numbers except 0 and see if the casino manages to bring up number 0 only in the very same game? If they do, can you please repeat it and see if they do it again in the next game too? I'm not favoring any casinos here and I know that such practices do take place in roulette, however not all of them would do it.  As well, it's not the casino specifically but the game provider that does this and if that's true, we should never play games from such game providers because they'll only try to loot your money by making you lose every single bet. Even in the game of cards (be it blackjack, poker, andar bahar, etc.) I have witnessed that most of the times, dealer wins. So it's possible that they have something behind the scenes that we don't know about.
The problem with that is, in online casinos there are a lot of people betting on various numbers and other things like odd and even etc. So, unless you find a time when the whole casino is empty, its probably not gonna work. Also, I'm sure they don't make it that obvious if the casino is actually rigged. I'm sure they are smart enough to no rig it everytime or it would be blatantly obvious and easily caught.
While without a doubt is possible there are casinos that cheat their customers at the roulette, such a thing will require such a complex mechanism that it makes way more sense for the casino to simply change their payout structure, this way they can achieve the same effect without cheating anyone.

Besides a great deal of the accusations against casinos come from gamblers which are sore losers and they cannot accept it is indeed possible to lose many times in a row and lose all their capital, especially if they are not careful.
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May 22, 2023, 09:03:33 AM
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With the level of technology that's available to humans now it's very possible to remotely influence the outcome of every spin as a way to reduce winnings to it's barest minimum. Game providers are the ones in the frontline of any cheat that is being experienced in online casinos but there are other better ways to do things fairly to still keep business running and profitable at same time without having to defraud people behind the scene.

 For any online casino that cares so much about reputation and gaining trust from their customers I believe that the best interpretation they can give to that is to refute any cheat game cause there are lots of gamblers that definitely pays attention to these acts because it doesn't give value to their hard earned money.

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May 22, 2023, 09:31:06 AM
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
That is the essence of the game mate , it become more difficult but it is more profitable , the only thing you need is find luck and you will easily succeed in your gambling activities .

but nowadays i stopped playing lightning instead i choose regular roulette in which there is little than that to earn but at least not that difficult to deal with.

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Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.
well that is what we must do , and besides what will be the return if we cry because of the rigged games?

lets just find a better site and trust me , you will never experience such that .

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May 22, 2023, 10:03:42 AM
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.

What you say is true when I bet on numbers the chance of winning is smaller and if I bet on the pool there are 3 and I have to choose one of them.
The method you use is quite good where you bet on colors because there are only 2 colors and the chances of winning are greater than choosing numbers.
The choice of number 0 is a little difficult to win because remember that the number 0 very rarely comes out when the ball stops.
It seems that you are quite experienced in playing roulette, friend, good luck in every roulette game session you play.

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May 22, 2023, 11:23:11 AM
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With the level of technology that's available to humans now it's very possible to remotely influence the outcome of every spin as a way to reduce winnings to it's barest minimum. Game providers are the ones in the frontline of any cheat that is being experienced in online casinos but there are other better ways to do things fairly to still keep business running and profitable at same time without having to defraud people behind the scene.

 For any online casino that cares so much about reputation and gaining trust from their customers I believe that the best interpretation they can give to that is to refute any cheat game cause there are lots of gamblers that definitely pays attention to these acts because it doesn't give value to their hard earned money.
Now that the technology aspect we are into is advancing everyday, we should expect more of these things to surface especially people seeking for a way to manipulate systems to get what they really wants.
 Now we now have chatgpt that is advising with fast speed and other artificial intelligence that are coming up with great improvement. It will soon get to a time where many system is going to be compromised because of how technology is advancing.

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May 22, 2023, 12:40:59 PM
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Scamming through roulette is definitely possible. However, can I ask you to gamble a same size bet on all 36 numbers except 0 and see if the casino manages to bring up number 0 only in the very same game? If they do, can you please repeat it and see if they do it again in the next game too? I'm not favoring any casinos here and I know that such practices do take place in roulette, however not all of them would do it.  As well, it's not the casino specifically but the game provider that does this and if that's true, we should never play games from such game providers because they'll only try to loot your money by making you lose every single bet. Even in the game of cards (be it blackjack, poker, andar bahar, etc.) I have witnessed that most of the times, dealer wins. So it's possible that they have something behind the scenes that we don't know about.
The problem with that is, in online casinos there are a lot of people betting on various numbers and other things like odd and even etc. So, unless you find a time when the whole casino is empty, its probably not gonna work. Also, I'm sure they don't make it that obvious if the casino is actually rigged. I'm sure they are smart enough to no rig it everytime or it would be blatantly obvious and easily caught.
They obviously don't make it so obvious, even a kid would know that he is being cheated if this kind of practice is done with them where he leaves only one number blank and only that number comes up every single time. Even if a casino cheats, they do it in such a way that their gamblers won't even realize that they are actually being cheated.

When it comes to roulette, I think cheating on it can be pretty easy since there are a lot of outcomes and no one would even doubt if the outcome has been manipulated or controlled by the management in any way possible.

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May 22, 2023, 07:45:47 PM
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I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.
Well, slot machines are still the most loved and played gambling games in the world and the reason for that is probably the possibility of winning very big amounts due to the high multipliers that they provide while in roulette, you can't get that much even if you win a bet or two, also, the graphical user interfaces and gameplay of slot machines attract a lot of users.

Slots machine are popular because of how it was designed.  It is designed to entice people and connect with the senses of the player through hearing, and sight.  If we try to observe a slot game, it has a good design and audio that is not tiring to watch and listen to.  All gambling games have the possibility to win huge amounts but slots lead them because of their design.

When it comes to roulette, I think cheating on it can be pretty easy since there are a lot of outcomes and no one would even doubt if the outcome has been manipulated or controlled by the management in any way possible.


True no one will expect that the machine used is rigged and manipulated by the operator unless they overdo their cheating and make the ball defy the law of gravity and momentum.

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May 22, 2023, 07:54:25 PM
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Scamming through roulette is definitely possible. However, can I ask you to gamble a same size bet on all 36 numbers except 0 and see if the casino manages to bring up number 0 only in the very same game? If they do, can you please repeat it and see if they do it again in the next game too? I'm not favoring any casinos here and I know that such practices do take place in roulette, however not all of them would do it.  As well, it's not the casino specifically but the game provider that does this and if that's true, we should never play games from such game providers because they'll only try to loot your money by making you lose every single bet. Even in the game of cards (be it blackjack, poker, andar bahar, etc.) I have witnessed that most of the times, dealer wins. So it's possible that they have something behind the scenes that we don't know about.
The problem with that is, in online casinos there are a lot of people betting on various numbers and other things like odd and even etc. So, unless you find a time when the whole casino is empty, its probably not gonna work. Also, I'm sure they don't make it that obvious if the casino is actually rigged. I'm sure they are smart enough to no rig it everytime or it would be blatantly obvious and easily caught.
They obviously don't make it so obvious, even a kid would know that he is being cheated if this kind of practice is done with them where he leaves only one number blank and only that number comes up every single time. Even if a casino cheats, they do it in such a way that their gamblers won't even realize that they are actually being cheated.

When it comes to roulette, I think cheating on it can be pretty easy since there are a lot of outcomes and no one would even doubt if the outcome has been manipulated or controlled by the management in any way possible.
There's no way that they would be making out too obvious for some gamblers would be able to caught up on what they've been doing secretly. Somewhat you could really be able to assume out that the possibility is there specially that we've seen out this kind of way or method of cheating which we cant even tell if this one had already been done out on some cases or simply just newly been busted up or it cant be possible
since its way too obvious?

On the time that you are playing and you've noticed out something in your very own eyes, Then what you would gonna do? Would you really tend to make up some moment on suing them out directly?
What if your accusations were wrong? For sure you would be having doubts on pushing out that kind of justice just because you do have those hunches that you've been cheated.
This is why if ever someone do make out some possible observation or have odd feeling then they would surely just keep it on their own rather than on making a scene.

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May 23, 2023, 11:48:40 AM
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I personally have been reading about the attitudes of roulette games organizers and I did not really see it as a thing to worry about because I have not had the experience with them. When I decided to try the game, I got registered on one of the roulette game and it is a live casino though so J had a little confidence in the system of being reliable, transparent and credible. I played several times and won big but I never made any withdrawal. One day the funny happened. While playing live I noticed how the staff present packed up after I had placed a bet, after taking their records, they went in while my bet was still pending I had to chat their live pm nobody responded and after a while waiting someone came in and I noticed a change in his behavior and there the game continued and I lost virtually all my bets and funds I used. Ever since that experience, I stopped roulette games and marked tat casino to not near them anymore.
Did you warn others about the platform so that no one else had to face the same thing that you did? If not, you should have, because what happened to you is shady as hell and a casino shouldn't be that way. If there is a problem in the live feed or something or any other technical problems occur, the support team should let you know and refund the money.

I wouldn't blame all the casinos for that nor the game of roulette but the platform that you were using should obviously be avoided by anyone not only for playing roulette but for any game they offer since they can do this for any game they are offering.

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May 24, 2023, 11:55:26 AM
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do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

That's an interesting take on live roulette gambling and the user seems to have really investigated the topic. I have heard about it in the past that the roulette ball and wheel can be  manipulated to give one party an advantage. The question is would you risk your whole reputation to scam a few customers? I know from some physical casinos that also run online live roulette tables and they use the exact same tables as in their physical casino. If news come out the tables are not legit than the casino could close it's doors, nobody would visit again. I don't think the risk pays of for the casino, because roulette is already a profitable game by itself. The green numbers 0 and 00 ensure that long term the casino will make money with their tables. Hopefully this was a minor incident and won't be discovered at other casinos too.
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