This guy gave a whole prototype of "how live roulette scam us"

[www.Gambler.Casino]

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

[slapper]

I personally have been reading about the attitudes of roulette games organizers and I did not really see it as a thing to worry about because I have not had the experience with them. When I decided to try the game, I got registered on one of the roulette game and it is a live casino though so J had a little confidence in the system of being reliable, transparent and credible. I played several times and won big but I never made any withdrawal. One day the funny happened. While playing live I noticed how the staff present packed up after I had placed a bet, after taking their records, they went in while my bet was still pending I had to chat their live pm nobody responded and after a while waiting someone came in and I noticed a change in his behavior and there the game continued and I lost virtually all my bets and funds I used. Ever since that experience, I stopped roulette games and marked tat casino to not near them anymore.

Did you warn others about the platform so that no one else had to face the same thing that you did? If not, you should have, because what happened to you is shady as hell and a casino shouldn't be that way. If there is a problem in the live feed or something or any other technical problems occur, the support team should let you know and refund the money.

I wouldn't blame all the casinos for that nor the game of roulette but the platform that you were using should obviously be avoided by anyone not only for playing roulette but for any game they offer since they can do this for any game they are offering.

Without a doubt, this fiasco casts a harsh light on the credibility of the online gambling community we all enjoy. Like the enigma behind the Last Supper artwork, this one has to be solved. You have to understand that the algorithms powering these online casinos - especially the live games - are a labyrinth. Something went wrong with their operation; either a technical glitch or, heaven forbid, a deliberate attempt at deception.

Choose your online gambling establishment with the care you'd take picking a lock on a safe. Verify the RNG is legitimate by looking for a golden licence. The main thing is clarity. The best ones will wear their random number generator (RNG) and licence like a badge of honour. Also, the best casinos have first-rate support staff. Their lack of noise when you play? A loud alarm goes off. You can avoid unpleasant shocks by checking their reviews and the quality of their customer service. Don't part with your cash without first doing some research. If it's worth its salt, a casino will treat its customers like royalty and answer their questions in the speed of light.

[ethereumhunter]

I personally have been reading about the attitudes of roulette games organizers and I did not really see it as a thing to worry about because I have not had the experience with them. When I decided to try the game, I got registered on one of the roulette game and it is a live casino though so J had a little confidence in the system of being reliable, transparent and credible. I played several times and won big but I never made any withdrawal. One day the funny happened. While playing live I noticed how the staff present packed up after I had placed a bet, after taking their records, they went in while my bet was still pending I had to chat their live pm nobody responded and after a while waiting someone came in and I noticed a change in his behavior and there the game continued and I lost virtually all my bets and funds I used. Ever since that experience, I stopped roulette games and marked tat casino to not near them anymore.

Did you warn others about the platform so that no one else had to face the same thing that you did? If not, you should have, because what happened to you is shady as hell and a casino shouldn't be that way. If there is a problem in the live feed or something or any other technical problems occur, the support team should let you know and refund the money.

I wouldn't blame all the casinos for that nor the game of roulette but the platform that you were using should obviously be avoided by anyone not only for playing roulette but for any game they offer since they can do this for any game they are offering.

I don't play roulette very often but so far, when I do play roulette, nothing strange has happened (or I haven't been paying attention). But even though I experienced the weirdness and knew it was weird, I guess I wouldn't take any action either because I was too lazy to argue over small money. And luckily, I've never won big at roulette either so maybe nothing weird has happened to me.

But it's true that if we notice something odd about the casino, we should warn others or at least we can make a review here and ask the opinion of other friends. I think there must be friends here who also have the same experience or have even played at the casino so we can find out what really happened.

[SamReomo]

I personally have been reading about the attitudes of roulette games organizers and I did not really see it as a thing to worry about because I have not had the experience with them. When I decided to try the game, I got registered on one of the roulette game and it is a live casino though so J had a little confidence in the system of being reliable, transparent and credible. I played several times and won big but I never made any withdrawal. One day the funny happened. While playing live I noticed how the staff present packed up after I had placed a bet, after taking their records, they went in while my bet was still pending I had to chat their live pm nobody responded and after a while waiting someone came in and I noticed a change in his behavior and there the game continued and I lost virtually all my bets and funds I used. Ever since that experience, I stopped roulette games and marked tat casino to not near them anymore.

Did you warn others about the platform so that no one else had to face the same thing that you did? If not, you should have, because what happened to you is shady as hell and a casino shouldn't be that way. If there is a problem in the live feed or something or any other technical problems occur, the support team should let you know and refund the money.

I wouldn't blame all the casinos for that nor the game of roulette but the platform that you were using should obviously be avoided by anyone not only for playing roulette but for any game they offer since they can do this for any game they are offering.

Those platforms should be avoided at any cost because I also think that if they can do that for Roulette than they can do that for any other game without any obligations. Their main intention is to scam users and such platforms will find ways to scam users with various tricks and most of them are not known to us yet.

I have done some bets on a good casino site that I won't name because that'll fall into promotion category if I do that, the casino was doing the things fairly but I believe that there are many such casinos doing shady things and the users should avoid those casinos at any cost.

I still believe that not every casino site is doing these things and the reputable ones would never let their image go down by scamming others. They are already making a lot from their casinos so they don't need to scam users to earn extra income.

[TheGreatPython]

do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

That's an interesting take on live roulette gambling and the user seems to have really investigated the topic. I have heard about it in the past that the roulette ball and wheel can be  manipulated to give one party an advantage. The question is would you risk your whole reputation to scam a few customers? I know from some physical casinos that also run online live roulette tables and they use the exact same tables as in their physical casino. If news come out the tables are not legit than the casino could close it's doors, nobody would visit again. I don't think the risk pays of for the casino, because roulette is already a profitable game by itself. The green numbers 0 and 00 ensure that long term the casino will make money with their tables. Hopefully this was a minor incident and won't be discovered at other casinos too.

Well, one can easily find a lot of such incidents and things that will make it suspicious that the casino is cheating the gamblers and not being totally honest with the bettors and the outcomes of the games, it might be true sometimes if the casino is not very reputable and pretty new but it isn't always correct especially when there is a reputable casino in question.

Besides, every single gambler playing at a table will surely sense it if the casino is cheating them with every high bet they make because it is not possible for the house to win every single bet when a gambler has a high stake.

[tusandii]

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.

Casinos have their own way of doing it that we as gamblers don't need to know, after all it's not something uncommon for casinos to cheat or manipulate games, casinos can earn big money from what they do, I'm not a roulette gambler but I believe that there is interference hands of the casino in roulette and other slot machine games.

I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.

What happens is that these are very delicate accusations, one could speculate about some casinos that could cheat, but boy is it very difficult , in my case I know that the casino that is declared to be cheating here in the forum is 1xbit,and That has been declared, there are many tests and the casino does not really take into account what many have told them so that they do not continue in these illegal activities of obtaining money in exchange for taking it from others, we also have to remember that it is valid that bcasinios always They will have the home Advantage, and the Additional advantage of each Game, since these things are what every Player must Fight for.

[Wapfika]

What happens is that these are very delicate accusations, one could speculate about some casinos that could cheat, but boy is it very difficult , in my case I know that the casino that is declared to be cheating here in the forum is 1xbit,and That has been declared, there are many tests and the casino does not really take into account what many have told them so that they do not continue in these illegal activities of obtaining money in exchange for taking it from others, we also have to remember that it is valid that bcasinios always They will have the home Advantage, and the Additional advantage of each Game, since these things are what every Player must Fight for.

To be fair on known scammer 1xbit. They are not proven cheating against players using rigged games since they are just using 3rd party games like the other casino. They are known scammer for holding users balance and all their scam accusation case doesn’t related to cheating games.

I think there’s no known case in regards with the games on all existing casino except for those house game which is verifiable via hash seed. But the rest of the games of casino nowadays is close source which means you can only prove that they are cheating if you examine physically their machine or the provider release the source code of the game.

[fullhdpixel]

What happens is that these are very delicate accusations, one could speculate about some casinos that could cheat, but boy is it very difficult , in my case I know that the casino that is declared to be cheating here in the forum is 1xbit,and That has been declared, there are many tests and the casino does not really take into account what many have told them so that they do not continue in these illegal activities of obtaining money in exchange for taking it from others, we also have to remember that it is valid that bcasinios always They will have the home Advantage, and the Additional advantage of each Game, since these things are what every Player must Fight for.

It's not difficult as long as we can provide a solid proof. A casino can cheat through their games but we can always verify the results. I think almost casino has this feature now. We can contact their customer support first before posting a thread here but we must take a screenshot because they can delete the conversation or block your account if they are guilty.

There are so many casinos now and there are so many of them are scam but here in the forum 1xbit is the biggest and the most popular. It's only unfortunate to see that 1xbit still continues their operation so there are still people outside the forum who can get victimized but it's also their fault for not doing their research.

[Hamphser]

What happens is that these are very delicate accusations, one could speculate about some casinos that could cheat, but boy is it very difficult , in my case I know that the casino that is declared to be cheating here in the forum is 1xbit,and That has been declared, there are many tests and the casino does not really take into account what many have told them so that they do not continue in these illegal activities of obtaining money in exchange for taking it from others, we also have to remember that it is valid that bcasinios always They will have the home Advantage, and the Additional advantage of each Game, since these things are what every Player must Fight for.

To be fair on known scammer 1xbit. They are not proven cheating against players using rigged games since they are just using 3rd party games like the other casino. They are known scammer for holding users balance and all their scam accusation case doesn’t related to cheating games.

I think there’s no known case in regards with the games on all existing casino except for those house game which is verifiable via hash seed. But the rest of the games of casino nowadays is close source which means you can only prove that they are cheating if you examine physically their machine or the provider release the source code of the game.

There's no way on knowing that and most of platforms nowadays are really just that including those providers specially with slot games on which same as you mentioned that there's no way on verifying those bets
since it would be a closed source. There's no way for an individual to point some fingers that they were really that rigged or not fair without having those evidence which is really a normal approach.
This is why there's nothing we can do but to embrace out on what are the outcomes.

In regarding about 1xbit then this is a platform on which they do held up their users funds and not on the games itself which it do makes them shit. About those roulette possible
rigging up then there's no way on proving it out when you are inside of a casino on which there's no way for us to point out fingers even if we do feel out there's something wrong.

[wxa7115]

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

[so98nn]

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

Though I also started believing this could be scam but just because we saw glitch from one game play we can’t just blame it. The problem with the strategy is really off the record and unproven method so far. The electromagnetism and shit is just technical words they are using due to the fact that they want people to see this is literal serious case. We would never know how it works as long as we do not enter into that system by all ourselves.

Apart from this, even if they are pre-recorded the odds of choosing correct numbers by the computer behind it are too tiny. Casino could end up losing a lot of money. The math doesn’t add up here.

[CarnagexD]

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

It's very easy to assume that casinos are cheating on you when you can't experience any wins. Probabilities should be taken on every games that you have played. Maybe at that time, you were on a losing streak. Then when it is time for you to win, you doubted it and not you did not bet. Then you make yourself believe that the house is cheating on you. It is actually you who messed up the positive outcome over a series of trades. That if you just continue betting, you will win.
Some call it luck. But you create your own luck when you stay on a system and let the probabilities play out.

[Kemarit]

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

It's very easy to assume that casinos are cheating on you when you can't experience any wins. Probabilities should be taken on every games that you have played. Maybe at that time, you were on a losing streak. Then when it is time for you to win, you doubted it and not you did not bet. Then you make yourself believe that the house is cheating on you. It is actually you who messed up the positive outcome over a series of trades. That if you just continue betting, you will win.
Some call it luck. But you create your own luck when you stay on a system and let the probabilities play out.

Well I don't think that casino will start to cheat though, I mean they have the house edge already and in this case in baccarat, there are 36 numbers to choose if there is a single 0 and the odds increases if it is double 00.

And with that, it added the odds on their side if they will do this form of cheating, that's why it is not recommended to play this game although I will admit that I have been playing roulette more often, and I immediately get out once I have won some. But if I will do the month, then I will say that I'm on the losing side as the rest of the gamblers. I just don't think that the casinos is cheating, it's just maybe I was really unlucky that game.

[Desmong]

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

[Newlifebtc]

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

there is no casino platform that is hundred percent sincere because all these platforms are casino have two or three ways they manipulate their things in order to ensure that they are asked advantages side of their customers casino platforms does not give you a hundred percent assurance of not binge eating their customers because without cheating of their customer they won't be able to make it their own money so that is the area that I found casino platforms

[uneng]

Well I don't think that casino will start to cheat though, I mean they have the house edge already and in this case in baccarat, there are 36 numbers to choose if there is a single 0 and the odds increases if it is double 00.

And with that, it added the odds on their side if they will do this form of cheating, that's why it is not recommended to play this game although I will admit that I have been playing roulette more often, and I immediately get out once I have won some. But if I will do the month, then I will say that I'm on the losing side as the rest of the gamblers. I just don't think that the casinos is cheating, it's just maybe I was really unlucky that game.

True. Casinos already have the house edge advantage which favours them on long term in a legit way every gamblers are aware about, so why would they still cheat and hurt their reputation and guaranteed income? It doesn't make sense for me... At least regards virtual casinos.

The physical ones I'm not so sure about the concern over their reputation, though, because the main public is composed by elder people who aren't very attentive regards potential manipulation which might be happening on the machines, besides the fact it's also harder to examine and analyze the fairness and legitimacy of games' results than in online casinos where the seed of each bet is public and widely accessed by anyone.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.

I think that many are interested in seeing if it can be manipulated, but it is not something viable, we have something in mind, if we pay attention to roulette, we see that everything is more difficult when betting on a number, because it is a lot the possibility that another one comes out, zero, 00, are possible numbers to which you can have access so that you can win, but I think that we as players can take into consideration that playing with the colors increases the chances of winning , I have seen Things like that, of course if you bet on numbers or others, well , at some point you don't have to win, I see that roulette Wheels are good Options for diversification.

[maydna]

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

there is no casino platform that is hundred percent sincere because all these platforms are casino have two or three ways they manipulate their things in order to ensure that they are asked advantages side of their customers casino platforms does not give you a hundred percent assurance of not binge eating their customers because without cheating of their customer they won't be able to make it their own money so that is the area that I found casino platforms

That's business. We must know how to choose the right casino, not take risks by playing at suspicious casinos, and have often deceived the players. By searching for a list of casinos from this forum, we can avoid these fraudulent casinos and play gambling safely and comfortably. And we should not use big money in gambling because there is a risk of losing money in gambling. And we also have to be able to control ourselves and not be easily tempted by offers given by casinos, especially new casinos that we don't know about.

[wiss19]

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

there is no casino platform that is hundred percent sincere because all these platforms are casino have two or three ways they manipulate their things in order to ensure that they are asked advantages side of their customers casino platforms does not give you a hundred percent assurance of not binge eating their customers because without cheating of their customer they won't be able to make it their own money so that is the area that I found casino platforms

That's not entirely correct and I don't agree with that. Not all gambling platforms or casinos cheat their players so that they can get more revenue through the games being played by gamblers. Most reputable casinos, such as Stake, don't really need to cheat the gamblers so that they can earn more because they already earn enough revenue from the platform that they don't need to do it.

Only the new and untrustworthy platforms will think of such negative ways of increasing their earnings from players because they understand that they don't have a user base big enough to earn them a lot of money so they use such methods.