This guy gave a whole prototype of "how live roulette scam us"

[Betwrong]

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When I play roulette, there are no patterns, I have played a lot using patterns, both colors, even or odd numbers, and it is difficult for them to follow an order, because when one is completely sure that what is predicted will come out , it does not come out This is normal, so there are many roulette strategies , you have to use them all to see what Works at a certain Time.

This is very important for any player to see no patterns when playing roulette. Because there can be no patterns, right? All "patterns" that we see playing any game purely based on luck is just a product of our imagination. They are unlucky people those who invented a strategy for roulette and accidentally it worked couple of times. The poor guys think their strategy actually works, and then they lose everything, while betting in hopes that it will work again.

[buwaytress]

I see the discussion has somewhat swerved from OP's original post. My only comment on that is, proof or you're talking shit, and casino's don't need to cheat as house edge is already in their favour, and gambler fallacy plus other common behaviours actually aid the house edge, the only thing they're exposed to is variance, so they already have systems in place to prevent overexposure.

It's bad business to cheat, and other casinos would love to expose you, so if the guy's comment has any value, my question is why he hasn't made a lot of money exposing it.

That said, the best bet is to know who audits the casino's RNG. And then choose to trust that audit's methods.

[paxmao]

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When I play roulette, there are no patterns, I have played a lot using patterns, both colors, even or odd numbers, and it is difficult for them to follow an order, because when one is completely sure that what is predicted will come out , it does not come out This is normal, so there are many roulette strategies , you have to use them all to see what Works at a certain Time.

This is very important for any player to see no patterns when playing roulette. Because there can be no patterns, right? All "patterns" that we see playing any game purely based on luck is just a product of our imagination. They are unlucky people those who invented a strategy for roulette and accidentally it worked couple of times. The poor guys think their strategy actually works, and then they lose everything, while betting in hopes that it will work again.

perhaps the first problem is why someone is complaining about a roulette. I mean, even if it works ethically as intended, it is still a bad idea that is surely going to make you loose, and that is with a proper algo, proper ranomness, etc... It does not take much to rig and it does not either take much more to think that you have been scammed and therefore there is plenty of argument for the wrong reasons.

[abel1337]

I see the discussion has somewhat swerved from OP's original post. My only comment on that is, proof or you're talking shit, and casino's don't need to cheat as house edge is already in their favour, and gambler fallacy plus other common behaviours actually aid the house edge, the only thing they're exposed to is variance, so they already have systems in place to prevent overexposure.

It's bad business to cheat, and other casinos would love to expose you, so if the guy's comment has any value, my question is why he hasn't made a lot of money exposing it.

That said, the best bet is to know who audits the casino's RNG. And then choose to trust that audit's methods.

You got a point. Reputable and big casinos don't have to cheat on roulette knowing that they will win at the end of day. Even on real roulette, I don't think that casino's will cheat because they can be exposed easily and it can make their casino go bankrupt rapidly if they caught red handed. Though not sll casino is fair to their players especially those who are on the verge of bankrupcy and the one who are just starting. To be safe, it would be better for us to just stick on reputable casinos whether it's physical or online casino.

[tusandii]

perhaps the first problem is why someone is complaining about a roulette. I mean, even if it works ethically as intended, it is still a bad idea that is surely going to make you loose, and that is with a proper algo, proper ranomness, etc... It does not take much to rig and it does not either take much more to think that you have been scammed and therefore there is plenty of argument for the wrong reasons.

Lately I've been studying the various defeats of several games that I've played including Roulette.
If you think carefully about the losses that you get, it doesn't mean that the provider is cheating or deceiving gamblers, but indeed because in all casino games it's difficult to win regularly and all games have been designed in such a way that gamblers not get wins in every game session.
Basically gambling only gives gamblers the opportunity to lose some money so if we decide to gamble, we must be prepared for the consequences of losing the amount we bet.

But this is just an assumption from experience that I have learned and of course the opinion of every gambler will be different, not all of them will have the same thoughts as me.

[ethereumhunter]

I see the discussion has somewhat swerved from OP's original post. My only comment on that is, proof or you're talking shit, and casino's don't need to cheat as house edge is already in their favour, and gambler fallacy plus other common behaviours actually aid the house edge, the only thing they're exposed to is variance, so they already have systems in place to prevent overexposure.

It's bad business to cheat, and other casinos would love to expose you, so if the guy's comment has any value, my question is why he hasn't made a lot of money exposing it.

That said, the best bet is to know who audits the casino's RNG. And then choose to trust that audit's methods.

You got a point. Reputable and big casinos don't have to cheat on roulette knowing that they will win at the end of day. Even on real roulette, I don't think that casino's will cheat because they can be exposed easily and it can make their casino go bankrupt rapidly if they caught red handed. Though not sll casino is fair to their players especially those who are on the verge of bankrupcy and the one who are just starting. To be safe, it would be better for us to just stick on reputable casinos whether it's physical or online casino.

The casino doesn't need to deceive us because as we know that the casino will win in the end even though some gamblers can win. But more gamblers will lose and the money will go to the casinos, which means the casinos will win.

But casinos can cheat like that because we don't know if it's right or wrong. We can only see the video but it's hard for us to check directly because the casino will ask, do we want to play or do we want to check the system?

[dezoel]

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When I play roulette, there are no patterns, I have played a lot using patterns, both colors, even or odd numbers, and it is difficult for them to follow an order, because when one is completely sure that what is predicted will come out , it does not come out This is normal, so there are many roulette strategies , you have to use them all to see what Works at a certain Time.

This is very important for any player to see no patterns when playing roulette. Because there can be no patterns, right? All "patterns" that we see playing any game purely based on luck is just a product of our imagination. They are unlucky people those who invented a strategy for roulette and accidentally it worked couple of times. The poor guys think their strategy actually works, and then they lose everything, while betting in hopes that it will work again.

Those who created these games were obviously not idiots they would design games that would work based on patterns so that gamblers can identify those patterns and then win significantly high amounts of money using those patterns. Of course, there are no patterns whether it's about roulette or any other gambling game, it's just our mind that tells us that there is a pattern and you should act accordingly but in reality, there is nothing like that.

I know that there are some people who think they are too smart for the casinos to handle so they keep looking for patterns and other stuff that they can use to win more bets, and when a few of their bets actually work, they become overconfident and eventually lose everything only because of their patterns.

[danadc]

The casino doesn't need to deceive us because as we know that the casino will win in the end even though some gamblers can win. But more gamblers will lose and the money will go to the casinos, which means the casinos will win.

But casinos can cheat like that because we don't know if it's right or wrong. We can only see the video but it's hard for us to check directly because the casino will ask, do we want to play or do we want to check the system?

I know this, I have never seen if a person or expert player has exposed to a casino if they have cheated or not and the way in which they unmasked it, because in something if there is absolutely reason, how to make a casino recognize that they did trap? Otherwise yes, the casinos can expose when a player cheats, but when a casino? as? They are the ones with the records, videos, seeds, everything, so what way is there to prove that someone did not cheat ? And how many times have we been Victims of a Casino if such a thing Exists ? Those are the things I want to see here.

[ethereumhunter]

I know this, I have never seen if a person or expert player has exposed to a casino if they have cheated or not and the way in which they unmasked it, because in something if there is absolutely reason, how to make a casino recognize that they did trap? Otherwise yes, the casinos can expose when a player cheats, but when a casino? as? They are the ones with the records, videos, seeds, everything, so what way is there to prove that someone did not cheat ? And how many times have we been Victims of a Casino if such a thing Exists ? Those are the things I want to see here.

We will never if the casino cheats on us or other players. But some people deliberately find out if the casino is cheating, especially people who often experience losing from casinos so they want to make sure everything is. And a trusted casino will not cheat its members because it involves the casino's reputation so it can reduce its credibility, it will decrease and eventually, its users will abandon it. Therefore, a trusted casino will always maintain its reputation; if there are problems or complaints from its members, the casino will immediately solve them.

[SirLancelot]

I see the discussion has somewhat swerved from OP's original post. My only comment on that is, proof or you're talking shit, and casino's don't need to cheat as house edge is already in their favour, and gambler fallacy plus other common behaviours actually aid the house edge, the only thing they're exposed to is variance, so they already have systems in place to prevent overexposure.

It's bad business to cheat, and other casinos would love to expose you, so if the guy's comment has any value, my question is why he hasn't made a lot of money exposing it.

That said, the best bet is to know who audits the casino's RNG. And then choose to trust that audit's methods.

You got a point. Reputable and big casinos don't have to cheat on roulette knowing that they will win at the end of day. Even on real roulette, I don't think that casino's will cheat because they can be exposed easily and it can make their casino go bankrupt rapidly if they caught red handed. Though not sll casino is fair to their players especially those who are on the verge of bankrupcy and the one who are just starting. To be safe, it would be better for us to just stick on reputable casinos whether it's physical or online casino.

If we talk about getting caught, I don't think that an old casino with an experienced team and staff will get caught for cheating the gamblers because they will probably have enough experience about everything within the casino and they can easily manage to do things that no one would ever notice since there is already so much noise and so many people that no one would notice every small detail about the game or what is happening in or around the game.

I believe newer and bankrupted casinos can be more vulnerable to this, if they try and cheat their gamblers, knowing there are fewer players and no one would notice but they will eventually get nervous and give it away because the team wouldn't be as experienced as the other restaurants around.

[buwaytress]

If we talk about getting caught, I don't think that an old casino with an experienced team and staff will get caught for cheating the gamblers because they will probably have enough experience about everything within the casino and they can easily manage to do things that no one would ever notice since there is already so much noise and so many people that no one would notice every small detail about the game or what is happening in or around the game.

I believe newer and bankrupted casinos can be more vulnerable to this, if they try and cheat their gamblers, knowing there are fewer players and no one would notice but they will eventually get nervous and give it away because the team wouldn't be as experienced as the other restaurants around.

You're putting the cart before the horse. An old casino with an experienced team etc wouldn't need to cheat in the first place.

As explained above, you've already got house edge. And in offline casinos, it's way, way higher than what we're used to with crypto PF games (man I really am spoilt honestly by dice especially).

You're thinking small. And new/bankrupted casinos yeah, would have to think small to cheat.

[Betwrong]

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Those who created these games were obviously not idiots they would design games that would work based on patterns so that gamblers can identify those patterns and then win significantly high amounts of money using those patterns. Of course, there are no patterns whether it's about roulette or any other gambling game, it's just our mind that tells us that there is a pattern and you should act accordingly but in reality, there is nothing like that.

I know that there are some people who think they are too smart for the casinos to handle so they keep looking for patterns and other stuff that they can use to win more bets, and when a few of their bets actually work, they become overconfident and eventually lose everything only because of their patterns.

I remember when I only started to play dice online, I used to "see" those patterns too. For example, I "noticed" that if you hit something above 100, something below 1.00 will follow soon. Not like right away, but within 10 bets for sure. So, I started using that "knowledge", and it "worked" most of the time at first. Then, of course, it didn't work one day and I lost all my balance during that day. The good part was that I didn't deposit more after losing it, and that my balance was only around $20. It was still painful, but it was bearable. Don't experiment with your strategies, guys, having big balances. Try them out, if it makes you entertained, but don't risk big money with that.

Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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When I play roulette, there are no patterns, I have played a lot using patterns, both colors, even or odd numbers, and it is difficult for them to follow an order, because when one is completely sure that what is predicted will come out , it does not come out This is normal, so there are many roulette strategies , you have to use them all to see what Works at a certain Time.

This is very important for any player to see no patterns when playing roulette. Because there can be no patterns, right? All "patterns" that we see playing any game purely based on luck is just a product of our imagination. They are unlucky people those who invented a strategy for roulette and accidentally it worked couple of times. The poor guys think their strategy actually works, and then they lose everything, while betting in hopes that it will work again.

perhaps the first problem is why someone is complaining about a roulette. I mean, even if it works ethically as intended, it is still a bad idea that is surely going to make you loose, and that is with a proper algo, proper ranomness, etc... It does not take much to rig and it does not either take much more to think that you have been scammed and therefore there is plenty of argument for the wrong reasons.

When I was in the U I always went with a friend who was also very good at math and logic, we played roulette a lot, and sometimes each one of us learned patterns and we bet on what would come out, sometimes we won, other times we didn't, but we realized that the patterns didn't work and that was enough to keep betting with even or odd numbers and colors, what we got was sometimes zero, which was a variable we couldn't control, most of the time we went around 5-6 in the afternoon, because at that time many people came to play and it was ideal to be at roulette, we knew that we had more chances of winning when they were full at roulette.

Of course, we had already established a time to play because it was more feasible to win, at that time we thought it was easier to win when there were many people playing roulette, I remember very well that at 6pm was when many gamblers arrived, and there were even women who were somewhat mature, very beautiful with a lot of money to bet, sometimes I cannot deny that we made the same bets as others, because we felt that they could be lucky , almost all of the roulette was bet, it was impossible for someone I didn't win there, that's why we liked it , however I would like that in a casino I could have that option, where roulette was and that several people could bet at the same time and live, could it be that the chances of winning for us as players increase?

[stomachgrowls]

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Those who created these games were obviously not idiots they would design games that would work based on patterns so that gamblers can identify those patterns and then win significantly high amounts of money using those patterns. Of course, there are no patterns whether it's about roulette or any other gambling game, it's just our mind that tells us that there is a pattern and you should act accordingly but in reality, there is nothing like that.

I know that there are some people who think they are too smart for the casinos to handle so they keep looking for patterns and other stuff that they can use to win more bets, and when a few of their bets actually work, they become overconfident and eventually lose everything only because of their patterns.

I remember when I only started to play dice online, I used to "see" those patterns too. For example, I "noticed" that if you hit something above 100, something below 1.00 will follow soon. Not like right away, but within 10 bets for sure. So, I started using that "knowledge", and it "worked" most of the time at first. Then, of course, it didn't work one day and I lost all my balance during that day. The good part was that I didn't deposit more after losing it, and that my balance was only around $20. It was still painful, but it was bearable. Don't experiment with your strategies, guys, having big balances. Try them out, if it makes you entertained, but don't risk big money with that.

Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

Not really that ideal on making yourself that too mindful about making up those patterns or on whatever things you had noticed out because everything is really that randomly generated with those codes. You might be

able to have those mathematical approach and having those observations but it wont really be giving out assurance that it would really be affecting out those results effectively on next rolls.
This is why it would be that good if you do just test out on something not really that risking your huge money or capital or bankroll on doing gambling if you are really that eager on testing a certain strategy.
Luck based would be always luck based, you might be able to make out some patterns but those wont really be that precise for you to rely and push through.

Now that these videos had been surfacing out but doesnt mean that there would casinos been caught on doing this cheating or set up because its impossible that it wont really be able to
be noticed by someone on this case.

[tusandii]

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Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

That's right, because if we pay attention to how Roulette works, it is random, so it's not easy to guess which number will be where the ball stops spinning.
Maybe memorizing numbers that rarely come out can be the best way to get a win. It's just that when you're not lucky, those numbers also don't guarantee you can come out as a winner.

If playing Roulette I now prefers to bet on color because there are only two choices between black and red.

[CarnagexD]

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Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

That's right, because if we pay attention to how Roulette works, it is random, so it's not easy to guess which number will be where the ball stops spinning.
Maybe memorizing numbers that rarely come out can be the best way to get a win. It's just that when you're not lucky, those numbers also don't guarantee you can come out as a winner.

If playing Roulette I now prefers to bet on color because there are only two choices between black and red.

Just right on point. I mean every gambling opportunity is unique that the outcome of the last bet won't affect the next unless there's anomaly is happening behind. Betting in color instead of numbers would be a smart move. That just simply putting higher probability becasue you have 50-50 of chance winning, but i believe some online casinos don't have that kind of offer (on my own experience).

So unless you're lucky every time you will win, you have to had a risk management and a worthy risk reward to compensate for the losses all through out the series of your bets.

[noormcs5]

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Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

That's right, because if we pay attention to how Roulette works, it is random, so it's not easy to guess which number will be where the ball stops spinning.
Maybe memorizing numbers that rarely come out can be the best way to get a win. It's just that when you're not lucky, those numbers also don't guarantee you can come out as a winner.

If playing Roulette I now prefers to bet on color because there are only two choices between black and red.

Memorizing numbers in Roulette does not help either because I don't think that Roulette produces the numbers based on any sequence. They are just random numbers and there is no pattern behind them. Hence even if you keep track of the last few hits, it's impossible to guess the future number at the Roulette.

Also, my take on Roulette dice and other gambling games is that these are luck-based games only and even if the good gambling sites do not scam us, it's still difficult to beat the house. In case they are scamming in the backend, it then becomes impossible to win.

[Slow death]

a few days ago I saw a guy on youtube complaining that he wasn't hitting the roulette wheel and that he needed to create some kind of discipline or bankroll management to see if he was going to be successful, I confess that I stopped watching what I intended to watch and was paying attention to what he was talking because honestly I didn't see any sense in anything he was saying, because in my opinion games like roulette are games that simply depend on luck, no matter what people do at the end of the day people are going to lose money at roulette

but even so, I saw the guy talking about math, strategy, bankroll management, I just kept thinking: how is it possible that this guy doesn't realize that he won't win constantly and that this game should only be seen as fun, nothing more. so after I finished the video, I understood that either he was doing it to get views or he really believes what he's talking about and he's addicted to gambling, probably both options is what's going on with him, and no doubt that he It's not unique, many people think that they can create strategies in gambling that depend on luck.

[danadc]

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Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

That's right, because if we pay attention to how Roulette works, it is random, so it's not easy to guess which number will be where the ball stops spinning.
Maybe memorizing numbers that rarely come out can be the best way to get a win. It's just that when you're not lucky, those numbers also don't guarantee you can come out as a winner.

If playing Roulette I now prefers to bet on color because there are only two choices between black and red.

Memorizing numbers in Roulette does not help either because I don't think that Roulette produces the numbers based on any sequence. They are just random numbers and there is no pattern behind them. Hence even if you keep track of the last few hits, it's impossible to guess the future number at the Roulette.

Also, my take on Roulette dice and other gambling games is that these are luck-based games only and even if the good gambling sites do not scam us, it's still difficult to beat the house. In case they are scamming in the backend, it then becomes impossible to win.

When I play roulette, I don't even realize the numbers that fall, my strategies are many, colors are the strategy that I see as the safest, of course I always see that there is a lot of advantage for the house, because if the other color falls or if The 0 starts because my bet is lost , so this will always be and will always be a risk for everything, when I play roulette I rarely bet on the numbers, because there are many, and it is difficult to hit one, and when for good luck I give luck to someone because I don't have the profit I want, so for me it's not as striking as I thought, that's why things in roulette seem more attractive that way Because of the Colors , it's safer for me.

[Webetcoins]

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Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

That's right, because if we pay attention to how Roulette works, it is random, so it's not easy to guess which number will be where the ball stops spinning.
Maybe memorizing numbers that rarely come out can be the best way to get a win. It's just that when you're not lucky, those numbers also don't guarantee you can come out as a winner.

If playing Roulette I now prefers to bet on color because there are only two choices between black and red.

I've seen a lot of people doing the same thing, they either play on colors or columns because there aren't a lot of choices among them, and you have more chances of winning this way, though whether you will win or lose totally depends on your luck and not on the chances or percentages or anything, but placing bets on numbers in a roulette table is just like wasting your money, it is just better if you simply play in a slot machine and you might win something.

And if a casino, as said by the OP, is cheating over the roulette table, there is absolutely no chance for a gambler to win anything from it, especially if someone is betting high very high amounts because the management will never let the numbers come that the high rollers are betting on.