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In my opinion, it all depends on each person. because people's pleasures are different in nature, for example someone who is 60 years old and he does not have a family or only lives alone, in my opinion, a person like this will prefer to continue working because of his situation who does not have a family and the friends who are in his workplace are his family so maybe I he will continue to work even though he is 60 years old.
And there are those who choose to retire at the age of 60, because they have a family and realize that their old age must be spent with their family because their pleasure is in their family, and their family is the most valuable treasure in life.
So everything has its own portion.
The percentage of people who work because they want to is very small, but most people work because of needs that must be met, and it is true, as you said, that each person has a different portion.
However, in my opinion, the retirement age cannot be set by someone else, even if we are workers in someone else's company, it all comes down to ourselves, even though every job, whether in the government or private sector, has its own age limit rules.
But what I mean is that our desire to work can be regulated by ourselves. For example, for those who want to retire early from work and enjoy life, they must prepare carefully before deciding on this, prepare savings or other things that can meet their needs in When he doesn't work later, it's easy in my opinion because we can do whatever we want as long as we are able to prepare in advance.

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December 24, 2023, 02:26:28 PM
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I agreed that government should not forcefully retain it employees after attaining the mandatory retirement age or increase retirement age, it should be optional though majority of them would opt to leave however their wealth of experience would still be needed especially workers or expertise in health sector, technology, etc it might be very difficult for government to replace some of these key sector of the government replacing them with newly recruited employees isn't a bad idea though I prefer those employees who are about to retire retrain the newly recruited employees thereafter release them to retire because their productivity would wane as they aged in the job.
In my opinion, if the government increases the retirement age, of course there is a clear reason to retain them, as you said, with the experience and expertise they have, it is certainly natural to retain them, but in my opinion, if the government continues to retain them for a few more years, of course the generation that wants to develop will less interested in developing themselves to be able to replace those who have reached their retirement age.
I really agree with what you said, it is better to give young people the opportunity to have skills like theirs and give pensions to those who have reached retirement age to enjoy time with their families while they still have time.

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December 24, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
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Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.
As far as I know, each country has different laws that apply to the retirement age for working in the government, as I have read and seen in several countries.
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Countries that set the retirement period for their citizens at age 67 are Denmark, Greece, Iceland and Italy. Meanwhile, the UK sets the retirement age for its citizens at 66, Germany and Switzerland at 65, and Russia at 62. Overall, the average retirement age in European countries is 65.

The retirement age for workers in the United States and Australia is 66, Japan is 64, Canada and Hong Kong are 65, Indonesia is 58-65 and China, India, Malaysia and Vietnam are 60.

In this case, if we talk about the economy, of course the impact on pensions aged 60-64 will definitely be on you, especially benefits being cut, so that pensioners have to look for other additions to cover their economic needs, In this case, I don't agree that those who work in government have a retirement age of 60-64. I agree that if the retirement age is 68-70, maybe this action is more mature to consider.

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December 24, 2023, 07:28:31 PM
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In my opinion, it all depends on each person. because people's pleasures are different in nature, for example someone who is 60 years old and he does not have a family or only lives alone, in my opinion, a person like this will prefer to continue working because of his situation who does not have a family and the friends who are in his workplace are his family so maybe I he will continue to work even though he is 60 years old.
And there are those who choose to retire at the age of 60, because they have a family and realize that their old age must be spent with their family because their pleasure is in their family, and their family is the most valuable treasure in life.
So everything has its own portion.
The percentage of people who work because they want to is very small, but most people work because of needs that must be met, and it is true, as you said, that each person has a different portion.
However, in my opinion, the retirement age cannot be set by someone else, even if we are workers in someone else's company, it all comes down to ourselves, even though every job, whether in the government or private sector, has its own age limit rules.
But what I mean is that our desire to work can be regulated by ourselves. For example, for those who want to retire early from work and enjoy life, they must prepare carefully before deciding on this, prepare savings or other things that can meet their needs in When he doesn't work later, it's easy in my opinion because we can do whatever we want as long as we are able to prepare in advance.

That makes sense, many of them work to meet their needs, sometimes there are also those who don't like their work but they still work and this may be due to factors related to their economic needs which must be met every day. However, in my opinion, it feels unethical if they have reached old age but are still working, they should just rest and spend time with their own family, because I am a person who always feels sorry, so if I were a boss and had an old employee, I would tell him to to just rest at home and spend a lot of time with their own family.

because in my opinion old age is no longer for working, but for enjoying periods of peace, life in old age should be enjoyed with things that make them happy, because there are people who don't like their work but still force themselves to work because of economic factors . but it is also up to them themselves to determine everything, as long as they think it is good then I will support it.

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December 24, 2023, 08:18:18 PM
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That makes sense, many of them work to meet their needs, sometimes there are also those who don't like their work but they still work and this may be due to factors related to their economic needs which must be met every day. However, in my opinion, it feels unethical if they have reached old age but are still working, they should just rest and spend time with their own family, because I am a person who always feels sorry, so if I were a boss and had an old employee, I would tell him to to just rest at home and spend a lot of time with their own family.

If you feel sorry for the person, then dismissal or layoff is the wrong decision. Because if you stop it, that person will lose their livelihood and income, so that it will be very difficult for that person to fulfill their needs. Indeed, if we are talking about a desire, a person really wants themselves to be able to retire as soon as possible, but because conditions make it impossible, they choose to continue working because there are demands and needs that they fulfill. And if only someone had enough savings, I'm sure that person would have decided long ago to retire. If you are kind enough, then don't fire the person, but give him a lighter job and if you are determined to fire him, then give him an allowance so that at least he has enough money to survive.


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because in my opinion old age is no longer for working, but for enjoying periods of peace, life in old age should be enjoyed with things that make them happy, because there are people who don't like their work but still force themselves to work because of economic factors . but it is also up to them themselves to determine everything, as long as they think it is good then I will support it.

If you feel sorry for the person, then dismissal or layoff is the wrong decision. Because if you stop it, that person will lose their livelihood and income, so that it will be very difficult for that person to fulfill their needs. Indeed, if we are talking about a desire, a person really wants themselves to be able to retire as soon as possible, but because conditions make it impossible, they choose to continue working because there are demands and needs that they fulfill. And if only someone had enough savings, I'm sure that person would have decided long ago to retire. If you are kind enough, then don't fire the person, but give him a lighter job and if you are determined to fire him, then give him an allowance so that at least he has enough money to survive.

Indeed, old age is a time to enjoy peace and happiness with family. but when you experience serious economic and financial problems, let alone being able to live happily, being able to live in peace becomes something that is difficult to obtain.
And starting from this, it is important for us to be able to prepare everything later, lest we also suffer the same fate as people feel, where we continue to work in our old age.

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December 26, 2023, 11:47:42 AM
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In my opinion, it all depends on each person. because people's pleasures are different in nature, for example someone who is 60 years old and he does not have a family or only lives alone, in my opinion, a person like this will prefer to continue working because of his situation who does not have a family and the friends who are in his workplace are his family so maybe I he will continue to work even though he is 60 years old.
And there are those who choose to retire at the age of 60, because they have a family and realize that their old age must be spent with their family because their pleasure is in their family, and their family is the most valuable treasure in life.
So everything has its own portion.
The percentage of people who work because they want to is very small, but most people work because of needs that must be met, and it is true, as you said, that each person has a different portion.
However, in my opinion, the retirement age cannot be set by someone else, even if we are workers in someone else's company, it all comes down to ourselves, even though every job, whether in the government or private sector, has its own age limit rules.
But what I mean is that our desire to work can be regulated by ourselves. For example, for those who want to retire early from work and enjoy life, they must prepare carefully before deciding on this, prepare savings or other things that can meet their needs in When he doesn't work later, it's easy in my opinion because we can do whatever we want as long as we are able to prepare in advance.
You're right about retirement age autonomy. We must acknowledge this power! The idea that employer retirement policies control us is outdated. We must take control. First, financial literacy important. Traditional savings accounts are obsolete. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are financial game-changers, not trends. By investing in Bitcoin, we may multiply our money. This isn't just about preparing for retirement; it's about revolutionizing it.

We must transition from working because we have to to working because we want to. Here comes financial independence and early retirement (FIRE). It's about aggressive savings, clever investments (hello, Bitcoin), and prudent spending. The aim? To be wealthy enough to live off passive income without working until retirement. Though ambitious, it's achievable. Just start seeing Bitcoin as a key player in your financial decisions.

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December 26, 2023, 05:30:28 PM
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Indeed, old age is a time to enjoy peace and happiness with family. but when you experience serious economic and financial problems, let alone being able to live happily, being able to live in peace becomes something that is difficult to obtain.
And starting from this, it is important for us to be able to prepare everything later, lest we also suffer the same fate as people feel, where we continue to work in our old age.

I agree with this, old age should be enjoyed well, because old age in my opinion should spend a lot of time with family, a person who has a good mindset I think they will work hard at a young age because they know old age is no longer a time to work, with them working hard at a young age it will produce in the future and when in old age they only have to enjoy it, But on the other hand, where there are families that are economically disadvantaged, it is possible that old people still work because they have to support their families by fulfilling their basic needs, because there are families that are not able to generate stable finances, or the absence of complete family members makes one old person still have to work even though they are old.
And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.

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December 27, 2023, 01:57:05 AM
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And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.

And then after that there are stupid people asking, why are you tired of working hard and fighting tooth and nail for old age, even though God doesn't necessarily give us a long life? Why collect money to save and invest here and there just because you think that in a few years you will decide to retire and enjoy this time with your family. Who knows, maybe before you retire, you might die? And in the end you won't be able to enjoy the results of your hard work that you have accumulated, except for your funeral costs. And instead of doing all that, it's better to just use the money to have fun and enjoy your youth.

That's a series of stupid questions and statements that I often encounter. They really can't think long, and think like this, that it's better for me to spend my youth full of effort and hard work without having to forget to enjoy the process, and also stay focused on building a better future. because who knows, God will give us a long life. And if you have to die young, everything will not be in vain, because wealth and objects can be passed on to the family. And if in fact we are given a long life, then we can enjoy everything together with our family.

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December 27, 2023, 09:20:18 AM
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And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.

And then after that there are stupid people asking, why are you tired of working hard and fighting tooth and nail for old age, even though God doesn't necessarily give us a long life? Why collect money to save and invest here and there just because you think that in a few years you will decide to retire and enjoy this time with your family. Who knows, maybe before you retire, you might die? And in the end you won't be able to enjoy the results of your hard work that you have accumulated, except for your funeral costs. And instead of doing all that, it's better to just use the money to have fun and enjoy your youth.

That's a series of stupid questions and statements that I often encounter. They really can't think long, and think like this, that it's better for me to spend my youth full of effort and hard work without having to forget to enjoy the process, and also stay focused on building a better future. because who knows, God will give us a long life. And if you have to die young, everything will not be in vain, because wealth and objects can be passed on to the family. And if in fact we are given a long life, then we can enjoy everything together with our family.

Well, this is interesting, basically people's thoughts are different, and as you said, I think your comment reflects someone who doesn't think about their future where they prefer to spend their money to enjoy their youth. That's not completely wrong, because it is everyone's right, especially if they do that but also don't forget to save, that's better. and in my opinion, people like this tend to have short-sighted thinking, because all they do is spend their money to have fun in their youth and not have any benefit in their old age.
and you said about death, I say once again everyone's thoughts are different, why do I think more about youth, because when I worked hard at a young age and wanted to live to enjoy old age by relaxing and enjoying the results of my hard work and if indeed I died, is it all over? I don't think so, because when I have enough results to enjoy and I die, the results that I should have enjoyed can be enjoyed by the rest of my family, maybe my sister, wife, or other relatives, also if they have I think they have a good mindset and will continue all of this to make it into another business that should produce results too. In my opinion, nothing is in vain in this world if we do it with good intentions, but as I said, every person's thoughts are different. is this helpful enough?

because I have my own principles in life.

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December 27, 2023, 10:11:30 AM
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I agree with this, old age should be enjoyed well, because old age in my opinion should spend a lot of time with family, a person who has a good mindset I think they will work hard at a young age because they know old age is no longer a time to work, with them working hard at a young age it will produce in the future and when in old age they only have to enjoy it, But on the other hand, where there are families that are economically disadvantaged, it is possible that old people still work because they have to support their families by fulfilling their basic needs, because there are families that are not able to generate stable finances, or the absence of complete family members makes one old person still have to work even though they are old.
And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.
Depend on each individual because not all of old age should enjoying their life with family because they have burdens and liabilities that must be paid off. Actually we are on the young age have prepare well investment assets in the future and raise old age not keep working exactly in my environment they have spent more than 8 hours in daily to work with cheapest salary payment. Right position for children can get stability financial and help our parent not have to work on older their age.
In some countries have regulation can't allow the older for working in the company but they helped with giving all insurance needed by old people, good solution for helping old people enjoying retired their life without work but get help from government.

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December 28, 2023, 07:21:37 AM
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I agree with this, old age should be enjoyed well, because old age in my opinion should spend a lot of time with family, a person who has a good mindset I think they will work hard at a young age because they know old age is no longer a time to work, with them working hard at a young age it will produce in the future and when in old age they only have to enjoy it, But on the other hand, where there are families that are economically disadvantaged, it is possible that old people still work because they have to support their families by fulfilling their basic needs, because there are families that are not able to generate stable finances, or the absence of complete family members makes one old person still have to work even though they are old.
And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.
Depend on each individual because not all of old age should enjoying their life with family because they have burdens and liabilities that must be paid off. Actually we are on the young age have prepare well investment assets in the future and raise old age not keep working exactly in my environment they have spent more than 8 hours in daily to work with cheapest salary payment. Right position for children can get stability financial and help our parent not have to work on older their age.
In some countries have regulation can't allow the older for working in the company but they helped with giving all insurance needed by old people, good solution for helping old people enjoying retired their life without work but get help from government.

yes there are also people like that, because maybe he doesn't have a complete family, for example he only lives alone so it's possible that this person has a family only in his work environment where his coworkers at work they consider as family, and even though the boss has told him to quit but if he is comfortable in that place, it's likely that he won't leave the job even though it's not because of finances but about his coworkers who are already considered as family.
And I think it also depends on the individual, you mentioned "we" not "me", I don't think everyone invests at a young age because like the story I launched earlier there are also some people who spend their money in their youth because they don't think long so they choose to spend money in their youth by having fun. "Helping elderly people enjoy their retirement without working but getting assistance from the government. "That's good, because if it's like this I think this government can see the society around it, because in my country this doesn't happen often. many people who are elderly but still work to meet their own needs or their family's needs and maybe for other reasons, I don't know myself clearly but what I see is like that.

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Here in my country early retirement starts at 60 and some other people here choose 65 as their retirement age. Though numbers differ in any parts of the world but yeah that is the the old workers enjoy the fruit of their hard work. Salute to these people who really has huge contribution to the economy sacrificing their personal wants to cater the need of their families. My mother is actually one of them she retired working at the age of 60 and now she got small monthly pension enough to be used for their daily needs. That is the reason why I had to work smart to repay their sacrifices when I was a kid. It's not a responsibility as what others might say but family is a family.



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And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.

And then after that there are stupid people asking, why are you tired of working hard and fighting tooth and nail for old age, even though God doesn't necessarily give us a long life? Why collect money to save and invest here and there just because you think that in a few years you will decide to retire and enjoy this time with your family. Who knows, maybe before you retire, you might die? And in the end you won't be able to enjoy the results of your hard work that you have accumulated, except for your funeral costs. And instead of doing all that, it's better to just use the money to have fun and enjoy your youth.

That's a series of stupid questions and statements that I often encounter. They really can't think long, and think like this, that it's better for me to spend my youth full of effort and hard work without having to forget to enjoy the process, and also stay focused on building a better future. because who knows, God will give us a long life. And if you have to die young, everything will not be in vain, because wealth and objects can be passed on to the family. And if in fact we are given a long life, then we can enjoy everything together with our family.

Well, this is interesting, basically people's thoughts are different, and as you said, I think your comment reflects someone who doesn't think about their future where they prefer to spend their money to enjoy their youth. That's not completely wrong, because it is everyone's right, especially if they do that but also don't forget to save, that's better. and in my opinion, people like this tend to have short-sighted thinking, because all they do is spend their money to have fun in their youth and not have any benefit in their old age.
and you said about death, I say once again everyone's thoughts are different, why do I think more about youth, because when I worked hard at a young age and wanted to live to enjoy old age by relaxing and enjoying the results of my hard work and if indeed I died, is it all over? I don't think so, because when I have enough results to enjoy and I die, the results that I should have enjoyed can be enjoyed by the rest of my family, maybe my sister, wife, or other relatives, also if they have I think they have a good mindset and will continue all of this to make it into another business that should produce results too. In my opinion, nothing is in vain in this world if we do it with good intentions, but as I said, every person's thoughts are different. is this helpful enough?

because I have my own principles in life.

Different heads, different contents.... And yes, everyone has different thought patterns and opinions, but don't let us be easily influenced by other people, you intend to build a better future, but because there is a whispers from other people, you change your perspective and prefer to enjoy your youth by relaxing and having fun, while whatever your future holds, it's up to God to decide.

Therefore, what you say is true, that we must have strong life principles, so that we are not easily influenced by other people, not easily confused with stupid things, especially thoughts that lead us to bad things and misery. And the environment or relationships are the main factors for a person in choosing a life principle and finding an identity. Therefore, it is important for us to sort and choose relationships, choose an association that actually invites goodness and can encourage us to be more enthusiastic about becoming better.

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In this case it will really depend on each person and also the environment in which they live, you are right, if someone is alone and doesn't have a family to take care of them, of course they have to keep working no matter how old they are because if they don't have a job, of course no one will want to take care of them. except for themselves and for those who have families, there are even some who are under 60 years old. They no longer work because their families take care of all the things they need and they will spend more time with the families they have.

this is the reason why it is important to organize your life from a young age, because we will not know what difficulties we will encounter when we are old, I have seen many people who have very difficult times in their old age because they retire and their old age makes them have to let go. their jobs and like it or not they have to be willing to live without a job in old age.
For anyone, investing from a young age is very important so that when you are old, your life will be difficult, you will not depend on other people even your own children, because we don't know how our children will behave in the future, maybe they will leave us and not care about our lives in old age.



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December 29, 2023, 02:16:26 AM
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Here in my country early retirement starts at 60 and some other people here choose 65 as their retirement age. Though numbers differ in any parts of the world but yeah that is the the old workers enjoy the fruit of their hard work. Salute to these people who really has huge contribution to the economy sacrificing their personal wants to cater the need of their families. My mother is actually one of them she retired working at the age of 60 and now she got small monthly pension enough to be used for their daily needs. That is the reason why I had to work smart to repay their sacrifices when I was a kid. It's not a responsibility as what others might say but family is a family.

60-65 seems a bit too old for someone to retire. I mean at this age, illnesses starts to occur and one might not be able to do all the things that requires physicality, and this means there are only a few more things left to enjoy the remainder of your existence.
I think the most suitable age for someone to retire and have pensions is 50. Considering how huge the government are taking taxes from businesses and workers, without a doubt it could be sustainable. We barely even seen where our taxes went lol.

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And then after that there are stupid people asking, why are you tired of working hard and fighting tooth and nail for old age, even though God doesn't necessarily give us a long life? Why collect money to save and invest here and there just because you think that in a few years you will decide to retire and enjoy this time with your family. Who knows, maybe before you retire, you might die? And in the end you won't be able to enjoy the results of your hard work that you have accumulated, except for your funeral costs. And instead of doing all that, it's better to just use the money to have fun and enjoy your youth.

That's a series of stupid questions and statements that I often encounter. They really can't think long, and think like this, that it's better for me to spend my youth full of effort and hard work without having to forget to enjoy the process, and also stay focused on building a better future. because who knows, God will give us a long life. And if you have to die young, everything will not be in vain, because wealth and objects can be passed on to the family. And if in fact we are given a long life, then we can enjoy everything together with our family.

Well, this is interesting, basically people's thoughts are different, and as you said, I think your comment reflects someone who doesn't think about their future where they prefer to spend their money to enjoy their youth. That's not completely wrong, because it is everyone's right, especially if they do that but also don't forget to save, that's better. and in my opinion, people like this tend to have short-sighted thinking, because all they do is spend their money to have fun in their youth and not have any benefit in their old age.
and you said about death, I say once again everyone's thoughts are different, why do I think more about youth, because when I worked hard at a young age and wanted to live to enjoy old age by relaxing and enjoying the results of my hard work and if indeed I died, is it all over? I don't think so, because when I have enough results to enjoy and I die, the results that I should have enjoyed can be enjoyed by the rest of my family, maybe my sister, wife, or other relatives, also if they have I think they have a good mindset and will continue all of this to make it into another business that should produce results too. In my opinion, nothing is in vain in this world if we do it with good intentions, but as I said, every person's thoughts are different. is this helpful enough?

because I have my own principles in life.

Different heads, different contents.... And yes, everyone has different thought patterns and opinions, but don't let us be easily influenced by other people, you intend to build a better future, but because there is a whispers from other people, you change your perspective and prefer to enjoy your youth by relaxing and having fun, while whatever your future holds, it's up to God to decide.

Therefore, what you say is true, that we must have strong life principles, so that we are not easily influenced by other people, not easily confused with stupid things, especially thoughts that lead us to bad things and misery. And the environment or relationships are the main factors for a person in choosing a life principle and finding an identity. Therefore, it is important for us to sort and choose relationships, choose an association that actually invites goodness and can encourage us to be more enthusiastic about becoming better.

In my opinion, the contents of the head are the same, namely the brain, the difference is the way of thinking haha, don't be too serious, friend. Grin
with different thoughts this is clear,  and I think everyone wants a successful future, if perhaps there are people who don't want a successful future maybe they have their own reasons. what is clearly true as what you said is don't be easily influenced by other people, and with us having thoughts of course we can determine which things are good for us and which things are bad for us, so if we are influenced by things that trigger goodness or profit That's good, but if you're influenced by something bad or detrimental,  it's best not to and don't be careless if you don't want to have problems in life.

Yes, you are right, relationships are also a factor that must be paid attention to, because if we make the wrong connections, of course we will be carried away by bad currents too. and in my opinion,  don't hesitate to do something good or something good, because it's for ourselves,  unless the person really wants to always get into trouble, maybe they will do something bad that could harm them, but if there is someone like this, I think he stupid.

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Here in my country early retirement starts at 60 and some other people here choose 65 as their retirement age. Though numbers differ in any parts of the world but yeah that is the the old workers enjoy the fruit of their hard work. Salute to these people who really has huge contribution to the economy sacrificing their personal wants to cater the need of their families.
Previous people who worked in government offices or in government services really had a clear dedication to developing the economy. Even though by law they are paid by the government, the way they work is very tenacious and never gets tired so that those who have reached the age to retire will be truly proud of their country and their families too. I see this in people who are still alive and have retired in my area, especially my neighbors and my own parents.

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My mother is actually one of them she retired working at the age of 60 and now she got small monthly pension enough to be used for their daily needs. That is the reason why I had to work smart to repay their sacrifices when I was a kid. It's not a responsibility as what others might say but family is a family.
In general, a child will not be able to repay his parents even though a child makes various sacrifices to repay him. But I would rather say it as a form of devotion because as long as our parents are still alive and they have retired, of course it is a child's duty to take care of him and also provide every devotion to him. And I think you are also a very good child if you try to make sacrifices for your own parents in their retirement for now, because many children out there are still not able to do this for their own parents.
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If you're working under someone being employed, you may not have choice o er your retirement plan than what they give from their own rules to follow concerning retirement plans, but when you're independent of yourself and the work or business you do, you will do it to your satisfaction until you feel like, you're indeed satisfied enough, not only that, you can leave the work for tour children to take over after you when they understand how to run the business and manage it well, together with their interest in doing it, then you can choose when to retire or not.



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December 29, 2023, 07:53:06 PM
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Here in my country early retirement starts at 60 and some other people here choose 65 as their retirement age. Though numbers differ in any parts of the world but yeah that is the the old workers enjoy the fruit of their hard work. Salute to these people who really has huge contribution to the economy sacrificing their personal wants to cater the need of their families. My mother is actually one of them she retired working at the age of 60 and now she got small monthly pension enough to be used for their daily needs. That is the reason why I had to work smart to repay their sacrifices when I was a kid. It's not a responsibility as what others might say but family is a family.

60-65 seems a bit too old for someone to retire. I mean at this age, illnesses starts to occur and one might not be able to do all the things that requires physicality, and this means there are only a few more things left to enjoy the remainder of your existence.
I think the most suitable age for someone to retire and have pensions is 50. Considering how huge the government are taking taxes from businesses and workers, without a doubt it could be sustainable. We barely even seen where our taxes went lol.
Even at age 50 on which illness would really be starting to occur on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be that considering on having those retirement as early as possible but if you are that someone whose really that working into a company or private/public then they had already set those bar standards on which you cant really be able to get retirement funds if you cant really be able to hit that specific number of years of work or service on which this one wont really be leaving you any options or choice but to deal up with those things. To those who had made out those voluntary retirement is into those people who had been able to make themselves succeed on other ventures on which they had made out themselves to be that successful about business on which they are really that confident that they could quit and they could sustain
if ever they would be deciding on quitting up their job.

It is really just that good to see that we are really that stopping working and would be focusing into the things on which we are interested in without stressing yourself that you might be losing up your job.
It could be possible but its not a state that you could really be easily be able to achieve because we know that things in life doesnt really come that easy and it would really be requiring that hard work
and effort for you to be able to reach out that state.

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In my opinion, the contents of the head are the same, namely the brain, the difference is the way of thinking haha, don't be too serious, friend. Grin
with different thoughts this is clear,  and I think everyone wants a successful future, if perhaps there are people who don't want a successful future maybe they have their own reasons. what is clearly true as what you said is don't be easily influenced by other people, and with us having thoughts of course we can determine which things are good for us and which things are bad for us, so if we are influenced by things that trigger goodness or profit That's good, but if you're influenced by something bad or detrimental,  it's best not to and don't be careless if you don't want to have problems in life.

Yes, you are right, relationships are also a factor that must be paid attention to, because if we make the wrong connections, of course we will be carried away by bad currents too. and in my opinion,  don't hesitate to do something good or something good, because it's for ourselves,  unless the person really wants to always get into trouble, maybe they will do something bad that could harm them, but if there is someone like this, I think he stupid.

Not really bro, there are some whose brains are empty and there are also some whose brains are in their knees. and there are also brains, shrimp brains... hihihihi

Everyone wants to be successful, but not everyone is able to achieve success... either because their efforts are not optimal, or they don't try at all to make it happen... because if you only plan, everyone is capable of making a plan, but not everyone people are able to realize what they plan. I don't know, maybe it's because of a sense of laziness that can no longer be helped or because they don't really care enough about their future... and in the end they only rely on inheritance from their parents, but it's still better if their parents are rich, if their parents are poor... well, what do you want? inherited.

Apart from that we also have to be smart and wise in matters of friendship... however, we also have to be wiser in choosing a life partner... choose a partner who can really keep you enthusiastic, both in pursuing a career and in the business world... because quite a few people... a person who before marriage, he had a good career.. however, after marriage he became a lazy person.. because he was influenced by his partner

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