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April 25, 2023, 11:30:14 AM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

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April 25, 2023, 11:52:16 AM
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“Sabong” or the placing of bets on live cockfighting is an established tradition in the Philippines that dates as early as three thousand (3,000) years ago. The gaming activity is essentially placing two roosters/cocks in an arena and betting on which between the two comes out victorious.

I do not think it is what they even accept as gambling is Philippines by some people. But if it is accepted as gambling, it is stated in the news that it was legal before when the man was involved in it.

If the government legalize gambling, anyone can be involved in gambling. But countries will have their own rules about government officials to be involved in gambling or not.

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April 25, 2023, 12:07:50 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

In Albania in 2019 all online sites were banned from being accessed from all ISP-s with an order directly for the Prime Minister and only the domain and gambling site where the brother of the Prime Minister was the main shareholder was let for people to play there.I am not at all surprised of politicians trying to get as much money as possible as where I reside now in Western Balkans,corruption is the main game for a lot of such politicians,they lie to us that they will improve our lives but in the end they always end up improving their life and those of their family.Nothing to be surprised wherever happens in Philippines,Western Balkans or even the United States as people are the same in all the world,greed is deep in our roots.

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April 25, 2023, 12:19:06 PM
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

Yes it should be, but those politicians will not create nor pass a law regarding on prohibition on something like that since it benefits them towards the funds they needed on election days. What best thing to do about that situation is to see which of those politician is involve and don't vote them so that this activities will be stop, also vote for the right person who against this so that they can eliminate crimes and solve those pending cases which is related to this activities.

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April 25, 2023, 12:24:35 PM
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I think responsible people should run for leadership of country. Its not exactly about owning gambling businesses. Obviously I googled to know what this e-sabong thing is. It is cockfighting game which is really terrible for animals. I think the thing that should be outlawed is animal fights. Regular gambling does not hurt any living being. I would never trust such kind of guy, establishing very inhumane way of generation money through gambling, looking for political power through money he made etc. I hope he won't get voted we don't need that type of people around.
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April 25, 2023, 12:38:11 PM
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

The government should have a law about this but knowing how corrupt our government system, I don't think any law pertaining to this one will be implemented because almost all of the owners of gambling platforms like jueteng or even cockfight arenas, were owned by politicians.

They run for government offices so as to protect their personal interest or they paid politicians to protect their businesses, sad truth that is happening in the Philippines.

This politician that you are talking about was paying the police or having control of the police in his town so we can't expect a lawful province if this politician is still in office but that event (killing of the governor) might be a blessing in disguise as he is now hunted by the government and i think he won't win in an election because of this incident.

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April 25, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
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[....]Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling,
It should be fine as long as it is legally operating in the country with complete papers. Why single out gambling by the way? We all know that many politicians enrich themselves in different ways and that includes though their personal investments. If you would prohibit politician businesses that related to gambling then why not just have a rule that they shouldn't own any business?
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April 25, 2023, 12:49:44 PM
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I think responsible people should run for leadership of country. Its not exactly about owning gambling businesses. Obviously I googled to know what this e-sabong thing is. It is cockfighting game which is really terrible for animals. I think the thing that should be outlawed is animal fights. Regular gambling does not hurt any living being. I would never trust such kind of guy, establishing very inhumane way of generation money through gambling, looking for political power through money he made etc. I hope he won't get voted we don't need that type of people around.

Online sabong or online cockfighting is already illegal in the Philippines IIRC but our country is probably one of the most corrupt in the world. So illegalities continue to run here when you have the power, money, and connections from various officials to cover and protect your illegal business.

Many of these dirty government officials won because they spent a lot of money on assistance during the COVID-19 pandemic where a lot of people suffered financially and had difficulty accessing food and other basic needs.

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April 25, 2023, 01:00:26 PM
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This is because the anti-dynasty law that was proposed is still pending in the senate of the Philippines, they don't want it ratified because if they do many of the political clans will lose control of the power they hold in their provinces and cities, buying votes and corruptions is very rampant in the Philippines that is why they need money and the easiest source is gambling.
Many politicians operate or support gambling platforms legal and illegal, it's hard to accept this but politicians can easily buy votes many voters are still not responsible voters.
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Personally, I thing the government should impose a strict requirements for people who wants to run in the election— not only about gambling but on a lot of things... But to be honest, this isn't surprising at all since they will really do anything just to win the election. Of course, once you've got the position, you have access to the public fund. Election is like their investment, they'd do everything to acquire funds for the election and once they win, they can reimburse it through the people's money.

Obviously, gambling is a big source of funds for them. E-Sabong alone was a big thing already. A lot of people become addicted to it because it can easily be access by gamblers even without going outside. They will operate gambling even if it's illegal cause they know people are addicted to gambling and the more people gamble, the more money they can get. Also another thing, they are not afraid to operate illegally cause they are backed up by bigger politicians who protects them.
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April 25, 2023, 01:14:39 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
This shouldn't be a problem if a politician decided to create a Gambling for the sake of making more money which is not against the law in my own country. The problem is that many of these politicians are so how scared that having a well known company can make there opponents come for them and attack them in any form. I think having a gambling is a good innovation to create more jobs for the people to have something doing than taking the money to another country to make investment and create employment in that country. The politicians are also doing a great help to the people to have job employment.

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April 25, 2023, 01:15:45 PM
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When a country cannot implement the rule of the law this is what happens, I don't want to only put the Philippines in the spotlight but it's not only in this country but so many countries are like that, politicians are gambling operators, money launderers and operating so many illegal activities and even drug lords I don't want to mention names of the countries but this is exactly what's happening in third world countries, where only a few families lorded it over a whole nation.
This is what haunts third-world countries they cannot move forward because of corrupt politicians, there should be a law that prohibits politicians to operate or manage gambling platforms because they become corrupt officials.

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April 25, 2023, 01:20:30 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t
I think it depends on the law on the eligibility of candidacy from the bottom to the top of your country's hierarchy. If what they are doing is legally valid in your country I think that's fine and it should work properly, but if you are worried about political activities that are morally unhealthy or have a bad impact on society, then you should have laws firm and explicit about this. Even though gambling is a tradition, in the Philippines, it will be seen as indirectly targeting the community, through gambling which is intended to fund elections.

I think responsible people should run for leadership of country. Its not exactly about owning gambling businesses. Obviously I googled to know what this e-sabong thing is. It is cockfighting game which is really terrible for animals. I think the thing that should be outlawed is animal fights. Regular gambling does not hurt any living being. I would never trust such kind of guy, establishing very inhumane way of generation money through gambling, looking for political power through money he made etc. I hope he won't get voted we don't need that type of people around.
Obviously it's inhumane because of the animals they fight. lol Grin
I quite understand and agree with what you are trying to convey in this matter, indeed gambling is not a natural thing to be held because it hurts animals that are used as tools for gambling, but the problem is that e-sabong gambling is a culture that must be maintained in the context of a caring country. civilization, with regards to the proceeds of gambling being used as funding for political activity I think it is legal if it is not prohibited and is not detrimental.

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April 25, 2023, 01:26:36 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t
Sad truth is, no matter what rules are set, as long as money bypasses everything, they could still run a gambling platform even if their are involved with politics. They can use ghost employees to simply hide their identities and also continue the operation of that platform or site itself. That's just how money works which resembles and characterizes power, unfortunately to some countries. Even if they are caught on the act, they could use money to prolongue the trial process and eventually win the case. There are just many ways to do things as long as they have the drive to do so and ofcourse power to make it happen, both on a positive and negative manner.

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April 25, 2023, 02:06:34 PM
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It all depends on the existing law, but it should be held to prevent these politicians, I don't really want to know much about this problem maybe if in my country it is clearly prohibited besides cockfighting gambling is illegal in my country and there is already a law to criminalize anyone who are involved in gambling, we also do not close our eyes that many politicians and even government officials have income from gambling even in my country too, it's just that lately many officials have been caught red-handed for being involved in owning gambling sites.

I also thought why should involving animals in gambling that is clearly not very good, why not play in a better casino than letting animals fight to death like cockfights, that is very inhumane even as a gambler I criticize gambling like that

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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Let's point out what you said, "election candidates".

My question is, what if these candidates are not politicians before but decided to run in the election and already owned a franchise in gambling? Are they not qualified to run? The best thing to strongly implement is, once a candidate now becomes a government official and held a government office, they should let go of their gambling franchise as a public official.

Be used to it when it comes to the source of election funds, candidates especially those with lots of machinery will use their power to accumulate money from any means. Not just happening in the Philippines but also in other countries.
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April 25, 2023, 08:01:47 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t
I do not subscribe to the idea of politicians or any highly placed government official to have a share or own a gambling company operating in their domain as it is possible to influence the rules of operations on how other gambling sites should operate only in the exception of his owned gambling platform leading to some kind of monopoly. Hence, gamblers are the ones that would bear the brunt as they would be susceptible to unfair games practices.

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April 25, 2023, 08:19:00 PM
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It all depends on the existing law, but it should be held to prevent these politicians, I don't really want to know much about this problem maybe if in my country it is clearly prohibited besides cockfighting gambling is illegal in my country and there is already a law to criminalize anyone who are involved in gambling, we also do not close our eyes that many politicians and even government officials have income from gambling even in my country too, it's just that lately many officials have been caught red-handed for being involved in owning gambling sites.

I also thought why should involving animals in gambling that is clearly not very good, why not play in a better casino than letting animals fight to death like cockfights, that is very inhumane even as a gambler I criticize gambling like that

Involving animals like roosters and horses in betting has long been in the culture of humanity.
So there are indeed countries that are treating this type of gambling as legal and part of their culture.
However, with the involvement of politicians, it makes this gambling business more dirty in terms of operations.
They are willing to sacrifice the life of other people in order to serve their personal interest.
It is like no one should get on their way, otherwise, you will be disposed without bail. That's when this kind of business is going their worst path.
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it's not new to our country where politicians are involved, some of them own a casino or a cockpit arena.

government is a big mafia in our country. Teves clashed with powerful gangs in the country that can link him to any crime including that 30+ sabongeros that were kidnapped and never been found. so in order for the authorities to have something to report, they made Teves the fall guy. Teves is not even the most bright politician, never been heard of on nationwide tv until one governor was murdered. but i think it's true that he operates esabong rivaling the big guys like Atong Ang.

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April 25, 2023, 08:54:47 PM
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
Do you think that even if there is a rule about it that these sneaky corrupt politicians will not still find a way to be involved in this casino business without being in the front of it. Many politicians are not supposed to be involved in many illegal activities, but it has not stopped them. They have involved themselves indirectly and have managed to still ensure their profit somehow to enrich their pocket. The major thing for most of them is to do their thing and not get caught by the system.

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