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There’s a lot of money in gambling, and you can’t expect anything from a corrupt government. This is not a new practice anymore, we’ve seen this already and that congressman involves already on many issues including murder. Well, that e-sabong is still there operating illegally, many politicians are working with them silently, as long as there is big money for this you can expect them to be mote active here.
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April 25, 2023, 09:58:31 PM |
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong. Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns. Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’tAs long it isnt banned on a certain countries jurisdiction then everyone is free to engage with these kind of business and of course there's nothing wrong on what are their motives about on the revenue that they would be making. We know that as long it doesnt step on countries laws or does violate then it should be fine. If they do have that motive on accumulating profits for election funds then so be it and just let them be. The wrong thing on here is on the time where killing is already get involved, it doesnt really sounds that good in any way no matter how mortal the enemy is. There's no right to kill someone and its just sad that when politics do really been engage when it comes to connection then there's no said justice on specific situations which theres nothing we can do. For a corrupt country like Philippines, even if e gambling is prohibited or banned then there would be still those illegal operations which it would be bypassed out considering that they could bribe of to those who do handle or who do impose such law. So its still pointless or useless when we are trying out to prohibit if they would really be having those connections and treatment which it is really that totally unfair.
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April 25, 2023, 10:35:07 PM |
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
Do you think that even if there is a rule about it that these sneaky corrupt politicians will not still find a way to be involved in this casino business without being in the front of it. Many politicians are not supposed to be involved in many illegal activities, but it has not stopped them. They have involved themselves indirectly and have managed to still ensure their profit somehow to enrich their pocket. The major thing for most of them is to do their thing and not get caught by the system. ^That is the point, the reason why they wanted to sit that position is because of the power not wage on it. The issue of politicians using their position to operate gambling platforms or engage in other illegal activities for personal gain is a serious concern, particularly in countries where elections are expensive and candidates may resort to unethical practices to secure their victory. Considering the implementation of a law or rule that would prohibit election candidates from owning or operating any form of gambling franchise, legal or otherwise, to prevent conflicts of interest and potential abuses of power. This would not only ensure fairness and integrity in the election process but also help to uphold the principles of good governance and accountability. It is important for politicians to remember that their duty is to serve the people and not to use their power for personal enrichment or to gain an unfair advantage in the political arena.
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April 25, 2023, 10:36:25 PM |
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong. Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns. Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’tAs long it isnt banned on a certain countries jurisdiction then everyone is free to engage with these kind of business and of course there's nothing wrong on what are their motives about on the revenue that they would be making. We know that as long it doesnt step on countries laws or does violate then it should be fine. If they do have that motive on accumulating profits for election funds then so be it and just let them be. The wrong thing on here is on the time where killing is already get involved, it doesnt really sounds that good in any way no matter how mortal the enemy is. There's no right to kill someone and its just sad that when politics do really been engage when it comes to connection then there's no said justice on specific situations which theres nothing we can do. For a corrupt country like Philippines, even if e gambling is prohibited or banned then there would be still those illegal operations which it would be bypassed out considering that they could bribe of to those who do handle or who do impose such law. So its still pointless or useless when we are trying out to prohibit if they would really be having those connections and treatment which it is really that totally unfair. Isnt it yet banned? According on what i have researched: 7 illegal e-sabong websites shut down; others under investigationPNP wants e-sabong tagged as illegal gambling actSo just like on traditional casinos then there are so called legal or registered E-sabong sites? Ridiculous. I did dig further and i found that they do really have eSabong is defined as the online/remote or off-site wagering/betting on live cockfighting matches, events, and/or activities streamed or broadcasted live from cockpit arena/s licensed or authorized by the Local Government Units having jurisdiction thereof.Source: https://www.pagcor.ph/regulatory/e-sabong.php
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Politics is dirty, gambling is dirty. When these two joined forces, it becomes a dirty country. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But this is not new to the politics of the Philippines and is still happening now. We lack the government teeth to enforce real law and order and stop this kind of shitty thing to happen. A seated official should not have a gambling business because he can use it for his own agenda. Just imagine how bad it will be if ever he wins the campaign. The gambling game will be like a legal thing to do at their place because every policeman can be paid thru the profits of the business. Worse, there's no tax or it is not a complete breakdown of how much he should be paying. This will mean that the government is not making anything out of this business and they won't even know it. Let the businessman handle the business, the politicians handle the law, these two should be separated because every time there is money involved it gets dirty.
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
Regardless, will that law really be enforced? Whether on what are those things where the election campaign funds came from, it's easy for these politicians to state in their respective ads that it was a paid campaign advertisement from their friends. Referring to how the PH election goes, it was the most scene that people see here. Actually, here in PH, I'm sure the source of campaign funds doesn't really matter even though I believed there's a law for it. What the Commission of Election here is always strict about is the "Set Budget" that a candidate should spend in the whole entire campaign period and that also includes their exposure on TV ads etc.
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Politicians should not be involved directly in any sort of gambling company. First off, a politician shouldn't have enough time to be doing extra stuff like that outside of his job which is to serve the people. Politicians get way too many freedoms when it comes to stuff like this.
In the United States, when a president owns a company(s) they are supposed to pass the management duties on to someone else until they are out of office (whether this actually happens or not is debatable) and that should apply here in my opinion.
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns. I think this is an issue that must be resolved by each country, based on their customs and not generalizing this in a global context. Well, you see... there are countries where gambling is not even allowed, in others it is strictly regulated while others still have much more lenient legislation. However, I believe that every country should rigorously monitor the money used in political campaigns and ensure that its origin is lawful, because if the problems of corruption and dishonesty begin right away in the electoral campaigns, it will certainly continue during the elected politician's term and it hurts the whole country.
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
Actually, here in PH, I'm sure the source of campaign funds doesn't really matter even though I believed there's a law for it. What the Commission of Election here is always strict about is the "Set Budget" that a candidate should spend in the whole entire campaign period and that also includes their exposure on TV ads etc. But the set budget has not been followed by majority of the politicians since if they exceed they will just tell it that those money spent came from there campaign donors. This is really bad because there implemented set budget will not be followed so they need to set up some new standards so those greedy politician and businessman will not exploit this and their negative doings towards this gambling also with other stuff will be stop.
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April 26, 2023, 02:17:23 AM |
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-snip- Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
It would be policy complex to take multiple preferences based on the case. In the article it is stated that the politician did this before cockfighting gambling was banned (not yet categorized as a crime), of course at that time the risks were never thought of and who would run this business, and what would be the practice. However, I agree that policy also reaches the casino industry team, bearing in mind that political activities often encourage politicians to do illegal things because of the need for large financial support.
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If I'm not mistaken, there's a law which prohibits sitting elected government officials to get involved in gambling operations. As a matter of fact, there was probably an order even for ordinary government workers not to get involved in casino gambling. The point is that gambling is perceived, or is actually, dirty and it's better if government personnel avoid it altogether.
The case of Teves is clear, but not unique in the country. He is into legal and illegal gambling. In both cases, he is violating a law. But he can't just be apprehended because he is very rich and powerful and he obviously is more than willing to bribe, threaten, or even kill anybody who gets in the way.
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong. Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns. Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’tThis is cockfighting and what I do know is that this gambling had been on the system from generation to generations , meaning from our grandfathers this game is in existence in which even without the help of anyone this will operate as gamblers will find their way. but this issue is different as we are talking in Online version that of course lets this kind of gambling easily to operate and also push people to live a life in miserable way as this has been written in news paper and in News everyday last year. now with the abolishing ? some gamblers have their way out, so this government official must be questioned and also the government must have a law against this kind. politicians are to help the country have a better living and not to let them dig their own grave .
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As long as gambling is not illegal in that country, it is very difficult for the government of that country to make regulations prohibiting a politician from being involved in the gambling business and financing his campaign with gambling money because by not prohibiting gambling means that the country considers gambling not an activity that can be detrimental or wrong activity. But actually even though a country has clear regulations regarding gambling it is very possible for a politician to violate them because there is a system that protects them because political parties are also part of the government, not even just politicians but the security forces are also part of the protection because everything is about money to be obtained.
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April 26, 2023, 04:59:07 AM |
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong. Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns. Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’tIf gambling is legal then I do not see any problem with a politician engaging on the gambling business as long as they have all the permissions to operate legally and the games they offer are not manipulated in any way or form. After all at that point a casino is like any other business which has to pay taxes, licenses, utilities and all what is needed to run it, and obviously if gambling is deemed illegal or a politician is using their influence to run it without the necessary licenses then that casino needs to close its doors and the politician needs to face the legal and social consequences of running a casino in this way.
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Kakmakr
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April 26, 2023, 05:49:12 AM |
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The solution will be for all politicians to declare the donations or funding of their campaigns. This should be enforced and total transparency should be applied to make sure that things like this does not happen. The problem is this... the politicians make the laws and they protect their own interests. So you should vote for politicians that can change the laws to protect the people. (This is not easy .... because most politicians are corrupt) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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April 26, 2023, 06:37:06 AM |
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong. Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns. Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’tI'm not sure if such legislation would be implemented effectively. Most politicians use dummy corporations to cover their ownership. Many politicians also use the money they get from their illegal businesses to bribe the law enforcements, prosecutors and judges. Corruption is really like a plaque. It infects the entire state and the society. I remember that a politician in my country secretly owned an online sports betting platform and he used to make 100 million per year. I'm not sure that he still makes that amount. He wasn't very popular and he left the parliament years ago.
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April 26, 2023, 07:52:53 AM |
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
Personally I don't see a issue here as long as gambling is fully legalised and there are no advantages for politicians. As long as any person can open a casino and the gambling industry is regulated so that there are no scams it should be fine. A casino as a company as any other and shouldn't be penalised. It's like not allowing politicians to own a company that sells alcohol, tobacco or firearms. In case the politician uses his power to promote his business and limit the competition than of course it's wrong. I don't have anything against politicians owning companies, but there should be higher regulatory standards than for the average business owner. Maybe a special department that looks more closely on taxes, regulations and corporate governance for people in power could help to make people feel better about it.
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April 26, 2023, 01:21:43 PM |
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Politicians have their hands in everything, nothing can happen without them. I guess in some developed countries there are some rules and regulations about "conflict of interest" in this matter, and maybe even more important those rules and regulations are applied. In my country, this is shady as it can be... gambling is on the up-trend, casinos are almost everywhere, and they are generating a lot of income. There are rules and regulations, but there are tricks on how to avoid them as well. It's especially easy with the help of corrupted institutions that stay blind to whatever happens.
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April 26, 2023, 01:31:56 PM |
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The solution will be for all politicians to declare the donations or funding of their campaigns. This should be enforced and total transparency should be applied to make sure that things like this does not happen. The problem is this... the politicians make the laws and they protect their own interests. So you should vote for politicians that can change the laws to protect the people. (This is not easy .... because most politicians are corrupt) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I think this data will also be collected after the election but. The official handle this department will not create any actions towards that donation matters and this is what those corrupt politicians exploits since they know that if they put the money on donation side they will not be question on how much they spend during their campaigns. If our country is already in this situation where we can't do anything regarding on fixing this matters even if we complain then maybe its more better to use to revenge on election day and don't vote those politician which their name is involve on gambling and other illegal situations.
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April 26, 2023, 04:01:19 PM |
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
We have Gun ban law during election yet this politician has a private army carrying heavy fire arm that is illegally obtained so I doubt that this scammy politician will follow it or approved it in the congress because they all have self interest. Actually most of the politicians has self interest. Manny Villar has a real estate business but him, his wife and son has a position on senate and DPWH respectively that is already conflict of interest yet people in authority turn a blind eye on this shit show. Creating a law that tailored for politician will not gonna work because they will be the one who will create it and they will not allow to approve such law that will be use against them. This is the sad reality.
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