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April 26, 2023, 04:23:48 PM
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I think the government needs rules to prohibit candidates from having franchises in gambling because they can get campaign funds from illegal activities easily. We will also never know whether his casino is really his business or will only be a place to collect their funds. So the government should make a law that does not allow candidates to own a gambling business, hold office in a company, and let the people vote for them. If the people like the candidate, they will vote for him because they already know the candidate's track record.
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April 26, 2023, 04:38:26 PM
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I think the government needs rules to prohibit candidates from having franchises in gambling because they can get campaign funds from illegal activities easily. We will also never know whether his casino is really his business or will only be a place to collect their funds. So the government should make a law that does not allow candidates to own a gambling business, hold office in a company, and let the people vote for them. If the people like the candidate, they will vote for him because they already know the candidate's track record.
Legislation like this is usually not easy, but if it continues to be allowed it will be a bad thing to collect campaign funds from the proceeds of gambling places, even though maybe there it is something commonplace or legal, in my opinion this method is not good enough to be seen and emulated by the people there, let alone the people who have chosen to represent them to manage their government, obviously will not be good.

If the government is ruled by people like this, aka gambling owners, of course gambling will widen everywhere and of course it will be detrimental to the people of the country itself, as we know that being a gambler cannot always improve our existing economy if politicians are given the opportunity and he is a gambling owner, I'm sure it will have an impact on the country's economy later.

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April 26, 2023, 05:16:14 PM
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
What is the relationship between the government that must make regulations or laws for politicians who nominate themselves if they have franchises in the gambling business and I do not see the mistakes of politicians who try to build a gambling business, especially in the past, the business is legal to run. In terms of ethics there may be a point in every leader must reflect good deeds to their people and each country is different in viewing gambling and prohibitions can be applied to the community, but political power sometimes gives their access to running a broader business there.

If I'm not mistaken now e-Sabong is illegal in the country and that means it has been prohibited to run. His mistakes do not lies in government relations with the selection of politicians who have to regulate business in gambling, but rather their financial sources that must be explored, whether there is a connection with crime or money laundering.

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April 26, 2023, 05:30:40 PM
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Politicians are the scum of the society. They will always put their interests above the interests of the local society. Thankfully we have cryptocurrency casinos which allow us to gamble at virtual platforms which have nothing to do with our local authorities. Therefore, you don't need to play at e-sabong platform, so you won't generate any profits and benefits for this politician and the people partnered with him.

Furthermore, don't waste your precious time thinking what politicians should or shouldn't do. They will do this anyway. The important is what you can do to stay away from them and from services and products they are involved with.

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April 26, 2023, 05:57:24 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

I'm guessing that there are already plenty of laws in place around these activities, I don't know the laws of the Philippines but you've called this game illegal. Beyond that, someone who is willing to murder people in the course of building their business empire are usually not the sort of people that care about laws anyway. Laws are only helpful if they are enforced equally and fairly, it's hard enough to get convictions in even the most advanced countries of these people in positions of power or who are able to afford expensive lawyers, but I can only imagine there is way more corruption in this country that means it's possible to buy your way out of anything by applying pressure in the right places.

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April 26, 2023, 06:25:42 PM
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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
Maybe we here have to first understand the election laws in each country, I'm sure every country has different rules, whether it's the wealth owned by the candidate or the campaign budget itself, the practice of gambling as far as I know involving high-ranking officials is classified as an open secret in Asia, Hong Kong, Singapore, the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam etc., has become a major factor for those running for regional heads, the gambling industry is the mastermind behind the money for campaignselection.

Basically the money that is used by election candidates to buy votes in election campaigns, it is illegal, there is no data on the wealth of a candidate, even though there is data on wealth that is only in the form of physical assets such as land, houses, cars and bank deposits, so no matter what election law is enacted, if the candidate is using money from the gambling industry they are still using it. laws can be broken by them.

Usually illegal, money used by candidates in elections, uncovered from illegal results leveraged by losing opponents, if they know, but useless, those with a lot of money win despite lawsuits.

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April 26, 2023, 06:29:42 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.
Except the gambling platform engage in any illegal activities I don't see any reason to make laws that will bar politicians from owning or sponsoring gambling platforms or casino. Gambling is not the only source of revenue for politicians because they venture into almost any kind of business to raise money for elections. Some politicians invest in gun running, drug peddling, human trafficking, and even prostitution to raise funds to win elections.

Politicians that engage in illegal gambling should be arrested and persecuted, while those that are clean should be allowed to operate their casino businesses. It will be ideal better to make laws that monitor the source of funds of politicians just to ensure that they are not proceeds for illegal business. The cost is contesting elections should also be reduced so that politicians will not be forced to engage in illegal activities.

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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

Not only in gambling!

I believe that politicians should not be allowed to have any kind of income other than their pay from the government for their position. That pay should be transparent and fair.

They should not be allowed to have any other kind of pay, income or businesses or equities. If they are offered money, its in the human nature to accept it. Some may be more or less corrupt than others but its a danger nonetheless.  

Don't get me wrong, I am not one of those anti-capitalistic people who want a communistic government. I just think that people who have power should be restricted in their freedom of becoming corrupt.

Not only politicians. Think about how many jobs require a person to be non-corrupt. They should have more powerful restrictions. You would not want your doctor to do unnecessary surgery for the money, would you?

Either they get to be a powerful individual who decides over the lives and futures of their fellow people or they can be rich entrepreneurs who hold no power over the future of the people. They should not be allowed to be both.

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April 26, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
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 I've heard so many similar stories of politicians getting involved in casinos and not just getting involved but also owning and running some major casinos and I think there are rules that kicks against politicians and government officials from involving in trading and gambling because there are possibilities of them looting government funds and channeling it through their platforms.
I haven't know of the fore mentioned platform but one ring I've always know is that most of this politicians are always self centered and I will always place their personal interest above the interest of their subject and I will personally advice that peiole should stay clear if this very casino to avoid stories that touch.

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These days we were able to see more business people getting converted into politicians. So, these kind of activities were common. Just take a look up the president's around the world and their backing. Everyone used to have some sort of business. Distribution of money to get votes were common and this is found all around the world. However it is the people's mind to accept and the same doesn't assure he have voted for the particular person. Very few used to be loyal to the person who paid him/her, majority just watch the right person and vote.

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this is a subject that I had been talking about in the past, in the physical casinos of many countries the corrupt politicians who are from the party that governs the country are laundering money and taking the money to finance his election and to pay for the good life of them, so what has happened is that many political parties that are governing the countries own casinos, obviously they make it look like the casino has an owner who has no party connections but in fact the guy they put as the owner of the casino is a guy who takes orders from the political party, this has happened a lot in africa

and just see that in africa the african countries encouraged people to create casinos and hotels with the aim of maximizing tourism, but the physical casinos that are being created are us within luxury hotels, the hotel and the casino belong to great figures of the political party that governs the country and serve for money laundering, the corrupt political party are not concerned with the profitability of casinos and luxury hotels that they build, their objective is to use the casino and luxury hotel for money laundering, the obviously they ask for KYC for normal customers, but who will ask for KYC for the land-based casino owner? the government, the same corrupt government, so you can already see that KYC is only for ordinary customers in these physical casinos. this happens a lot in africa, i don't know how and in other continents

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April 26, 2023, 08:40:57 PM
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A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

IMO, politicians should not be allowed to do business or businesses that have an element of gambling. because, it is very vulnerable to abuse, such as money laundering, for example. or, as you quoted in this thread. that the money they manage from e-sabong is used to fund campaign activities. it's just that, the problem is that in the link you shared what the politician was doing was not illegal. well, after recently, on the site said, the government started enacting rules and banning e-sabong and making it illegal.

Related to what you are discussing, the government in your country should prohibit politicians from getting involved in business related to the element of gambling, be it lottery, online casino, or whatever kind. cause, like I said from the start. if, politicians or we can say state officials who are involved in the business of gambling platforms. very vulnerable in relation to money laundering, funding something illegal or all kinds of things. if it remains, don't be surprised if the practices you mentioned in this thread will continue to exist and regenerate. to be honest, i am very concerned regardless of whether or not the link you shared in this thread is true or not.

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April 26, 2023, 09:03:39 PM
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a gambling platform (legal) it's a business like any other.
in other countries (example here in Italy) politicians (or their relatives) have shares or are part of the boards of directors of betting/casino sites.
it is obviously illegal to buy votes or other criminal activities linked, but I think the simple ownership of a business MUST be allowed without any limitation also because it would introduce a "dangerous precedent".
In practice we would go back to risk the oligarchy, in which only extremely wealthy people can afford to do this service for the community.

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April 27, 2023, 05:58:19 AM
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I think the government needs rules to prohibit candidates from having franchises in gambling because they can get campaign funds from illegal activities easily. We will also never know whether his casino is really his business or will only be a place to collect their funds. So the government should make a law that does not allow candidates to own a gambling business, hold office in a company, and let the people vote for them. If the people like the candidate, they will vote for him because they already know the candidate's track record.
Legislation like this is usually not easy, but if it continues to be allowed it will be a bad thing to collect campaign funds from the proceeds of gambling places, even though maybe there it is something commonplace or legal, in my opinion this method is not good enough to be seen and emulated by the people there, let alone the people who have chosen to represent them to manage their government, obviously will not be good.

If the government is ruled by people like this, aka gambling owners, of course gambling will widen everywhere and of course it will be detrimental to the people of the country itself, as we know that being a gambler cannot always improve our existing economy if politicians are given the opportunity and he is a gambling owner, I'm sure it will have an impact on the country's economy later.
It depends on the government's attitude when it sees a problem with candidates owning a gambling business and using funds from that gambling business. But so far, that's what has happened in many places and the government also doesn't act decisively on it and it seems the government just ignores it.

If these regulations can be implemented properly, business owners who become candidates must be able to work for the people if people choose them and think about what is best for their people. So that they don't only think about accumulating wealth from their positions. I am worried that if the candidate is elected as a government person, the people will not get the welfare they promised during the campaign.
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April 27, 2023, 06:09:45 AM
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I think the government needs rules to prohibit candidates from having franchises in gambling because they can get campaign funds from illegal activities easily. We will also never know whether his casino is really his business or will only be a place to collect their funds. So the government should make a law that does not allow candidates to own a gambling business, hold office in a company, and let the people vote for them. If the people like the candidate, they will vote for him because they already know the candidate's track record.
Legislation like this is usually not easy, but if it continues to be allowed it will be a bad thing to collect campaign funds from the proceeds of gambling places, even though maybe there it is something commonplace or legal, in my opinion this method is not good enough to be seen and emulated by the people there, let alone the people who have chosen to represent them to manage their government, obviously will not be good.

If the government is ruled by people like this, aka gambling owners, of course gambling will widen everywhere and of course it will be detrimental to the people of the country itself, as we know that being a gambler cannot always improve our existing economy if politicians are given the opportunity and he is a gambling owner, I'm sure it will have an impact on the country's economy later.
It depends on the government's attitude when it sees a problem with candidates owning a gambling business and using funds from that gambling business. But so far, that's what has happened in many places and the government also doesn't act decisively on it and it seems the government just ignores it.

If these regulations can be implemented properly, business owners who become candidates must be able to work for the people if people choose them and think about what is best for their people. So that they don't only think about accumulating wealth from their positions. I am worried that if the candidate is elected as a government person, the people will not get the welfare they promised during the campaign.

Not just in the Philippines, it happens in many countries. Almost all of those in the 3rd world countries are having these issues where politicians are involved in shady businesses. There is just nothing that can force politicians to comply with regulations or they may find ways to use someone's name to operate a shady business. In my country, the known drug dealers are the ones who lead the town. And people do nothing as they are powerful enough to kill radio critics in mid-day.


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April 27, 2023, 09:55:42 AM
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Everything depends on a country whether gambling is a prohibited activity there or not.
If gambling in that country has a legal business permit law and there are no restrictions, then what the politician is doing is not a crime because he is in business to get some money.
Naturally, if he decided to take fair play in the gambling business so he could raise money to win in an election because the gambling business is a business with huge profits.
So the conclusion is that whatever business is done by politicians who are candidates in elections, if there is no prohibition on their business, then it is not a crime or mistake and we can also see that there are lots of government figures who take a fair in the gambling business in the country.

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April 27, 2023, 09:00:22 PM
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Politicians have their hands in everything, nothing can happen without them. I guess in some developed countries there are some rules and regulations about "conflict of interest" in this matter, and maybe even more important those rules and regulations are applied. In my country, this is shady as it can be... gambling is on the up-trend, casinos are almost everywhere, and they are generating a lot of income. There are rules and regulations, but there are tricks on how to avoid them as well. It's especially easy with the help of corrupted institutions that stay blind to whatever happens.
In politically corrupt countries, there is nothing that can't be done especially if one has money, and politicians have a lot of that since there is corruption in almost everything that they have their hands in and they get their part from everything. That is the reason why there are basically no rules and regulations for politicians in such countries.

I'm not sure about how things work in developed countries but that is what happens in third-world or developing countries, and the reason why these countries don't become developed is basically the extreme level of corruption.

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I think the government should have a core rule to play in all the business sections, matterless of whether it's the gambling or not.
 It only becomes chaotic when the are tryna infuse some partially robbed cash or impose a certain wage to be paid, with the threat that the defaulter gets impounded....but that ofcourse won't begin in a twinkle of an eye,.. it's a gradual process.
Again, that hasn't given them the right to bug too much into anyone's private affairs; on the other hand, you should Know that anything that's done glutly, ends up becoming a problem.... So I'll say, it's enough reasons for them to curtail, atleast...

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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

I do think that the country must have specific laws prohibiting the engagement of any running candidate in gambling.

E-sabong has been an issue in the country as many people have illegally operated this business without any license from the government. In addition, a politician must lead an example to the public by showing that they do not flaunt any of their richness. Since Teves admitted that he engaged in such activity before the country prohibited it, then I guess he is safe from such act.

Remember that ex post facto laws cannot be implemented to make him liable for the acts he had done in the past in which no law prohibited it.

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April 28, 2023, 12:30:13 AM
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In politically corrupt countries, there is nothing that can't be done especially if one has money, and politicians have a lot of that since there is corruption in almost everything that they have their hands in and they get their part from everything. That is the reason why there are basically no rules and regulations for politicians in such countries.

For countries like that, there needs to be more external pressure from other countries.
The world must always recognize and praise countries that have clean, democratic and corruption-free elections.
However, forced elections or elected with dirty money must always be repressed by other countries, imposing sanctions.
Unfortunately in the short term it is the population that will suffer the most, but with time these politicians will begin to realize that they need to be more honest in order to conquer their space in the world.

Gambling needs to be well regulated in all countries to serve as entertainment for the population and not to "feed" dishonest politicians.

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