Politicians behind the development of gambling platform

[EarnOnVictor]

[....]Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling,

It should be fine as long as it is legally operating in the country with complete papers. Why single out gambling by the way? We all know that many politicians enrich themselves in different ways and that includes though their personal investments. If you would prohibit politician businesses that related to gambling then why not just have a rule that they shouldn't own any business?

I guess if politicians will also be prohibited from owning businesses aside from gambling, isn’t it too unfair and hard on their part? Probably, there will be no politicians to run again in the election if that’s the case. My own take on this is that as long as those politicians are owning not illegal businesses, then they have all the right to continue their business operations and even expand it if they wish to. And I don’t think the government would adopt this kind of law as most of the highly elected government officials are already owning some businesses before they take part on politics.

There is no doubt that politicians could be a gambler or be using casinos to launder money as it is in many other businesses including banks. But it doesn't sound well that politicians are behind the development of gambling, that's just nonsense to me. The casino is an establishment, anyone can open it and anyone can run or patronise it, so it should not be tagged as if it thrives due to politicians.

It's even difficult these days in some countries to launder money through casinos since the beam of the government is strongly on them. I believe that people venture mostly into casinos due to the less stress and management in it and the high profits that could be wired in favour of the house, not because of some selected class.

[Casdinyard]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

Personally, I have no qualms if a candidate got his funds from gambling, it’s really costly to run for candidacy, let alone in one of the scummiest place too (government-wise). I’ll have a problem however, if the candidacy entails using funds gained from corruption and stealing, coz then it would mean that the funds arwn’t gained from legal means yeah? It’s also the same story with what rhey will do with the funds. Vote buying, actively bribing election personnel to hack the system and give them an unfair advantage against their opponents, among other negative things are just abhorrent and are inexcusable in my book.

As for this guy, further investigation may be required to see if has to be incarcerated or something.

[Tumanggor]

After all, gambling has a large market share, so it's no wonder that many politicians have side businesses such as casinos or nightclubs

But it should not be open to the public, if I'm a politician I would not think of openly admitting I'm running one because it will ruin my credibility as a public servant, especially for new politicians, and there's always a perception that politicians will use their political power to advance or cover up any misbehavior of their platform, like if there are complaints on their platform, they will bribe investigators and prosecutors because, in the first place, the politicians like senators are the ones who allocate funding on different government agencies.

but what has happened so far? do the majority of elected politicians where you live have a dirty business? if so then the problem lies with your voters, why do voters choose dirty politicians to serve in government?

every state official must have a clean history and that is true but the power of money is in every election, the casino business has a fast cash cycle and it is liked by many people, especially officials who always need money for campaign funds

[Finestream]

Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

It is illegal by law for a government official to own a gambling business or to gamble in any gambling places. But it doesn't stop that, they can point someone say from family to manage that gambling business instead of them to by pass the law as easy as that
Also, as long as e-sabong or any gambling is considered as a legal business, and no lawmakers amend that law nothing will happened.

Politicians can own a gambling business to get funds used for campaigns.

No, it's not allowed and its illegal, but they can easily bypass it.

Government officials are strictly not allowed to gamble, so owning a gambling business is strictly prohibited. However, I believe it’s true that they can simply put someone into it to manage the business but still the real owner is the politician itself and all the profits should still go to him. This is a common strategy for all politicians owning a gambling business, since they are expected to uphold the laws and become role models to the citizens.

[hyudien]

but what has happened so far? do the majority of elected politicians where you live have a dirty business? if so then the problem lies with your voters, why do voters choose dirty politicians to serve in government?

every state official must have a clean history and that is true but the power of money is in every election, the casino business has a fast cash cycle and it is liked by many people, especially officials who always need money for campaign funds

In my country politicians or government officials can easily step in and control everything behind the scenes. Recently there was a case that shocked the public because of the involvement of a police chief who turned out to be the brains behind online gambling casinos. The reason is that it started with the murder case that he committed, which opened up all the successive disgrace, problem after problem, which began to be uncovered, which linked him as an insider in controlling various online gambling sites based on the findings of evidence files and data taken by the investigators.

So it's not the least that this is against the rules of government officials. But I think it's back to the individual, not to focus on the rules. They are free to control anything because access to achieve it is made easier and they take advantage of the situation to fulfill their personal interests. Politicians are still politicians who can never be trusted.

[Huppercase]

[....]Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling,

It should be fine as long as it is legally operating in the country with complete papers. Why single out gambling by the way? We all know that many politicians enrich themselves in different ways and that includes though their personal investments. If you would prohibit politician businesses that related to gambling then why not just have a rule that they shouldn't own any business?

I guess if politicians will also be prohibited from owning businesses aside from gambling, isn’t it too unfair and hard on their part? Probably, there will be no politicians to run again in the election if that’s the case. My own take on this is that as long as those politicians are owning not illegal businesses, then they have all the right to continue their business operations and even expand it if they wish to. And I don’t think the government would adopt this kind of law as most of the highly elected government officials are already owning some businesses before they take part on politics.

Why rule out people for what they wish to have simply because of their positions in government, I don't blame people when they have negativity towards the politicians because I think they are just common people like us that are called to the office to serve the people and they have a payroll but their greed with exposure to wealth result to stealing and that is why people always see them as dirty and corrupt group, only a few of them are sometimes excluded as a clean person. The gambling business is a lucrative government and everyone should be allowed to participate so far they pay their taxes to the government and they don't involve themself in money laundry, there shouldn't be a law that could limit people from any investment.

[passwordnow]

It should be that no politician should get involved with gambling be it as a gambler or as an operator or businessman that focuses on it. That goes against the rule of law that they're lawmakers and they can make laws favoring their business which is all about gambling that can give them even incentives instead of punishments. This should go with their principles and while there's really a big tax that comes from the gambling industry, let it be alone managed by those that have no political interest.

[Chikito]

Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

I think other governments can't avoid that situation because of political costs, So what they can do is watch closely the money transactions. And I think, the Senate also can't make the rule suddenly to avoid that because that is the fast way to cover the political costs, so maybe that method just not done by 1 person, but by the community which is most likely used too by government officials, senate and political parties. If want to be fair, make a rule to legal it all gambling, and all money from gambling can be used for campaigns

[QueenVera]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

in my country even though gambling is illegal, there are also reports that many officials have gambling businesses but are operated in countries such as Vietnam and Cambodia

After all, gambling has a large market share, so it's no wonder that many politicians have side businesses such as casinos or nightclubs

Well we all know that we've  got ot of underdogs in the industry who are  constantly  cheating the common man and I've heard several news about politicians and government officials getting involved in gambling  mostly in Asian countries and at some point, I've always known Asians as one of the greater number of tye population who embraces gambling.
Whatever thencade might be, we all want to make profits but I'm sure of the major reason why I don't want or agree that politicians shouldn't get involved  in gambling so as not to bet any attempt to wanting to loot national  funds through casinos and you'll agree with me that if they own the casino, it will be more easier tooot money through their platforms.

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Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

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The government should have imposed strict regulations on candidates who will advance in elections to prevent these individuals from being able to occupy parliamentary/leadership seats which will pave the way for them to operate their gambling or other dirty businesses. What's more, I know that cockfighting is not very good, where cocks are forced to fight and some even die. This is not justified and everyone involved in it should be jailed and blacklisted from elections.

[Hispo]

It should be that no politician should get involved with gambling be it as a gambler or as an operator or businessman that focuses on it. That goes against the rule of law that they're lawmakers and they can make laws favoring their business which is all about gambling that can give them even incentives instead of punishments. This should go with their principles and while there's really a big tax that comes from the gambling industry, let it be alone managed by those that have no political interest.

I mostly agree on your post. But if we want to have a free and fair society where all people have the same rights, then it would not be fair for politicians to be forbidden to gamble.

I am okey with them doing whatever they want with their own money that they have earned through their job as politicians, however, they should be closely audited and in case some of them show any signal of becoming a person with addiction for gambling they should be isolated from the public treasury immediately and their political power, so they would not be able to abuse it to get more money to gamble.


Gambling is a question of civil liberties, in my humble opinion. 

[passwordnow]

It should be that no politician should get involved with gambling be it as a gambler or as an operator or businessman that focuses on it. That goes against the rule of law that they're lawmakers and they can make laws favoring their business which is all about gambling that can give them even incentives instead of punishments. This should go with their principles and while there's really a big tax that comes from the gambling industry, let it be alone managed by those that have no political interest.

I mostly agree on your post. But if we want to have a free and fair society where all people have the same rights, then it would not be fair for politicians to be forbidden to gamble.

I am okey with them doing whatever they want with their own money that they have earned through their job as politicians, however, they should be closely audited and in case some of them show any signal of becoming a person with addiction for gambling they should be isolated from the public treasury immediately and their political power, so they would not be able to abuse it to get more money to gamble.


Gambling is a question of civil liberties, in my humble opinion. 

I agree about auditing them but being a public servant, there will be critics that will be all eyes on them and that's why if they're already in the public post, they should halt or at least don't get involved with anything related to gambling even if it's their livelihood.
But in developing countries, we'll see politicians like them to just sworn that they'll avoid gambling and stop their business or won't get a touch of it. And, they're all just words and talk is cheap. Nothing wrong if they're done being a public servant but while they're still on their duty, it should be avoided by them.

[Kemarit]

It should be that no politician should get involved with gambling be it as a gambler or as an operator or businessman that focuses on it. That goes against the rule of law that they're lawmakers and they can make laws favoring their business which is all about gambling that can give them even incentives instead of punishments. This should go with their principles and while there's really a big tax that comes from the gambling industry, let it be alone managed by those that have no political interest.

I mostly agree on your post. But if we want to have a free and fair society where all people have the same rights, then it would not be fair for politicians to be forbidden to gamble.

I am okey with them doing whatever they want with their own money that they have earned through their job as politicians, however, they should be closely audited and in case some of them show any signal of becoming a person with addiction for gambling they should be isolated from the public treasury immediately and their political power, so they would not be able to abuse it to get more money to gamble.


Gambling is a question of civil liberties, in my humble opinion. 

I agree about auditing them but being a public servant, there will be critics that will be all eyes on them and that's why if they're already in the public post, they should halt or at least don't get involved with anything related to gambling even if it's their livelihood.
But in developing countries, we'll see politicians like them to just sworn that they'll avoid gambling and stop their business or won't get a touch of it. And, they're all just words and talk is cheap. Nothing wrong if they're done being a public servant but while they're still on their duty, it should be avoided by them.

That is the keyword there "public" servant, so everything you do, all eyes is going to be on you, so whether positive or negative, there are ways that your enemies can destroy you like if they found out that you are one of the operators or behind the development of gambling platform and very instrumental on the proliferation of it. So for me, if you are elected by the public, it's better to stay away from that kind of perception, just do your job as a public servant and not involved yourself in gambling, IMHO.

[molsewid]

I mostly agree on your post. But if we want to have a free and fair society where all people have the same rights, then it would not be fair for politicians to be forbidden to gamble.

I am okey with them doing whatever they want with their own money that they have earned through their job as politicians, however, they should be closely audited and in case some of them show any signal of becoming a person with addiction for gambling they should be isolated from the public treasury immediately and their political power, so they would not be able to abuse it to get more money to gamble.


Gambling is a question of civil liberties, in my humble opinion. 

I agree, but if they are already audited and no anomaly has seen, they are clean and don't have bad thing with regards to their taxes I think there's no problem at that I just needed to be sure that the person who will make an audit to them is proven fair and doesn't have any past accusations as well there are many people in our government who has a hidden wealth in gambling that's one of the problem in our government.

[Slow death]

It should be that no politician should get involved with gambling be it as a gambler or as an operator or businessman that focuses on it. That goes against the rule of law that they're lawmakers and they can make laws favoring their business which is all about gambling that can give them even incentives instead of punishments. This should go with their principles and while there's really a big tax that comes from the gambling industry, let it be alone managed by those that have no political interest.

I mostly agree on your post. But if we want to have a free and fair society where all people have the same rights, then it would not be fair for politicians to be forbidden to gamble.

I am okey with them doing whatever they want with their own money that they have earned through their job as politicians, however, they should be closely audited and in case some of them show any signal of becoming a person with addiction for gambling they should be isolated from the public treasury immediately and their political power, so they would not be able to abuse it to get more money to gamble.


Gambling is a question of civil liberties, in my humble opinion.

unfortunately things are not that simple, what has happened is the following:

Party Z politician creates a casino. his party governs the country, he does not pay taxes and does not declare all his assets as required by law in many countries, so he launders money and shares the profits with some members of the government and his political party, when some police decide to investigate the casino, he soon talks to the president of the country and the minister of security and they fire the policeman on the same day, the courts are blind and dumb, they pretend that they are not seeing anything, most of the party members his politician play in his casino

this is part of the scheme to make it appear that his casino has many customers and the money he has comes from the casino's profit, when in fact the casino has the objective of laundering the money from corruption and drug sales, when some newspaper suspects of something and publishes these suspicions, the owner of the casino hires an auditing company that is linked to a member of his political party, sometimes they even accept companies outside the country, but when the foreign auditing company arrives in the country, they offer high bribes and the auditing company presents a report that says the casino is clean, fair and has no involvement with corruption and drugs and everyone outside the country believes it and that's it, matter closed

[TimeTeller]

I mostly agree on your post. But if we want to have a free and fair society where all people have the same rights, then it would not be fair for politicians to be forbidden to gamble.

I am okey with them doing whatever they want with their own money that they have earned through their job as politicians, however, they should be closely audited and in case some of them show any signal of becoming a person with addiction for gambling they should be isolated from the public treasury immediately and their political power, so they would not be able to abuse it to get more money to gamble.


Gambling is a question of civil liberties, in my humble opinion.  

I agree, but if they are already audited and no anomaly has seen, they are clean and don't have bad thing with regards to their taxes I think there's no problem at that I just needed to be sure that the person who will make an audit to them is proven fair and doesn't have any past accusations as well there are many people in our government who has a hidden wealth in gambling that's one of the problem in our government.

That is the dilemma in the situation, we don't know how the people involve will be honest about their jobs.
Because if you are in a corrupt country, those who will audit can be bribe and report only what they want to see by the public.
They will resort to the under the table practice because they want to earn money also for themselves.
As much as possible, politicians should not dip their hands on gambling. Just to eradicate the thought of fraudulent transactions happening during their term.
Some of them have ulterior motives why they go in politics and at the same time in gambling, to protect their personal interests.

[PX-Z]

It should be that no politician should get involved with gambling be it as a gambler or as an operator or businessman that focuses on it. That goes against the rule of law that they're lawmakers and they can make laws favoring their business which is all about gambling that can give them even incentives instead of punishments. This should go with their principles and while there's really a big tax that comes from the gambling industry, let it be alone managed by those that have no political interest.

I mostly agree on your post. But if we want to have a free and fair society where all people have the same rights, then it would not be fair for politicians to be forbidden to gamble.

They are in public service so officials and even just government employees are expected to observe highest ethical work standards, it's on every government policy and laws. If they want to held on their hobby or these kind of things then better off on that position.
But since we are living on such corrupt and unfair world, laws and policies are only applicable on civilians and other lower class. Powerful people, government officials are exempted on this except if justice is served properly.

[Russlenat]

Politics is not gambling, if a politician want to get population or voters with gambling I think that people that may follow the politicians don't know their what, so I believe that for politics people get votes during election for some things they have already done or their reputation base on the what the person brought to the masses

Politicians can own a gambling business to get funds used for campaigns. And it's from the money from the illegal gambling business that they can pay people to vote for them, and that has been the case for a long time in many places. They think that money can buy people's votes and by making sweet promises to them that they will provide welfare for the people in the future. But once elected, they won't give it away and instead focus on growing their business to earn more money while in office.

Unfortunately, politicians in the Philippines can own a lot of businesses as much as they can, even if it means gambling businesses provided that they are legal and approved by the law. And no one could stop these politicians if they will use their profits from gambling to finance their campaign because in the first place, those businesses are theirs and not owned by other people. Furthermore, vote buying is not new anymore, but I always think it’s not the fault of the politicians alone if they win and make corruption later on, people should also be more responsible where to give their votes not because they are bought but because they believed that those politicians deserved to win because of their good reputation.

[Yamifoud]

It should be that no politician should get involved with gambling be it as a gambler or as an operator or businessman that focuses on it. That goes against the rule of law that they're lawmakers and they can make laws favoring their business which is all about gambling that can give them even incentives instead of punishments. This should go with their principles and while there's really a big tax that comes from the gambling industry, let it be alone managed by those that have no political interest.

This absolutely tells us people that despite money rules and laws implemented by the authority, it can't be perfectly serves to everyone or fair to all, some leaders we're still able to twist it. This is not new, many of the illegalities happen the country is ruled by these big leaders, who dare to stop them? Not the implementing bodies but just their competitors and they are killing each other.

I can say that there is no way to stop them. They use their position and make use of it as their power to take advantage of others that is why even if it was illegal, it is still operating because nobody will be able to stop it and nobody is willing to sacrifice their lives.

[livingfree]

That is the dilemma in the situation, we don't know how the people involve will be honest about their jobs.
Because if you are in a corrupt country, those who will audit can be bribe and report only what they want to see by the public.
They will resort to the under the table practice because they want to earn money also for themselves.
As much as possible, politicians should not dip their hands on gambling. Just to eradicate the thought of fraudulent transactions happening during their term.
Some of them have ulterior motives why they go in politics and at the same time in gambling, to protect their personal interests.

In corrupt countries or places, this is just like a normal business of a politician and not just that but many more.

That had made them popular to be in the public office and helped them take that spot because of their influence, power and mostly money. Even if there will be activitists that would say that it shouldn't be done by a public official.

You can't stop them if they're the ones in power and they're the ones who control things on those areas of their power. But in first world and developed countries, I guess there's nothing like this or if there are cases like this, they're only few cmiiw.