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April 26, 2023, 02:08:15 PM
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

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April 26, 2023, 02:18:20 PM
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Bad news always comes after a huge freaking pump which happened in 2020-21 when Bitcoin price went from $3k to $69k. That's more than 20x isn't it?
So when people make that shit ton of money, they start investing in shit projects which don't end up good and that leads to destruction which you might have seen in 2022.

Also, a 70% correction after a 2000% pump is inevitable. It's just whales playing the game, that affects clowns which leads to bad news.
I hope it makes sense now.
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April 26, 2023, 02:23:00 PM
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Have you considered that people just brushes of any negative news from regulators that comes out during a bullrun? I'm quite confident that there are articles that came out after halving but it's most likely that the noise coming from the hype is louder that any of these "ban" and lawsuits. I bet nobody cares about SEC and central banks when you see a lot of long green candles.

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April 26, 2023, 02:23:03 PM
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
That's the reality, right? it's not only about Bitcoin, but the other event is same.

Any articles never discuss about banks collapsed and it's not safe to hold your money in banks, but when Silicon Valley Bank was collapsed, there are many articles discuss about banks collapsed, advice anyone to hold that the maximum amount FDIC can insure and recommend to diversify to other investments.

When bear market happen, people will panic, so to make people more panic they're create FUD or bad news.

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April 26, 2023, 02:24:49 PM
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Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

Although I am not an old bitcoiner just like you have stated but I wouldn’t say that during bear market we experienced the bad things, but rather what I have observed is it is this bad news that actually bring up the bear market. When there’s restrictions or ban on cryptocurrency then many people just withdraw their funds and not the other way around. Also if an hack happens to all this big exchanges we experience bear period as more funds are withdrawn.

The government actually reduces there restrictions during fiat problems like bank bankruptcy or should I say they have seen how investors were patient during the bear market and they would just have to reduced the restrictions just to find a way to regulate it since people are moving towards it at a higher rate than in the bearish period

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April 26, 2023, 02:34:43 PM
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are you sure that in bear market, there are only bad news?
Are you sure that in bull market, there are only good news?

I bet on differ that in both markets, there are good and bad news. It's just in a bear market, bad news are considered as really bad but in bear market, bad news are easily ignored by people. The same for good news which is considered nothing in a bear market but is something like a nuclear bomb for Bitcoin explosion in a bull market.

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April 26, 2023, 02:47:56 PM
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Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

Yes. We are being played. I could come up with theories but that's the way it is. It is often the scared retailed investors who are the ones affected and regret selling.

It could be there really are big institutions behind every fud and bad news and they are in alliance with Gary Gensler and the government. And when scared investors had been dumping scaredly with what they hold, the institutions will come buying back after 3 years in time for having.

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what i realised years ago is this

bitcoin is in a constant bull.. you just need to stop looking at the small temporary drama to see it and stretch out the market over years to see the big picture

however there are time were bitcoin super calves(short young bull) then corrects
alot of people want to see what the new bottoms are so try everything to test the new bottoms. to ensure the new bottoms are stronger than the previous bottoms. as that then cements and shows support to prove the bull is still there to then push for the next calve

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yep when prices are on a dip people want to see how low it can go and realise that the low is higher than last cycles low
its all about testing bottoms to strengthen the new bottom at a new raised amount to previous cycle

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It's how the media wants to play the game. Of course, during bear markets, the media will sell all its news hard and make money off it. And during the bull runs, they would stay silent as possible because their news wouldn't be bought anyway. It's how they make money, and for sure they are paid to peddle those news hard when the situation aligns to whatever they're reporting. It's a common tactic they've been doing for years way before crypto is around.

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April 26, 2023, 03:02:34 PM
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Mainstream media manipulation is the key. Media manipulation is worst before than this especially when China is still involved in Bitcoin. It’s normal that news outlet create a news that follows the trend since that’s what most user wants to read due to current condition. It’s easier to sell a bad news on a chaotic market than bullish since no one will be interested to read it if it’s against the current market condition.

These news bad and good are existing in daily basis. Mainstream media just picking the specific news that related to the current thread to attract viewers. They are getting profit from traffic. I’m they will not gonna sell news that is not approprite to the trend.

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April 26, 2023, 03:12:10 PM
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose?

This isn't happening on purpose, since you're aware that bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency, which means nobody is in charge of these happenings, it's sone anyone cab take time to create on their own to either cause distractions or make people fear of missing out, when there's dip in bitcoin price, it's a normal thing that people begin to exercise some doubt or fear because they don't want to loose their entire asset to bitcoin bear, but once you have a clear understanding that bitcoin cannot go down no matter how dip it runs, you have just overcome all the fear that may comes around such period.

Are we been played?

No one plays each other in a decentralized network like bitcoin and blockchain technology, everything happening is plain and open, we trust the network immutability.



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April 26, 2023, 03:12:29 PM
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I have noticed that the media tends to remain silent when the market is experiencing a huge bull run. However, they tend to spread negative news that can affect Bitcoin's value when we are in a bear market. Some of this news could be FUD and lack credible sources.

The media's goal is to make investors stressed and worried about Bitcoin's situation. It's important not to fall for their manipulations and to stay strong and believe in Bitcoin. Sooner or later, Bitcoin's value will likely grow a lot in the future and HOLDERS will be millionairesIf they don't lose their seed phrase/private keys.
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April 26, 2023, 03:14:11 PM
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I do not think i have noticed what you are talking about, maybe i do not pay attention to the conventional media for BTC news, maybe you should do the same thing as well, i get things better when i read and discuss here in the forum, and i get the best information on things i need to know.

What i have noticed and i think is true is that in the bear market, many people do not buy BTC, i believe it is because there are too many weak hands and quick profit-only people, but when the bull run or pump begins or as the halving is coming, many of them go into fomo buying. That is why it is difficult for someone who does not understand what BTC is to use the dca strategy, that method is for strong hands and for people who know what BTC really is, weak hands only want to fomo buy and sell out as fast as they can. Market manipulations happens in the industry, but it does not affect BTC to much because of how decentralized it is and the lack of decisive control in the hands of anyone or group.

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Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

It depends on how you look at it, because even if what you say is true, then it is still somewhat "normal" for someone to play you once or maybe twice because you are young, naive and inexperienced. But it's not normal if you don't learn anything from it, and for anyone who turns on their brain a little, the rules of the "game" become clear - so instead of someone "playing" you, why not use the rules of the game to your advantage?

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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

Bitcoin does have a tendency to create perfect storms quite often. No idea if these events are orchestrated to help create these peaks and valleys or if it is just a side effect as people scramble to find explanations for the price movements. All that really matters is the four year cycle though. Zoom out, ignore the news, and stick to your plan.

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April 26, 2023, 03:33:11 PM
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Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
You do not sound stupid @OP,

Life is a series of events, Good sometimes and the other time events that are bad. Nobody is playing you, just know that at times when the positive events are more than the negative events, there will be a bull, and at other times when there are more negative events, the market will be affected.

When there are positive events, it doesn't mean that there is no negative event with the potential to affect the market that has happened, it just means that the events are not negative enough to overshadow the positive events, this goes the other way as well too.

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April 26, 2023, 03:52:09 PM
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It's how the media wants to play the game. Of course, during bear markets, the media will sell all its news hard and make money off it. And during the bull runs, they would stay silent as possible because their news wouldn't be bought anyway. It's how they make money, and for sure they are paid to peddle those news hard when the situation aligns to whatever they're reporting. It's a common tactic they've been doing for years way before crypto is around.
Yeah, exactly; no complicated games are involved; it's simple media journalism. Both during bear and bull markets, Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general become trending topics that even those who have no clue about them read about. I even caught my father a few months ago reading and commenting about an article about the so-called collapse of Bitcoin, when it reached a low of $18,000. My father is quite old, knows nothing about cryptocurrencies, and hardly does anything more complicated than browse the internet.

Do you see my point? Cryptocurrencies are easily become viral topic, because some people praise them while others hate them, and this is what journalists take advantage of, it's news that anybody would possibly read.

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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
The bear market is always full of manipulations that is why there are so many news that used to come in to make weak investors to sell there holdings.

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Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Anyhow it comes, we are not bothered by any fake news that could make us feel bad about the current situation of the market. As years go by, people especially investors are becoming resistance to many of this fud news that could make us sell our holdings or see the market for another wrong perspective.
We are becoming immune to news that are irrelevant in the market that is why make news that are being used to manipulate the market are not effective in the market again.









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April 26, 2023, 04:05:56 PM
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In my opinion, for all conditions bad news is more prevalent during bear markets and will not escape media coverage. My view During a bear market, investors may be more risk averse and therefore more sensitive to negative news. In addition, they may be more likely to report negative events during a bear market because they are perceived as more newsworthy. This can create a negative cycle reinforcing the bearish sentiment.

I think market cycles and media coverage are closely linked but in this moment i think  the investors are very smart now, I guess it's easy to see it is just a matter of correlating then adjusting the data to the facts only Although it is possible that some entities are deliberately manipulating the market through the spread of false information in order to avoid getting caught up in fear or hype and making investment decisions based on research and good analysis.

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Naturally speaking bad news spread more than good news so I will say this is also attached to bitcoin, many people will only hear about bitcoin when someone has lost its money because he or she could not hold till there is a bull and some will hear about it when profits making for the people that invested at its peak.

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