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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.
But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .
Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
It is certain that there are something like we being played with, but not in all cryptocurrencies. That is why there is what we term manipulation; it is used to deceive us. The bad news that follows the massive dump is the reason why the market price continues to fall. It doesn't mean they're trying to trick us; occasionally the news is delayed. But I agree that there are occurrences like that because there are also manipulations. Those projects who collapsed were frequently the only ones who made it fall because they had enormous holdings. They will sell their tokens if they believe they cannot withstand the pressures of the bear market. This is my view.
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April 27, 2023, 09:58:29 PM |
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are you sure that in bear market, there are only bad news? Are you sure that in bull market, there are only good news? I bet on differ that in both markets, there are good and bad news. It's just in a bear market, bad news are considered as really bad but in bear market, bad news are easily ignored by people. The same for good news which is considered nothing in a bear market but is something like a nuclear bomb for Bitcoin explosion in a bull market. If you need examples, see the Bitcoin obituaries If you fall believing that bear market is all about bad news, then you won’t really see the good news about having bear market. Just like if you are completely carried away by it’s bullish market, you will never realize that there are bad news that are associated in it. That’s why you will never enter the market perfectly and leave the market profitably because you fail to see the opportunities that is right there in front of you when the bearish market appears.
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April 27, 2023, 10:25:11 PM |
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I would also compare the fact that there are already a lot of newbies and weak hands in the current industry, and naturally they will react more to negative news and, at the first opportunity, they will try to either sell or fix their deposit. For growth, more money and investors are needed, and for a quick sale is just one click away, maybe that's why negative news affects the market more, at least it seems to me.
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April 27, 2023, 11:01:51 PM |
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.
But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .
Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
That's how the sharks manipulate the market, after they make a profit during the bull season, the down season will come, and that's when the sharks go shopping, and they always want to buy cheap. To me, the crypto market is a free market, so it will be manipulated, and every collapse is planned, and just waiting for the right day, they will trigger it all. Honestly, I would do the same if I had the money because it's the easiest way to make money in this market.
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April 28, 2023, 05:39:42 AM |
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I don't have much experience in this forum but I want to give an opinion that I know...
I think news about bear markets and bull markets will always be there, and they will form naturally and of course these 2 news have the potential to provide benefits for those who use them for example.
: during a bear market people who are interested can buy btc at a low price and of course have the potential to get big profits.
: during the bull market there was a lot of news that said the bull market was an advantage for bitcoin investors because if there was no news about the bull market of course the profits of btc investors would not get the maximum profit, but with the news, many people bought and in the end, many btc investors maximum profit.
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April 28, 2023, 06:47:36 AM |
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.
But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .
Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
You made a pretty accurate observation. Many media outlets do unfortunatelly care less about a certain depth of the information they provide in comparison with the strength of the headline and its click-potential. - It's a matter of simple psychology: When Bitcoin is mooning, reaching new highs never seen before, you can play into the FOMO and greed complex by portraying mistly positive news. - Vis versa, as soon as there is a 70% drop, just go with the malice-sentiment, fueling the "I told you so, it's all a scam" narrative. Generally negative news sell better/generate more clicks, and just looking at the stats, since much less people are in any way involved in Bitcoin still, you can catch a wider audience with crypto-negative news compared to crypto-positive news.
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April 28, 2023, 08:50:32 AM |
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.
But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .
Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
I guess you haven't heard of perma-bears? those individuals who are going to destroy bitcoin by creating FUD and negative things specially in a bear market to bring down the price because that's what they enjoy to be honest. So may say that we are being played, nevertheless the best thing to do is: a. don't listen to them, just think of it as something part of the market b. you said that you have been in 2 bear market, so by now you should know that it's better to accumulate in bear market then listening and be emotional everything you hear attacks on bitcoin.
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April 28, 2023, 12:09:28 PM |
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
We usually heard bad news circulating the internet during the bear season and have no idea how to stop it. But we miss seeing how whales benefit from this situation and it happens that they manipulate the market trying to capture panic sellers to sell their coins at cheap prices and then take advantage of the situation. I'd see how influential these whales are in the crypto space. It is to understand that whales participation has a huge impact on the market, the pump and dump scenarios, that are all possible here. Unfortunately, we never know exactly what is in their minds and so we need to keep updated and listen to the news as well.
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April 28, 2023, 12:31:22 PM |
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In my opinion, it is due to some force manipulating the market for profit. Cryptocurrencies are still a market that is manipulated rather than driven by supply and demand. If we pay attention, every time the bear market comes, we get more bad news and more market crashes than just bad news from the government or the regulatory agencies. In a bull market, I have never seen a crash like Luna or FTX, but it happens more often during a bear season. Almost everything is pre-calculated.
So true. We cannot close our eyes to the fact that in every field of investment there is always market manipulation. Not only in crypto but also in stock market and others. And we do have to get used to things like market manipulation. Even if we are observant, we can also follow the direction of market movements by taking advantage of any information circulating in the market (market sentiment). Even today many news media do not hesitate to spread fake news. for example, such as the latest news about fake news related to mt.gox's Wallet which is reported to have detected activity. when in fact there is no activity whatsoever in the mt.gox wallet. and many more fake news even this week.
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I can't argue that terrible news just only occurs in bear markets; it also occur during bull run periods . However, because more people are buying and holding during bull runs, poor news does not always have a significant impact on the market during these times. It is well known that many people in the cryptocurrency industry only hold Bitcoin and other altcoins for a brief period of time before selling them and leaving the market for a while before returning. As a result, these people typically target bull run periods to sell and also target bear market periods to buy.so in this cases it happens that any news against Bitcoin make many that don't hold for long time sell off all their cryptocurrency investment after their make some profits and create fear in other New investors mind and they also start selling and graduating we witness bear market.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
We usually heard bad news circulating the internet during the bear season and have no idea how to stop it. But we miss seeing how whales benefit from this situation and it happens that they manipulate the market trying to capture panic sellers to sell their coins at cheap prices and then take advantage of the situation. I'd see how influential these whales are in the crypto space. It is to understand that whales participation has a huge impact on the market, the pump and dump scenarios, that are all possible here. Unfortunately, we never know exactly what is in their minds and so we need to keep updated and listen to the news as well. The influence of the whale in the crypto space is still huge and making people panic. They can spread the news that will shock many people and finally, the whale will take advantage of the news. And when we read a negative story, we shouldn't panic and look for other news about what's happening. And if we can find another piece of news that's not true, we can adapt to what will happen to the market. Looking for more news can help us stay calm and use every moment that happens in the market so that it can be useful for us.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
We usually heard bad news circulating the internet during the bear season and have no idea how to stop it. But we miss seeing how whales benefit from this situation and it happens that they manipulate the market trying to capture panic sellers to sell their coins at cheap prices and then take advantage of the situation. I'd see how influential these whales are in the crypto space. It is to understand that whales participation has a huge impact on the market, the pump and dump scenarios, that are all possible here. Unfortunately, we never know exactly what is in their minds and so we need to keep updated and listen to the news as well. The influence of the whale in the crypto space is still huge and making people panic. They can spread the news that will shock many people and finally, the whale will take advantage of the news. And when we read a negative story, we shouldn't panic and look for other news about what's happening. And if we can find another piece of news that's not true, we can adapt to what will happen to the market. Looking for more news can help us stay calm and use every moment that happens in the market so that it can be useful for us. You are very correct, it's like what John McAfee did with the crypto market when he was still alive, the man so manipulated the market that it got to a point, no body listened or reacted to his tweet like they all used to.. I think Elon musk came and also did the same thing for a while, but maybe he came back to his senses after several popular influencers in the industry started criticising him which I think CZ of binance was one of his critics at the time. Bitcoin and the entire crypto market is still very young, and as well very fragile and easy to manipulate, I am still looking forward to a time when the Market will become matured enough, to the extent that bad news will have little to no effect on it.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
We usually heard bad news circulating the internet during the bear season and have no idea how to stop it. But we miss seeing how whales benefit from this situation and it happens that they manipulate the market trying to capture panic sellers to sell their coins at cheap prices and then take advantage of the situation. I'd see how influential these whales are in the crypto space. It is to understand that whales participation has a huge impact on the market, the pump and dump scenarios, that are all possible here. Unfortunately, we never know exactly what is in their minds and so we need to keep updated and listen to the news as well. The influence of the whale in the crypto space is still huge and making people panic. They can spread the news that will shock many people and finally, the whale will take advantage of the news. And when we read a negative story, we shouldn't panic and look for other news about what's happening. And if we can find another piece of news that's not true, we can adapt to what will happen to the market. Looking for more news can help us stay calm and use every moment that happens in the market so that it can be useful for us. Yes, it shouldn't be a one sided story and it's our own responsibility to know more about it rather than believing directly on what we see or read, we never know, that particular news might be a false statement made to make the investors panic especially the weak hands. We should not forget that bitcoin is also a business after all and these crypto whales will always find their own way how gain an advantage, now if we panic and believe right away, then it's safe to say that we already fell into their hands. We should remember that even the so-called crypto experts aren't really reliable because there's no such thing as crypto experts. We are all the same here, nobody know what happens next because we can only speculate on what would likely be the next situation in the market.
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April 28, 2023, 03:19:55 PM |
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I don't have much experience in this forum but I want to give an opinion that I know...
I think news about bear markets and bull markets will always be there, and they will form naturally and of course these 2 news have the potential to provide benefits for those who use them for example.
: during a bear market people who are interested can buy btc at a low price and of course have the potential to get big profits.
: during the bull market there was a lot of news that said the bull market was an advantage for bitcoin investors because if there was no news about the bull market of course the profits of btc investors would not get the maximum profit, but with the news, many people bought and in the end, many btc investors maximum profit.
Both pieces of news are good so far regarding the bull/bear market. Obviously, anyone interested in investing in Bitcoin will buy when the price is low and sell when it's high again. However, I believe that some news spreads FUDs which can lead investors to make wrong decisions such as selling their Bitcoin at a loss due to fear of losing more. Therefore, people should be careful of such news and should confirm sources before making any decisions that they may regret later.
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Don Pedro Dinero
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April 28, 2023, 03:25:33 PM |
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
If anything, it is the other way around. When there is a bear market, you hear more of the negative news because it affects the price negatively, and if there is any positive news it tends to be minimised or overshadowed by the negative news. In the bull market it is the other way around. There is also some confirmation bias. In the bear market people are pessimistic and when they hear negative news, they get more pessimistic and sell, and the other way around. ... I am still looking forward to a time when the Market will become matured enough, to the extent that bad news will have little to no effect on it.
I don't think that will ever come. That it affects less because the market is more volatile, yes, but think that news also moves the stock market, which is hundreds of years old.
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Asuspawer09
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April 28, 2023, 03:26:30 PM |
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.
But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .
Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
I mean on the Bull Run we also have some bad news I think and that cost a big correction or drop in the market price of Bitcoin. Yes for sure if the market price of Bitcoin was pumping for example it pump up to 50,000$ for sure we are going to see a lot of articles that are positive saying that Bitcoin will skyrocket etc. because that would just make sense you would really see that article if the market price was around 3000$ because no one would believed it at that point. Also, speculations from investors or famous people come out when the market price continues to increase. When the market price skyrockets we could actually expect a lot of manipulation on the market so for sure we see positive articles, but for sure we will also see negative news because that could easily create opportunity when the market price drop, it could easily create panic and investors might sell their holding.
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April 28, 2023, 03:43:52 PM |
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It may appear as though we are being played. But the reality is that, it might not really be true. Naturally, bad news affects everything negatively, not just crypto. Trades are been done by humans and they have emotions and this emotions have a lot of influence on the market.
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April 28, 2023, 07:51:23 PM |
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.
But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .
Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Not always the news but also with the audience. How you would react will simply reflect to your investment decision. Also, it is normal to hear bad news regarding this industry during bearish trend simply because expectations are broken such as higher market price but ending up with a huge dump. Demand is the bottomline and happened to be affected and determined by many factors in the first place, which should be an enough reason to say that we don't have the control over crypto prices. Same thing goes during uptrend. This is where FOMOs occur and plays a key role in this industry. If you would be caught offguard by the market behavior because of those news, a consequence would for sure, occur.
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April 28, 2023, 08:11:14 PM |
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.
But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .
Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
I guess you haven't heard of perma-bears? those individuals who are going to destroy bitcoin by creating FUD and negative things specially in a bear market to bring down the price because that's what they enjoy to be honest. Well there is a counter to these perma-bears, and obviously, it is the perma-bulls. This even out the situation but the strength of its influence depends on the market season. If the market is bullish, obviously perma-bears have the upper hand and vice versa when the market is bearish. So may say that we are being played, nevertheless the best thing to do is:
a. don't listen to them, just think of it as something part of the market b. you said that you have been in 2 bear market, so by now you should know that it's better to accumulate in bear market then listening and be emotional everything you hear attacks on bitcoin.
It is obvious that these two parties wanted to dominate the market and will do their best to influence it. The battle of these two dominant parties always ends up with the minnows being played according to their schemes. So yeah I agree with you that we should be knowledgeable about the market and never let these people play with our emotion.
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tjtonmoy
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April 28, 2023, 09:07:40 PM |
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FUDs are temporary. It does have some influence over the market, but it doesn't stay for long. And if those are fake news, then they will be uncovered soon and the influence will be gone. Why only in bear market? Because when people are already in fear, you just need a little bit more to ignite that to a higher level. You need a little bit of gasoline to make a fire burn high. But you can't start a fire with only just gasoline when there isn't any to start with.
This is all part of human psychology. This won't work when the market is in a bull run because only a few will trust those schemes. I have not been in crypto for that long, too. But this is what I think. Psychology is my major. So could tell from knowledge and a bit of experience.
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