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May 09, 2023, 06:10:24 AM |
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
It's hard to choose a winner since I'm not very familiar with them, and I won't be placing any bets, but I'm definitely going to watch this fight. Who knows, the winner here might unify with Donaire if he wins.
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May 09, 2023, 08:22:02 AM |
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link. It's hard to choose a winner since I'm not very familiar with them, and I won't be placing any bets, but I'm definitely going to watch this fight. Who knows, the winner here might unify with Donaire if he wins.
Just don't risk your money though, you can still enjoy without betting if you aren't sure.
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May 09, 2023, 02:53:23 PM |
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link. After losing to Inoue I don't think he is ready to face Donaire who although also lose his match against Inoue is still dangerous, so he goes the easy way by fighting the unpopular but dangerous Astrolabio who can perform better than Donaire because he is coming from winning streak, I'd like to see their face off and weigh in, which is going to happen next week. There's a big possibility that the 118 lbs will have two champions because this is a known territory of the Filipinos after Inoue conquer all the titles.
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May 10, 2023, 06:18:26 AM |
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link. After losing to Inoue I don't think he is ready to face Donaire who although also lose his match against Inoue is still dangerous, so he goes the easy way by fighting the unpopular but dangerous Astrolabio who can perform better than Donaire because he is coming from winning streak, I'd like to see their face off and weigh in, which is going to happen next week. There's a big possibility that the 118 lbs will have two champions because this is a known territory of the Filipinos after Inoue conquer all the titles. Yes, bantamweight has been a comfortable division for the most Filipino boxers except Manny Pacquiao as he managed to go up as far as welterweight division, and still brought his speed and power with him. John Riel Casimero came from this weight class too but it's just that his weight is not suitable anymore to stay, he could've been one of the title chaser if he's still at 118. Back to the fight, this is okay because Moloney thinks he can conquer this belt easily just because Vincent Astrolabio is not that known and doesn't have good names in his record. But just like what the poll here suggests, Astrolabio got a good chance to win and we might see another upset made by a Filipino boxer.
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May 10, 2023, 10:13:23 AM |
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link. After losing to Inoue I don't think he is ready to face Donaire who although also lose his match against Inoue is still dangerous, so he goes the easy way by fighting the unpopular but dangerous Astrolabio who can perform better than Donaire because he is coming from winning streak, I'd like to see their face off and weigh in, which is going to happen next week. There's a big possibility that the 118 lbs will have two champions because this is a known territory of the Filipinos after Inoue conquer all the titles. Asian in general, because this is where they really excel and compare to bigger weights wherein it was American and Mexicans. So in any case, it's good for Filipinos though, we have Astrolabio, and then Donaire and Gaballo if I'm not mistaken, campaigning in this division and has a chance as well for the belt in one of those divisions. Moloney shouldn't underestimate Astrolabio here, his records might not be good, but I think Vincent has learn from his early defeats that why he is not on the brink on winning a belt. It's not how you start, it's how you going to finished your career and for me Vincent is just about to his his peak.
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May 10, 2023, 10:50:09 AM |
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.
Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
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May 10, 2023, 11:52:08 AM |
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.
Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win. Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds.
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May 10, 2023, 12:00:41 PM |
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.
Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win. Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds. Yes, that's actually true, Moloney is the better boxer here and there's no doubt many gamblers will support him in this fight. It's either Filipinos who will bet for Astrolabio or those who want to take some risk. I am tailing the bet for Vincent Astrolabio here and there's no regret even if he loses. I want to take my chances for another Filipino to win a title and make them popular again in the world of boxing after the recent rest of no title holders for a year maybe, or more. Marlon Tapales already stepped up his game, I think Astrolabio will do so after he saw his fellow countryman win and I do believe that can boost his confidence to also do the same. This will not be an easy fight, Moloney avoided Donaire for a reason, but if Astrolabia keeps on being aggressive, he might snatch it thru UD or SD. Good luck to us.
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May 10, 2023, 12:19:32 PM |
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I am tailing the bet for Vincent Astrolabio here and there's no regret even if he loses.
This is what you call betting with emotions, hehe... Well, I guess I will also jump on the bandwagon and root for the Filipino to win, just to support the boxer. But what will happen if the Filipino wins and Donaire also wins his respective fight? Then we will have three Filipino champions in the same division: Donaire, Tapales, and Astrolabio.
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May 10, 2023, 01:37:18 PM |
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This is what you call betting with emotions, hehe... Well, I guess I will also jump on the bandwagon and root for the Filipino to win, just to support the boxer. But what will happen if the Filipino wins and Donaire also wins his respective fight? Then we will have three Filipino champions in the same division: Donaire, Tapales, and Astrolabio.
Donaire and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division, while Tapales is in super bantamweight division. Even Astrolabio will win in this fight, I don't think Donaire will want to fight with him because like you said both of them are from the same country that make not many people are interested to watch it. Donaire fight against Santiago isn't really clear too because there's no bookie add the fight and there's no upcoming news.
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May 10, 2023, 08:36:49 PM |
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.
Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win. Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds. Even the sports bookies are not that sure whom to root because both boxers got a fair chance in winning the vacant WBO belt but because of the fact that Moloney is much more known and fought the likes of Inoue, they listed him as the favorite. That just shows that Vincent here is not that behind, he just need to present what he is made of because this kind of opportunity may not be with him soon if he will not take advantage of this. Rooting for the Filipino boxer as well, going to take advantage of the line while he is still the underdog.
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May 10, 2023, 09:44:42 PM |
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.
Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win. Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds. We might have to admit it, Moloney on the record is the better boxer here, but as we can Astrolabio is slowly getting on that level. And he wouldn't be in this position if he hasn't had that inside of him, winning against tougher opponents to put him in the second rank behind Moloney. Thanks for the odds, so yes, it's just slight advantage for Moloney and for me, still a 50/50 fight and Vincent regardless of the odds could pull another upset and may become a champion, just saying. I might be biased, but I will put my money on Vincent here as he is a good and live underdog.
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May 10, 2023, 09:48:21 PM |
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.
Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win. Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds. We might have to admit it, Moloney on the record is the better boxer here, but as we can Astrolabio is slowly getting on that level. And he wouldn't be in this position if he hasn't had that inside of him, winning against tougher opponents to put him in the second rank behind Moloney. Thanks for the odds, so yes, it's just slight advantage for Moloney and for me, still a 50/50 fight and Vincent regardless of the odds could pull another upset and may become a champion, just saying. I might be biased, but I will put my money on Vincent here as he is a good and live underdog. The odds are actually not that far from each other. So it means, the bookies are considering the skills of Astrolabio. Because if Moloney is highly considered as the favorite, the odds will be like 1.0x, 1.1 or 1.2x odds. In any case, we will see the real action in couple of days and see if Astro really has something to offer. Remember, he is a Filipino boxer, and Filipino boxers are known to be one of the toughest inside the ring.
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May 10, 2023, 11:44:15 PM |
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I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. At first, we can assume that Moloney's camp backed out against Donaire due to ducking and instead chose an easy path by facing Astrolabio. But if we look deeply, it looks like it has something to do with promotional issues. Top Rank CEO Bob Arum who holds Moloney, I believed cut ties and avoid doing transactions with Probellum because of Daniel's Kinahan issue. Just my guess though. Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
He really should. We are talking about fighting against Jason Moloney here and for those who didn't know, he's the top contender and ranked 1st by the WBC in the Bantamweight division (118) before being dropped out. Upon entering the WBO ranking list, being ranked 1st right away.
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Thanks for the odds, so yes, it's just slight advantage for Moloney and for me, still a 50/50 fight and Vincent regardless of the odds could pull another upset and may become a champion, just saying. I might be biased, but I will put my money on Vincent here as he is a good and live underdog.
Vincent is one underdog that has a good chance of winning the title, his match against Rigondeaux is one good experience and is enough to prepare him for a championship fight, not to mention he is coming from a big win and an impressive one against Potapov, he has a good arsenal, he is good in going to the body his last fight against Potapov ended by giving him a good liver punch where Potapov cannot get up, I'm sure Vincent will employ the same strategy he'll go to the body to gain momentums
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May 11, 2023, 04:12:00 AM |
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On the contrary, it was Moloney who says that Vincent and his team thought that he is an easier fight for Astrolabio, as compare to Emmanuel Rodriguez and that's why they go that route.
Rodriguez beat Moloney before, and this according to Jason could be the reason why Vincent Astrolabio and his camp chooses him instead of Rodriguez. But in any case, Moloney is the slight favorite so it's not a easier fight for Vincent here. This fight is going to happen this weekend, so another good one store for us and we will see a new champion after this fight.
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May 12, 2023, 07:05:07 PM |
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On the contrary, it was Moloney who says that Vincent and his team thought that he is an easier fight for Astrolabio, as compare to Emmanuel Rodriguez and that's why they go that route.
Rodriguez beat Moloney before, and this according to Jason could be the reason why Vincent Astrolabio and his camp chooses him instead of Rodriguez. But in any case, Moloney is the slight favorite so it's not a easier fight for Vincent here. This fight is going to happen this weekend, so another good one store for us and we will see a new champion after this fight.
Well, these two certainly got their own reasons why they agreed on this fight because I don't really think that Moloney himself didn't see something from Astrolabio that he think he can take advantage and make his chances stronger. They can point their fingers as long as they want but the fact will not change, both of them will have to prove their existence in the industry and fight for the belt they wanted. Didn't notice that this fight is so near already, hope you guys already placed your bets. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 12, 2023, 07:50:06 PM |
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On the contrary, it was Moloney who says that Vincent and his team thought that he is an easier fight for Astrolabio, as compare to Emmanuel Rodriguez and that's why they go that route.
Rodriguez beat Moloney before, and this according to Jason could be the reason why Vincent Astrolabio and his camp chooses him instead of Rodriguez. But in any case, Moloney is the slight favorite so it's not a easier fight for Vincent here. This fight is going to happen this weekend, so another good one store for us and we will see a new champion after this fight.
Well, these two certainly got their own reasons why they agreed on this fight because I don't really think that Moloney himself didn't see something from Astrolabio that he think he can take advantage and make his chances stronger. They can point their fingers as long as they want but the fact will not change, both of them will have to prove their existence in the industry and fight for the belt they wanted. Didn't notice that this fight is so near already, hope you guys already placed your bets. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Very well said. It's not that Astrolabio is underestimating Moloney because of his defeat against Rodriguez and Inoue, they just view it as their own advantage because they have more fights to refer and to see which points they should consider to increase their winning chance compared to Moloney's position because his opponent, Astrolabio, have losses much earlier in his career so it will be hard for them to consider that as there will be some improvements along the years that have passed.
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May 12, 2023, 08:59:54 PM |
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More betting options for this fight have been posted just a day before their official weigh-in. Here are some: Stake.com | Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio Sportsbet.io | Jason Moloney vs Vincent AstrolabioFrom the slightest favorite, Jason Moloney now elevated being the Favorite. Don't know how the Moneyline odds adjusted from close one to quite distant. Both boxers already face off each other at the press conference and it seems Astrolabio is more on being cocky while Moloney is just calm lol. Later in the day, they will now meet up on their official weigh-in, and hopefully, no weight issues and problems will occur at both parties.
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May 12, 2023, 09:19:59 PM |
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It's good to see that there is a thread because this is a title fight. On paper, this fight is more appealing than Janibek's title defense, although I can understand that he is the main event because he is hyped as the next star from Kazakhstan since GGG is old already and might even not return to the ring. His opponent is also popular in Canada and is a KO artist, probably the next David Lemieux? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Back to the Astrolabio vs Moloney, I did not really expect this match to happen. Bob Arum perfectly made the right move canceling the previous Donaire fight since the guy is being handled by a promoter with issues from US authorities. We don't even know when old Donaire is fighting. But earlier, Astrolabio was thought to face another PBC fighter, ex-champ Emmanuel Rodriguez for the vacant IBF. It's surprising that he is now facing a Top Rank fighter, it would've been Raymart Gaballo facing Moloney tomorrow. Anyways, I hope Astrolabio can pull a big win. This is not an easy fight but he needs to win rounds convincingly as he is fighting against the event promoter's fighter. I think it was unnecessary to bring a kangaroo stuff toy and trash-talk Moloney because the Aussie is not intimidated and is unaffected. But it showed Astrolabio's confidence in this fight. But he should stay focused and stay away from unnecessary stunts once inside the ring because Moloney is not old Rigo and he carries a KO punch in both hands.
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