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May 05, 2023, 02:20:46 PM
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Everyone just ignore everything posted by Cudy89,
I am not defending Betcrypto.cr but I like how they handled this scam accusation so I registered an account and I plan to perform website testing in next few days.
My quick impressions, registration was fast and smooth, but some pages are opening slower than on other casinos.
There is interesting round betting for MMA, and I saw there are limits for maximum daily withdrawal is 2500 USD and weekly withdrawal 5000 USD.
Are there any withdrawal fees when I withdraw Bitcoin?

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May 05, 2023, 03:28:52 PM
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Everyone just ignore everything posted by Cudy89,
I am not defending Betcrypto.cr but I like how they handled this scam accusation so I registered an account and I plan to perform website testing in next few days.
My quick impressions, registration was fast and smooth, but some pages are opening slower than on other casinos.
There is interesting round betting for MMA, and I saw there are limits for maximum daily withdrawal is 2500 USD and weekly withdrawal 5000 USD.
Are there any withdrawal fees when I withdraw Bitcoin?

Hi thanks, yes, we are working on improving the performance of the site

We don't have withdrawal fees Smiley
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May 05, 2023, 03:41:27 PM
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From since he is so open why not send him to a mediator in the EU or better to a court.a legal point of view, there cannot be a restriction on registration from 1 IP address.
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May 05, 2023, 03:55:36 PM
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Sorry but we showed enough evidence and we are 100% sure you break our multiple account policy
 

Do you confiscate even the deposit amount? The user should get a refund of his deposit and just confiscate the profit on his balance. Most of the casino here don’t confiscate the original because that’s unfair for the user despite he violates your multiple account terms. It’s like robbing a thief with his money if you didn’t release original funds.

From since he is so open why not send him to a mediator in the EU or better to a court.a legal point of view, there cannot be a restriction on registration from 1 IP address.

Nahhh, The ToS of the casino will govern even if you send this to a mediator. It’s a waste of time and money to do such thing if there’s a valid evidence for multiple account.



@betcrypto.cr do the connected account use self affiliate or abuse bonus of your casino? Because having someone with same IP without abusing any of your bonus won’t harm the casino.

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May 05, 2023, 04:02:05 PM
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Sorry but we showed enough evidence and we are 100% sure you break our multiple account policy
 

Do you confiscate even the deposit amount? The user should get a refund of his deposit and just confiscate the profit on his balance. Most of the casino here don’t confiscate the original because that’s unfair for the user despite he violates your multiple account terms. It’s like robbing a thief with his money if you didn’t release original funds.

From since he is so open why not send him to a mediator in the EU or better to a court.a legal point of view, there cannot be a restriction on registration from 1 IP address.

Nahhh, The ToS of the casino will govern even if you send this to a mediator. It’s a waste of time and money to do such thing if there’s a valid evidence for multiple account.



@betcrypto.cr do the connected account use self affiliate or abuse bonus of your casino? Because having someone with same IP without abusing any of your bonus won’t harm the casino.

Yes we agree with you it's not worth the time and money also we are from Costa Rica not EU, the connected account abused our bonus system and got a 200% welcome bonus
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May 05, 2023, 04:06:35 PM
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Take the bonus amount and pay him the rest.this is the correct procedure.
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May 05, 2023, 04:16:07 PM
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Take the bonus amount and pay him the rest.this is the correct procedure.

He won with a first account $1581 we paid it and with the second he also won

Our site is KYC free if we let this go and after we reveal all the proofs he will try again and again.

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May 05, 2023, 04:47:31 PM
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Take the bonus amount and pay him the rest.this is the correct procedure.
No, the correct procedure here is confiscating the winnings and giving back only the deposit(that is what I think). Cudy89 has blatantly exploited the casino's welcome bonus. he created a scam accusation and created a story where he is the victim but has been proven to be a liar and a bonus abuser.

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May 05, 2023, 05:09:36 PM
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It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
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May 05, 2023, 05:24:30 PM
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It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.

You cheated and should be punished. A slap on the wrist isn't enough. That's just an invitation to try it again with a diferente method
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May 05, 2023, 05:49:12 PM
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It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
I just saw the scan accusation you made for betcrypto.cr and I'm convinced with the proofs that betcrypto showed to the public. You are bust in short. One reason why you lost money is you try to exploit a welcome bonus by doing a obvious move. Of course casino can detect it since they have the control and can view most of your information. They don't collect KYC and it's the reason I think they are more strict on multi accounting since the first line of defense on multi accounting is non existent. Proofs are solid and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is convinced that you are multi accounting. There's no point in fighting that this casino scammed you. I was shocked how aggressive that this casino solved their accusation and I think it's the correct way of dealing with exploiters.
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May 05, 2023, 10:44:16 PM
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Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.
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May 05, 2023, 10:53:32 PM
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Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.

We are going to be KYC free for ever

And about just taking the bonus money is not the right punishment, because if we do that, he is going to try again and again because he knows if we catch him he is getting his money back.

It wouldn't be fair to us to take just the bonus money. He tried to scam us, and if he had succeeded, he wouldn't have refunded anything to us.
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May 05, 2023, 11:20:03 PM
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It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
I just saw the scan accusation you made for betcrypto.cr and I'm convinced with the proofs that betcrypto showed to the public. You are bust in short. One reason why you lost money is you try to exploit a welcome bonus by doing a obvious move. Of course casino can detect it since they have the control and can view most of your information. They don't collect KYC and it's the reason I think they are more strict on multi accounting since the first line of defense on multi accounting is non existent. Proofs are solid and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is convinced that you are multi accounting. There's no point in fighting that this casino scammed you. I was shocked how aggressive that this casino solved their accusation and I think it's the correct way of dealing with exploiters.

He is asking now for only his seed money back because he knows he is at fault. However, he should have known this that he is doing wrong and if got caught, he will lose all of his money from both of his account.

Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

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May 06, 2023, 06:01:43 AM
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It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
still trying to paint yourself as a victim, I doubt you'll get sympathy. In the end, it's their decision whether to confiscate your deposit or not because you broke their rules, abused and profited from their welcome bonus, lied and tried to ruin their reputation.

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May 06, 2023, 06:22:50 AM
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Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.

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May 06, 2023, 06:25:08 AM
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Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.

Thanks Smiley well Cudy89 is not going to be able to withdraw from the second account we blacklisted it
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May 06, 2023, 06:41:09 AM
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It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.

You cheated and should be punished. A slap on the wrist isn't enough. That's just an invitation to try it again with a diferente method
Each casino has different penalties for cheating users and I would not buy into cheaters, but there are other casinos that get cheating users and then they take away the bonus money and return the user's deposit, but if you want to punish in your own way don't there is a problem with taking the deposit money, that is your rule that must be obeyed, but sometimes it is also true that if the user gets the money he will try one more time to cheat the bonus.

I also had no time to think why people are willing to commit fraudulent acts just to look for bonuses whereas if they just want to play, just play, why do they have to cheat and take advantage of bonuses or register for more than one account. sounds weird

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May 06, 2023, 07:20:31 AM
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Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.

Thanks Smiley well Cudy89 is not going to be able to withdraw from the second account we blacklisted it

Well, what if Cudy89 makes a new account , the third one and try to manipulate with bonus money ?
Also this is one case where this person got caught, there might be other who are creating multiple accounts and cheating the system ?

Since without KYC how do you have control over the scammers that they don't create multiple account. Do you monitor IP address of the account or what measure do you take ?

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May 06, 2023, 07:30:45 AM
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Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.

Thanks Smiley well Cudy89 is not going to be able to withdraw from the second account we blacklisted it

Well, what if Cudy89 makes a new account , the third one and try to manipulate with bonus money ?
Also this is one case where this person got caught, there might be other who are creating multiple accounts and cheating the system ?

Since without KYC how do you have control over the scammers that they don't create multiple account. Do you monitor IP address of the account or what measure do you take ?

Sadly we pause our welcome bonus system we are working on making it from 200% to 100% maybe this will discourage scammers

we do monitor IP address but it's hard because they can use VPNs we have our ways to detect multiple accounts we are not going to say how publicly, we did it with this user because we are new on the forum and we don't want to ruin our reputation

We hope there is not a next time but, next time we are going to share evidence only with a trusted forum member so we don't blow up how we can detect multiple accounts 
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