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December 21, 2023, 07:08:25 AM
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Have you ask yourself the reason why some civil servants like to establish a business or going into crypto trading, because the moment the salary is coming, there are many things that will be coming with that salary that will not make the salary to last more than two weeks before it will finish. If you use huge amount of capital to invest in Bitcoin and hold it like one year before you can sell, you will make more than what civil servants will make a year which many civil servants that joined Bitcoin few years ago can testify about that. I prefer, business or crypto trading because any income you make from the business or trading belong to you and nobody can sack you like the way they use to sack civil servants without any quarry from their Boss.

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December 21, 2023, 09:49:56 AM
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Have you ask yourself the reason why some civil servants like to establish a business or going into crypto trading, because the moment the salary is coming, there are many things that will be coming with that salary that will not make the salary to last more than two weeks before it will finish. If you use huge amount of capital to invest in Bitcoin and hold it like one year before you can sell, you will make more than what civil servants will make a year which many civil servants that joined Bitcoin few years ago can testify about that. I prefer, business or crypto trading because any income you make from the business or trading belong to you and nobody can sack you like the way they use to sack civil servants without any quarry from their Boss.
You have a great growth mindset. Because this kind of mindset is what is needed to be successful and more successful in the future. We must not be fixated on the salary we receive regularly, but we must start setting aside the salary we receive to use as capital that we can use to grow. Whether it's with trade or with other businesses. What is important is the part or field that we master. Because it is quite risky if we enter a field that we are not really good at. Because that will only put us at risk of losing capital due to losses. Likewise in trading. There's a lot to learn before we get into it.

I am also a person who chooses to be my own boss in the real world. By building a business and trading. Even though it's not a big business, I'm proud of the business we run. And I also have the thought of always looking for additional income to invest in risky investments like Bitcoin.
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December 21, 2023, 10:03:34 AM
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Of course, everyone is going to pick trading/business. I mean...the profit is worth it. To be honest, I never liked the idea of working for the government, so, being a civil servant was never an option for me. But, the reason I'm going to choose trading would be cause, the profit would motivate you to do better. It's not all about earning more, it's also about being more productive. "Your success totally depends on you" kind of job is totally what i'll prefer.
I really agree that the main thing is to like what we are going to do because that will provide its own motivation compared to being forced to because of needs that might be sought in other ways.Liking our work will certainly give us a special enthusiasm because it is in accordance with the intentions we really want, so there is a certain satisfaction that will encourage us to be more successful.

Business is certainly something that is very popular because it means that what we do can be controlled directly by ourselves compared to working in government, which will follow agreed-upon rules. But doing business, of course, requires adapting to trends that we can follow, and the main thing is that funds must be prepared carefully so that they don't stop in the middle of the road.

I think business will provide its own motivation for those who are going to do it, because big or small profits will be influenced by the desire to do it, and it must be appropriate. Finally, I really agree with you that success will completely depend on those of us who do it.​

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December 21, 2023, 01:23:31 PM
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Of course, everyone is going to pick trading/business. I mean...the profit is worth it. To be honest, I never liked the idea of working for the government, so, being a civil servant was never an option for me. But, the reason I'm going to choose trading would be cause, the profit would motivate you to do better. It's not all about earning more, it's also about being more productive. "Your success totally depends on you" kind of job is totally what i'll prefer.
I really agree that the main thing is to like what we are going to do because that will provide its own motivation compared to being forced to because of needs that might be sought in other ways.Liking our work will certainly give us a special enthusiasm because it is in accordance with the intentions we really want, so there is a certain satisfaction that will encourage us to be more successful.

Business is certainly something that is very popular because it means that what we do can be controlled directly by ourselves compared to working in government, which will follow agreed-upon rules. But doing business, of course, requires adapting to trends that we can follow, and the main thing is that funds must be prepared carefully so that they don't stop in the middle of the road.

I think business will provide its own motivation for those who are going to do it, because big or small profits will be influenced by the desire to do it, and it must be appropriate. Finally, I really agree with you that success will completely depend on those of us who do it.​
Just having desire isn't enough. We need a mix of resilience, strategy, and adaptability. Passion gets you going, but the never-ending drive to learn and grow is what keeps things going. Just think about it: every great business owner wasn't happy with their job; they were obsessed with making it better, adapting to new situations, and succeeding. That is the real secret sauce

Regarding business being a ship that steers itself, you're exactly right! We shouldn't sugarcoat it, though: this ship moves in rough water. You can't just follow trends; you have to be able to see them coming and lead them. And money? When they're gone, the business stops breathing. As the saying goes, businesses don't fail because they have bad ideas; they fail because they don't follow through on their plans and don't handle their money well. Take a deep breath before entering this area. In this gladiator fight, only the smartest, toughest, and most flexible people make it to the end. Are you ready for that challenge?

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December 21, 2023, 04:09:25 PM
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OP, you made it look as if trading gives money easily but that's the major thing, for me I prefer the income-based job and a business that I can be earning from no matter how small it is, this might enable me to diversify future, I am a kind of person that doesn't like doing a salary based job since it is among the options you listed, I chose it, I don't know much about trading, but no how it is been romanced by people I still believe that it's not an easy stuff, the risk is high too, I even prefer saving the money I earned from my job and investing it in bitcoin than trading unless in future I will be made to love it and learn more of it. I love business so much because it helps you to earn extra and strategize always for more.

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December 22, 2023, 07:05:34 AM
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Of course, everyone is going to pick trading/business. I mean...the profit is worth it. To be honest, I never liked the idea of working for the government, so, being a civil servant was never an option for me. But, the reason I'm going to choose trading would be cause, the profit would motivate you to do better. It's not all about earning more, it's also about being more productive. "Your success totally depends on you" kind of job is totally what i'll prefer.
I really agree that the main thing is to like what we are going to do because that will provide its own motivation compared to being forced to because of needs that might be sought in other ways.Liking our work will certainly give us a special enthusiasm because it is in accordance with the intentions we really want, so there is a certain satisfaction that will encourage us to be more successful.

Even though there are jobs that I don't like, I think I will continue to do them because I need money to survive. Indeed, some people may want a job that is equal to what they expect, but if they are already working but don't like their job, chances are they will stop working if they still have enough money and go back to looking for a job that suits what they want, but not with me who will continue to stay until I get a new job.

  because looking at the current situation, looking for or getting a job is very difficult, many people don't work and they want a job, so if you already get a job, it's better to just do it because everyone definitely has a desire, and in my opinion, if you get a job, it's better. It's good to do it without forcing yourself,  because if you force yourself normally the job won't be suitable for us, but vice versa, and if we can do the job we've got well, chances are we'll like the job we have.

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December 22, 2023, 07:45:48 AM
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Working as a civil servants have always been my thing, I work from Monday to Friday which to me is normal, I feel proud doing it until I started trading bitcoin.

Trading started making me see things differently, because I no longer wait for my monthly salary, now I earn money daily and week, due to the kind of large amount of money I make in trading I fell out of love for my civil service job, because the money is small  but it is still a decent salary.

Note: in trading I earn base on performance, but even though the market is too bad, I still earn a decent amount of money out of it in a month base on my level in trading.

My question is guys which do you prefer, a steady monthly salary which you know that no matter what, it must come once the month ends or a business/ trading/ any other thing which you can do that you earn base on performance and you have the capacity to earn ten fold of what a civil servants might earn if you are good at it, but there is also a possibility that you may have a bad day in the office which you may even incurred some loss.

Which do you prefer an why.

Civil servants aren't just about money. You'll gain social status in the community with a fixed monthly salary and a guaranteed pension and health insurance.
while trading there is no guarantee of consistent and large results. there are even times when you lose too in trading.

iam still prefer and always selecting civil servants.
Only a fool would leave a civil servant job for something uncertain.

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December 22, 2023, 07:51:58 AM
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i prefer to do business with income every month and use part of my income to invest in bitcoin, compared to trading and risk my money being lost in the market. because trading has risks and requires my time to analyze the market all the time just for profit, and i personally am not suitable for that. especially in trading, not every time you can get a profit from your trading and that would be risky for me who needs money for my various needs every month.

I agree with what you said, you can do both instead of just choosing one. It's better to have a wide range of knowledge than to just stick to one, we know that we can do it if we really have the courage. The only difference between us is that maybe I will also try trading because I already have a little knowledge about it.

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I treat every job with respect.  Just as it is possible to earn money from this forum, it is also possible to earn money through government and private jobs.  And in your case you get the money to invest in BTC from your job.  But for now the job is essential for you.  A government job means a stable income every now and then.  Again investing in BTC means daily income.  Two benefits of two jobs.  So I would say if someone wants to do both jobs at the same time, he should learn to balance, only then he will be able to benefit.


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December 22, 2023, 03:40:46 PM
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Working for person had never been my thing, I prefer running my business on my own, but in life you must have to serve to be served. You must have to work for someone to raise capital for your business aspirations.
Fine in business you might incure some losses at some point in time, but I really do prefer something that reward me base on performance, because I know that I can earn more.

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December 22, 2023, 04:11:17 PM
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I treat every job with respect.  Just as it is possible to earn money from this forum, it is also possible to earn money through government and private jobs.  And in your case you get the money to invest in BTC from your job.  But for now the job is essential for you.  A government job means a stable income every now and then.  Again investing in BTC means daily income.  Two benefits of two jobs.  So I would say if someone wants to do both jobs at the same time, he should learn to balance, only then he will be able to benefit.
What I have understand in the OP is that he made a huge profit in trading higher than his salary from his job and even when the market will turn back to bearish he can still manage to be profitable. The main purpose why we go to school is to learn and to have a better a job in the future, we go to our school for our future. Now, if you can be sure in your future like you don't worry for your daily needs, do you still like to go to school? Definitely not. If trading can sustain your daily needs then there's no point of staying in your job with an 8 hours of work.
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December 22, 2023, 05:51:21 PM
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Easy money should never be an option when it comes to lead a life. Easy money goes the way it comes. But a steady income is like a blessing. If you can calculate it correctly and make a good budget, you can easily lead your life with that amount of money. In trading however, there is no certainty that you will always make profit. You win some and you lose some in that process. Taking that as the one and only way of making money in life is foolish.

What I can suggest is that, whatever steady income you are making, make a budget from that with which you can invest, not trade, invest into Bitcoin by buying and holding. You have your steady income and you also have the privilege of Bitcoin investment. In Bitcoin holding you don't have to do much. All you do is buy and wait. Why not take the best of both worlds?
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December 22, 2023, 06:02:16 PM
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My question is guys which do you prefer, a steady monthly salary which you know that no matter what, it must come once the month ends or a business/ trading/ any other thing which you can do that you earn base on performance and you have the capacity to earn ten fold of what a civil servants might earn if you are good at it, but there is also a possibility that you may have a bad day in the office which you may even incurred some loss.

Which do you prefer an why.

Honestly, I admit that you are quite great at managing your finances, you are able to trade actively and also maintain your stable job in the real world, I'm sure it's not easy.
Before having a small family, I really liked opening my own business, but since I have a small family, I really want to have a stable income from a monthly salary, this is all to help my partner cover our monthly expenses, the past pandemic has really taught me to strive to have money at all times (whether it is savings - investments or a stable monthly salary)



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December 22, 2023, 07:44:36 PM
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Which do you prefer and why?
The thing that is favorable for me is not suitable for you because of the choice and it is subjective, it changes from person to person. Some people want a 9 to 5 job because they want a steady income every month and these types of people are very lazy as they do not want to change their life. Some people want business or trading and believe in daily payment as they know that they have the potential and energy to do something great and they decide to work for themselves, not for the other company or another job. In a job, you will work more than your salary and you can do anything for your self even a single day off and in your business or trading you are the boss you don't need permission and when you go the market you can buy things without asking the price and I think this the best thing that I love in trading.  There are many other pros and cons of the job as well as business or trading but for me, my own business or trading is good over job work from 9 to 5 and getting the salary at the end of the month, or it would not bad if I relate job with slavery
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i prefer to do business with income every month and use part of my income to invest in bitcoin, compared to trading and risk my money being lost in the market. because trading has risks and requires my time to analyze the market all the time just for profit, and i personally am not suitable for that. especially in trading, not every time you can get a profit from your trading and that would be risky for me who needs money for my various needs every month.

I agree with what you said, you can do both instead of just choosing one. It's better to have a wide range of knowledge than to just stick to one, we know that we can do it if we really have the courage. The only difference between us is that maybe I will also try trading because I already have a little knowledge about it.

I think so too, it would be good for us to have knowledge of not just one income, I myself prefer doing business, because doing business makes me know a lot of things, with the many interactions I have with many people, it gives me additional knowledge about things I don't know yet, and I think this is good because with business I also have real experience, I do it myself, I mean what happens with what I do in real life, not digitally. Meanwhile for trading,  I think it's a lot of understanding and learning, but business also requires knowledge. to carry it out, it's just that here I don't really understand trading, but now I'm learning a little about trading, because whatever is profitable for me, I myself will study it well so that I can generate profits which might also be good for me in the future.

I learned trading myself, I saw from the experience of many people who were successful because of trading, actually there was also a neighbor of mine who was successful with trading, but he didn't want to teach other people, because he himself said "I didn't get the learning for free  I pay for all learning about trading so you can make a profit." That's what he said but I applaud him for being able to prove it.

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First I will advice you is that you shouldn't be too fast to quit your job for trading because you are now earning from trading. Before you quit try to make other alternative because it is not idea for you to depend on trading and have no hope on anything that is generating money for you. In trading anything can happen that you don't know how long you will be stranded,  for now think of creating something else for income before making trading as your only job.

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My question is guys which do you prefer, a steady monthly salary which you know that no matter what, it must come once the month ends or a business/ trading/ any other thing which you can do that you earn base on performance and you have the capacity to earn ten fold of what a civil servants might earn if you are good at it, but there is also a possibility that you may have a bad day in the office which you may even incurred some loss.

Which do you prefer an why.

Honestly, I admit that you are quite great at managing your finances, you are able to trade actively and also maintain your stable job in the real world, I'm sure it's not easy.
Before having a small family, I really liked opening my own business, but since I have a small family, I really want to have a stable income from a monthly salary, this is all to help my partner cover our monthly expenses, the past pandemic has really taught me to strive to have money at all times (whether it is savings - investments or a stable monthly salary)
It is very difficult to manage finances, I myself have tried many times to be able to manage finances so that they are stable but up to now I have often failed.
Regarding the desire to have a business or a steady income, it all depends on your individual needs. If you already have a family, of course there are many things you are afraid of, so you want a job with a steady income so that it can meet your needs with certainty even though you are already limited.
However, there are also people who have different thoughts, they believe and believe in doing business with the desire to get more than that so they have to do many things and work harder, I think it's worth it and I like it more.



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December 24, 2023, 11:14:35 AM
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First I will advice you is that you shouldn't be too fast to quit your job for trading because you are now earning from trading. Before you quit try to make other alternative because it is not idea for you to depend on trading and have no hope on anything that is generating money for you. In trading anything can happen that you don't know how long you will be stranded,  for now think of creating something else for income before making trading as your only job.

Having a job and still continuing your trading is less risky but if you leave your job and totally become dependent on trading then it implies to the fact that you are doing wrong thing as job can continuesly gives you profit but with trading you cannot face winning situations all the time.

If you leave your job just for trading so when you loss money then neither you will have income nor you will be able to get profit from trading therefore Initiation of both trading and job should be done at same time. Trading is very risky so do your job instead of wasting money in trading but if you have knowledge then minimum amount should be paid for trading and give equal time to both trading and job as if you focus more on trading then a time will come when you will not be interested in job.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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First I will advice you is that you shouldn't be too fast to quit your job for trading because you are now earning from trading. Before you quit try to make other alternative because it is not idea for you to depend on trading and have no hope on anything that is generating money for you. In trading anything can happen that you don't know how long you will be stranded,  for now think of creating something else for income before making trading as your only job.
Does doesnt mean your trading you gonna make money from it , job is most preferred for me to earn money as hardest and the honest one , trading for me is just for side hastle and can't be focus n that coz you can't earn money without signal from other or good analysis so for me think outside the box always
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First I will advice you is that you shouldn't be too fast to quit your job for trading because you are now earning from trading. Before you quit try to make other alternative because it is not idea for you to depend on trading and have no hope on anything that is generating money for you. In trading anything can happen that you don't know how long you will be stranded,  for now think of creating something else for income before making trading as your only job.

Having a job and still continuing your trading is less risky but if you leave your job and totally become dependent on trading then it implies to the fact that you are doing wrong thing as job can continuesly gives you profit but with trading you cannot face winning situations all the time.

If you leave your job just for trading so when you loss money then neither you will have income nor you will be able to get profit from trading therefore Initiation of both trading and job should be done at same time. Trading is very risky so do your job instead of wasting money in trading but if you have knowledge then minimum amount should be paid for trading and give equal time to both trading and job as if you focus more on trading then a time will come when you will not be interested in job.

Some people doesn't afford to do the both, which is trading and having a job cause just imagine being stressed at work then you would get drained at thinking analysis, looking at the charts, etc. It is not really advisable to leave your job since it's the stable income you get to provide all of your needs, cause if you are trading as a newbie, you would still be learning and not everyday you would profit so it's still risky. You can invest at yourself by learning trading and starting at a small amount first, from that you could already tell which one you should choose and focus with to get the fully potential and reach higher profits. Still, you must sacrifice one in the end of the day cause it's too tiring doing both.

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