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April 30, 2023, 07:58:22 PM
Last edit: April 30, 2023, 08:26:40 PM by hosseinimr93
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Please take a look at the post history of Lattice Labs. The user got my attention after seeing his/her replies to some old topics and it seems that he/she is using AI for making the posts.
Lattice Labs made 42 posts just in 1 hour and 20 minutes and I think he/she should be banned.

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Thanks to moderators, all those 42 posts were removed. Lattice Labs's posts can be seen on ninjastic.space.

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April 30, 2023, 08:15:20 PM
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The fact that they're typing that many words and replying in under 2 minutes per post would make me feel its all copy paste from chat gpt. Usually takes longer than 2 minutes to reply to a post and find another post that interest you. Has the forum admin said report someone for replying with AI answers?

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April 30, 2023, 08:30:58 PM
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It looks like the mods have deleted most of his posts, but yeah, I have just seen one post and this sure is a ChatGPT like response. I asked ChatGPT the same question, and it actually repeats all the points listed when I regenerated the responses.

This response in particular

Bitcoin, a decentralized digital currency, can be useful for the youth in various ways. Here are some reasons why:

Financial inclusion: Bitcoin allows anyone with an internet connection to participate in the global economy, without the need for a traditional bank account. This can be particularly useful for the youth who may not have access to traditional banking services, such as those who are unbanked or underbanked.
Low fees: Bitcoin transactions have significantly lower fees compared to traditional financial transactions. This can be beneficial for the youth who may not have much money to spare for high transaction fees.
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I think the forum doesn't ban someone who uses it once or a few times. They probably just delete the posts but I have seen some users get banned perhaps after spamming too much and getting warned

Lattice Labs spams so much about their project, and this is not the first time I am coming across this username. Right now he has 46 deleted posts out of a total of 69 posts.

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April 30, 2023, 08:34:30 PM
Last edit: April 30, 2023, 08:45:13 PM by hosseinimr93
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Has the forum admin said report someone for replying with AI answers?
The user can be banned due to spamming as well. I reported one of the posts with a comment including a link to this topic to see what will happen.
The last 42 posts of Lattice Labs were deleted. The user may have been banned temporarily.

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May 01, 2023, 11:44:02 AM
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The fact that they're typing that many words and replying in under 2 minutes per post would make me feel its all copy paste from chat gpt. Usually takes longer than 2 minutes to reply to a post and find another post that interest you. Has the forum admin said report someone for replying with AI answers?

If we talk about 1-3 minutes taken to write a post, then what do you think about this user? He is really fast! And let's compare a post he made about two months ago with one of the most recent (both are below). Huge progress!

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May 01, 2023, 12:03:21 PM
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It's confirmed that Lattice Labs is using AI to create a post to promote their platform for search engine optimation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450705.msg62177197#msg62177197

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AI-generated topic
It is highly likely that the OP of this topic has created it entirely using AI such as ChatGPT. This has been verified by @NotATether who has ran the content through multiple AI detector websites. Therefore, it is recommended that this topic is locked, as no further constructive discussion can be added to this topic.

They are trying to manipulate the search engine to establish the reputation of Lattice Labs and one of its developers
Bijan Burnard, this Bijan Burnard has two scam accusations in the scam section

Bijan Burnard - Scam in Monaco, Montecarlo, Spain, UK, Dubai
   
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Account Lattice Labs was called out to address those issues, but he ignore it, his purpose here is to post spams to build Lattice Labs' reputation.



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May 01, 2023, 12:20:53 PM
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Please take a look at the post history of Lattice Labs. The user got my attention after seeing his/her replies to some old topics and it seems that he/she is using AI for making the posts.
Lattice Labs made 42 posts just in 1 hour and 20 minutes and I think he/she should be banned.

Maybe his experience will be a lesson for others as well to see and learn from before their own turn comes because they can not get away with such, to the best of my ability i think the use of AI should also be rated thesame offence as plagiarism because non could have achieved making such number of posts in just an hour 20 minutes without having something behind it, such post could the the ones with too much content and offers less meaning or quality on their posts. AI use is just a way to byepass or cheat by making excessive post otherwise known as spamming.

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I can also confirm that some of the topics are AI-generated and am deploying JARVIS against them accordingly (as robelneo post says).

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Please take a look at the post history of Lattice Labs. The user got my attention after seeing his/her replies to some old topics and it seems that he/she is using AI for making the posts.
Lattice Labs made 42 posts just in 1 hour and 20 minutes and I think he/she should be banned.
This should be consider as spamming and deserves a ban in my opinion.
You don't even have to check if his posts are generated by AI or not, it's obvious they are and he didn't even try to hide that.
I am sure he is not the only member like this, but this should be somehow included in updated forum rules, to reduce spam in future.

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This should be consider as spamming and deserves a ban in my opinion.
You don't even have to check if his posts are generated by AI or not, it's obvious they are and he didn't even try to hide that.
I am sure he is not the only member like this, but this should be somehow included in updated forum rules, to reduce spam in future.


These AIs' are trending now every search engine company has one, and since they have a market for this we will see a lot of A, a lot of AI users, and many more posts or threads like this, what I'm afraid of since they are offering premium services for these AI usages, there'll come a time AI where all tools to trace AI usage will be undetectable, hopefully, it will not come.
We will see many more threads like this, and it will become a challenge for members and the team to combat the usage of these AIs' on this forum.

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May 02, 2023, 02:52:12 PM
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Please take a look at the post history of Lattice Labs. The user got my attention after seeing his/her replies to some old topics and it seems that he/she is using AI for making the posts.
Lattice Labs made 42 posts just in 1 hour and 20 minutes and I think he/she should be banned.

Edit:
Thanks to moderators, all those 42 posts were removed. Lattice Labs's posts can be seen on ninjastic.space.
looking at the history of the posts it made, i'm pretty sure it used AI to make long posts like that, besides that there are also other accounts that i see that have the same style (Blockchainer23) it's possible that those accounts used AI too.

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Sorry, but how is this user not banned?

Having 42 posts in an hour deleted is bad enough, and deserves at a minimum a temp ban. But using AI to make all those posts deserves a perma-ban, no questions asked. It is textbook plagiarism, attempting to pass off something he didn't write as his own, in order to boost his post count, farm merit, and advertise whatever stupid shitcoin is in his signature.

Why do we even have rules if we aren't going to enforce them? I've asked this dozens of times and never had a response. No doubt this user will be back doing the exact same thing again soon. Roll Eyes
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But using AI to make all those posts deserves a perma-ban, no questions asked.
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How to prove AI usage? I already mentioned above another one who obviously uses AI for posting. It is obvious, but what clues should there be to prove that? What obvious doesn't mean provable. I guess here we have another one probably using AI or something else, and another, and another... Suspicious, but no proofs.

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But using AI to make all those posts deserves a perma-ban, no questions asked.
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How to prove AI usage? I already mentioned above another one who obviously uses AI for posting. It is obvious, but what clues should there be to prove that? What obvious doesn't mean provable. I guess here we have another one probably using AI or something else, and another, and another... Suspicious, but no proofs.

Should I go full MindlessElectron on all these accounts and have all those posts autoreported for spam?

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May 02, 2023, 04:10:31 PM
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But using AI to make all those posts deserves a perma-ban, no questions asked.
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How to prove AI usage? I already mentioned above another one who obviously uses AI for posting. It is obvious, but what clues should there be to prove that? What obvious doesn't mean provable. I guess here we have another one probably using AI or something else, and another, and another... Suspicious, but no proofs.
There are tools available to prove AI usage but probably they might not be completely accurate yet

Here are some examples:

1. writer.

2. copyleaks.

3. crossplag.

There's another method that can be used but it only applies to ChatGPT which is you ask chatGPT directly if it wrote the post (saying: "Chat GPT did you write this?" [insert post here])

You'll get a reply as Yes or No

I already mentioned above another one who obviously uses AI for posting.

I am going to test this method by applying it to the post of the user you previously mentioned.



And the reply is Valid "Yes"

Yes, I generated that response based on my training data and knowledge cutoff. ~snip~

I'm not sure if this method is accurate for other posts, but I have tried it several times on some suspicious AI written posts by members in this forum and ChatGPT confirmed that they were not written by humans so far.


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Should I go full MindlessElectron on all these accounts and have all those posts autoreported for spam?

They all, except newbie (and all 3 checkers above say I'm wrong about newbie), changed their posting style, so I can't say about all their posts but recent (for about couple of months) look like automated (checkers except writer mostly confirm it).

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