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May 06, 2023, 03:27:48 PM |
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Maybe I should give it a try once in a while because my grammar is so bad. But I'm afraid that my writing will become stiffer to read. But seeing what the OP did I got a little inspired about something else related to using AI. But for writing in this forum I want to keep my original writing even though the grammar might be messy. but as long as people understand what I write then that's enough. I'm even afraid that using AI to correct my writing will make my writing look like copy-paste. too stiff and too perfect sometimes I don't like it too much. but now I'm on my way to try it out of curiosity about the result You're not the only one, also I have bad grammar and now I start using Grammarly because this will help me to improve my grammar. But anyways English is our universal language so even though there's a time that we saw poor grammar but we understand the main content of his/her post. But we thank full that there's a tool to help us and improve our grammar. But For me Maybe using AI will make our life easier but there a negative sides do its better to stick out of AI for now.
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Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
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May 06, 2023, 05:48:55 PM |
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I think there is no crime in doing so, but apart from using any AI to automatically correct grammar errors, there are still some other platforms that automatically correct grammar errors in sentences. But after making an original statement, when it's imported to a grammar editor, it doesn't change your statement entirely; it only makes corrections in punctuation and may also correct a wrong spelling. By so doing, it did not really change the original idea of the writer, so I don't think there is anything wrong with it. There are members who entirely use AI-based contact to create topics, which is what the forum is really fighting to stop.
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May 06, 2023, 06:36:45 PM |
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So I use Lemur browser on my android which recently added feature called, 'lemur ai' which uses chatgpt. I go on to test my comment there and this happens:
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Felt like pasting ai's improved version instead of mine but felt it would be frowned upon, hence this thread. Edit: ... And this ai's answer
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If we keep in mind that original thread title included UI instead of AI, then we can assume that AI is not still a good to edit sentences. Okay, just kidding I have asked a similar question like this regarding grammar correctness under "Report Plagiarism by LoyceV. Based on my understanding from the explanation, provided that the origin content is being written by you, there is nothing wrong with using Grammarly to correct your punctuation and sentence.
But to some point, there is also no point in doing that since the English is not that bad and every average person will be able to read and understand what the entire content means.
The problem is that Grammarly knows absolutely every word you type and that's not so simply, they know and analyze what mistakes you make, what word you deleted, what word you changed, etc. When you send PM here, Grammarly knows what you wrote. If you only use it for posting, okay but when you use Grammarly extension, it has access on absolutely everything you type in message boxes and different fields, except the password and credit card detail fields.
By the way, I think that if one learns English and wants to improve it, it's okay to use Grammarly sometimes but I would stick with Cambridge books and practice. It's good to read English literature but it can be very hard, so, news websites are another great way too.
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May 06, 2023, 06:49:25 PM |
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They are not the best at creating grammar because I know there are a lot of mistakes with the structure. Additionally, sometimes it gives out wrong information, so you must also verify it. It may be grammatically correct, but it's still better to check it for yourself or use Grammarly to adjust it easily. Addition to people interested in Grammarly, you can learn a lot more when you use the premium but it's quite expensive though.
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Aanuoluwatofunmi
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May 06, 2023, 09:01:59 PM |
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I think there is no crime in doing so, but apart from using any AI to automatically correct grammar errors, there are still some other platforms that automatically correct grammar errors in sentences. Why should we get much worries on correcting our grammatical errors while making a sentence when this had already been made possible and simple on the keyboard we use while typing, we can modify the keyboard functions to our taste and also read twice a sentence we are making before posting, we need to be very careful in seeking after the use of AI apps in other not to invite malicious attack on our devices unknowingly to us.
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Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
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May 06, 2023, 09:41:29 PM |
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Why should we get much worries on correcting our grammatical errors while making a sentence when this had already been made possible and simple on the keyboard we use while typing, we can modify the keyboard functions to our taste and also read twice a sentence we are making before posting, we need to be very careful in seeking after the use of AI apps in other not to invite malicious attack on our devices unknowingly to us.
I think modifying our keyboard is for those using laptops; even they can easily add the Grammaly extension that automatically corrects grammatical errors while typing, but for those using Android mobile, I think it's not very much possible. Like you said, one really has to be careful to avoid some attacks, like some clipboard virus threads I read in this forum and other form of attacks. As long as one can write what others can comprehend, I see no reason for even bothering to use the AI grammar detector. If English is not a person's mother tongue but rather they only learned it, then no stress. The person can just write in a way they know others can read and understand.
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Accardo
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May 07, 2023, 12:59:41 AM |
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These tools most times, while correcting errors and syntax of our content, deduce the quality and readability of the article. Quite correct, it polishes the article and adds some flairs to it, other than using it to dictate few spelling errors, I don't consider such tools helpful anymore. When Writing, it flows according to your thoughts and how you arranged it, if a third party app begin to edit it, without proofreading it to understand why you added "why" in a sentence it'll flag the why as inappropriate and following its suggestions can complicated the readability of the article. Even I noticed on Grammarly that the readability score of my contents drops once I start editing my work on the site. However, using an AI plugin that suggests a totally different syntax to rewrite what you've written can be scored as 90% AI written post when checked on AI dictator apps or sites. I think sites like Grammarly and similar ones as mentioned by forum members can be a better editing tool to the AI on your browser.
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May 07, 2023, 04:30:24 AM |
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So I use Lemur browser on my android which recently added feature called, 'lemur ai' which uses chatgpt. I go on to test my comment there and this happens:
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Felt like pasting ai's improved version instead of mine but felt it would be frowned upon, hence this thread. Edit: ... And this ai's answer
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If we keep in mind that original thread title included UI instead of AI, then we can assume that AI is not still a good to edit sentences. Okay, just kidding That was stupid autocorrect from keyboard I use, title text wasn't filtered through ChatGPT/Lemur AI. I think modifying our keyboard is for those using laptops; even they can easily add the Grammaly extension that automatically corrects grammatical errors while typing, but for those using Android mobile, I think it's not very much possible.
Possible on android too, swiftkey/gboard flow out sentences beautifully, even grammarly keyboard is available too. I use Fleksy myself, it's not that good on writing but it's other features like extension support which I prefer.
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Eureka_07
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May 07, 2023, 12:47:18 PM |
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So I use Lemur browser on my android which recently added feature called, 'lemur ai' which uses chatgpt. <snip>
I do not see anything wrong if you will use AI for grammar correction. I personally also ask ChatGPT AI sometimes to improve the sentence, usually if I want to not having lots of word repetition on my sentences. I also ask it sometimes to improve the clarity and the tone (free version of Grammarly doesn't include that), so it's really a big help if you are not on a premium subscription. Although it's a great help, there are still times which it gives wrong outputs. Few times it had change the idea of the sentence, so I had to correct it again. Do not be to reliant and confident to each output given to you, take time to check nothing is wrong. Another good thing about it is that it provides explanations about the reasons for the corrections. Having that, allows users to have the opportunity of understanding the proper grammar. There should be nothing wrong of using it as the objective is to have a better constructed sentence (from your originally composed sentences), and not for getting info directly from the AI and posting it here or anywhere else (which you claim to be yours).
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May 07, 2023, 03:33:17 PM |
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I think if the use of AI is not abused, then why not use it. I mean for correcting errors. If you write the basis of the text yourself and formulate your thoughts accordingly, then there can be nothing wrong with that. But I have a question, is it really necessary to have an ideal grammar on the forum. Here, many don't have very good English, but this doesn't prevent them from expressing their thoughts in such a way that everyone understands them. All the same, they do n't take an grammar exam in English, therefore, there is no strong need for correcting mistakes. Mistakes like this bitcointalk-community can afford to forgive. Therefore, if OP is not too lazy to do extra gestures with error checking with AI , then why not do it. As the saying goes, its up to you.
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May 07, 2023, 05:55:50 PM |
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But I have a question, is it really necessary to have an ideal grammar on the forum. Here, many don't have very good English, but this doesn't prevent them from expressing their thoughts in such a way that everyone understands them. As long as other users understand what they're trying to convey, then of course it shouldn't be a big deal. But some users are really bad at grammar, not only even with English, but also with the local language. The best advice for those who can't speak English properly is to use a local board instead. So far I don't use AI for whatever reason, but I'm not native English speaker either. I hope most people don't have too much trouble to understanding what I'm trying to say in each of my English posts.
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May 10, 2023, 04:33:48 PM |
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Certain systems have been added to this technology through which the AI system answers the questions on its own. Answering a question is as easy as it is possible to answer manually but it is not possible to answer the question so easily through AI technology. If the answer to a question is searched manually, the answer can be understood as soon as the question is answered, but if the question is asked in the AI system, the AI system gives the answer relatively difficult. Many unknown things can be easily known by using AI system. Which is very difficult for people to know.
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May 11, 2023, 02:43:35 PM |
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There is no clear rule about how to use AI on bitcointalk but as a community who uses AI to abuse it for posting is not encouraged and also mods removed posts which are completely created by AI tool with simple questions.
But OPs case is not abusing with the tool in anyway, its more like premium version of grammarly tool but here we get it for free so it gives more accurate grammatical sentences which we miss when we write on our own which means it's not violating any forum rules and the tool is only used for betterment of our own contents then it can be allowed.
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smyslov
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May 14, 2023, 11:59:38 AM |
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There is no clear rule about how to use AI on bitcointalk but as a community who uses AI to abuse it for posting is not encouraged and also mods removed posts which are completely created by AI tool with simple questions.
But OPs case is not abusing with the tool in anyway, its more like premium version of grammarly tool but here we get it for free so it gives more accurate grammatical sentences which we miss when we write on our own which means it's not violating any forum rules and the tool is only used for betterment of our own contents then it can be allowed.
I agree As long as the idea is ours and the correction tool is only to correct the wrong use of grammar, AI is very different they are the ones who provide the idea, forums are for interactions and communications the human member should be the one to interact by a quote, reply or by creating a new discussion and he should use his own idea based on his thinking process, there should be human effort and a correctional tool like Grammarly can only be used to assists.
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Patrol69
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May 14, 2023, 03:39:22 PM |
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This technology has become a very useful and important technology for students. Students are finding simple solutions to grammars through AI technology, which previously required a private teacher to understand the grammars. Private teachers used to teach this subject at specific times but now such grammar related problems can be solved at any time. Not only grammar but various complex maths can be solved through this technology. Earlier students were more dependent on private teachers but now those who are connected with this technology have now become more dependent on this technology instead of private teachers. Maybe in the coming days many private teachers will find other employment for themselves.
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DiMarxist
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May 17, 2023, 08:45:51 PM |
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Technology has become a very popular, useful and important for students. Students are finding simple solutions to grammars through AI technology, which before we employed a private teacher to understand the grammars. But now you can solve or correct our grammars at anywhere and any time. And for here we write on our own I don't think it's not violating any forum rules, and the grammarly is only used for betterment of our own contents then it's might be allowed. Many unknown things can be easily known by using AI system.
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CryptSafe
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May 17, 2023, 09:54:55 PM |
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AI has made most people very lousy and not willing to read, study and research. Using AI can be sometimes very frustrating as what you expect inline with your work might really not be the same and the meaning too is a clear sign that the words churned out is not in line with what one is trying to fit in
There was an incidence in my country where a university student used AI to write test but after the test, the lecturer failed her and boldly write it in her answer script that she used AI for the test which the lady did not deny the fact.
One should not get too addicted to AI as it may not be in a favourable situation the response when gotten compared to the natural.
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Pedrination
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May 23, 2023, 07:42:03 AM |
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Using AI tools to correct grammar errors is not a problem. These tools mainly focus on fixing punctuation and spelling mistakes without changing the writer's original ideas. However, relying solely on AI-generated content for forum topics goes against the forum's goals.
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sokani
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May 23, 2023, 08:18:28 AM |
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I don't think so... Because it's not written by AI, and it shouldn't be considered as an AI generated post. I don't think it's a bad idea to run one's post through spell check or other grammatical tools to reduce/eliminate grammatical blunders. Using myself as an example, after posting if I discover some errors in my write up, sometimes I would deliberately leave it alone to prove that the post is made by a human and not AI generated since one can still read and understand my post.
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Aikidoka
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May 23, 2023, 09:49:37 AM |
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I don't think it's a problem to correct your original writing using any third-party tool, but make sure not to rely on it too much. Try to slowly improve your English so that you won't need it in the future. I know it's helpful sometimes since no one is perfect when it comes to grammar and anyone can make mistakes but it's fine as long as anyone here can understand what you're trying to say.
However, I think for better quality posts using punctuation and well-written sentences are important to earn merits(if you're looking to ranking up) as far as I've seen in this forum.
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