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Student life is considered to be one of the most difficult periods of life because in this student life, even if one has many wishes, it is not possible to fulfill them. In the student life, there is not enough money in the pocket to study outside the family. Among them, there are many students who try to fulfill their desires while managing their studies by doing tuition or part-time jobs just to fulfill some of their hobbies and to provide good support to the family.
As OP has done, he spends a part of the money he gets monthly from tuition for his family and another part he invests in Bitcoin which is a big achievement for him. Because he had a dream here to invest in Bitcoin one day and he managed to do it in his student life maybe he is proud of himself now.
Student life can be very different depending on the state of affairs in the country of living and the financial situation in the person's family. Not everyone's student years are associated with a lack of money. It happens, on the contrary, that it is student life that allows a person to earn capital, since he has enough time, there are still no responsibilities in the form of a family and work, and he is more open to risk.
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July 12, 2023, 05:46:31 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Yeah, I agree that $10 would not be a bad investment for a student if that's only what they think they can afford to invest, but I somehow imagine that for a student who is spending about $10 every day, it should not be very difficult to save up $1 every day for a week; he or she would have saved up $7, which in four weeks is $28. It would not also be bad to invest $28 a month, but what's wrong with some people is that they cannot make some sacrifice, knowing that every investment they make is still for their future benefit. You know that trading is not for everybody; there are some people who clearly admit that they can't handle trading, while others know they can't either but just want to try it out. In my opinion, for a student, it's just better to accumulate their Bitcoin gradually rather than venturing into trading. Perhaps trading is not the only way to increase your crypto holdings; with any slight unsuccessful trade, he can even lose $10.
Student years are not the easiest period of life, many have to earn extra money in order to be able to pay for housing and food, during such periods you don’t really think about any kind of investment, it would be good to save some money so that your pockets are not empty. ) But if there is some more or less stable source of income, then of course you can start buying bitcoin, it will not be superfluous, although in your student years these investments will not be able to reach any significant values. Imagine that your money is just enough for transportation when we are still students. It is really hard, and mostly we always ask for money from our parents. That is why it is better to save it than invest it. I just remember before that I did save money just to buy shoes or other stuff, which we knew was good at the time, but if we just saved it and invested it into something like having a small business, let's say selling loads or prepaid load cards, we could earn money. Investing, for sure, as a student is not something that we prioritize, as we are always thinking of buying new clothes and stuff that we need; we just wake up when we start to have a job. It is very natural for students or students not to think about investing, because they think they will still get money from their parents. This thought came in line with what was happening at that time where perhaps today's needs were more important than for the future, and looking for instant ways was more widely used than having to wait a long time. Some of my friends are also students at one of the universities in my country. Previously I was not very close friends with him and only saw his activities from his social media. I see him doing business that will give him instant profits, such as buying and selling branded clothes and so on. But after I met many times and he found out that I was a small investor in bitcoin, he started asking about deeper things about bitcoin, and after I gave him an explanation, at first he wasn't too interested because he thought the time he needed to take the profit is quite long, while he has to make a profit in a short time because he also pays for his studies from the results. I also explained that I didn't have to buy in large quantities right away, because I also used the DCA strategy to buy bitcoin. And after a while he finally started to do it. from that experience I see, they are not unwilling, but they are indeed required to get instant benefits because their needs must be met.
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July 12, 2023, 06:03:12 PM |
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from that experience I see, they are not unwilling, but they are indeed required to get instant benefits because their needs must be met.
Yes.. good example of a situation in which many people do want to have short term profits - especially if they might be thinking of their current budget and having to struggle with their current budget, and if they are in such a situation that they are struggling with their budget and they want money in the short term, then they are not really in an investing mindset, but instead in a gambling mindset... which may or may not end up working out.. ...and many of us know that bitcoin is longer term such as 4-10 years or even longer, and surely you might be able to benefit on shorter timelines, but it still might not be wise to cash out bitcoin until reaching higher levels of accumulation, including time for the price appreciation to compound upon itself. which may well take many years to really play out... and even many years to get your BTC holdings to such a level that maybe you could concentrate on something other than mostly accumulating it.. how much is enough? People are going to vary regarding how much is enough, and some will be regretting their decisions to sell too much too soon because they likely were not thinking about bitcoin in terms of a long enough timeline in order to really appreciate its compounding and exponential aspects (that are not guaranteed but remain ongoingly possible).
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July 12, 2023, 06:17:45 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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... I'd also like to point out that your "shitcoin" stance is really binary. Altcoins with good fundamentals and large returns exist. Diversification can reduce risk even in crypto. Each investor should do their homework before investing. It's best to know bitcoin first, but sure people can do whatever they want. I recommend focusing on bitcoin, and then after you figure out bitcoin, then maybe venture into crap.. if that's what you want to do... but hey, so many people venture into crap, and they really don't even know what bitcoin is. Bitcoin is already risky.. and if it happens to be your only investment or if you have a pretty low budget, then you likely would not be in a position to really diversify or to dilute the amount that you are investing.. so in the case of OP and anyone who might ONLY have $10 per month or even less than $100 per week, then they likely do not have enough value to diversify until they reach a certain level of investment (which is, of course, discretionarily determined by each person regarding how much of any investment they might need (or prefer) before they start to diversify.. whether that is $5k, $10k, $50k or some other amount.. .. so newbie investors do not necessarily need to spend time learning about other possible assets or investments besides bitcoin.. and again.. they can do what they like, even if it is dumb and even if it results in gambling rather than investing and also potentially wasting a lot of time, energy and money fucking around with shitcoins. On the other hand, if someone has some actual knowledge about some investment that they can make, besides bitcoin, then surely that is on them in terms of the extent to which they believe that it is worth their time, money and energies to put value in that whether it is long term or some kind of pump and dump situation.. which brings them back to problems with trying to trade.. rather than actual investing.. and I cannot think of any shitcoin that would be worth investing into.. but if you actually learn about bitcoin and somewhere along the way you figure out some shitcoin that might be worth investing into.. rather than pumping and dumping or trading into it, then that would also be a discretionary determine that anyone could make .. and perhaps they might have some small chance of actually being correct, rather than mostly (if not exclusively) focusing on figuring out (and employing and continuing to learn and improve) their bitcoin strategy, first. Bitcoin is unique and simple. Its called "digital gold for a reason. The envy-inducing stories of instant billionaires made by obscure altcoins are tempting, but grasping the foundations causes cognitive dissonance. Bitcoin's alone. It initiated this revolutionary digital currency tsunami and remains above, not merely by market capitalization but by its innovative decentralization. Skeptically, competing coins can seem appealing with fresh features, increased scalability, and flashy marketing tactics. No technology or catchy name makes a coin better or safer than Bitcoin. It's vital to distinguish investment from gambling. High volatility and quick returns indicate the latter. Enjoy Bitcoin. It's endured. Before diving into altcoins, study Bitcoin's fundamentals.
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July 12, 2023, 06:26:03 PM |
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... I'd also like to point out that your "shitcoin" stance is really binary. Altcoins with good fundamentals and large returns exist. Diversification can reduce risk even in crypto. Each investor should do their homework before investing. It's best to know bitcoin first, but sure people can do whatever they want. I recommend focusing on bitcoin, and then after you figure out bitcoin, then maybe venture into crap.. if that's what you want to do... but hey, so many people venture into crap, and they really don't even know what bitcoin is. Bitcoin is already risky.. and if it happens to be your only investment or if you have a pretty low budget, then you likely would not be in a position to really diversify or to dilute the amount that you are investing.. so in the case of OP and anyone who might ONLY have $10 per month or even less than $100 per week, then they likely do not have enough value to diversify until they reach a certain level of investment (which is, of course, discretionarily determined by each person regarding how much of any investment they might need (or prefer) before they start to diversify.. whether that is $5k, $10k, $50k or some other amount.. .. so newbie investors do not necessarily need to spend time learning about other possible assets or investments besides bitcoin.. and again.. they can do what they like, even if it is dumb and even if it results in gambling rather than investing and also potentially wasting a lot of time, energy and money fucking around with shitcoins. On the other hand, if someone has some actual knowledge about some investment that they can make, besides bitcoin, then surely that is on them in terms of the extent to which they believe that it is worth their time, money and energies to put value in that whether it is long term or some kind of pump and dump situation.. which brings them back to problems with trying to trade.. rather than actual investing.. and I cannot think of any shitcoin that would be worth investing into.. but if you actually learn about bitcoin and somewhere along the way you figure out some shitcoin that might be worth investing into.. rather than pumping and dumping or trading into it, then that would also be a discretionary determine that anyone could make .. and perhaps they might have some small chance of actually being correct, rather than mostly (if not exclusively) focusing on figuring out (and employing and continuing to learn and improve) their bitcoin strategy, first. Bitcoin is unique and simple. Its called "digital gold for a reason. The envy-inducing stories of instant billionaires made by obscure altcoins are tempting, but grasping the foundations causes cognitive dissonance. Bitcoin's alone. It initiated this revolutionary digital currency tsunami and remains above, not merely by market capitalization but by its innovative decentralization. Skeptically, competing coins can seem appealing with fresh features, increased scalability, and flashy marketing tactics. No technology or catchy name makes a coin better or safer than Bitcoin. It's vital to distinguish investment from gambling. High volatility and quick returns indicate the latter. Enjoy Bitcoin. It's endured. Before diving into altcoins, study Bitcoin's fundamentals. Hahahahaha I am not sure if you are mocking me.. but sure of course, I agree with that statement... sounds like something that ChatGBTC might say to summarize some aspects of what I had said.
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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July 12, 2023, 07:41:54 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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from that experience I see, they are not unwilling, but they are indeed required to get instant benefits because their needs must be met.
Yes.. good example of a situation in which many people do want to have short term profits - especially if they might be thinking of their current budget and having to struggle with their current budget, and if they are in such a situation that they are struggling with their budget and they want money in the short term, then they are not really in an investing mindset, but instead in a gambling mindset... which may or may not end up working out.. ...and many of us know that bitcoin is longer term such as 4-10 years or even longer, and surely you might be able to benefit on shorter timelines, but it still might not be wise to cash out bitcoin until reaching higher levels of accumulation, including time for the price appreciation to compound upon itself. which may well take many years to really play out... and even many years to get your BTC holdings to such a level that maybe you could concentrate on something other than mostly accumulating it.. how much is enough? People are going to vary regarding how much is enough, and some will be regretting their decisions to sell too much too soon because they likely were not thinking about bitcoin in terms of a long enough timeline in order to really appreciate its compounding and exponential aspects (that are not guaranteed but remain ongoingly possible). Well then indeed sacrifice is indeed needed in investing in bitcoin, because maybe the money we budget is money that should be able to buy other needs at that time, but maybe not a need that should be prioritized. Emphasis on satisfying momentary lust must indeed be done, yes that's what I also feel and it's natural because we are also humans who might want something luxurious that we can have at that moment. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not many people can wait for years, especially those who may enter and then the bear market arrives, it will certainly take a longer time than we buy now that the market is moving up slowly but surely. I can say that people who invest in bitcoin are people who have a great sense of patience, because again the time they wait is not a short time. Maybe it can be said that waiting for 4 or 5 years is also a short time.
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July 12, 2023, 08:18:17 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I'd advise against generalizing any transactions. While I agree that a conservative, DCA approach is usually optimal, especially for newbies and those with low finances, other investment techniques might be advantageous.
I'd also like to point out that your "shitcoin" stance is really binary. Altcoins with good fundamentals and large returns exist. Diversification can reduce risk even in crypto. Each investor should do their homework before investing.
Looking at the conditions for those of us who may be categorised as small investors, DCA is actually the most possible thing even though when saying conservative it seems like the only way but indeed DCA is indeed one of the good things apart from waiting for momentum and buying on the dip. I will not say that for shitcoin and verified is a mistake but when referring to the existing context of "small investors" especially for OP who BDT 10000 for a year as OP said what needs to be verified because this will make the shrinkage bigger especially when talking about shitcoin. Although the rate of return on bitcoin is lower especially if we save a little but when talking about certainty of course it is more worth it.
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July 12, 2023, 08:27:10 PM |
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from that experience I see, they are not unwilling, but they are indeed required to get instant benefits because their needs must be met.
Yes.. good example of a situation in which many people do want to have short term profits - especially if they might be thinking of their current budget and having to struggle with their current budget, and if they are in such a situation that they are struggling with their budget and they want money in the short term, then they are not really in an investing mindset, but instead in a gambling mindset... which may or may not end up working out.. ...and many of us know that bitcoin is longer term such as 4-10 years or even longer, and surely you might be able to benefit on shorter timelines, but it still might not be wise to cash out bitcoin until reaching higher levels of accumulation, including time for the price appreciation to compound upon itself. which may well take many years to really play out... and even many years to get your BTC holdings to such a level that maybe you could concentrate on something other than mostly accumulating it.. how much is enough? People are going to vary regarding how much is enough, and some will be regretting their decisions to sell too much too soon because they likely were not thinking about bitcoin in terms of a long enough timeline in order to really appreciate its compounding and exponential aspects (that are not guaranteed but remain ongoingly possible). Well then indeed sacrifice is indeed needed in investing in bitcoin, because maybe the money we budget is money that should be able to buy other needs at that time, but maybe not a need that should be prioritized. Emphasis on satisfying momentary lust must indeed be done, yes that's what I also feel and it's natural because we are also humans who might want something luxurious that we can have at that moment. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Surely, how much of a discretionary budget that you have will affect how much of a sacrifice that you are going to need to invest into bitcoin and/or to benefit from bitcoin, and of course, those people who have a lot more discretionary budget will have more choices in regards to how aggressively that they would like to invest (and even various ways to hedge your bet). When you are a new investor (whether into bitcoin or some other asset(s)), and maybe you do not have a lot of money or you had never really been around people who are employing long term investing techniques, so you may well end up struggling more than others just to build your investment portfolio up, so some people may struggle for 10 years or longer, just to build up an investment portfolio that is the size of one year's living income... so there could be some needs to have appreciation in your portfolio, but at the same time there can be a balancing in which you may well not want to overly expose yourself to risks of losing principle.... so there are investment choices and there are sizing of investments that can sometimes help in terms of how much you feel that you are putting your investments at risk and maybe causing some confidences in regards to whether sacrifices that you are making today might have decent chances to pay off in the middle to long term.. and sure some people want pay offs in the short-term too, but frequently you may well be asking for too much or too emotionally attached to your investment if you are expecting your investment portfolio to be in profits from the beginning.. which frequently is not what happens with newer investment portfolios... So you can surely attempt to figure out how aggressive that you feel that you are able to be without overdoing it and without necessarily feeling like you are overly depriving yourself of current pleasures (because it is likely that everyone wants to be able to have some rewards in the present without completely deferring gratification to some future point in which the pay off might not ever end up being realized). Not many people can wait for years, especially those who may enter and then the bear market arrives, it will certainly take a longer time than we buy now that the market is moving up slowly but surely.
Your timeline should well end up affecting the size of your position... so frequently if you are entering into a volatile investment like bitcoin, then you would lower your investment amount if you are concerned about the volatility.. rather than raising it and hoping that you are able to take advantage of the volatility.. but sure some people do gamble with bitcoin (rather than investing) and sometimes it can end up paying off for them in the short term. I can say that people who invest in bitcoin are people who have a great sense of patience, because again the time they wait is not a short time. Maybe it can be said that waiting for 4 or 5 years is also a short time.
Some people cannot invest into bitcoin for longer periods, and it partly depends on your age and other possible factors that you might foresee that might cause you to have a lower timeline.. so if you are in your late 60s you might start to get concerned about how many years that you have to live and how many expenses that you might have, including that you might be starting to live off of your investments rather than being able to put more money into investments through earned income that might go up.. but fixed income does not tend to go up and fixed income might seem like it is shrinking with the passage of time because prices go up but the fixed income does not go up as rapidly as the prices of goods and services.
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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July 12, 2023, 09:50:49 PM |
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I can say that people who invest in bitcoin are people who have a great sense of patience, because again the time they wait is not a short time. Maybe it can be said that waiting for 4 or 5 years is also a short time.
There are several factors that can be used as a benchmark in this case, For example, when it comes to older people in retirement age, they may lower their ambition to invest and stop sooner when they are already profitable because they realise that it's time to enjoy the results of what they did in their younger years. However, it is part of the strategy but when it comes to those who are younger and still productive, there are certainly some things they consider so they will take a longer time than that even though sometimes in other cases we still encounter many investments that set a profit ratio of xx% as their target. Actually, that's fine because they also have their own thoughts and strategies.
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from that experience I see, they are not unwilling, but they are indeed required to get instant benefits because their needs must be met.
Yes.. good example of a situation in which many people do want to have short term profits - especially if they might be thinking of their current budget and having to struggle with their current budget, and if they are in such a situation that they are struggling with their budget and they want money in the short term, then they are not really in an investing mindset, but instead in a gambling mindset... which may or may not end up working out.. ...and many of us know that bitcoin is longer term such as 4-10 years or even longer, and surely you might be able to benefit on shorter timelines, but it still might not be wise to cash out bitcoin until reaching higher levels of accumulation, including time for the price appreciation to compound upon itself. which may well take many years to really play out... and even many years to get your BTC holdings to such a level that maybe you could concentrate on something other than mostly accumulating it.. how much is enough? People are going to vary regarding how much is enough, and some will be regretting their decisions to sell too much too soon because they likely were not thinking about bitcoin in terms of a long enough timeline in order to really appreciate its compounding and exponential aspects (that are not guaranteed but remain ongoingly possible). Well then indeed sacrifice is indeed needed in investing in bitcoin, because maybe the money we budget is money that should be able to buy other needs at that time, but maybe not a need that should be prioritized. Emphasis on satisfying momentary lust must indeed be done, yes that's what I also feel and it's natural because we are also humans who might want something luxurious that we can have at that moment. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not many people can wait for years, especially those who may enter and then the bear market arrives, it will certainly take a longer time than we buy now that the market is moving up slowly but surely. I can say that people who invest in bitcoin are people who have a great sense of patience, because again the time they wait is not a short time. Maybe it can be said that waiting for 4 or 5 years is also a short time. Not all would really be having the patience and this is why making up this decision isnt something that would really be that so easy too specially when we are still a student on which we dont have income source. Even myself if i was on the condition then i would really be longing after to see some results of my invest on neither 1-2 years time but not on 4 or 5 or even 10. This is the time on which knowledge level on certain individual towards Bitcoin or overall crypto space would be entirely be varying because if you are that someone who did their assignment and research well then you would definitely be ending up on being positive and persevere on accumulating as much as you can and as much as possible. It would really be that hard basing up on the condition that we are in since we arent that financially capable but doesnt mean that it would be impossible for you to do so.
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A friend suggested Bitcoin to me about 1 year ago. I have been trying to learn the history of Bitcoin ever since. How to earn from Bitcoin, I learned that investing will make profit or loss. Success can never be achieved without risk. Then I became interested in investing in Bitcoin. My family is a very poor family. I am studying now and earning BDT 7000 per month from tuition, BDT 3000 I spend on running my household. BDT 3000 is my monthly expenses and I save BDT 1000, I save around BDT 10000 in a year and invest in Bitcoin. I will hold the investment for a long time. According to many researchers, we will soon see a bull market. Bitcoin will be over $100K in 2025
But the main thing is that bitcoin is still illegal in our country, I invested bitcoin very carefully.
Lately I think it is better to invest in bitcoins than depositing money in the bank. Day by day people have lost trust in banks. It is heard that many banks are going bankrupt and closing down.
It's best to know bitcoin first, but sure people can do whatever they want. I recommend focusing on bitcoin, and then after you figure out bitcoin, then maybe venture into crap.. if that's what you want to do... but hey, so many people venture into crap, and they really don't even know what bitcoin is.
Bitcoin is already risky.. and if it happens to be your only investment or if you have a pretty low budget, then you likely would not be in a position to really diversify or to dilute the amount that you are investing.. so in the case of OP and anyone who might ONLY have $10 per month or even less than $100 per week, then they likely do not have enough value to diversify until they reach a certain level of investment (which is, of course, discretionarily determined by each person regarding how much of any investment they might need (or prefer) before they start to diversify.. whether that is $5k, $10k, $50k or some other amount.. .. so newbie investors do not necessarily need to spend time learning about other possible assets or investments besides bitcoin.. and again.. they can do what they like, even if it is dumb and even if it results in gambling rather than investing and also potentially wasting a lot of time, energy and money fucking around with shitcoins.
On the other hand, if someone has some actual knowledge about some investment that they can make, besides bitcoin, then surely that is on them in terms of the extent to which they believe that it is worth their time, money and energies to put value in that whether it is long term or some kind of pump and dump situation.. which brings them back to problems with trying to trade.. rather than actual investing.. and I cannot think of any shitcoin that would be worth investing into.. but if you actually learn about bitcoin and somewhere along the way you figure out some shitcoin that might be worth investing into.. rather than pumping and dumping or trading into it, then that would also be a discretionary determine that anyone could make .. and perhaps they might have some small chance of actually being correct, rather than mostly (if not exclusively) focusing on figuring out (and employing and continuing to learn and improve) their bitcoin strategy, first.
Personally, I do consider school and education to be a good thing, and sometimes there can be quite a lot of legitimacy that is obtained from receiving a traditional education (certification and/or diploma), even though surely people can learn in a variety of ways and sometimes the money spent on traditional education might not have been worth it in terms of whether a student might be ready to learn or able to learn or even some of the skills that can be learning how to learn that can come through a variety of ways that may well have quite a bit of individual variance - and some of us might not realize until later in life if we might have had made a mistake in terms of some choices that we make earlier on (in terms of our chosen path and some of them are somewhat age dependent) that we are not able to go back and have any "do-overs." I think it would be a smart strategy for study periods, whether in college or even in high school (I would apply more in college since high school is a bit complex to get money), since many of us have faced complex and stressful economic situations in those times of study or at least I speak for myself and a few people. If I had discovered this world during my college years, it would have saved me a lot of stress. I firmly believe that before a student ventures to invest in Bitcoin, it is essential that he acquires a deep understanding of this cryptocurrency. Investigating its operation, evaluating its present and future potential, and considering other relevant factors are prudent actions when making financial decisions. To get promising results when investing in Bitcoin requires a great deal of patience and trust. Although the early creators of this cryptocurrency reaped great benefits, its potential remains fruitful, albeit possibly at a more gradual pace. It is evident that more and more people are becoming aware of the inherent instability of fiat currencies compared to Bitcoin. Rising inflation in most countries provides an incentive to invest in a currency that is known to be on the rise. This reduces the risk of loss and preserves wealth in the long term. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftinypic.host%2Fimages%2F2023%2F07%2F13%2FGerardo-Moran-Mi-Primer-Bitcoin.png&t=665&c=5h23z_mP8dbGKg) I want to share this news that I just found and that relates very well to the current discussion. It is not only a simple informative news, but it is a true example of life. I invite you to read it and share your opinions about it. To begin, I want to share a phrase from the protagonist of the story, Gerardo Morán... “We now proudly educate people in the western region of El Salvador. This job has given me opportunities I never thought possible. It allows me to work, continue my studies and meet people while passing on this knowledge to students not much younger than me”. Gerardo Morán, instructor of My First Bitcoin. To give you a brief summary, this news item tells us about the individual Gerardo Morán, an 18-year-old Salvadoran youth, he is an inspiring example. Since he was 11 years, has worked in construction, facing great challenges including insufficient wages and the depreciation of the currency in his country. However, this was not an impediment to overcome, so he decided to embark on a new path. Through his learning about Bitcoin and his experience with the ONG "my first Bitcoin" (a tour that covered 23 municipalities in El Salvador was carried out during the first months of the year), he managed to overcome the stigmas and obstacles associated with cryptocurrencies in his country... to the point that he is now a Bitcoin instructor due to his hard work and success. Without a doubt, I can say that this story is a reminder of the value of education, being a powerful tool to transform mentality and overcome anxieties related to the unknown. Finally, I think that in the context of student life, it is too similar because, as you can see, it is a clear example that investing in Bitcoin can offer students a valuable opportunity to learn and understand cryptocurrencies with the aim of They may face economic difficulties, or simply have better financial stability. fountain: https://www.criptonoticias.com/educacion/como-pase-trabajar-mucho-ganar-poco-cambiar-vida-bitcoin/.
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I think investing in Bitcoin is very beneficial in student life. Because the importance of Bitcoin is essential to keep pace with today's world. If you have something left over from your student income after spending the household, or trying to save it, it is possible to become very financially independent by investing in Bitcoin. I invested some money in Bitcoin a few days ago and made some profit from it. I am very satisfied with that. I earned 40 dollar per month, from that I spent 20 dollar in household and invested 20 dollar in Bitcoin. I have benefited a lot from it. This achievement is very big for me in my student life.
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July 13, 2023, 11:22:48 AM |
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I think investing in Bitcoin is very beneficial in student life. Because the importance of Bitcoin is essential to keep pace with today's world. If you have something left over from your student income after spending the household, or trying to save it, it is possible to become very financially independent by investing in Bitcoin.
You can try DCA to collect bitcoin according to the available budget, Bitcoin is useful when someone can continue to consistently look for gaps to be collected, Bitcoin will also be productive when investment is applied long -term patterns because to achieve profits in the short term with a small budget will not be maximized. The strategy of people in investing bitcoin is different and most importantly is the level of consistency to continue to collect. When the capital we have is still small, it is highly recommended to use DCA so that the investment we make can continue to be stable and regular. I invested some money in Bitcoin a few days ago and made some profit from it. I am very satisfied with that. I earned 40 dollar per month, from that I spent 20 dollar in household and invested 20 dollar in Bitcoin. I have benefited a lot from it. This achievement is very big for me in my student life.
Are you seriously saying that, how could $ 20 be enough for the necessities of living together with the family, whether your $ 20 meant is only from investment profits and you have other budgets in addition to the cost of daily life. Where do you live right now friends? Because if $ 20 is total for needs I don't think it will be enough.
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Are you seriously saying that, how could $ 20 be enough for the necessities of living together with the family, whether your $ 20 meant is only from investment profits and you have other budgets in addition to the cost of daily life. Where do you live right now friends? Because if $ 20 is total for needs I don't think it will be enough.
For some countries, these numbers are very common, no matter how sad it may be. In Egypt, for example. What's more, very few people in such countries make $40 a month, let alone have that kind of earnings being a student. If someone with such income manages to allocate half for investment, this indicates dedication and a desire to achieve much more than a person has now. It is good that such tools as cryptocurrencies have appeared for this.
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Some people cannot invest into bitcoin for longer periods, and it partly depends on your age and other possible factors that you might foresee that might cause you to have a lower timeline.. so if you are in your late 60s you might start to get concerned about how many years that you have to live and how many expenses that you might have, including that you might be starting to live off of your investments rather than being able to put more money into investments through earned income that might go up.. but fixed income does not tend to go up and fixed income might seem like it is shrinking with the passage of time because prices go up but the fixed income does not go up as rapidly as the prices of goods and services. However, it is possible for older people to still invest in bitcoin but it depends on the purpose. Some people (especially young people) are definitely investing in bitcoin for their old age to make their lives more secure, some others are investing in bitcoin for the future of their young children, and it is also possible for people to invest in bitcoin with the aim of passing it on to their heirs. Yes I understand when talking about the needs they will spend while they can no longer work. But on the other hand we know that most bitcoin investors are entrepreneurs who ensure that they will get income even if they just sit idle, in short the money works for them. Including myself, if I can and am able I have a desire to give my inheritance one of them in the form of bitcoin. Of course it will be a long process to realize it all, including I have to educate my family (children especially) about bitcoin, so that they are not confused later what they should do with the bitcoin they have from inheritance.
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I think investing in Bitcoin is very beneficial in student life. Because the importance of Bitcoin is essential to keep pace with today's world. If you have something left over from your student income after spending the household, or trying to save it, it is possible to become very financially independent by investing in Bitcoin. I invested some money in Bitcoin a few days ago and made some profit from it. I am very satisfied with that. I earned 40 dollar per month, from that I spent 20 dollar in household and invested 20 dollar in Bitcoin. I have benefited a lot from it. This achievement is very big for me in my student life.
Bro are you serious? I'm not trying to patronise you on investment here but $40 per month and $20 for investment and $20 for family needs. Is that really enough? I think this is too much, although indeed bitcoin has a decent place for investment but when looking at the financial division that you do indirectly it makes you divide 50/50 in all your income and I think it's not very ethical. at least think about your family in a month $20 is in my opinion too small. Bitcoin is indeed very good to be used as an investment material but there is no need to sacrifice other things and I still feel that if indeed it is your entire income for one month then it is better to use it for daily needs first until you get more money because this is an investment not for the betting arena by putting half of what you have in finances for one month.
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I invested in Bitcoin when I was a student in 2016, and I suggest you do the same, as the return on investment in Bitcoin is much higher than any other form of investment.
That's funny, according to your first post, in 2013, you had already been a trader for 15 years. 2) I have been trading for 15 years, and whenever there is extreme volatility as you are seeing in bitcoin, its dangerous. What it means is there is a LOT of hot money in bitcoin. this might be great for a dotcom boom stock or similar, but if you are trying to introduce a medium of exchange its not good
So you started trading when you were somewhere between 3 and 7? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You'll only read this reply when you see I've used it as a reference for a tag.
On to the subject of discussion: Bitcoin wasn't invented to be an investment first and foremost. It was invented to be a new form of currency which has superior aspects over traditionally currency. If you actually use Bitcoin for what its for you may end up saving and potentially making more money than if you were to have invested in it. Sure, historically speaking its a great investment, but if everybody who bought it only ever used it as a profit-making mechanism it would be no different than any Ponzi scheme.
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July 13, 2023, 04:27:07 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I think investing in Bitcoin is very beneficial in student life. Because the importance of Bitcoin is essential to keep pace with today's world. If you have something left over from your student income after spending the household, or trying to save it, it is possible to become very financially independent by investing in Bitcoin. I invested some money in Bitcoin a few days ago and made some profit from it. I am very satisfied with that. I earned 40 dollar per month, from that I spent 20 dollar in household and invested 20 dollar in Bitcoin. I have benefited a lot from it. This achievement is very big for me in my student life.
Bro are you serious? I'm not trying to patronise you on investment here but $40 per month and $20 for investment and $20 for family needs. Is that really enough? I think this is too much, although indeed bitcoin has a decent place for investment but when looking at the financial division that you do indirectly it makes you divide 50/50 in all your income and I think it's not very ethical. at least think about your family in a month $20 is in my opinion too small. Bitcoin is indeed very good to be used as an investment material but there is no need to sacrifice other things and I still feel that if indeed it is your entire income for one month then it is better to use it for daily needs first until you get more money because this is an investment not for the betting arena by putting half of what you have in finances for one month. $20/month for a family's needs is too little, with that amount not even enough for a week if he lives in my country. But we don't know which country he is from and if that money is enough to support his family because looking at an income of $40/month is also very low for an ordinary worker. But I think he also carefully calculated before deducting 50% of his monthly salary to invest in bitcoin because there is no man who would leave his wife and children hungry and take money to invest. But there is another risk that I see in his financial plan that there is no savings. He should set aside $20 for his family, $10 to invest in bitcoin, and the remaining $10 to save for emergencies. Not having any savings for life is too risky.
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bayu7adi
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Lately I think it is better to invest in bitcoins than depositing money in the bank. Day by day people have lost trust in banks. It is heard that many banks are going bankrupt and closing down.
I have yet to witness these signs in my country. Indeed, it is true that some lesser-known and less competitive banks often open and close frequently. However, in the case of well-established banks in my country, their stock prices remain stable and even tend to rise each year. Up to this point, when I engage in conversations with stock investors, they suggest purchasing shares in safer banking institutions, each providing their own reasons. This indicates that the public's trust in banks still exists and continues to grow over time. Nevertheless, this does not imply a decrease in trust towards Bitcoin. Despite its inability to be used for direct transactions, Bitcoin remains an alternative investment choice alongside stocks in my country.
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Furious 7
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Are you seriously saying that, how could $ 20 be enough for the necessities of living together with the family, whether your $ 20 meant is only from investment profits and you have other budgets in addition to the cost of daily life. Where do you live right now friends? Because if $ 20 is total for needs I don't think it will be enough.
For some countries, these numbers are very common, no matter how sad it may be. In Egypt, for example. What's more, very few people in such countries make $40 a month, let alone have that kind of earnings being a student. If someone with such income manages to allocate half for investment, this indicates dedication and a desire to achieve much more than a person has now. It is good that such tools as cryptocurrencies have appeared for this. Wait, I may not know the conditions there but looking at the current index when you search on search engines the average salary in Egypt is more than $200 for a month 1. Salary range The average salary in Egypt ranges from 2,330 EGP per month (USD 77) to 41,100 EGP (USD 1,355) per month - with 2,330 EGP being the lowest average salary and 41,100 EGP being the maximum salary (the maximum salary is actually higher).
2. Median salary in Egypt The median salary in Egypt is 7,840 EGP per month (USD 258).
What is the median salary? The median salary represents the middle salary value.
In simpler words, half of the Egyptian population earns less than the median salary (USD 258), and the other half earns more than USD 258 per month.
There are also some ranges that are at $77 but when looking at the overall average salary there it can still be said to be good. Although it is possible that what you said could be true because I don't really know the conditions there but I think $40 a month is still rather small. Back to the context if the starting salary is $40 a month and allocating half of it to bitcoin I think it's not a matter of dedication or not but it's a little outrageous because you might sacrifice your daily needs and family just to be in bitcoin. Even if bitcoin is a good place to be still family comes first and you can't put your family aside especially with half your monthly earnings in bitcoin.
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