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May 12, 2023, 04:38:03 AM
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Well people did make lots of money in the stock market just not in 2022. Look how many people from the wallstreetbets made huge gains by buying calls for Gamespot and AMC. However the party ended after the fed started to raise rates.

Right now there are a handful of stocks keeping the sp500 up. Once they get bad earnings then we can expect a larger correction. With the debt ceiling issues and inflation issues. It’s a very risky market to predict what will happen in the near future.
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May 12, 2023, 06:02:18 AM
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The world economy are on the brink of a Depression, so people working for a commission will hide the truth about the state of the global economy. We are also faced with a very real threat of a World War III.... with the tension building between North Korea / Russia / China and the West.

The Stock brokers and the financial advisors does not have crystal balls that are telling them what the future will bring, they rely on historical charts and statistics that might never repeat those cycles again.... or for a very long time.   

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May 12, 2023, 09:43:20 AM
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Most people are too ambitious to get big profits so they choose high risk types of investments such as the stock market, as we know that the stock market is also very volatile, in my country if stocks drop almost 100% in a few days it will be frozen immediately and this creates a situation is becoming increasingly difficult because it is difficult for shareholders to sell and waiting for new investors to be able to pump again.


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May 12, 2023, 01:01:30 PM
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market

They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund? The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich.

I told broker this is snake oil, and it is over. He respond it is not, you see, everybody too is doing this shady business, everybody doing it, you know, ape together ape is strong, when ape is strong, police is weak, law enforcement is weak, they can't fight the ape when ape together. Smiley
What they did is that these promotors, brokers, and influencers make a deal and promise a bright future after investing. A person who hears this will simply say amazing, I have to invest...Later part, when you are asking what happen, you can never see and talk to them anymore. Very unfortunate when we are investing in something that we don't have any idea about and it was too difficult to blame others when in the first place we don't even bother to study the market before deciding.
We have to move on and make this a lesson and reference in the future, that is the only thing we can do OP.
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May 12, 2023, 01:32:50 PM
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There is always a danger associated with investing in stocks or precious metals purchased from a centralized site; for example, the company may be unscrupulous or the website may have been hacked. Because it's impossible to keep tangible precious metal hidden from others, investing in it carries the danger of being robbed. Aside from the risk I previously highlighted, investing in bitcoin has the chance of losing access to your wallet or having a trusted person turn on you.
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May 12, 2023, 03:31:34 PM
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Sweet words won't mean a thing unless proven. Ofcourse brokers would say things to convince you because it will be profit in an instant. With regards to the idea such that if you've lost much in stock market, then try taking a pause and realize what have you done wrong. Problem for years is that people engage with investments they don't know nothing about, trusting "professionals". Regardless if you are dealing with experienced individuals, you should still know what you are dealing yourself with in order for you to have your own opinion whether to continue or not. Stock market has its own risk. Relying or depending all of your investment to ither people won't do you good in any case. It would be much better to study things before continuing into it.

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May 12, 2023, 03:49:05 PM
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There isn't any. if it loses it should be part of our readiness as stock investors. they will not guarantee that our money will return if what we invest is suddenly lost or rugpull. we can only accept it and learn again to be really careful in choosing projects to invest.

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May 12, 2023, 04:02:47 PM
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forget it. because it is a consequence of stock investment. who guarantees the stock we invest will be successful? before entering here we have done research on what things we should and should not do and the risks. it is the first step of any investment. stocks are not much different from crypto, they will definitely have advantages and disadvantages, so be wise in choosing which stock projects you really invest in, it will affect your assets in the future.

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May 12, 2023, 05:18:30 PM
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By just reading the first part, it's already shady that in investment everyone should be aware of that there's no guaranteed returns.

And if there's an investment that guarantees you a percentage or returns or greatly promises then you're actually going to see your own downfall there.

No refunds with that and it's either the broker took the money and ran away or he's actually saying true thing but no guarantees that the stocks that he has invested in will come back later. Don't get blinded by those words of professional traders as they say, no one can be better than the market.
I think the fact that stock market is filled with people who lost their entire savings is proof enough, we do not really need any more extra proof on top of that. I think it is very important to see that we are in a world where it is going to suck for a long time if we keep trusting people who keep saying they will make us rich. No person who tells you that they can make you rich, could make you rich it is just that simple.

If it was that much simple to get rich then they would get rich themselves, if I knew a guaranteed method to make me rich, I would sell everything, my house, my car, my pc, my shoes, even my clothes, I would own nothing at all and sell everything and invest. They don't, they use your money, and tell you that there might be risk after saying 100 things that is basically telling you guaranteed to make money.
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May 12, 2023, 06:05:17 PM
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They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund?

I'm an advocate in people diversifying retirement portfolios with index/mutual funds instead of keeping their entire in a single asset. That being said, it's not going to make you "rich." It's meant to act as a safety net and grow your net worth as cash sitting in a bank account will decay in value. I've seen too many young/naive investors start putting large amount into stocks thinking it's the secret to accruing wealth. Doesn't work that way.

The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich.

He's right that the market enters cycles so you shouldn't sell for a loss in a bear market. If you're trying to game the market into retiring young and rich, that's not investing. That's more akin to gambling. Get a new broker. Your broker sounds a bit dodgy with the half truths he's telling.
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May 12, 2023, 07:06:37 PM
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You can't convince a stockbroker who has been in the market and knows how things go, this is just like for people in crypto, and with the trends we have now, you are now preaching to me because of volatility issues with Bitcoin. The stock broker has their days of victory likewise the others because I have seen people who made it though stock also.

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May 12, 2023, 07:14:16 PM
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Well one thing is sure, your broker is trying to motivate you but he is not being very straight wait you. If the market is dropped then it’s dropped and there are multiple theories about every stock in the market. It may come back, it may not come back and it may back after such long period of time that we would exhaust and sell it anyways.

This is the whole reason why everyone who is trading should trade on multiple stocks or share holdings. It should be diversified in such way that you get:

1. Security of the funds at least from 3-4 stocks you holding
2. Balance out your loss and profit amongst the multiple assets
3. Increase the odds of profiting with the time.

I couldn’t agree more on what has been written in the OP because it how the market really works. There is literally no guarantee without a risk.
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May 12, 2023, 07:43:26 PM
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The most important thing when you lose money whether in the stock market or crypto or any other financial products is to learn from it and use the lessons to your advantage but greed will not make people use these lessons to their advantage. I lost a lot in the stock market before I found Crypto and later decide that it is not for me, the reason is that the ease of getting in and out of trade in Crypto is swift, I don't need any broker to buy or sell or help fund my account all these steps I can do it myself. Since all market moves in Cycle, the best thing to do is wait for the pendulum to swing in your direction and flow with the tide until everything stops again


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May 12, 2023, 07:47:15 PM
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market

They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund? The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich.

I told broker this is snake oil, and it is over. He respond it is not, you see, everybody too is doing this shady business, everybody doing it, you know, ape together ape is strong, when ape is strong, police is weak, law enforcement is weak, they can't fight the ape when ape together. Smiley

You don't lose anything unless you sell your losing positions. Back in 2020, 2018 and 2008 the markets crashed too and it always recovered. This time isn't going to be an exception. If you haven't sold when you were in the green then it doesn't make any sense to sell now while you are in the red. As of now, I have some losing positions and I have some winning positions. I am fine with all of my positions in the markets because I am not interested in the price. I am interested in the company. If it is a good company, then I hold. If not, I sell. It is that simple.

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May 12, 2023, 07:56:29 PM
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The most important thing when you lose money whether in the stock market or crypto or any other financial products is to learn from it and use the lessons to your advantage but greed will not make people use these lessons to their advantage. I lost a lot in the stock market before I found Crypto and later decide that it is not for me, the reason is that the ease of getting in and out of trade in Crypto is swift, I don't need any broker to buy or sell or help fund my account all these steps I can do it myself. Since all market moves in Cycle, the best thing to do is wait for the pendulum to swing in your direction and flow with the tide until everything stops again
But the frustrating side here is that those owners of money that have been invested, didn't lose it with their bare hands but with someone's hands. There goes the potential mismanagement of the fund and this is what people must avoid if they can't take the result of it because you'll never know how it's going to be. Yes, there are cycles and whatnot and if I'm reading it correctly with the response of the guy, that's not acceptable. Upon telling that everybody makes shady business, that's something that he shouldn't say because the thought of people that have lost money is upon him that probably did actual shady thing with their money.

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May 12, 2023, 08:46:10 PM
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market

They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan.
Most of these stock brokers are just like the influencer marketer that paid to hype a meme coin and they will always say beautiful things just to get the attention of investors for the fee or commission they are going to earn.

Are they gonna get a refund?
Investors getting a refund after investing in a stock and their money has disappeared into thin air? Who is going to pay the refund? This is investment buddy and people are always advised to invest the money they can afford to lose.

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May 12, 2023, 08:47:38 PM
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Well one thing is sure, your broker is trying to motivate you but he is not being very straight wait you. If the market is dropped then it’s dropped and there are multiple theories about every stock in the market. It may come back, it may not come back and it may back after such long period of time that we would exhaust and sell it anyways.

They've got these promising words to make you motivate and invest in the stock market but never tell you the risk that awaits them. A thing that I hate much because if they are really helping people to grow, they must also warn them but guess what, these brokers say nothing, and what they did are just making you feel that this will help you reach your dream.

Of course, those who have experience or have knowledge already about the stock market know what will happen and the risk here. But innocent people and newcomers, they'll not be thinking about it considering how these brokers convince them.
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The stock market will never be about you making profits every day, every week, every month, or even for an entire year. It is just the avid belief of an addict with the desire to become rich thanks to this market. Unfortunately, the real market is not as easy to make money in as you think. Being in this market requires knowledge, experience, and a deep understanding of market dynamics. In addition, you need to have a long-term mindset, and then you will be able to master yourself in this market.

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May 13, 2023, 06:18:33 AM
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market

They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund? The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich.

I told broker this is snake oil, and it is over. He respond it is not, you see, everybody too is doing this shady business, everybody doing it, you know, ape together ape is strong, when ape is strong, police is weak, law enforcement is weak, they can't fight the ape when ape together. Smiley

You are absolutely right, broker is snake oil. It is very big mistake for anyone who comes under this promise trap of broker. We can't always rely on someone for what should I do, should I take risk? should I invest or not? If you have enough knowledge about it, you have done well research before invest in stock then you always stay away from all this promised, and advice of the broker because promises are just medium to attract to those  customers who is already inexperience and who want to become millionaire or billionaire is short term.
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May 13, 2023, 10:10:41 PM
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market

They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund? The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich.

I told broker this is snake oil, and it is over. He respond it is not, you see, everybody too is doing this shady business, everybody doing it, you know, ape together ape is strong, when ape is strong, police is weak, law enforcement is weak, they can't fight the ape when ape together. Smiley
Normally, stock market losers cannot receive a refund unless the loss was caused by fraudulent or illegal operation. Another thing that can provide investors refund is if the stock were covered by insurance.
Investments are inherently risky just like cryptocurrency, and investors must be ready to accept losses if the market doesn't perform as anticipated.
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