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May 29, 2023, 10:38:49 PM |
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I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Internet isn't a limitation to bitcoin. Internet is an integral part of bitcoin and Bitcoin would be nothing without it. So saying internet is a limitation of bitcoin is a huge fallacy. Whatever plight you might be facing lies with your government and not internet. The only advise I can offer it's to get a reliable VPN for internet access in other countries
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May 30, 2023, 01:38:11 AM |
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What's this generation with without the internet, the internet is basically an integral part of our lives and it's in no way a limitation for Bitcoin. it is still possible to make a transaction with bitcoin via sms, it just seems that it has not been implemented yet and how many countries are doing it, I'm not sure if it is implemented in India or Africa.
haven't heard nor come across this information, personally I doubt it's authenticity but until I am able to confirm it, I rest my case.
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May 31, 2023, 05:35:30 AM |
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I don't consider what the OP said as a threat to bitcoin because the internet is not only important for bitcoin but important for the whole world. Up to the present time, most of our professions, jobs as well as our daily living needs need the internet. Without the internet, our world would go back to the stone age, and it would take us thousands of years to rebuild from scratch without the internet. I don't believe that just because the government wants to destroy bitcoin, the government makes that stupid decision. I'm not really worried about that at all.
Turning off the internet is obviously not an option for a government only to stop Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies from prospering within a country or a region. As you said, almost every single thing these days require the internet as we are living in a digital world and there is technology in almost everything that we use in our daily lives apart from all the businesses and industries. Also, traditional financial institutions that are banks, can't operate without the Internet as well, and I don't think that a government would want the banks to shut down or start using only papers and landlines for all their operations which isn't possible at all.
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May 31, 2023, 06:18:22 AM |
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Not everything has to be involve to Bitcoin. I think it's a government issue that has nothing to do with Bitcoin. Although the internet is required to manage bitcoins.The country you live in may have government-run internet services down.But you can use other internet services. A country's government will never shut down all the internet in their country, because today it is impossible to do anything without the internet. Maybe there is some error in the government internet due to which the internet service is down now.I don't think it's permanently closed, maybe temporarily.Hope the government will solve this problem soon.
Government have alot to do for internet, that is why sometimes I said if governments wants to bridge the existing of bitcoin they can, buy making websites of bitcoin to be errors when you login or type anything related to bitcoin, so I believe that its things that will erupt bitcoin existence
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May 31, 2023, 08:01:05 AM |
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I don't consider what the OP said as a threat to bitcoin because the internet is not only important for bitcoin but important for the whole world. Up to the present time, most of our professions, jobs as well as our daily living needs need the internet. Without the internet, our world would go back to the stone age, and it would take us thousands of years to rebuild from scratch without the internet. I don't believe that just because the government wants to destroy bitcoin, the government makes that stupid decision. I'm not really worried about that at all.
Turning off the internet is obviously not an option for a government only to stop Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies from prospering within a country or a region. As you said, almost every single thing these days require the internet as we are living in a digital world and there is technology in almost everything that we use in our daily lives apart from all the businesses and industries. Also, traditional financial institutions that are banks, can't operate without the Internet as well, and I don't think that a government would want the banks to shut down or start using only papers and landlines for all their operations which isn't possible at all. I used to think about this, but honestly, it is impossible because the internet plays a hugely important role in almost every industry in the world. A global shutdown of the internet is not possible, the world economy will even collapse, let alone bitcoin or the banks, and governments will never let that happen just because they want to destroy bitcoin. Bitcoin is not a terrorist-grade threat that governments must resort to as a last resort. So I also agree that the internet is not the limitation of bitcoin.
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Crypt0Gore
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May 31, 2023, 12:31:32 PM |
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I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Internet isn't a limitation to bitcoin. Internet is an integral part of bitcoin and Bitcoin would be nothing without it. So saying internet is a limitation of bitcoin is a huge fallacy. Whatever plight you might be facing lies with your government and not internet. The only advise I can offer it's to get a reliable VPN for internet access in other countries You nailed it newbie, the problem isn't the internet but the country that OP is from, he can get rid of this problem in two ways and one is more convenient than the other. 1. He can leave that country behind and move to another if you really want to build a foundation around Bitcoin and crypto, I have see too many people leaving their motherland and move to a foreign country in search of a better life. 2. He can subscribe to a satellite internet providers instead but this have it's cost and also you will need to be in a remote area where there is less activities because your satellite dish will be outdoors for it to get a good signal everyday and people will see it, with gossips going around people will know that you are the only one using the internet, in a country that doesn't want it, sounds like it's against the law in the country? its on you to make a good decision, if the internet is limiting your potential or opportunities you need to get your ass out of that country before you get too old and can't fo anything anymore.
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May 31, 2023, 01:42:38 PM |
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The cryptocurrency industries market deal with internet providers , without internet, they will be no digital currency, which Bitcoin is a digital assets which one make the use of the internet across the globe for any given transaction through buying and selling as the case maybe. Therefore no internet, Bitcoin will not be function, which is impossible, because internet has come to exist here on the planet earth and no government can shut internet down.
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May 31, 2023, 03:44:04 PM |
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How is that possible? Are they disabling it just temporarily? because if it's no internet, your problem is not only using bitcoins, you have lots of major problems if you lose your internet in your country. As for bitcoins, if you are just planning to hold them, then you don't have any problem at all because you just need to secure and store them somewhere safe. but if you planning to make some kind of gig like accepting bitcoins as payment as everybody did in their community in recent months, then you don't have a choice but to stop your dream because it won't really work since most people out there don't know how to transact bitcoins in online mode.
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May 31, 2023, 07:12:55 PM |
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the only option is to wait until everything gets better and the Internet will function as before or look for alternative communication options, starlink has already been mentioned here or other satellite communication options. If everything is really bad then you should think about moving or transferring your data about exchanges and wallets to a trusted person in another country. At least there will be a reserve.
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May 31, 2023, 07:13:24 PM |
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The cryptocurrency industries market deal with internet providers , without internet, they will be no digital currency, which Bitcoin is a digital assets which one make the use of the internet across the globe for any given transaction through buying and selling as the case maybe. Therefore no internet, Bitcoin will not be function, which is impossible, because internet has come to exist here on the planet earth and no government can shut internet down.
So far from the truth that government will going to shutdown internet the whole country with no valid reason. Internet connection is very important and in the modern days, people feel like they can't leave without it. But there's still possibility of having of no internet especially if there's a war just like what happened in Ukraine. I thought that we can't do any transactions of Bitcoin without internet but it really possible nowadays since there are some people who really find alternative ways to fix this issues. You can check this link for more details: 4 Ways To Use The Bitcoin Network Without An Internet Connection
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May 31, 2023, 07:30:58 PM |
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Not just BTC, the internet this days controls a whole lot, and lack of connectivity will do lot of havoc in terms of economic damages and this will result to a lot of loses. The world has become a global village and the internet is very much needed to achieve this global inclusiveness.
yes' the internet is really needed by the world, because without the internet in my opinion it will cause havoc especially when it comes to business and economy. and I also can't imagine if the internet in this world is dead because in my opinion buying and selling btc transactions will also be difficult if the internet is off. and I hope that the internet will not die. Nothing will happen to the internet, the internet is here to stay. Definitely, economy, defence amongst others will be adversely affected if the internet goes down. Unimaginable damages will be done. So it's not just BTC that will get affected if the internet goes down.
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May 31, 2023, 08:35:43 PM |
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The cryptocurrency industries market deal with internet providers , without internet, they will be no digital currency, which Bitcoin is a digital assets which one make the use of the internet across the globe for any given transaction through buying and selling as the case maybe. Therefore no internet, Bitcoin will not be function, which is impossible, because internet has come to exist here on the planet earth and no government can shut internet down.
In practice what you have written is true but there are other uncommon alternatives if traditional internet coverage is lacking, for example blockstream has started its satellite coverage to synchronize the nodes or you could try a mesh network or a very risky hypothesis using the radio frequencies. Let's say that if the internet were cut, there would be big problems for the functioning but it can be curbed in some way.
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May 31, 2023, 08:47:30 PM |
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I don't consider what the OP said as a threat to bitcoin because the internet is not only important for bitcoin but important for the whole world. Up to the present time, most of our professions, jobs as well as our daily living needs need the internet. Without the internet, our world would go back to the stone age, and it would take us thousands of years to rebuild from scratch without the internet. I don't believe that just because the government wants to destroy bitcoin, the government makes that stupid decision. I'm not really worried about that at all.
Turning off the internet is obviously not an option for a government only to stop Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies from prospering within a country or a region. As you said, almost every single thing these days require the internet as we are living in a digital world and there is technology in almost everything that we use in our daily lives apart from all the businesses and industries. Also, traditional financial institutions that are banks, can't operate without the Internet as well, and I don't think that a government would want the banks to shut down or start using only papers and landlines for all their operations which isn't possible at all. It's true, nowadays the Internet is one of the most vital things because apart from anything, maybe even when someone is used to it, they experience problems, let alone for a day, maybe even an hour, they feel bothered by it. Because as you said in this case, all conditions, be it in terms of work or just to relax, the internet always accompanies us in this matter, so this may not only focus on bitcoin but for the whole. Back to the context of the OP, even though this indeed hinders bitcoin, but this is only personally affected by the internet in the actual country and it is not related to other things, moreover, it is only a small part of what is hampered by total internet paralysis there.
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May 31, 2023, 08:55:46 PM |
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I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Sometimes, I wonder if Democracy exists in your Pakistan, why black out the whole country without internet, that is killing human rights and freedom but what do I know, if the majority support such a motion, I think the minor will suffer for their action, everyone has equal right and equal freedom. This is what Bitcoin stands for, a censorship-resistant but right now, access to the internet is the problem. Have you heard of Elon Musk Stark Net, with this device, you can use the internet anywhere on earth, you don't have to depend on the internet protocol that is supervised by the government, but I doubt if the government will not be against the use of that kind of device because if you have the money and afford 1, you will be able to use the internet anywhere even if your government shut down their own.
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May 31, 2023, 09:13:04 PM |
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This can be a limit for bitcoin. Nowadays, the internet is an indispensable part of our lives. The fact that it affects all aspects of our lives and our global economy makes it a really, frankly, difficult and deprived society without the internet. The Internet has become an essential infrastructure that supports various industries, businesses, and communications worldwide. So some governments have concerns about bitcoin, and then shutting down the internet is impossible. This is an extreme thing that is only harmful and can severely affect the entire economy of a country if it is really done.
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May 31, 2023, 09:48:32 PM |
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I don't consider what the OP said as a threat to bitcoin because the internet is not only important for bitcoin but important for the whole world. Up to the present time, most of our professions, jobs as well as our daily living needs need the internet. Without the internet, our world would go back to the stone age, and it would take us thousands of years to rebuild from scratch without the internet. I don't believe that just because the government wants to destroy bitcoin, the government makes that stupid decision. I'm not really worried about that at all.
Turning off the internet is obviously not an option for a government only to stop Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies from prospering within a country or a region. As you said, almost every single thing these days require the internet as we are living in a digital world and there is technology in almost everything that we use in our daily lives apart from all the businesses and industries. Also, traditional financial institutions that are banks, can't operate without the Internet as well, and I don't think that a government would want the banks to shut down or start using only papers and landlines for all their operations which isn't possible at all. It is true that in today's generation it is impossible for the government of every country to remove the internet just because of bitcoin. Because many will be hit and affected by the lack of internet. So until now, other governments are still working on ways to control bitcoin but none of them work because of the decentralization that Bitcoin has and the technology that it has in the blockchain. Maybe if Bitcoin becomes centralized for sure there will be a limit to it. It's just that it's not really going to happen.
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May 31, 2023, 09:56:16 PM |
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How is that possible? Are they disabling it just temporarily? because if it's no internet, your problem is not only using bitcoins, you have lots of major problems if you lose your internet in your country. As for bitcoins, if you are just planning to hold them, then you don't have any problem at all because you just need to secure and store them somewhere safe. but if you planning to make some kind of gig like accepting bitcoins as payment as everybody did in their community in recent months, then you don't have a choice but to stop your dream because it won't really work since most people out there don't know how to transact bitcoins in online mode.
Besides, we can find a way to have it. But being on a situation or in a place where all our actions and decisions are limited, that was a dying ambition and no way we commit freedom. I would say it is very unfortunate to someone who lives in a country where we can't find freedom but something we need to accept is that life isn't fair enough. We can see some people fully enjoy their life while some are struggling hard to survive. Yes, stopping such a decision is a big help as OP can do nothing, he'd rather look for another opportunity instead.
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June 02, 2023, 08:15:44 PM |
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While it is true that Bitcoin requires internet connectivity to function, I think this is a limitation that can disrupt internet services in certain situations such as natural disasters or government-imposed restrictions for one reason or another. But, here's the truth. This is where the government really comes in, if they fully support this adoption, not only that, but satellite-based internet is trying to help make Bitcoin more accessible in areas with limited connectivity, because there are huge benefits that Bitcoin offers, which are still significant.
Bitcoin can't disrupt the internet but internet problems can disrupt our Bitcoin activities. Some of the issues came from our network provider but others are natural like you said disasters. There is also man-made which is the government restriction. I say this one is only minor because people can use VPN and similar tools to bypass those restriction. I don't think the internet of the country will be cut out because many business are already relying on it but the government can only restrict some sites which they hate or a part of their new law. Satellite internet is helpful on some areas where it's almost impossible to install a tower for internet connection but I think it's a bit costly so poorer governments will still struggle to avail it.
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June 02, 2023, 09:59:30 PM |
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It is undeniable that internet and electricity are two very important things because without this, it can be a big problem. We cannot iperate and do any transaction without them. Moreover, this is not only for the impact for Bitcoin but also almost all activities especially related to global activities. That is because this is a product of digital technology.
but, with this, I am sure that this will be always going on because this world has been always developed and developing, so this internet will always exist
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It is undeniable that internet and electricity are two very important things because without this, it can be a big problem. We cannot iperate and do any transaction without them. Moreover, this is not only for the impact for Bitcoin but also almost all activities especially related to global activities. That is because this is a product of digital technology.
but, with this, I am sure that this will be always going on because this world has been always developed and developing, so this internet will always exist
I also agree, electricity and the Internet is the most important factor in the current era. Without electricity, many Industries will be incapacitated since all industry that is dependent on machinery will stop functioning. That also includes the internet providers. While it is true that Bitcoin requires internet connectivity to function, I think this is a limitation that can disrupt internet services in certain situations such as natural disasters or government-imposed restrictions for one reason or another. But, here's the truth. This is where the government really comes in, if they fully support this adoption, not only that, but satellite-based internet is trying to help make Bitcoin more accessible in areas with limited connectivity, because there are huge benefits that Bitcoin offers, which are still significant.
Bitcoin can't disrupt the internet but internet problems can disrupt our Bitcoin activities. Some of the issues came from our network provider but others are natural like you said disasters. There is also man-made which is the government restriction. I say this one is only minor because people can use VPN and similar tools to bypass those restriction. Bitcoin is created not to disrupt the internet but the financial system. Aside from that Bitcoin relies on the internet for its network activities. Without the internet Bitcoin won't function as it was intended miners won't be able to confirm transaction without internet connection. I don't think the internet of the country will be cut out because many business are already relying on it but the government can only restrict some sites which they hate or a part of their new law. Satellite internet is helpful on some areas where it's almost impossible to install a tower for internet connection but I think it's a bit costly so poorer governments will still struggle to avail it.
Almost all activities especially communication relies on the Internet. So the government will think twice about removing it just to supress Bitcoin. The government will lose more than the gain from stopping BTC if they disable internet in their country.
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