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May 12, 2023, 07:31:48 AM
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The recent accusation by US Ambassador Reuben E. Brigety that South Africa sent arms to Russia is making investors sell off the South African rand and bonds. Investors are scared that the US and its allies will hit the country with severe economic sanctions. The rand has lost value since the news was published, the currency is now 19.3250 against the dollar, its weakest in three years.

If it is confirmed that South Africa sent weapons and ammunition to Russia, the country will suffer economic problems because of sanctions. It will also be a big blow to the African economy because South Africa is the economic powerhouse of Africa. Many South African countries like Zimbabwe, Botswana Mozambique, Namibia, Eswatini, etc, depend on South Africa economically. South Africa also employs a greater number of Africans because they have many striving multinational firms.

As an African, I pray this accusation is not true because a sanction on South Africa is a sanction on the entire Africa.

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May 12, 2023, 09:03:13 AM
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South Africa being a member of the Five leading economies BRICS with an economy huge enough to influence the whole Africa doesn't mean Africans in different countries should fidget over their sanctions. Aside the presence or help of South Africa, countries like Seychelles, Nigeria, Libya, Egypt have large economies enough to sustain them in businesses. Like you mentioned the neighboring countries to Africa like Zimbabwe should be worried about this new development. Because it has been confirmed by the USA that South Africa gave out Arm to Russia to continue invading Ukraine. They're close allies and it'll be difficult for South Africa not to help Russia with weapons during war times despite their promise to remain neutral.



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May 12, 2023, 04:42:45 PM
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No mate, south Africa is no longer the economic hub of Africa, recent news from South Africa points to a more volatile state of things, as they have lost the will for peaceful co-existence, and also it important to take into account their relationship with another African country.

South Africa has a high record of violent attacks against foreigners most especially those from other African countries e.g. Nigeria, Ghana, and other English-speaking African countries name (Xenophobia).

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May 12, 2023, 06:09:45 PM
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South Africa being a member of the Five leading economies BRICS with an economy huge enough to influence the whole Africa doesn't mean Africans in different countries should fidget over their sanctions. Aside the presence or help of South Africa, countries like Seychelles, Nigeria, Libya, Egypt have large economies enough to sustain them in businesses. Like you mentioned the neighboring countries to Africa like Zimbabwe should be worried about this new development. Because it has been confirmed by the USA that South Africa gave out Arm to Russia to continue invading Ukraine. They're close allies and it'll be difficult for South Africa not to help Russia with weapons during war times despite their promise to remain neutral.



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The situation is concerning, if there are allegations or issues that are detrimental to a country it is deemed necessary to carry out an investigation to ensure the truth where the South African Government can investigate the allegations made by the US Ambassador and show evidence that can refute the accusations to maintain economic stability in Africa and mitigate the impact of potential economic sanctions. But I think it's important to wait for further information and developments before jumping to conclusions.

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No mate, south Africa is no longer the economic hub of Africa, recent news from South Africa points to a more volatile state of things, as they have lost the will for peaceful co-existence, and also it important to take into account their relationship with another African country.

South Africa has a high record of violent attacks against foreigners most especially those from other African countries e.g. Nigeria, Ghana, and other English-speaking African countries name (Xenophobia).
South Africa is the country with the highest number of immigrants in Africa. It is estimated that they host about 2.9 million immigrants that reside and work in the country. There are no recent statistics on the number of Nigerians living in South Africa but according to a 2016
estimate about 30,314 stay there. And a Nigerian newspaper puts the population to about  800, 000. But you hardly find South Africans in Nigeria except for those that work in their multinational forms such as MTN and DSTV. We cannot also doubt that South Africa has better infrastructure than most African countries. Businesses have better chances of surviving in that country than most African economies.

If South African economy gets bad about 3 million immigrants will be affected. There will increase in xenophobic crimes. Many Africans might be forced to return to their homeland to add to the number of unemployed. We need peace and stability in South Africa.

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May 12, 2023, 07:10:17 PM
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This has nothing to do with other African countries if South Africa decided to join the BRICS. This suppose not to be the problem of the United States and NATO. I knowndie to sentiment and the United States may want to sanction South Africa for this but that supposed not to be our problem. I still don't know why the United States likes flexing there power even though they are the world power here.

I think very countries has the choice to join any association or group that they want without any issue. If South Africa would be sanctioned for this because they join BRICS then we all going to know that this is based on sentiment.









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May 12, 2023, 07:52:20 PM
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I am not surprised by the S. African actions because they have stated where they stand since the war broke out, they stand with Russia, a lot of people don't know anything about the war in Ukraine they just based their knowledge on what they read on most of the MSM news outlet. This was is a proxy war for the USA and it is being used to launder a lot of money, I just feel sanctioning any country now because they send Ammunition to Russia won't work, just look at the effect of sanctions on Russia and on the world economy at large.


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May 13, 2023, 07:36:27 AM
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According to recent BBC news US ambassador Reuben Brigety said the weapons and ammunition were loaded onto a Russian ship. The report triggered fears that US would take action against South Africa.

Sanction on South Africa means sanction on the entire Africa, I am not saying what is happening that what is true or false, but this sanction by US ambassador to South Africa can ruin their economic stability.

South African President, Ramaphosa, said there would be an independent inquiry into the allegation. And yes it is very crucial to wait for more information and evidences before impose more allegation to South Africa by US.

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If the allegations made by the US ambassador against South Africa are proved to be true, there could be major US sanctions against South Africa. And if the US sanctions come to their country, the economic condition of their country will be seriously affected. But if South Africa had supplied arms to Russia, South Africa would have spoken about it directly, so they would not have supplied arms in secret. Since several other African countries are dependent on South Africa's economy, this can be a threat to other countries including South Africa. But we hope that the United States should investigate the matter thoroughly and not impose such a large ban based on one person's complaint.

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May 13, 2023, 07:53:10 AM
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With superpowers and nation having allied forces and putting economic sanctions for whoever will be seen supporting Russia is what US is trying to do.

That's why even those countries that are close to them except the known ones which is China and North Korea and other allies of it aren't showing that they've got an inch of support to them.

Maybe this is just another accusation that's trying to make some trigger for involve countries to do an issue for them to push something on the South African region.

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Economic sanctions will certainly be a tough thing for any country. Not just south africa but if it's any other bigger country if it accepts economic sanctions then things will get worse. And if this is about South Africa then of course it will greatly affect other African countries there. but let's hope that the issue is not true and hopefully no economic sanctions will be imposed on South Africa.

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Well, the US must just make sure that their accusations are correct, because the South African government already made a Press statement that the Russian boat in the South African harbor where downloading food and supplies for their Russian embassy in South Africa.

South Africa forms part of the BRICS countries, so it is clear where their loyalties are... but economically that is a gamble. Everyone know the USA are in trouble and some countries are trying to distance them from that trouble.... South Africa are one of those countries.  Roll Eyes

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May 13, 2023, 09:19:49 AM
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Well, the US must just make sure that their accusations are correct, because the South African government already made a Press statement that the Russian boat in the South African harbor where downloading food and supplies for their Russian embassy in South Africa.

South Africa forms part of the BRICS countries, so it is clear where their loyalties are... but economically that is a gamble. Everyone know the USA are in trouble and some countries are trying to distance them from that trouble.... South Africa are one of those countries.  Roll Eyes
You are absolutely correct because the latest news is that the US ambassador that made the allegations have apologized to South Africa for making such an allegation without concrete evidence. This is a serious allegation that can ruin the political, social, and economic sectors of a country. South Africa has insisted that they are committed to its political neutrality and Arms Control Act. This might be an intimidation strategy by the West to make South Africa reduce its commitment to the BRICS alliance or an administrative or diplomatic blunder by Reuben E. Brigety.


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If this allegation is true,it means that South Africa economy will be shattered apart,and this will bring big effect on the Africa economy at large. If SA really did the ammunition supply to Russia secretly,then they should be ready to face the consequences because US wouldn't tolerate such assist from SA to Russia. It will be like a challenge to the US government and NATO who is strongly supporting Ukraine. SA should have known this,that if they are caught it will bring sanction on them from doing business with the western world and should have made preparation for whatever the outcome will be,and if nothing has been put in place to face the consequences, I must say that SA made a wrong move that will affect the whole Africa due to their own selfish interest. If it is not true, then we don't need to worry ourselves about this accusation because the truth will be revealed with time and there will be no sanction on SA.

the US ambassador that made the allegations have apologized to South Africa for making such an allegation without concrete evidence.
But now that the is allegation from the US ambassador have started affecting their economy who will take responsibility of it and what will the US do to revive SA rand and how will SA be compensated. The ambassador is a basket mouth.
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The recent accusation by US Ambassador Reuben E. Brigety that South Africa sent arms to Russia is making investors sell off the South African rand and bonds. Investors are scared that the US and its allies will hit the country with severe economic sanctions.

They have been putting surveillance on other countries as well to know if they are taking any underground deal with Russia in other for them to give sanction, but i don't want to believe if this fact is yet established and confirmed that they have any engagement with Russia which in other hands shouldn't be a call for panic becsu they will receive a warning sign before imposing sanction on them.

The rand has lost value since the news was published, the currency is now 19.3250 against the dollar, its weakest in three years.

This might be a coincidental experience since many countries have undergone this, it may be due to poor economy performance, inflation drop in the country's GDP and many other reasons.

If it is confirmed that South Africa sent weapons and ammunition to Russia, the country will suffer economic problems because of sanctions.

South Africa will definitely face an ugly consequence if found to be involved, also i don't think South Africa has the tenacity and capacity to render arms this much to Russia because it's also not the best in possession of enough arms among other top countries.

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May 13, 2023, 01:23:10 PM
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I still don't know why the United States likes flexing there power even though they are the world power here.

I think very countries has the choice to join any association or group that they want without any issue. If South Africa would be sanctioned for this because they join BRICS then we all going to know that this is based on sentiment.

The U.S. is in a proxy war with Russia and they don't plan on directly getting involved so sanctions are the next viable solution. Nevermind that sanctions have already weakened the U.S. dollar beyond repair, which would in turn strengthen Russian RUB. They simply see sanctions as a winning strategy and accept the collateral damage. BRICS is a danger to the U.S./NATO, so even if South Africa were not supplying arms to Russia, the U.S. doesn't want additional countries to form close alliances with adversaries.
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I hope that this news is not true, or else many Africans will be affected by that matter and it is not a joke. It's already a poor country, and it will sink even further into poverty if that happens to be true. And the number one hit there is the economy of African countries, that's for sure. So does that also mean that there is still no confirmation were the rumor is true? I really hope it's not true. Good luck in the African country.

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Well, on the political environment we never know exactly who is telling the truth, or if any of them is telling the truth... I believe all you can do is to expect South African government is doing the right thing thinking on the welfare of their citizens and neighboor nations. That is, to hope the government isn't helping Russia with ammo and weapons on the backgrounds, imagining nobody is going to discover it.

That would be a big mistake from them, because once the west forces find out, there will be lots of negative consequences on the way... It really doesn't worth for South Africa the risk of helping Russia and being dragged to the hell with them side by side.

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According to recent BBC news US ambassador Reuben Brigety said the weapons and ammunition were loaded onto a Russian ship. The report triggered fears that US would take action against South Africa.
Sanction on South Africa means sanction on the entire Africa, I am not saying what is happening that what is true or false, but this sanction by US ambassador to South Africa can ruin their economic stability.
South African President, Ramaphosa, said there would be an independent inquiry into the allegation. And yes it is very crucial to wait for more information and evidences before impose more allegation to South Africa by US.

Tell me what is your priority:
- some dubious economic stability of South Africa,
- or the fact that South Africa helps, and in fact is a partner of the country of an international terrorist, and support world terrorism. As well as the real massacres of the civilian population, the total destruction of the peaceful cities of Ukraine, as well as the destruction of the industrial infrastructure and economy of the largest European country?
Let's compare the real impact of the two processes on the world economy, and for one and the moral side of both processes?

PS. As I understand it, you will oppose punishing a robber and a murderer who attacks you, because this can lead to a deterioration in the standard of living in his family? I understand correctly ? Smiley

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The recent accusation by US Ambassador Reuben E. Brigety that South Africa sent arms to Russia is making investors sell off the South African rand and bonds. Investors are scared that the US and its allies will hit the country with severe economic sanctions. The rand has lost value since the news was published, the currency is now 19.3250 against the dollar, its weakest in three years.

If it is confirmed that South Africa sent weapons and ammunition to Russia, the country will suffer economic problems because of sanctions. It will also be a big blow to the African economy because South Africa is the economic powerhouse of Africa. Many South African countries like Zimbabwe, Botswana Mozambique, Namibia, Eswatini, etc, depend on South Africa economically. South Africa also employs a greater number of Africans because they have many striving multinational firms.

As an African, I pray this accusation is not true because a sanction on South Africa is a sanction on the entire Africa.

Whether it's true or not because Africa is much closer to Russia these days. Or indeed as a form of support to get out of the dollarization zone. Africa already knows the consequences and knows how America will act against them. Instead of America being concerned about the country's economic condition, Russia has come and given its open arms to rebuild the financial system. The goal is to beat back the crisis that America is experiencing. At present, as we all know, America is busy printing money on a large scale, which means that it does not have time to take care of foreign countries before they really restore public confidence in the resilience of the declining value of the dollar.

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