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May 18, 2023, 05:26:22 PM |
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1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process. This is already implemented when verifying one's identity. The platform always ask to present a selfie or even a video interview to verify the person. 2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today. The problem with this approach is that a person can play in different platform so limiting them in one gambling platform have no effect because they will just move to another gambling platform to continue playing. 3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing. Some casinos have this notification. I have experienced this thing in some casinos when I was playing more than an hour, I received a pop up reminding me of how long I have been playing on their platform. With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.
I doubt it because a person hooked on gambling can easily bypass and ignore the 2 and 3 suggestions you made.
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May 18, 2023, 08:40:18 PM |
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With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.
Sorry, but I have to Disagree. A gambler is a gambler. These features won't actually bring difference if we talk about leading to " worst addiction". Believe me, most casinos don't really prioritize how their users will end up because of an obvious reason that " only us" can control ourselves, and if we allow ourselves to fall into the trap of gambling, who's the one to blame on that situation? I appreciate though that some features will be added to help users lessen the addiction but still, we are talking about a gambling platform here and the priority is to always make their users addicted to the platform. Besides let's clarify that when we say addiction, it's not totally mean a sh*t gambler. There are addicted gamblers that are still responsible for their lives outside of gambling.
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May 18, 2023, 08:45:56 PM |
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I think ive heard some casinos that has features that was called responsible gambling on which they will monitor the activity of the gambler is he is already over betting or spending too much time on gambling on which it is really good but i forgot what casino is that and also the problem with this is that for sure only few casino will implement this because the profit that they will earning is reduced unless they really care on gamblers. Though if there are really regulations about it then it could be a good use to prevent addictions.
I saw a "responsible gambling" logo on some casinos such as stake dot com but I don't think stake is monitoring its player's activity as I think I've been over betting in the past. There's also many gamblers there whom I see in the chat about complaining the same thing ( over betting ) but they also have a feature called self exclusion. You can talk more about this matter in their customer support although I know that this is not enough because we can still create a new account or check out other online gambling platforms. It's fine if only a few casino cares about the sake of their customers. They might earn a lesser income but they can still get a good impression for us and maybe they can get a special award for this with some cash reward but this must be a secret so that only the genuine ones are going to be qualified.
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May 18, 2023, 09:27:13 PM |
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All the features mentioned seems to be fair and it can help with the control and intimating users about the gambling activities. However along with the features there'll be options to enable and disable the feature. This once again makes the gambling activity to be much based on the user mind and not on the casino's choice.
Users were requested to prove their identity is good, but the competence in the gambling sites make it more feasible for gamblers. Every platform during the signup process gives a detailed briefing on terms and conditions. It is the users who understand it well and move forward, because the prime objectives found were about the risk and to gamble responsibly.
I guess having KYC and enabling ban exclusion are good enough. We cannot expect for online casinos to put a lot of restrictions because they are doing a business, and gambling addiction is not their responsibility but it’s certainly for gamblers themselves. So once you enter into their site and start gambling, it’s already expected that you have well understood their terms and conditions as everything that concerns about the gambling site and the gamblers are already found and listed there.
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May 18, 2023, 09:42:11 PM |
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2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today. 3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.
With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.
This is like suggesting to casinos to cut their profit, and for the players to limit their enjoyment it's not democratic to suggest these things, casinos are not educational portals that will teach you how to gamble properly they can suggest but they cannot implement measures that will control your urge to gamble, and teach you how to gamble responsibly, you are on your own when you decide to play in casinos. I doubt this will be implemented, there's no business sense in implementing these features.
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May 18, 2023, 11:50:27 PM |
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All the features mentioned seems to be fair and it can help with the control and intimating users about the gambling activities. However along with the features there'll be options to enable and disable the feature. This once again makes the gambling activity to be much based on the user mind and not on the casino's choice.
Users were requested to prove their identity is good, but the competence in the gambling sites make it more feasible for gamblers. Every platform during the signup process gives a detailed briefing on terms and conditions. It is the users who understand it well and move forward, because the prime objectives found were about the risk and to gamble responsibly.
I guess having KYC and enabling ban exclusion are good enough. We cannot expect for online casinos to put a lot of restrictions because they are doing a business, and gambling addiction is not their responsibility but it’s certainly for gamblers themselves. So once you enter into their site and start gambling, it’s already expected that you have well understood their terms and conditions as everything that concerns about the gambling site and the gamblers are already found and listed there. Online casinos are always ready to make the money that is why most of them are always bothered about government restrictions and heavy regulations that could make them lose some customers especially those that do use big funds to bet and lose them frequently. No gambling platform is ready to put a big restrictions on the customers betting activities unless they find out otherwise that the customers has breached there terms and conditions and also earning from them illegally. Casinos are always ready to welcome bother new and old customers without second thought except otherwise.
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May 19, 2023, 02:16:21 AM |
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I think ive heard some casinos that has features that was called responsible gambling on which they will monitor the activity of the gambler is he is already over betting or spending too much time on gambling on which it is really good It's good on the gamblers side but bot encouraging on the casino side because that's part of the ways they make more money to their casino business, for an average gambler, i think settings control measures shouldn't be a difficult task to do, some cannot just set some limits to how far they go in gambling or any other activities they do. the problem with this is that for sure only few casino will implement this because the profit that they will earning is reduced unless they really care on gamblers. Though if there are really regulations about it then it could be a good use to prevent addictions.
Most ofbthe casinos will not even support this at all because it will not work in their favour and talking about addiction to the gamblers involved, it's better they don't have the money at all at hand because they will always finds a means to ensure that they gambles either in physical or online. That is really the sad truth that casino owners dont really care about addiction on the gambers nor the government as they have no control on this things that is why we our selves should control this so that we dont get addicted. We knew really that they have less effort on doing this as they only thinking about the profit that brought to us and you are right if this was implemented then they have less profit as we knew that other gamblers will find other platform for less hassle.
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May 19, 2023, 04:39:04 AM |
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These features are indeed very helpful. These would significantly limit the exposure of people to gambling. If I may add, there should also be betting limits. This is to make sure that huge losses are prevented.
The big question, however, is this: will these features be favorable to casinos and betting sites? Do you think they would agree to these? I don't think so. Even on the side of gamblers, are they going to be in favor of this? To the majority, I doubt.
But it would indeed probably be better if there's a maximum amount of money and time imposed to every gambler.
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May 19, 2023, 09:37:38 AM |
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But it would indeed probably be better if there's a maximum amount of money and time imposed to every gambler.
What would be the criteria for every gambler to give them the maximum time and amount of money and can it be requested of course casinos will look at their profit if they will impose the limitation and they will not likely give any more bonuses and free spins for those who want to wage more because they have limitations to impose. Players will look for the next best casino to play if they are going to get a limit on the casino they are currently playing, you cannot stop a player who is excited to play, it's hard to impose limitations on players who are willing to spend in exchange for a chance to win and be entertained.
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May 19, 2023, 10:58:44 AM Last edit: July 07, 2023, 08:52:04 AM by slapper |
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I think ive heard some casinos that has features that was called responsible gambling on which they will monitor the activity of the gambler is he is already over betting or spending too much time on gambling on which it is really good but i forgot what casino is that and also the problem with this is that for sure only few casino will implement this because the profit that they will earning is reduced unless they really care on gamblers. Though if there are really regulations about it then it could be a good use to prevent addictions.
I saw a "responsible gambling" logo on some casinos such as stake dot com but I don't think stake is monitoring its player's activity as I think I've been over betting in the past. There's also many gamblers there whom I see in the chat about complaining the same thing ( over betting ) but they also have a feature called self exclusion. You can talk more about this matter in their customer support although I know that this is not enough because we can still create a new account or check out other online gambling platforms. It's fine if only a few casino cares about the sake of their customers. They might earn a lesser income but they can still get a good impression for us and maybe they can get a special award for this with some cash reward but this must be a secret so that only the genuine ones are going to be qualified. Your sharp-eyed dissection of this casino game – responsible gambling – has me intrigued. Indeed, these safety features can be lifesavers for gamblers riding the edge. But does the house – the casino – really benefit from them? Business-wise, some would say it's a dud. But hold on, think about the reputation. If a casino's seen as a pusher, feeding addictions, what's the cost to their brand, to their coffers? Might that hit harder than a brief dip in profits? Self-ban – it's a big thing. But you hit the nail on the head, folks. Players can just sign up again, switch places. Maybe we need to think bigger, more cooperation, casinos and regulators together, a shared self-ban system. Casinos, should they get a pat on the back for doing the right thing? Or is it just their duty, with consequences for dropping the ball?
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May 19, 2023, 11:22:43 AM |
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1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process. 2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today. 3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing. When i got to look into your title and this point raised by you, i see a little contradiction because the casinos will not want to implement on this points above listed by you, why should they, going through this to the extent of taking ones picture is totally uncalled for considering ones privacy except if the gambler is such that wouldn't mind on these and because not this whole process, some gamblers may decided not to use such casino and look for another that does not gave such requirements as verifications. With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.
It's nobthe casino's responsibility or the government in helping a gambler to control his emotions for gambling addiction, you went there all by yourself to gambles the way you like, gambling is all about freedom and choice.
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These features are indeed very helpful. These would significantly limit the exposure of people to gambling. If I may add, there should also be betting limits. This is to make sure that huge losses are prevented.
The big question, however, is this: will these features be favorable to casinos and betting sites? Do you think they would agree to these? I don't think so. Even on the side of gamblers, are they going to be in favor of this? To the majority, I doubt.
But it would indeed probably be better if there's a maximum amount of money and time imposed to every gambler.
There are a number of casinos that provide rakeback and also have bonus prizes for active users, aka having a certain level, so why add that feature which will obviously hurt the casino after all there is no point in adding features that ultimately limit and remind gamblers to stop, the casino always make promotions and others so that gamblers continue to play all the time. then by adding a warning feature to stop or something else it is very contradictory. We'll see if there are casinos who do that, I don't think there will be because the casino profits come from active gamblers including gambling addicts, it doesn't matter if they become addicts or not it's clear as long as they play and lose it's an advantage for the casino and the casino gives back prizes in the form of bonuses and rakeback, that's fair enough
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Casinos have given a chance to their members who want to limit their gambling so that members can immediately use it. But I think only a few use that feature because those who play gambling in casinos want to have fun playing gambling.
Casino shoudn't make such restrictions to be general, they can provide the options for members to select so it helps them with their gambling addiction but it shouldn't be a default settings or it'll chase away customers. People like freedom and such features doesn't support freedom. Also the casino can monitor users account and another they find to be gambling out of control, they can send them emails or pop up messages to enable the safety options so they don't get addicted to gambling. I think people will love such message. It'll show people that the casino cares about their well being and doesn't only want to make money from them gambling on their sites. People are very sensitive and any decisions that makes them feel secure, they'll welcome.
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May 19, 2023, 01:20:40 PM |
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There are a number of casinos that provide rakeback and also have bonus prizes for active users, aka having a certain level, so why add that feature which will obviously hurt the casino after all there is no point in adding features that ultimately limit and remind gamblers to stop, the casino always make promotions and others so that gamblers continue to play all the time. then by adding a warning feature to stop or something else it is very contradictory. We'll see if there are casinos who do that, I don't think there will be because the casino profits come from active gamblers including gambling addicts, it doesn't matter if they become addicts or not it's clear as long as they play and lose it's an advantage for the casino and the casino gives back prizes in the form of bonuses and rakeback, that's fair enough Agree, every casino will definitely prioritize giving bonuses and the like to active gamblers who already have a certain level. After all, anything that poses a risk to the gambler is not the responsibility of the casino. Gambling addiction is a risk that must be faced by every gambler so that whatever happens, only the gambler can react or be held accountable. Bonuses such as weekly or monthly and rakeback are given by the casino to gamblers depending on the level rating and also the number of bets used because the bigger the bonus and rakeback the greater the amount. This is why many gamblers dare to spend more money to gamble because when they lose the casino still gives a small return. So whether the gambler becomes addicted or loses this huge amount of money is his own fault. And these features are not a feature that must be implemented by casinos.
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I am hoping that people who gamble can still prevent themselves from being addicted on it, there are still a lot of things that we can do to prevent addiction and those gambling websites or application can also help their customer by doing these things.
I am interested in this point. in most cases, connoisseurs who like this one hobby. often, they were previously unaware that they had become part addicts. some of them even deny that they are addicts even though their activities are always excessive. meanwhile, what you say, is not easy at all. because, to prevent someone from becoming an addict is difficult. why, yes, this cannot be separated from the understanding of the gamblers themselves. and how a gambler defines gambling for himself. but one thing for sure, gambling activity is a fun hobby. triggers our adrenaline, which produces an excess of dopamine. if, most gamblers who are able to rely on themselves. that means, there are not many people who become addicts. but the fact is, it is the opposite. at least, self-awareness is a factor that helps a person not to get caught up in his addiction. whatever type of addiction, be it drugs or gambling. Regarding the ideas the features you mentioned in this post, for point 1 it seems still possible and relevant. however for points 2 and 3, is the casino willing to do it, I don't think so.
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I am hoping that people who gamble can still prevent themselves from being addicted on it, there are still a lot of things that we can do to prevent addiction and those gambling websites or application can also help their customer by doing these things.
1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process. 2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today. 3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.
With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.
Just think in the practical way, do you think it's an impossible task for someone to pass selfie restriction when they really want to gamble? They can throw a 10 dollar bill to someone and make them to be their pseudo identity. So if we really need to stop them then all time face surveillance can be the realistic choice to prevent the minors from gambling. Time limit won't be effective because someone can bet a million dollar in single bet and lose all at once so instead of thinking that sites should stop the addiction why the individuals can't stop being ignorant with their actions.
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All the features mentioned seems to be fair and it can help with the control and intimating users about the gambling activities. However along with the features there'll be options to enable and disable the feature. This once again makes the gambling activity to be much based on the user mind and not on the casino's choice.
Users were requested to prove their identity is good, but the competence in the gambling sites make it more feasible for gamblers. Every platform during the signup process gives a detailed briefing on terms and conditions. It is the users who understand it well and move forward, because the prime objectives found were about the risk and to gamble responsibly.
I guess having KYC and enabling ban exclusion are good enough. We cannot expect for online casinos to put a lot of restrictions because they are doing a business, and gambling addiction is not their responsibility but it’s certainly for gamblers themselves. So once you enter into their site and start gambling, it’s already expected that you have well understood their terms and conditions as everything that concerns about the gambling site and the gamblers are already found and listed there. I think even the posters or warnings that they post on their websites for players to be responsible gamblers are maybe because the regulations imposed on the casinos by the authorities and licensing firms, otherwise, they would probably not want anyone to be responsible with their money since they only earn money if the gamblers keep losing. Casinos will literally run out of business if they start stopping gamblers after a certain point of losses and don't let them wager anymore only because they want to protect them from addiction or losing more money, they would never do that obviously.
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May 22, 2023, 10:00:16 AM |
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Gambling is now really accesible nowadays, it starts with the tradition gambling wherein you are going to specific place to play personally or to gamble personally. It is now easily accessible because it already developed and we can now gamble online, there are so many websites online where we can gamble and [1] the woeful fact is that people with any age can now gamble, if the website requires the idendtity then they can also use their parents ID or someone the know with valid ID.
Ive seen a qoute saying "One has to know the risks and how to protect themselves,” she said. “[Gambling] does have alluring qualities that people have to be aware of" this one says everything, there are a lot of gambler who have lost their lives becaus of addiction, addiction turns into depression this is not already a joke because it can really kill people. This is really destructive as it is now accessible 24/7 nowadays for only using phone or computer.
I am hoping that people who gamble can still prevent themselves from being addicted on it, there are still a lot of things that we can do to prevent addiction and those gambling websites or application can also help their customer by doing these things.
[2] 1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process. 2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today. 3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.
With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.
[1] What you've described is technically fraud. Someone who is using someone else's identity without their permission would quickly be stopped in their tracks. Children who are gambling by using their parents ID and getting away with it in the long-term would be deplorable on the parents part and would be unlikely on the child's part (where would they get the money to continue?). I doubt that many friends are lending their ID's to their other friends for the sake of being able to gamble too. [2] Introducing KYC and identity submission in order to be able to play is not a viable way to deter gambling. Those who are desperate to play will find a way, like you described above. Encouraging KYC and thus the violation of privacy that all users (even gamblers) deserve, is not a way to prevent addiction.
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May 22, 2023, 10:30:17 AM |
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There are a number of casinos that provide rakeback and also have bonus prizes for active users, aka having a certain level, so why add that feature which will obviously hurt the casino after all there is no point in adding features that ultimately limit and remind gamblers to stop, the casino always make promotions and others so that gamblers continue to play all the time. then by adding a warning feature to stop or something else it is very contradictory. We'll see if there are casinos who do that, I don't think there will be because the casino profits come from active gamblers including gambling addicts, it doesn't matter if they become addicts or not it's clear as long as they play and lose it's an advantage for the casino and the casino gives back prizes in the form of bonuses and rakeback, that's fair enough Agree, every casino will definitely prioritize giving bonuses and the like to active gamblers who already have a certain level. After all, anything that poses a risk to the gambler is not the responsibility of the casino. Gambling addiction is a risk that must be faced by every gambler so that whatever happens, only the gambler can react or be held accountable. Bonuses such as weekly or monthly and rakeback are given by the casino to gamblers depending on the level rating and also the number of bets used because the bigger the bonus and rakeback the greater the amount. This is why many gamblers dare to spend more money to gamble because when they lose the casino still gives a small return. So whether the gambler becomes addicted or loses this huge amount of money is his own fault. And these features are not a feature that must be implemented by casinos. Sure, casinos are all about the green. Caring for the gamblers? It's all part of the big game. But do they get a free pass on any damage to the gamblers? It's a hoot, isn't it? Consider this: Casinos, like all businesses, gotta have some social responsibility. That means promoting smart gambling, stopping addiction. Isn't that the ticket, given that happy, healthy gamblers keep the wheels spinning? Bonuses, a bit of loss return, it eggs folks on to gamble more. But should this be seen as a one-man show where the gambler carries all the risk? Time to poke the bear, ask some tough questions about the casino-gambler tango. A debate worth a thought, don't you think?
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May 29, 2023, 10:51:13 AM |
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Time limit won't be effective because someone can bet a million dollar in single bet and lose all at once so instead of thinking that sites should stop the addiction.
I dont consider betting million dollars at one time as addiction, it is just you just have. lot of money which can make you bet that amount of money, addiction is something you can focus anymore on doing other things just because that thing is consuming a lot of your time and cannot make you think good anymore because of being addicted on which time limit might be useful in that case. why the individuals can't stop being ignorant with their actions.
I know it is all part of the user or the gambler but then if they are already addicted they cannot think well anymore which may result in impulsive decisions, well this ia just an opinion that could help a gambler.
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