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May 16, 2023, 06:47:37 AM
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Long ago, I had created a list of sportsbooks with presence on bitcointalk along with a few categories to help fellow bitcointalk members look through them and decide on which sportsbook to choose. That list has been outdated for a while and I think it could be improved upon. Want to put some more effort in and work on it, in the later half of this week and weekend. I'd like to recreate a list with up to date information. Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.

Here's the old list

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May 16, 2023, 06:56:02 AM
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Long ago, I had created a list of sportsbooks with presence on bitcointalk along with a few categories to help fellow bitcointalk members look through them and decide on which sportsbook to choose.
For Bitcointalk members? When only the gambling board is enough for us to know some trustworthy crypto gambling sites. I am not saying your work is not useful though, some people (which are not on Bitcointalk) can know your site which can help them if they are looking for trustworthy crypto gambling sites.

Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.
Which category are you talking about? Can you give examples.

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May 16, 2023, 07:12:41 AM
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Long ago, I had created a list of sportsbooks with presence on bitcointalk along with a few categories to help fellow bitcointalk members look through them and decide on which sportsbook to choose.
For Bitcointalk members? When only the gambling board is enough for us to know some trustworthy crypto gambling sites. I am not saying your work is not useful though, some people (which are not on Bitcointalk) can know your site which can help them if they are looking for trustworthy crypto gambling sites.
Maybe check the previous list and let me know, if a similar list would be useful or not. Thanks Smiley

Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.

Which category are you talking about? Can you give examples.
That was a general statement. I just wanted to know what people would like to see as categories in a list of sportsbook, to compare among them. You could check the categories that I have previously chosen in the url at the bottom of my OP, it will redirect you to my previous list. You'll get a better idea on what could potentially be categories for sportsbooks list

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All I am really looking for when choosing a place to place a wager is if they accept my country, KYC, have the markets I wish to bet on, have some sort of decent reputation, and if they have decent odds.

If any 1 of my needs are not there I will not bet on that sportsbook.

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May 16, 2023, 08:51:09 AM
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I'd like to recreate a list with up to date information. Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.

That sounds like a great initiative. It's helpful to have an updated and comprehensive list of sportsbooks for the community. Personally, I would suggest updating the existing list and removing any casinos that don't have an active presence in the Bitcointalk community. There's no point in promoting bookmakers that aren't active or don't have a representative here to address user questions and provide support when needed.

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May 16, 2023, 08:55:29 AM
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All I am really looking for when choosing a place to place a wager is if they accept my country, KYC, have the markets I wish to bet on, have some sort of decent reputation, and if they have decent odds.

If any 1 of my needs are not there I will not bet on that sportsbook.
These are good criteria you have there, all are surely needed as conditions to accept a sportsbook even though more are still needed. Besides, you made mention of KYC which thrills me, many would say they would prefer the no-KYC option, and this always baffles me as to what kind of thinking has those people. With KYC, you are better of in terms of some regulations for better assurance because no regulated casino would dare to void KYC. Still, one has to do their research to be sure of this.

Aside from what you specified, and with my choice gauge, it's good that the sportsbooks offer good bonuses and must be with a better condition. The site must not have any security flaws or too much bad reviews online. The deposit and withdrawal must be instant and the fees associated with them must be ridiculously low.

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May 16, 2023, 09:14:10 AM
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Personally, I would suggest updating the existing list and removing any casinos that don't have an active presence in the Bitcointalk community. There's no point in promoting bookmakers that aren't active or don't have a representative here to address user questions and provide support when needed.
This makes sense. Since the existing list will be for members of this forum, it will be good to update the list in line with those that have a presence here.

it's good that the sportsbooks offer good bonuses and must be with a better condition.
I like bonuses, but that is not what I first consider because following bonuses can make one make a wrong decision about a casino or sportsbook to gamble on.

The site must not have any security flaws or too much bad reviews online.
The reviews must also sound genuine.

The deposit and withdrawal must be instant and the fees associated with them must be ridiculously low.
They must also have options for deposit and withdrawal.

In addition, they must have a good customer service team that have a good response time. It can be irritating to lay complaints and have to wait for days to get a response. Good customer service is important.

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Read and know their rules first.

Based of my experience active in the gambling section (Sportbook vs Casino user), most of problem are getting on Sportbook user. There a lot reason sportsbook getting target with various reason.

Example, trying to abused the casino by multi to passed limit gambling.

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May 16, 2023, 09:43:22 AM
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Just as others have said, when choosing sportsbook the first thing I check is if the sportsbook accepts my country or not.

Second is the amount of bonuses that they give users, I'm not saying that they should be giving out bonuses everytime but at least once in a while they should make bonuses available for users.

Minimum withdrawal amount and the fee they charge also play a role in me choosing a sportsbook, I like those with little or no minimum withdrawal amount because I don't want a scenario when I won't be able to withdraw from the sportsbook just because my balance is not up to the minimum withdrawal limit.

And lastly they should be reputable.

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May 16, 2023, 10:01:51 AM
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All I am really looking for when choosing a place to place a wager is if they accept my country, KYC, have the markets I wish to bet on, have some sort of decent reputation, and if they have decent odds.

If any 1 of my needs are not there I will not bet on that sportsbook.

I would love exactly the same standards except that I would expect from a sport book to which I will be loyal to them if they offer me everything I need,a sort of ongoing and recurring bonus,kinda like weekly and monthly bonus.I would expect this as in times when I will be low on money like I found exactly myself in this moment,when Champions,Europa League games are on sight,the monthly bonus which can be a range from 10-70 dollars depending on the rank of the person will be enough to satisfy my needs.

Another critical point from the sportbook would be how much markets they offer and nowadays I must admit all the major ones offer all sort of betting options.

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May 16, 2023, 10:05:51 AM
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All I am really looking for when choosing a place to place a wager is if they accept my country, KYC, have the markets I wish to bet on, have some sort of decent reputation, and if they have decent odds.

If any 1 of my needs are not there I will not bet on that sportsbook.

Okay, I have a question for you. Do you do KYC on the sportsbook? As far as I know, All licensed casinos ask for KYC. Or maybe I am wrong? Let's say a casino has a solid reputation and they are on the market for a long time. They accept your country and have the market you want. But, They need KYC to sign up. Would you choose them to play?

@vennali, I've checked your old list of sportsbooks. You have added freebitco.in as a sportsbook. I am not sure if they are a sportsbook. They have a casino named Dplay. But that's a different platform.

If you want to hear my opinion about what I prefer and like to know from your future list.
It's essential to know if the casino is licensed or not. So, Having a License Yes/No will be appreciated. Moreover, I would like to see what license they got. I want to know if they require you to do a KYC. KYC Yes/NO will also be a great addition to your list. I guess all sportsbooks have Live support these days. But, if any casino doesn't. Please mention them with a Yellow Star.

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May 16, 2023, 10:27:37 AM
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Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.
Here's the old list

This list will be all-in one lost if you incorporate all the details that I will list below.
  • Loyalty/VIP Benefits
  • Minimum & Maximum Deposit/Withdrawal
  • Wagering Requirements on Deposit
  • KYC Requirements
  • Minimum & Maximum Bet
  • License Type
  • Restricted Country
  • Live Support Availability

The list I made are the typical details being inquired on a new casino/sportsbook. Your list will be a masterpiece if you can give all that details. Good luck!

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May 16, 2023, 10:51:44 AM
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Long ago, I had created a list of sportsbooks with presence on bitcointalk along with a few categories to help fellow bitcointalk members look through them and decide on which sportsbook to choose. That list has been outdated for a while and I think it could be improved upon. Want to put some more effort in and work on it, in the later half of this week and weekend. I'd like to recreate a list with up to date information. Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.
Here's the old list

OP, in as much as you are doing a good job and trying to update the list to current active sports book, I would strongly advise you personally look into the sport book and conduct due diligence on them because any of the sport book listed be wanting as a result of their previous or past activities, it would definitely mess the whole list you have listed which I believe you would not like to see.
For me, sports book with the following features I would want to see;

KYC free,
Active live support not bot support,
Live online game where you watch and see as you play,
Flexible terms and conditions,
Ability to make refund deposit of a player on request if player is denied of win and at will decides to withdraw back deposit.


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May 16, 2023, 11:12:30 AM
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That sounds like a great initiative. It's helpful to have an updated and comprehensive list of sportsbooks for the community. Personally, I would suggest updating the existing list and removing any casinos that don't have an active presence in the Bitcointalk community. There's no point in promoting bookmakers that aren't active or don't have a representative here to address user questions and provide support when needed.
If you check the lists, you will noticed that there are some gambling sites that are not on this forum there too. Some gambling sites may not be on this forum again but still be a good gambling site. Personally I can not use a gambling site that is not active on this forum, but the creteria that the OP is using is different, he is using how excellent the services given by the gambling sites to their customers. There may be some gambling sites that are not on this forum but having good services too.

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I'll start with the casino that is at the top of your thread:

Cloudbet

despite being an old casino, in their thread the OP is no longer active since January 09, 2023 and their behavior is very unpleasant, I've seen many complaints about them, you can see this very sad and pitiful post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.msg62166917#msg62166917

as the complainant recounted, it took him 1 year waiting for his problem to be resolved and just when he thought his nightmare was finally over was when he got more heartbreak from Cloudbet support, and a story that makes anyone angry about Cloudbet, and how the Cloudbet has not yet appeared to deny what this complainant said so we have to believe that the complainant is telling the truth for now, something shocking, but the complaints against this casino do not stop here, we can see more complaints here:

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.cloudbet.com

I would recommend that you do not put Cloudbet at the top and in case you put them on the list they deserve to be at the bottom with a high risk warning

tru.bet

it disappeared

Maverick Games

they have new ann thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435912.0

buff.bet

casino scam, hope you remove them from the list

betbtc.co

BetBTC is closed!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=856175.msg57697292#msg57697292

Acedbets.io

the casino does not work and there were scam accusations

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.msg60204468#msg60204468

Fairlay.com

there were scam accusations

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg60591650#msg60591650

the casino does not work

Coinbet24.com

it's weird that it's an old casino and there's nothing about it on the internet



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2 - Sportsbet.io

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May 16, 2023, 11:49:16 AM
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Long ago, I had created a list of sportsbooks with presence on bitcointalk along with a few categories to help fellow bitcointalk members look through them and decide on which sportsbook to choose.

Do we need to go far when we can easily achieve having more than enough from the casinos present on the forum here, this is what we eeded to do by just making a thorough search in some of them ad decided on one or two that are of reputable standards and use than the oes we aren't used to.

I'd like to recreate a list with up to date information. Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.

You can go ahead with your research as well in giving a list but know the reputation of the ones you will be enlisting because this aspect matters alot to gamblers as no one will want to receive a bad recommendation or wuch that may turn to scam later by it developers.
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May 16, 2023, 12:04:37 PM
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All I am really looking for when choosing a place to place a wager is if they accept my country, KYC, have the markets I wish to bet on, have some sort of decent reputation, and if they have decent odds.

If any 1 of my needs are not there I will not bet on that sportsbook.

The list linked in the OP gave a lot of information about many different sportsbooks and it is great in order to make an informed decision; but this line with your needs when you look for a place to wager is minimal and still contains the most important thing to know in just one sentence.

Specially that they accept your country (the info about VPN is important too) and the KYC rules that they will follow if you win big. The other points are obvious, but don't forget about the first ones because they can make a huge difference and become a big win into a big lose.

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May 16, 2023, 12:27:58 PM
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First, it's the betting options, when there is a wide range of betting options to choose from.
I consider the odds and if the site is user-friendly. Bonuses and promoters; bonus and free bets first attract me, ongoing promotions.
I love live streaming and in-play betting.

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Complete list of bitcoin sportsbooks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

Some of the top ones:


"A" rated books

nitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports)  
betcoin.ag A+ (2013)
mBet.io A- (2017) Horse racing.
    
"B"rated books
stake.com B (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
Bitsler.com B- (2015)
fortunejack.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
betfury.io C+ (2020)
cloudbet.com C+ (2013)
roobet.com C+ (2019)
duelbits.com  C (2020)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
Loot.bet  C (2016)
maverickgames.com C (2020)
Owl.games C (2021)
Rollbit.com C (2021)
Trustdice.win C (2019)
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
Betnomi.com C- (2020)
Latinbet24.com C- (2020)
parlayplus.com C- (2019)
Wolf.bet C- (2019)

Criteria used to rate a book.

1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.

2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.

The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.

3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.

4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.

5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.

6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.

7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.

8. Traffic  - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.

9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.

Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.


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May 16, 2023, 01:21:55 PM
 #20

Long ago, I had created a list of sportsbooks with presence on bitcointalk along with a few categories to help fellow bitcointalk members look through them and decide on which sportsbook to choose. That list has been outdated for a while and I think it could be improved upon. Want to put some more effort in and work on it, in the later half of this week and weekend. I'd like to recreate a list with up to date information. Please do contribute on what categories would you like to see to compare sportsbooks.


Theres lot of sportsbook right now are showing up and for me as a gambler ill choose those sportsbooks has an odds booster this gives more potential winning to me because if the odds are sure game for your side, its ideal to boost this to make more profit, some people would like to have an odds which is sometimes unrealistic which most commonly seen only in the YOLO bets which means an underdog match possible to make a table turn games.  Another factor, of course, is to have a supported game and not only limited to soccer, football and basketball, but sports books must also need to keep e-sports too, like Dota, Csgo, and recently one of the trends is the Mobile legends or ML. Lastly, for me, they have an ANN thread here to make it easier to check if they have recent issues or problems before making a deposit and events.

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..CASINO....SPORTS....RACING..
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