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May 20, 2023, 10:35:29 PM
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I feel soory for her, but unfortunately, whining and screaming is not going to help! She got tricked by professional scammers and there isn't much she can do to get her money back.
Those scammers know where to conduct their tricks and know whom to trick. They will let you win few rounds before they start ripping you of.
Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

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May 21, 2023, 05:05:53 AM
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Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

That doesn't excuse scam gambling sites available, and this op's case doesn't make all irl gambling houses as scam. Point being, there are always exceptions.

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May 21, 2023, 10:27:13 AM
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Petty people are found both online and offline, one should stay away from them. It was woman's fault to bother with these people in first place, just like if you get scammed online, gullibility is to be blamed.
well blaming someone will never change the reality that we are loser in some time.
there are others that succeed while many are losing but still gambling continue to grow and that is because of the nature as we are excited and looking for higher chances  of winning.
I agree that we must blame gullibility and change this in future to not become addicted .

If there is one thing I learned over the years of gambling, it is that the house always win. Sure, there were times where I won huge amounts of money but at the same time, I lost more than I gained in the process of gambling.

At the end of the day, gambling is a choice that is made by the person. He/she embraces the risks that may follow in the course of their actions given the nature of the game itself. The odds and results are what define your subsequent actions as this would either make or break your whole situation.

The gambling casino does not give into the business a free money that's the reason why they earn a lot of because of the potential winning to these players who are actively playing gambling and hoping to get a huge amount of winnings, players perspective has a different thing some of them want to play because they want to get entertained and satisfied themselves through winning gambling no matter what happen the outcome is they are still win because they achieve their goal to play but some people play because they want to earn more money even though they have the limited number of supplies with these they want to play gambling because this is the fastest way to earn and the fastest way to lose too. People taking risk and wondering if they win or not at the end its a win win for the casino because of the players keep playing and hoping this time they win.

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May 21, 2023, 10:56:53 AM
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It can be a strategy - the gambler can make risky bets with high odds to get big prize. It is possible situation and even i have a friend who doesn`t bet if the odd less 2.5. Of course his win rate is about average, but as he says - he has surplus in his bets. The problem if the gambler tries to return his money and increase risk and bets. And of course you have to make a research before bet.
I think your friend has a high commitment in every bet he chooses even though the risk is high but I'm sure he is good at analyzing and predicting overall.
Choosing odds 2 over it is the right choice for him because he usually already has a way to recover the losses if there is a surprise or your friend chooses on the main sports bet or on the favorite club?
But even though it's too risky it has become a choice.
He analyzes lots of information about event he plans to bet. Both teams, their history, form, last matches, injuries, table, etc. He makes such analyze for several matches every day and looks at the odds. Sometimes he is waiting to bet online. Mostly he bet 1-3 matches per day and wins about a half. It is enough to get profit. But as for me - he spends so many time that he can get much more money making some analyze for the money being a worker.
I told about it just to point such opportunity.

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May 21, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
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My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??
No casino will refund your money under any circumstances when you bet and you lose, you lose, it's your choice that you bet and lose your money your being irresponsible causes you to lose your money a casino will just offer you to play

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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
You should be responsible enough to think for yourself, even if you are persuaded or asked to play whatever outcome you should accept, what if you hit the jackpot and won a lot of money you will be thankful that they persuade or asked you to play.
Gambling is always a choice and if ever you’re being lured to gamble, then you should be responsible enough whatever the outcome of your decision. And to note that gambling is more on losing than gaining profits, so it’s already an initiative to never gamble an amount that you can’t manage to lose. I guess the lady is a first time gambler and she has no idea that gambling could emptied her pocket when all she believes that gambling will give her huge profits after consistent betting.

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May 21, 2023, 11:10:14 AM
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Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

That doesn't excuse scam gambling sites available, and this op's case doesn't make all irl gambling houses as scam. Point being, there are always exceptions.

And that's where everything is going mess. If there is an exception from one player and not the other, then the rule is biased and unclear. There should be clear black and white for proper regulation.

Those schemes can be in every place where poverty is at high. It's true that gambling is a choice and when you've lost, you just can't ask a refund to the operators.

The same goes with the typical gambling that we does that if we lose, there's no way the casino will give us that money back. That's why they've got features of self exclusion for those addicted gamblers.

As OP have shared a story, it consists of bought tricksters and gambling.
And that is a lesson for everyone out there that if you are going to gamble, bet, or take any kind of risk be it your money, property, or your psychology. You only have yourself to be responsible for your own.

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May 21, 2023, 05:31:08 PM
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Gambling is always a choice and if ever you’re being lured to gamble, then you should be responsible enough whatever the outcome of your decision. And to note that gambling is more on losing than gaining profits, so it’s already an initiative to never gamble an amount that you can’t manage to lose. I guess the lady is a first time gambler and she has no idea that gambling could emptied her pocket when all she believes that gambling will give her huge profits after consistent betting.
From there, we can conclude that gambling does not provide benefits but will give us defeat, so we must try to prevent too many losses. And gambling is indeed a choice, and we don't need to choose gambling to make money because many people have tried it but failed to make money and instead lost a lot of money. This is different from if we work, we can earn money for our lives. In gambling, we will only lose the money we earn at work. But she should have known that gambling could cause her to lose money instead of making big profits. Hopefully, she can learn from his experience.

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May 21, 2023, 06:08:31 PM
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Gambling is better than shitcoins. At least it is fun.
The outcome of both are basically similar, you are most probably going to lose everything eventually, but if you talk about the fun part, maybe you are right that one can have some fun if playing on a slot machine with good graphics and a pretty high multiplier possibility which makes it fun even to lose money in dead spins since you at least have the hope to get maybe 10,000x in any spin.

With useless cryptocurrencies that are generally called shitcoins, you get to have no fun at all, you put your money at risk by buying them and then just sit and pray that somehow they succeed and provide you with some profit. If your prayers work out, you are good, and if they don't, you get nothing other than a few billion useless tokens.

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May 21, 2023, 06:13:43 PM
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We call them street magicians in my area and what their are specialized in to swindle unsuspecting gullible people,  i have a friend who was a victim of their practice sometime ago,she was an u undergraduate and has gone to the bank to withdraw her school fees in cash to pay at the bursar office only for her to get attracted to to this set of people who deceived her into spending some part of her fees on gambling.
At first she won a couple of those games but at the end their end up stealing all here remaining balance in cash.

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Those schemes can be in every place where poverty is at high. It's true that gambling is a choice and when you've lost, you just can't ask a refund to the operators.

The same goes with the typical gambling that we does that if we lose, there's no way the casino will give us that money back. That's why they've got features of self exclusion for those addicted gamblers.

As OP have shared a story, it consists of bought tricksters and gambling.

Those schemes are indeed popular in places where poverty is common and where people is also uneducated on how gambling works and even the tricks used by those crooks to rob anyone blind.

Here in this region on my country there was a legendary tricker who used three coca-cola taps and a little ball, he shuffled it and dared you to guess where it was. This happens in a town by the river.

At first he made you believe that you were going to pocket some money by playing, until suddenly the ball never appeared again and you were left out with nothing in. His crooks assistants were also there to intimidate.

Every time he was going to lift the tap he said to his victims: "Say Coca-Cola!
And then he would shout again: "Let the ball disappear!"

The whole thing rhymes in Spanish.
I get the idea of that game and it's like that they will have their own versions of their game and of course, their own rules. That's really the trick there, they'll make you believe that you can baghold a lot of money but then, that's the gullible part.

When you're winning already, you can't go out from there until you're gonna lose some money for them. And that's the sad part that these tricksters will not let you pass or go even if you want to.

Those schemes can be in every place where poverty is at high. It's true that gambling is a choice and when you've lost, you just can't ask a refund to the operators.

The same goes with the typical gambling that we does that if we lose, there's no way the casino will give us that money back. That's why they've got features of self exclusion for those addicted gamblers.

As OP have shared a story, it consists of bought tricksters and gambling.
And that is a lesson for everyone out there that if you are going to gamble, bet, or take any kind of risk be it your money, property, or your psychology. You only have yourself to be responsible for your own.
Correct.

There's no other people to blame for any result that you'll get but only yourself. So, before you gamble always remember that the results are not guaranteed and it could be good or mostly bad results.

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May 21, 2023, 07:27:43 PM
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Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

That doesn't excuse scam gambling sites available, and this op's case doesn't make all irl gambling houses as scam. Point being, there are always exceptions.
There will always be exceptions. I didn't mean all online casinos can be trusted or they can't scam their customers.
What I meant is that gamblers when playing online games, at least they have the option to play provably fair games which allows them to verify the results. This way the will avoid game fixing and results manipulation. There are still other ways for casinos to scam, though.

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It can be a strategy - the gambler can make risky bets with high odds to get big prize. It is possible situation and even i have a friend who doesn`t bet if the odd less 2.5. Of course his win rate is about average, but as he says - he has surplus in his bets. The problem if the gambler tries to return his money and increase risk and bets. And of course you have to make a research before bet.
I think your friend has a high commitment in every bet he chooses even though the risk is high but I'm sure he is good at analyzing and predicting overall.
Choosing odds 2 over it is the right choice for him because he usually already has a way to recover the losses if there is a surprise or your friend chooses on the main sports bet or on the favorite club?
But even though it's too risky it has become a choice.
He analyzes lots of information about event he plans to bet. Both teams, their history, form, last matches, injuries, table, etc. He makes such analyze for several matches every day and looks at the odds. Sometimes he is waiting to bet online. Mostly he bet 1-3 matches per day and wins about a half. It is enough to get profit. But as for me - he spends so many time that he can get much more money making some analyze for the money being a worker.
I told about it just to point such opportunity.
I am guided a lot by the statistics and predictions of a particular sport, for example , what they say is very good, but you have to have a lot of time to dedicate yourself to the sport or favorite sport and know, in the case of the most controversial fight like the one yesterday where Haney won Lomachenko was a unanimous decision , where it was seen that the winner was the American, and Lomachenko himself said that Hnaey considers him good, but not one of the best in the world, he is a boxer well, but he is not among the best , there is a lot of controversy and boxing fans did not like this decision but the statistics and probabilities showed that the winner would be Haney.

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I have not heard of source game before may be it's because of my region since street gambling is a ban and illegal in my jurisdiction,  but then we may have to open up ourselves to some further questions about whether or not it the greed that drives us into them instead of paying close attention we decide to risk taking chances.

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Gambling will always stay gambling, so never chase more profits but expect more losses when you bet. That’s how gambling works, and once you chose and decide to gamble, be ready for multiple losses but few gains. However, if you see yourself losing, then never cried and shout and blame other people for that. But learn from your losses instead and never be persuade again to gamble on a huge amount that you cannot manage to lose.
Reckless gambling will lead to bankruptcy or huge financial loss including but not limited to losing life savings, these bad scenarios have happened many times as you can check the related forum boards for finding examples. I usually never like the type of gamblers who keep chasing losses and just hope for a max win to recover previous losses. It is a win-win situation for casinos while gamblers keep losing everything slowly thanks to the house edge factor.

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Gambling will always stay gambling, so never chase more profits but expect more losses when you bet. That’s how gambling works, and once you chose and decide to gamble, be ready for multiple losses but few gains. However, if you see yourself losing, then never cried and shout and blame other people for that. But learn from your losses instead and never be persuade again to gamble on a huge amount that you cannot manage to lose.
Reckless gambling will lead to bankruptcy or huge financial loss including but not limited to losing life savings, these bad scenarios have happened many times as you can check the related forum boards for finding examples. I usually never like the type of gamblers who keep chasing losses and just hope for a max win to recover previous losses. It is a win-win situation for casinos while gamblers keep losing everything slowly thanks to the house edge factor.

Yeah that emotion that push the gambler up to aggressively try to recover those lose capital, it leads them to lose more from time to time, and like what you mentioned it's always a win-win situation for the house since they always got a good cut from each time a gambler place their bets.

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I feel soory for her, but unfortunately, whining and screaming is not going to help! She got tricked by professional scammers and there isn't much she can do to get her money back.
Those scammers know where to conduct their tricks and know whom to trick. They will let you win few rounds before they start ripping you of.
Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

She was not really smart enough to decipher there gimmicks and tricks. She also lost her phone according to OP. From the looks, it seems those guys do not operate on a neutral level because I see no reason why some one can not be able to call back to their normal consciousness when they start sensing such scenarios. If I am not mistaken there is more to this incidence than one could think. Those guys weren't ordinary.  I will use my experience as an example.  In my country, most people who engaged in that exercise mostly use black magic so as to be able to convince and attract passers-by to play their scam games and these people fall for them and I noticed they do not just play and go, they play till every dime in their possession is exhausted living the players their unsuspecting victims with nothing on them.
The players gets frustrated after exhausting their funds and would regain consciousness and sometimes leads to serious arguments and confrontation but they have already played he games and lost everything so no one would talk in their favor but advise them to be careful next time.
That is the nature of such scheme. They do not have any office and no track or trace to locate them.
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I feel soory for her, but unfortunately, whining and screaming is not going to help! She got tricked by professional scammers and there isn't much she can do to get her money back.
Those scammers know where to conduct their tricks and know whom to trick. They will let you win few rounds before they start ripping you of.
Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

No body who happened to be a scam victim ever expect such coming, but some people are too flexible and kind in believing in others too easily, they are too loosed and don't consider the probability that those they are dealing with could surprised them in a negative way because they never had a bad intention on them or suspect them, tis are the category of newbies and unexposed novice that always assum thesame mindset they are having is what those they are dealing with are having with them not until they got scammed, there's need for more awareness on scam to all our newbie about their new developing techniques and strategies they use in attacking newbies in gambling.
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I have not heard of source game before may be it's because of my region since street gambling is a ban and illegal in my jurisdiction,  but then we may have to open up ourselves to some further questions about whether or not it the greed that drives us into them instead of paying close attention we decide to risk taking chances.
Gambling is mostly ban in some area which is not practised except it is done without the awareness of the government or people knowing about it. Whatever results we get from gambling, we should be ready to admitting the result since we are not forced to go into gambling. Those that are making money from gambling are doing that because they are prepared for whatever outcome the get from it whether is for a lose or it's for s gain.

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May 22, 2023, 11:59:25 AM
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I have not heard of source game before may be it's because of my region since street gambling is a ban and illegal in my jurisdiction,  but then we may have to open up ourselves to some further questions about whether or not it the greed that drives us into them instead of paying close attention we decide to risk taking chances.
Gambling is mostly ban in some area which is not practised except it is done without the awareness of the government or people knowing about it. Whatever results we get from gambling, we should be ready to admitting the result since we are not forced to go into gambling. Those that are making money from gambling are doing that because they are prepared for whatever outcome the get from it whether is for a lose or it's for s gain.
By knowing that gambling is mostly prohibited, we already know what the options are for us, whether to decide to gamble or not to come into contact with gambling. If we decide to gamble, we must be prepared for all the risks, including if later we are caught gambling by the officers, and they catch us and give us punishment. But that didn't deter many people, and they immediately stopped because some of them continued to gamble even though the officers had punished them.

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