Don't gamble if you don't have patience

[CarnagexD]

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People tend to use the word addict as if we were talking about a flu, it comes and goes, and it is not like that, if you are addicted you should not gamble, it is a problem-disorder, then gambling is not the problem, it is the individual.

On the other hand, patience is only one item of several necessary to have a happy gambler life.

The problem is, in gambling it is very complex. not only about addiction, not also a matter of patience or not. it all boils down to each individual, where sometimes there are times when emotions will approach us depending on the conditions and situations when involved in a gambling session. there are times, where we are in trouble either because of deposits or withdrawals with various factors that cause it. it all comes back to us as individuals, where there is always a risk involved. where dopamine will play an important role, where our patience will be tested and at the same time our psychology is disrupted. which in essence, what the OP said in this thread is a commonplace part whether in gambling or other matters.

But overall I agree with what you said, especially regarding the theme of our discussion about patience. Patience is really needed in gambling for gamblers, where when we are experiencing defeat, let alone streaks. there too, patience will be needed to temper our emotions so we don't do things that are out of control. Patience is also useful for me personally when I'm trying to analyze a soccer team that will compete. how should I do, gather all the latest information and then consider it. of course, it requires patience when doing research. one more thing, addiction is an individual problem and as you said. the point is the problem, not in the gambling. therefore, anything that is done in excess is not good. "in this case it's gambling"

"the point is the problem, not in the gambling" however it's the gambling that triggers that problem. Once that gambling becomes that cue, it will always be the initiator of that problem. I am not saying that gambling is bad. I am saying that those people that lose their life once in gambling will more likely to lose their life and funds again gambling. It's not just about the patience but how they see gambling as a whole.

If they always  rush and try to force things down to make things happen immediately. That people lacks patience and they are those who gives their money out to the casinos.

[Slow death]

everyone is different.. patience is needed in gambling.. if we win of course we take the prize and leave a little for the deposit.. if we lose we don't need to rush to play again.. wait for the right time to gamble.. keep us away out of greed.. let's just say that we gamble just for entertainment in our spare time

when many people hear that you need to be patient, they think that even when they are losing they should not give up, on the contrary they should keep playing and putting more money to recover the loss, but unfortunately time is just consuming more money and they are psychologically draining and they even become addicted to gambling, but even when they are at rock bottom, they still have the spirit that they must be patient and that eventually they will start winning if they only manage to find out where they are going wrong

what makes it sadder in all of this is that as people don't like to comment or say that they have problems, they don't say that they can't stop playing, they don't say that they need help, so their problem of addiction to video games bad luck will only be discovered after a long time when the situation becomes serious and most of the time it is discovered when it becomes difficult to reverse the bad mental health condition of the person, it may happen that the person goes crazy and is no longer able to speak and think straight due to the fact that I spend many hours with gambling concerns and this serious health condition is difficult to cure

[ethereumhunter]

Indeed.

If a person let his emotions control him, it will be a disaster. When emotions are involved, most people tend to be irrational. Sometimes, people have this tendency to let their urges win because they feel like it's the right thing to do or simply because it will make them happy and satisfied. But sometimes, it shouldn't be tolerated especially when it comes to financial matters. You cannot just follow what you want because it will make you feel better, rather you should prioritize your needs over your wants. In gambling, this applies too. You should only bet according to your financial capability and not according to how you want to.

That is why we must always have clear limits when playing gambling and never try to break them. It should be done by everyone who wants to gamble so that they don't tend to let themselves be swayed by emotions for any reason. And if our finances are insufficient, we don't need to play gambling, especially if we see that we are impatient in doing something so that we don't experience problems when gambling. The desire to win at gambling is normal because it also happens to everyone who plays gambling. But we have to look at the reality where many people have tried it but didn't succeed at all and instead had to lose a lot of money before they could win.

[TopTort777]

This topic is already long open and being misunderstood the purpose. The patience he is talking is the wait when your account doesn’t have instant withdrawal. He lose all his profit including bankroll just because he can’t wait to process his withdrawal and continue gambling until he bust.

I see... I did not get clear about the story in the end. He had balance, waited for withdrawal, but still made a deposit. What was that money circulation all about?

Anyway, does it really called patience? Wasnt it simple greed? It would be about patience, if he would hit withdrawal, confirm everything, close browser and wait. Maybe spent more money on CPFP or replace by free to get money quicker. Maybe cancelling previous withdrawal and creating new with a faster withdrawal. Thus made his withdrawal stuck for investigation. That would be the reason to talk about patience and impatience in gambling.

However, while waiting, he decided to win even more, which ended with loosing everything. His story is about greed. Just another 1,000,001 case of one persons greed.

[len01]

That is why we must always have clear limits when playing gambling and never try to break them. It should be done by everyone who wants to gamble so that they don't tend to let themselves be swayed by emotions for any reason. And if our finances are insufficient, we don't need to play gambling, especially if we see that we are impatient in doing something so that we don't experience problems when gambling. The desire to win at gambling is normal because it also happens to everyone who plays gambling. But we have to look at the reality where many people have tried it but didn't succeed at all and instead had to lose a lot of money before they could win.

in simple terms is always able to control yourself in all matters of emotion. this self-control is able to provide patience in all matters related to gambling and betting.
like what OP did when the withdrawal was not finished he tried to gamble again accidentally started to get emotional and spent the money again.
mature thinking is needed every time in gambling.

[lienfaye]

Indeed.

If a person let his emotions control him, it will be a disaster. When emotions are involved, most people tend to be irrational. Sometimes, people have this tendency to let their urges win because they feel like it's the right thing to do or simply because it will make them happy and satisfied. But sometimes, it shouldn't be tolerated especially when it comes to financial matters. You cannot just follow what you want because it will make you feel better, rather you should prioritize your needs over your wants. In gambling, this applies too. You should only bet according to your financial capability and not according to how you want to.

That is why we must always have clear limits when playing gambling and never try to break them. It should be done by everyone who wants to gamble so that they don't tend to let themselves be swayed by emotions for any reason. And if our finances are insufficient, we don't need to play gambling, especially if we see that we are impatient in doing something so that we don't experience problems when gambling. The desire to win at gambling is normal because it also happens to everyone who plays gambling. But we have to look at the reality where many people have tried it but didn't succeed at all and instead had to lose a lot of money before they could win.

It's normal to have a desire to win, who don't want to, right? However it should not be your main desire when playing since gambling is risky and having an expectation to grow your money would not be right due to the said reason. It is wise to only play using a spare money, so that way even you lose, you'll not have regrets.

Aside from patience to wait for the time that you can withdraw your winnings, it's much important to have self-control. So you can refrain yourself to use your funds to gamble again since the result is not always what you expected it to be.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

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People tend to use the word addict as if we were talking about a flu, it comes and goes, and it is not like that, if you are addicted you should not gamble, it is a problem-disorder, then gambling is not the problem, it is the individual.

On the other hand, patience is only one item of several necessary to have a happy gambler life.

The problem is, in gambling it is very complex. not only about addiction, not also a matter of patience or not. it all boils down to each individual, where sometimes there are times when emotions will approach us depending on the conditions and situations when involved in a gambling session. there are times, where we are in trouble either because of deposits or withdrawals with various factors that cause it. it all comes back to us as individuals, where there is always a risk involved. where dopamine will play an important role, where our patience will be tested and at the same time our psychology is disrupted. which in essence, what the OP said in this thread is a commonplace part whether in gambling or other matters.

But overall I agree with what you said, especially regarding the theme of our discussion about patience. Patience is really needed in gambling for gamblers, where when we are experiencing defeat, let alone streaks. there too, patience will be needed to temper our emotions so we don't do things that are out of control. Patience is also useful for me personally when I'm trying to analyze a soccer team that will compete. how should I do, gather all the latest information and then consider it. of course, it requires patience when doing research. one more thing, addiction is an individual problem and as you said. the point is the problem, not in the gambling. therefore, anything that is done in excess is not good. "in this case it's gambling"

"the point is the problem, not in the gambling" however it's the gambling that triggers that problem. Once that gambling becomes that cue, it will always be the initiator of that problem. I am not saying that gambling is bad. I am saying that those people that lose their life once in gambling will more likely to lose their life and funds again gambling. It's not just about the patience but how they see gambling as a whole.

If they always  rush and try to force things down to make things happen immediately. That people lacks patience and they are those who gives their money out to the casinos.

      -  Whether it's a gambling online casino or a landbased casino, it only becomes bad for a gambler if it brings him ugly results. But when it gives a gambler a win, of course it is a good effect of a gamble.

But there are gamblers who have been gambling for a long time but still haven't achieved the winning they are hoping for so they don't stop believing that one day they will recover or even more all of their losses one day.

[Doan9269]

That is why we must always have clear limits when playing gambling and never try to break them. It should be done by everyone who wants to gamble so that they don't tend to let themselves be swayed by emotions for any reason. And if our finances are insufficient, we don't need to play gambling, especially if we see that we are impatient in doing something so that we don't experience problems when gambling. The desire to win at gambling is normal because it also happens to everyone who plays gambling. But we have to look at the reality where many people have tried it but didn't succeed at all and instead had to lose a lot of money before they could win.

in simple terms is always able to control yourself in all matters of emotion. this self-control is able to provide patience in all matters related to gambling and betting.
like what OP did when the withdrawal was not finished he tried to gamble again accidentally started to get emotional and spent the money again.
mature thinking is needed every time in gambling.

We should learn to have patience while gambling, everything is not done well by rushing into it, at the end of being impatient we loose focus and miss out some opportunities out of our carelessness, this same impatient makes some gamblers developed a greedy taste for winning and they keep loosing instead, some decisions when gambling are not expected to be taken in haste conditions but we need to give a more closer and careful look and approach on them before final decision is taken.

[piebeyb]

We should learn to have patience while gambling, everything is not done well by rushing into it, at the end of being impatient we loose focus and miss out some opportunities out of our carelessness, this same impatient makes some gamblers developed a greedy taste for winning and they keep loosing instead, some decisions when gambling are not expected to be taken in haste conditions but we need to give a more closer and careful look and approach on them before final decision is taken.

I remember my mother's message that if you want to do something, never rush because it won't be good in the end, therefore every time I gamble I don't really want to rush into playing, enjoying the game is something I have fun because my goal is to gamble only just to look for fun and have fun not to multiply money also make money in gambling.

Gambling with a hasty attitude will allow us to lose more opportunities as well as money on the gambling platform, that's why I always advise anyone not to be in a rush in doing anything including gambling, because gambling requires money for betting so make sure to play to enjoy the game because in a hurry you won't be able to enjoy the game too, especially if you lose quickly.

[RockBell]

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I remember my mother's message that if you want to do something, never rush because it won't be good in the end, therefore every time I gamble I don't really want to rush into playing, enjoying the game is something I have fun because my goal is to gamble only just to look for fun and have fun not to multiply money also make money in gambling.

Lack of patience has drowned so many and I believe that is one of the best pieces of advice not to rush anything in life, our personality is similar to playing gambling for fun, because sometimes I feel like once money is involved people go crazy, if you look where some people place bets you will actually see how people are greedy and desperate for money, want to use a small amount of money to win millions with very large odds, which is nothing but pure greed.

Gambling with a hasty attitude will allow us to lose more opportunities as well as money on the gambling platform, that's why I always advise anyone not to be in a rush in doing anything including gambling, because gambling requires money for betting so make sure to play to enjoy the game because in a hurry you won't be able to enjoy the game too, especially if you lose quickly.

Gambling without patience is what the majority does, and that is why they keep losing bets. They omit so many principles, even gambling has a principle, I know of few people who draft out games and analyze the way some clubs are playing before they place a bet, not just selecting games and placing a bet without any consideration. 

[ethereumhunter]

in simple terms is always able to control yourself in all matters of emotion. this self-control is able to provide patience in all matters related to gambling and betting.
like what OP did when the withdrawal was not finished he tried to gamble again accidentally started to get emotional and spent the money again.
mature thinking is needed every time in gambling.

We must have self-control so that we are not affected by increased emotional effects and will not lose self-control. If a person cannot control himself well, he will not be able to hold back his emotions and when he loses many times, he can become emotional and end up spending his money. That is why we must be wise about gambling so that we don't regret it later because our goal in gambling is just to have fun.

It's normal to have a desire to win, who don't want to, right? However it should not be your main desire when playing since gambling is risky and having an expectation to grow your money would not be right due to the said reason. It is wise to only play using a spare money, so that way even you lose, you'll not have regrets.

Aside from patience to wait for the time that you can withdraw your winnings, it's much important to have self-control. So you can refrain yourself to use your funds to gamble again since the result is not always what you expected it to be.

The desire to win will come to everyone who is gambling, making many people gamble even longer. But if they realize that their wishes will not always go well, they will not try hard and only try to enjoy gambling. And with that awareness, they can control themselves not to cross their boundaries so they don't regret losing their money. That means they have more patience than others because gambling is not a place to make money.

[Fredomago]

That is why we must always have clear limits when playing gambling and never try to break them. It should be done by everyone who wants to gamble so that they don't tend to let themselves be swayed by emotions for any reason. And if our finances are insufficient, we don't need to play gambling, especially if we see that we are impatient in doing something so that we don't experience problems when gambling. The desire to win at gambling is normal because it also happens to everyone who plays gambling. But we have to look at the reality where many people have tried it but didn't succeed at all and instead had to lose a lot of money before they could win.

in simple terms is always able to control yourself in all matters of emotion. this self-control is able to provide patience in all matters related to gambling and betting.
like what OP did when the withdrawal was not finished he tried to gamble again accidentally started to get emotional and spent the money again.
mature thinking is needed every time in gambling.

We should learn to have patience while gambling, everything is not done well by rushing into it, at the end of being impatient we loose focus and miss out some opportunities out of our carelessness, this same impatient makes some gamblers developed a greedy taste for winning and they keep loosing instead, some decisions when gambling are not expected to be taken in haste conditions but we need to give a more closer and careful look and approach on them before final decision is taken.

I go with that missed opportunity because we lose our patients, more on the side of what if you quit when you still have some win or what if you quit when you feel that you are not in a good streaks, things that we remember when we all busted after trying to push our way to win, things that patience should be always present to make sure that you are still in the right decision making.

Self-control is really important, it avoids you in losing everything and saves you some earning when you manage to quit out while
your balance is in positive.

[hahay]

It is very unfortunate, of course, if you experience this incident, instead of filling in the time by betting because you still can't make a withdrawal, what happens is that you lose everything. Until in the end, you don't get anything from the previous wins, or you lose everything. So yes, because this has happened, of course you have to gamble on a site that has better features and that way, you can still return to gamble comfortably. But the point is to always be careful, at least always consider their reputation too.

[Dickiy]

It is very unfortunate, of course, if you experience this incident, instead of filling in the time by betting because you still can't make a withdrawal, what happens is that you lose everything. Until in the end, you don't get anything from the previous wins, or you lose everything. So yes, because this has happened, of course you have to gamble on a site that has better features and that way, you can still return to gamble comfortably. But the point is to always be careful, at least always consider their reputation too.

The goal of all casinos or gambling such as slot machines is to find victims who have no patience, are easily provoked or tempted, and are easily disturbed from a psychological point of view. Most of those who become victims and experience addiction are people like this, where they have no limits in any gambling, obtaining one win at the cost of 10 defeats is clear this is a big loss and most of them will not see when they experience defeat, their minds are always focused on every victory they have ever tasted and it is always used as a reference that one day they will be able to get that victory like in the past. The factor where a person will gamble can also in fact affect the psychology of playing, for example when they get a win and the dealer does not agree to the withdrawal process, most of them will not accept and get emotional and then choose to play again with new capital to vent their frustration. In fact, we also have to be careful in choosing a casino that can be responsible or whatever happens.

[Silberman]

That is why we must always have clear limits when playing gambling and never try to break them. It should be done by everyone who wants to gamble so that they don't tend to let themselves be swayed by emotions for any reason. And if our finances are insufficient, we don't need to play gambling, especially if we see that we are impatient in doing something so that we don't experience problems when gambling. The desire to win at gambling is normal because it also happens to everyone who plays gambling. But we have to look at the reality where many people have tried it but didn't succeed at all and instead had to lose a lot of money before they could win.

It's normal to have a desire to win, who don't want to, right? However it should not be your main desire when playing since gambling is risky and having an expectation to grow your money would not be right due to the said reason. It is wise to only play using a spare money, so that way even you lose, you'll not have regrets.

Aside from patience to wait for the time that you can withdraw your winnings, it's much important to have self-control. So you can refrain yourself to use your funds to gamble again since the result is not always what you expected it to be.

Those which have obtaining profits as their main goal when they gamble will end up being incredibly disappointed when they fail to reach their goals, our main goal should always be our entertainment, as in this way if you feel like you are beginning to bet too much money then suddenly your fun will evaporate, and when that happens this will be a very clear signal that you are doing things wrong and you will be able to stop yourself immediately and avoid losing even more money.

[LUCKMCFLY]

DON'T GAMBLE IF THE INSTANT WITHDRAWAL IS NOT AVAILABLE!

Yes, I agree. I've experienced the same thing. At that time I made a withdrawal but there was a problem with the bank account that I was using (this problem occurs when playing using fiat money). Because the bank is having trouble so the withdrawal process is pending and I'm waiting for my normal bank network to play the game with a little money. But it doesn't work very well, I get to lose a lot. I got emotional and raised the bet. It didn't take long, all my money was gone. I failed to make a withdrawal

Controlling emotions when playing gambling is indeed difficult. When the money runs out and the withdrawal fails, only regret remains. I just thought "why was I playing again at that time? If I closed the site and opened YouTube to watch entertainment shows maybe my money wouldn't be gone". But it has happened, time can not be repeated. Now I always stop when I get a big win and withdraw all the money on the site.

Well, I can't deny something, there is nothing that bothers me more than being told that withdrawals are not instantaneous in a casino, first of all that makes me think a lot of bad things, because at once it comes to mind that it is a casino scam, and it's something natural I can't help it, the bad experiences I've had with casinos are for that reason, because they say that the withdrawals are not instantaneous and that they are manual, because they need to check if it's legal or not, or because Different ways that casinos have to kill time, particularly when that happens, the first thing that I imagine is that the casino has no funds.

[swogerino]

DON'T GAMBLE IF THE INSTANT WITHDRAWAL IS NOT AVAILABLE!

Yes, I agree. I've experienced the same thing. At that time I made a withdrawal but there was a problem with the bank account that I was using (this problem occurs when playing using fiat money). Because the bank is having trouble so the withdrawal process is pending and I'm waiting for my normal bank network to play the game with a little money. But it doesn't work very well, I get to lose a lot. I got emotional and raised the bet. It didn't take long, all my money was gone. I failed to make a withdrawal

Controlling emotions when playing gambling is indeed difficult. When the money runs out and the withdrawal fails, only regret remains. I just thought "why was I playing again at that time? If I closed the site and opened YouTube to watch entertainment shows maybe my money wouldn't be gone". But it has happened, time can not be repeated. Now I always stop when I get a big win and withdraw all the money on the site.

Well, I can't deny something, there is nothing that bothers me more than being told that withdrawals are not instantaneous in a casino, first of all that makes me think a lot of bad things, because at once it comes to mind that it is a casino scam, and it's something natural I can't help it, the bad experiences I've had with casinos are for that reason, because they say that the withdrawals are not instantaneous and that they are manual, because they need to check if it's legal or not, or because Different ways that casinos have to kill time, particularly when that happens, the first thing that I imagine is that the casino has no funds.

That is a valid point and that is why most reputable well known casinos have instant or almost instant withdrawal time.That means that they are ready to payout no matter which amount of money one user wins and want to withdraw and this means that the casino is prepared for any scenario.

On the other hand if the casino says this and that trying to use as an excuse that they need to manually check the transaction I would also think the same that some sort of shady behavior is there as there is nothing wrong in withdrawing instantly as long as the casino has put controls in place before processing your withdrawal so it does not make a lot of sense for me either.

[maydna]

It is very unfortunate, of course, if you experience this incident, instead of filling in the time by betting because you still can't make a withdrawal, what happens is that you lose everything. Until in the end, you don't get anything from the previous wins, or you lose everything. So yes, because this has happened, of course you have to gamble on a site that has better features and that way, you can still return to gamble comfortably. But the point is to always be careful, at least always consider their reputation too.

The goal of all casinos or gambling such as slot machines is to find victims who have no patience, are easily provoked or tempted, and are easily disturbed from a psychological point of view. Most of those who become victims and experience addiction are people like this, where they have no limits in any gambling, obtaining one win at the cost of 10 defeats is clear this is a big loss and most of them will not see when they experience defeat, their minds are always focused on every victory they have ever tasted and it is always used as a reference that one day they will be able to get that victory like in the past. The factor where a person will gamble can also in fact affect the psychology of playing, for example when they get a win and the dealer does not agree to the withdrawal process, most of them will not accept and get emotional and then choose to play again with new capital to vent their frustration. In fact, we also have to be careful in choosing a casino that can be responsible or whatever happens.

And the casino has it because so many impatient gamblers just want to chase their winnings. Even if they can be calm and patient, they will not lose a lot of money because their gambling goal is not to chase the win. And it was clear to those who chased after win that they could sink into even greater loss if they couldn't control themselves. A person's psychology will change and will affect him quickly without him being able to realize that he has lost a lot.

[Fredomago]

It is very unfortunate, of course, if you experience this incident, instead of filling in the time by betting because you still can't make a withdrawal, what happens is that you lose everything. Until in the end, you don't get anything from the previous wins, or you lose everything. So yes, because this has happened, of course you have to gamble on a site that has better features and that way, you can still return to gamble comfortably. But the point is to always be careful, at least always consider their reputation too.

The goal of all casinos or gambling such as slot machines is to find victims who have no patience, are easily provoked or tempted, and are easily disturbed from a psychological point of view. Most of those who become victims and experience addiction are people like this, where they have no limits in any gambling, obtaining one win at the cost of 10 defeats is clear this is a big loss and most of them will not see when they experience defeat, their minds are always focused on every victory they have ever tasted and it is always used as a reference that one day they will be able to get that victory like in the past. The factor where a person will gamble can also in fact affect the psychology of playing, for example when they get a win and the dealer does not agree to the withdrawal process, most of them will not accept and get emotional and then choose to play again with new capital to vent their frustration. In fact, we also have to be careful in choosing a casino that can be responsible or whatever happens.

And the casino has it because so many impatient gamblers just want to chase their winnings. Even if they can be calm and patient, they will not lose a lot of money because their gambling goal is not to chase the win. And it was clear to those who chased after win that they could sink into even greater loss if they couldn't control themselves. A person's psychology will change and will affect him quickly without him being able to realize that he has lost a lot.

That point that he won't realize that he already losses a lot will sink over when he don't have any money to use, that aggressiveness that will push him to keep chasing either to win more or to recover those losses as quick as possible, things that lingering inside a gamblers mind when inside the house, it's the emotion that casino owners wanted to have from the gamblers, in this situation the winner will always be the house owner, they simply benefiting with such emotions expectingly that gamblers will add more funds when the bankroll already busted.

[klidex]

It is very unfortunate, of course, if you experience this incident, instead of filling in the time by betting because you still can't make a withdrawal, what happens is that you lose everything. Until in the end, you don't get anything from the previous wins, or you lose everything. So yes, because this has happened, of course you have to gamble on a site that has better features and that way, you can still return to gamble comfortably. But the point is to always be careful, at least always consider their reputation too.

The goal of all casinos or gambling such as slot machines is to find victims who have no patience, are easily provoked or tempted, and are easily disturbed from a psychological point of view. Most of those who become victims and experience addiction are people like this, where they have no limits in any gambling, obtaining one win at the cost of 10 defeats is clear this is a big loss and most of them will not see when they experience defeat, their minds are always focused on every victory they have ever tasted and it is always used as a reference that one day they will be able to get that victory like in the past. The factor where a person will gamble can also in fact affect the psychology of playing, for example when they get a win and the dealer does not agree to the withdrawal process, most of them will not accept and get emotional and then choose to play again with new capital to vent their frustration. In fact, we also have to be careful in choosing a casino that can be responsible or whatever happens.

And the casino has it because so many impatient gamblers just want to chase their winnings. Even if they can be calm and patient, they will not lose a lot of money because their gambling goal is not to chase the win. And it was clear to those who chased after win that they could sink into even greater loss if they couldn't control themselves. A person's psychology will change and will affect him quickly without him being able to realize that he has lost a lot.

Talking about patience will be very difficult to do in gambling after getting a big loss and will trigger emotions that make a gambler lose control and cannot control himself then make bets in a row and lose more money.
After that, gamblers who are emotional and chase defeat will certainly continue to chase until the loss feels fulfilled without realizing that it's not as easy as they think.
With this we can understand the importance of patience when betting on gambling.