Poker coming to stake.com in the near future !

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on whether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isn't that really strict on that

Poker used to be one of the games that received a lot of recognition at first, but somewhere along the line, the market dropped significantly to the point that several poker tournaments that were hosted all happened to go in a particular direction, with low participation, but also that doesn't mean that the tournament was left unattended to in some cases players who want to take parts have a different time schedule.
In the long run, poker still remains one of the most popular games that many players will always find interesting at whatever point in time and also having the mindset of maximum excitement from poker games so its development into stake is a great move that will push for further higher traffic to stake.

Well, you have to remember something, good things take time to wait, maybe stake.com has been preparing something very good that we can all love and can make a difference, personally I would think that things are about how to do the best job Well , stake.com has a Guarantee on that , so when we make a small break, we can realize that at stake.com things are of fairly high quality and better things can be given when we think that they can be done? Since they can face many things to stay up to date, we could say that each person Assigned a special job to this casino is not doing it for the sake of doing it, they are not doing it to fulfill what they do for all of us, so you see that when things become They do the world's greatest care and Attention , because they look good, and I think or imagine that they are creating a Platform where many things can be assigned, including making lathes 24 hours a day and Being in traffic , Although people who Want to play for free also have options to do it and even to win, as well as the software that betcoinpoker Had, what was Amazing for me was a wonder.

This is something that we cannot lose sight of, I don't think they are Taking so long just because it is a simple thing, for me things will be much bigger , because personally I would think that stake.com could be doing something well done that Many players Worldwide will fall in love with what they are doing and will obviously have it assigned to stake.us because they cannot leave them so helpless, I think things can turn out for the better, I have not seen a job poorly done by this casino , which for me is one of the largest in the world and for that reason they are so successful currently, in this order of ideas, I imagine that when they launch this wonder , only other casinos will try to copy the system, because everything works like that There is no other way , the Competition is Always that way.

[3kpk3]

If they decide to collaborate with big poker network such as ggpoker, they have bigger chance to survive with the poker.
Betcoin and fortunejak or may betnomi, these 3 sites did try to have poker but all of them also failed although they have player base but I'm sure the number of active players are not as big as what we can see in Stake.

Your points are valid, but not all of those active players are interested in poker which is why it's still risky though Stake can definitely afford to take that risk considering how rich and popular they are.

What I find odd is that @Ahoy posted about it way back in May and there hasn't been a single update about it since then which makes me think that they probably abandoned those plans.

[BenCodie]

If they decide to collaborate with big poker network such as ggpoker, they have bigger chance to survive with the poker.
Betcoin and fortunejak or may betnomi, these 3 sites did try to have poker but all of them also failed although they have player base but I'm sure the number of active players are not as big as what we can see in Stake.

Your points are valid, but not all of those active players are interested in poker which is why it's still risky though Stake can definitely afford to take that risk considering how rich and popular they are.

What I find odd is that @Ahoy posted about it way back in May and there hasn't been a single update about it since then which makes me think that they probably abandoned those plans.

Getting into the poker scene requires a lot of skin in the industry, you can't just set something up and go. They probably got roadblocked with foreseeable marketing and regulatory issues. Not to mention, Stake is facing a lot of complaints from customers at the moment and the rate of complains does not look like it's slowing down. It seems that they are facing bigger problems than tying to tap the poker market.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

If they decide to collaborate with big poker network such as ggpoker, they have bigger chance to survive with the poker.
Betcoin and fortunejak or may betnomi, these 3 sites did try to have poker but all of them also failed although they have player base but I'm sure the number of active players are not as big as what we can see in Stake.

Your points are valid, but not all of those active players are interested in poker which is why it's still risky though Stake can definitely afford to take that risk considering how rich and popular they are.

What I find odd is that @Ahoy posted about it way back in May and there hasn't been a single update about it since then which makes me think that they probably abandoned those plans.

Yeah I also found it strange it is taking them such a long time.
But according to Eddie on stream they "want to do it right, that's why it takes time" .
Maybe they are too busy with all their kick stuff so stake and updates for it take a second seat.

But since they at least said some sort of update now, that they will start and test it at stake.us, I guess it is now that far in the future to see the final product. But do I know it? Sure not! With stake we never know!

[3kpk3]

Not to mention, Stake is facing a lot of complaints from customers at the moment and the rate of complains does not look like it's slowing down. It seems that they are facing bigger problems than tying to tap the poker market.

Valid points. The global economic meltdown this year hit them hard too due to which they cut many important bonuses here and there and they aren't resolving complaints quickly like before as you mentioned.

But since they at least said some sort of update now, that they will start and test it at stake.us, I guess it is now that far in the future to see the final product. But do I know it? Sure not! With stake we never know!

Yeah. I'm not holding my breath for it this year since they might eventually launch it next year or later.

[iv4n]

But since they at least said some sort of update now, that they will start and test it at stake.us, I guess it is now that far in the future to see the final product. But do I know it? Sure not! With stake we never know!

Yeah. I'm not holding my breath for it this year since they might eventually launch it next year or later.

Since I am not an active Stake user I guess they will not see me until the next year, if they add poker...

[ryzaadit]

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Unless they don't want to handle it on their own.

They need to partnership with provider-game example like (EVO-Games) while the table and everything is being setup for them and that's the reason why these plan really take the time. IMO, Eddie & Stake team don't want to opened or handle the game by their own because to much things to do for the set up system they just can easily do partnership with other provider.

The only problem, right now we don't have any live-game poker and to set up these things required a build from scratch. I hope these poker table are live-game not just a machine things.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

But since they at least said some sort of update now, that they will start and test it at stake.us, I guess it is now that far in the future to see the final product. But do I know it? Sure not! With stake we never know!

Yeah. I'm not holding my breath for it this year since they might eventually launch it next year or later.

Since I am not an active Stake user I guess they will not see me until the next year, if they add poker...

Exactly my thought.
After my level up, which is most likely next week, I will become inactive as well.

As soon as they offer poker I will give it a shot and see if there is money to be made but until then I place my bets at pinnacle since the odds are considerably higher there.
These micro bonuses now don't even the missed out money because of the low odds.

Anyway, maybe we can make a raffle, haha. When will stake officially offer poker on their main site. 

[BenCodie]

Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on wether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isnt that really strict on that

The poker market is also heavily centralized. In most countries, the power lays within few entities, and to enter their market means a very large amount of hoops, networking, etc. I do not think that Stake have this kind of weight in any sector...and while they might release something interesting, it will probably be inferior once the vale of excitement has gone.

Maybe, if their reputation was not so damaged and their image was in a much more positive light...I don't think that's how it will play out though. Just by observing the business during my visits to this board and the scam accusation board, I think that mostly their existing members will play out of excitement, then the concept will bust. We will see, if it gets released.

[Wind_FURY]

But since they at least said some sort of update now, that they will start and test it at stake.us, I guess it is now that far in the future to see the final product. But do I know it? Sure not! With stake we never know!

Yeah. I'm not holding my breath for it this year since they might eventually launch it next year or later.

Since I am not an active Stake user I guess they will not see me until the next year, if they add poker...

Exactly my thought.
After my level up, which is most likely next week, I will become inactive as well.

As soon as they offer poker I will give it a shot and see if there is money to be made but until then I place my bets at pinnacle since the odds are considerably higher there.
These micro bonuses now don't even the missed out money because of the low odds.

Anyway, maybe we can make a raffle, haha. When will stake officially offer poker on their main site. 

You place your bets at Pinnacle, but do you already play poker in other casinos, or other poker sites as well? Unless you're truly a poker player, what difference would Stake bring for the users of BitcoinTalk if they develop and build their own poker service? Why would you say that you'll leave them if they don't offer poker?

Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on wether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isnt that really strict on that

The poker market is also heavily centralized. In most countries, the power lays within few entities, and to enter their market means a very large amount of hoops, networking, etc. I do not think that Stake have this kind of weight in any sector...and while they might release something interesting, it will probably be inferior once the vale of excitement has gone.

Maybe, if their reputation was not so damaged and their image was in a much more positive light...I don't think that's how it will play out though. Just by observing the business during my visits to this board and the scam accusation board, I think that mostly their existing members will play out of excitement, then the concept will bust. We will see, if it gets released.

It's probably also the smallest and most competitive market, but if Stake believes that they found an opportunity to build something profitable in the Bitcoin/crypto community, then they should hurry before another casino takes the opportunity, no?

[AHOYBRAUSE]

You place your bets at Pinnacle, but do you already play poker in other casinos, or other poker sites as well? Unless you're truly a poker player, what difference would Stake bring for the users of BitcoinTalk if they develop and build their own poker service? Why would you say that you'll leave them if they don't offer poker?

Good question and I have an even better answer.
First off, yes I played poker for a long time, right when the hype started in 2003. Been through many sites and places.

For real poker players it would be heaven if stake added poker, maybe only in the beginning though.

Imagine all these players at stake, losing at sports and in the casino. Maybe they just know the basics of poker and now want to "try their luck" at the poker tables. That's what real players are dreaming of. It would be easy to win their money. Obviously over time the word spreads and more and more good players would come to stake to pick up those fishy players but until then it's go time.
You could compare it with Macao when they first introduced poker there. Rich Chinese business men basically burned their cash losing against just a hand full of pros. Nowadays they pros are travelling to and even living in Macao just to pick up these easy $.

By the way, where are you coming up with the story I would leave stake if they don't add poker? I am already leaving stake (because of the weak sportsbook), but I will come back when they add poker, for the just mentioned reasons.  

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on wether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isnt that really strict on that

The poker market is also heavily centralized. In most countries, the power lays within few entities, and to enter their market means a very large amount of hoops, networking, etc. I do not think that Stake have this kind of weight in any sector...and while they might release something interesting, it will probably be inferior once the vale of excitement has gone.

Maybe, if their reputation was not so damaged and their image was in a much more positive light...I don't think that's how it will play out though. Just by observing the business during my visits to this board and the scam accusation board, I think that mostly their existing members will play out of excitement, then the concept will bust. We will see, if it gets released.

Well, I honestly do not know what made you think that Stake does not have the type of networking and connections required to get into the poker market and come out with something everyone would truly enjoy playing and also can turn out profitable for the company. And also, talking about reputation, there is absolutely no gambling casino, both physical and online, that do not have some form of scam accusation against them. Understand that most gamblers are some set of angry people who in reality do not understand what gambling is all about, they are quick to accuse a casino of cheating them out of their money after losing the money.

So, the reputation is nothing to be a problem, in-fact, to me, Stake is one of the most trusted and reputation casinos around, they also have the money and whatever kind of connection required to pull this off, if they weren't capable, they wouldn't try, this i am very sure of, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

[Agbe]

They can join the poker network at the moment and develop their poker games and when they are fully ready they can it to the already existing ones or they removed the previous or the former ones and bring their new created pokers but before they can do that they have to test the new ones with the old ones for sometimes and see the workability of the both before finally removing the affiliated ones. Stake bringing poker to their platform is a good news because poker is favorite for many gamblers.

[vennali]

Can't wait! I think crypto poker scene hasn't really grown much for the past few years and could really use some mainstream push. Doesn't get any more "crypto mainstream" than Stake. I'll definitely try it out once its active. I'm sure they will get some poker pros on board as well to get more popular among the poker scene.

[shield132]

If they decide to collaborate with big poker network such as ggpoker, they have bigger chance to survive with the poker.
Lets say Stake prefer to create their own poker network, I think it is not a bad idea since they have big player base already now and it is a good start.
Most other sites that failed in the past are mostly new sites that come with poker game only and started like from ZERO so it is reasonable if most of them failed.
Betcoin and fortunejak or may betnomi, these 3 sites did try to have poker but all of them also failed although they have player base but I'm sure the number of active players are not as big as what we can see in Stake.

I remember FortuneJack's poker, it was amazing but sadly no one was playing. I think that crypto casinos fail with Poker because almost all of them started with game Dice and crypto casino for me, an early user, is associated with dice. Since 2017, crypto casinos slowly adopted other games, add slots, sportsbooks, live casinos. I remember there was no Sportsbook on FortuneJack, Bitsler, Stake. We only had betcasino and nitrogen at first, then sportsbet.io was made in 2016. I think crypto casinos need to promote poker and they'll succeed.
Collaboration with poker networks is a quick solution. That won't be bad but I think casino, as big and popular as Stake is, can have its own network and is able to maintain it.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Can't wait! I think crypto poker scene hasn't really grown much for the past few years and could really use some mainstream push. Doesn't get any more "crypto mainstream" than Stake. I'll definitely try it out once its active. I'm sure they will get some poker pros on board as well to get more popular among the poker scene.

I also really don't understand what's the holdup.
Poker is such an easy moneymaker. They already have a huge player base and a site, all they need is a good software to play at, you can just copy an existing one already.
After you made this you can sit back and collect rake. Of course you have to make your team bigger, create a poker devision. But that's an investment totally worth the hussle.

Poker has so much exposure on streaming and youtube as well, so it is another chance for free advertising. Many serious poker players would love to jump on the chance playing against degenerate casino gamblers for a change. 

[arallmuus]

Poker is such an easy moneymaker. They already have a huge player base and a site, all they need is a good software to play at, you can just copy an existing one already.

That doesnt mean their huge player base would be making money for them through poker. Poker site needs to provide decent prizepool on each tournaments to attract player to join which means as long as it doesnt overlay the prizepool then the site wont be making money. Aside from that only a handful of people actually make money from playing poker thus as time passes lots of players will be hesitant to join if they are losing money constantly


So is there anything new regarding poker progress on Stake?

[Volgastallion]

I didnt know this but i think is good for the community, Poker is not a easy bussines like some here are saying, you can see some well stablished pages trid it before but ended up closing the poker place because it was not redituable.

But Stake it can be one huge player on the flop, so they can have the back to support the money flow required and also they have a very huge base of players who can jump into it, so lets see how all this develop in the future, i really want to see them open the poker side, and see good and big tournaments with big prizespools.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Poker is such an easy moneymaker. They already have a huge player base and a site, all they need is a good software to play at, you can just copy an existing one already.

That doesnt mean their huge player base would be making money for them through poker. Poker site needs to provide decent prizepool on each tournaments to attract player to join which means as long as it doesnt overlay the prizepool then the site wont be making money. Aside from that only a handful of people actually make money from playing poker thus as time passes lots of players will be hesitant to join if they are losing money constantly


So is there anything new regarding poker progress on Stake?

The most money is not made by tournaments, the money is in cash games where every single hand gets raked and stake gets a cut from the pot. Tournaments and SNGs are just another part but cash game surely is the biggest money maker in offering poker to players.

Normal rake % on average online is 5%, also with a max rake per hand of course so a 10k pot wont be raked 500$, that would be crazy.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of people play tournaments, but not the players stake is targeting. They hanve gamlers on their site that want immediate action.
Tournaments take a lot of time and not every tournament is open to play immediately. Cash game is a sit and play game where people that just lost at black jack or sports can let off even more steam and gamble more.

Real poker players don't consider themselves gamblers but the most people at stake surely are.

[Kakmakr]

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Unless they don't want to handle it on their own.

They need to partnership with provider-game example like (EVO-Games) while the table and everything is being setup for them and that's the reason why these plan really take the time. IMO, Eddie & Stake team don't want to opened or handle the game by their own because to much things to do for the set up system they just can easily do partnership with other provider.

The only problem, right now we don't have any live-game poker and to set up these things required a build from scratch. I hope these poker table are live-game not just a machine things.

They already have Video Poker under their Original Games and that did not ruffle my feathers at all. I would like to see P2P poker championships and also some kind of spectator side betting on those matches.

Poker can be a real money spinner, if you do it right... so they should not do some half ass attempt at doing this. The other Stake original games are getting a lot of action, because they are solid games.