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August 21, 2023, 01:41:12 PM
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There's a usual line related to terms and conditions, "some terms might be changed or modified without noticing users".
The casino does have the right to modify or add new terms and conditions without agreement with the user, but the new policy must not be detrimental to the user, the casino still acts fairly and is responsible for paying the jackpot withdrawal without making it difficult for any reason. We may not be able to do anything if the casino decides to unilaterally harm the user, but we have control to report the casino to the community by including valid evidence, the casino will lose its users because gamblers do not use casinos that harm users, without users gambling will not operate and slowly the casino will go bankrupt unless the casinos fix everything before the big trouble comes along.
For me though, I believe that casinos does have such power or right to modify their terms and conditions, and not inform their users about it, only if they have specifically and categorically made it clear in their terms and conditions that, they have a right to modify the terms and conditions without prior or aftermath notice to their users, and also make it clear to their users that its is their responsibility to periodically go through the terms and conditions to stay updated with latest and unannounced changes.

I believe with such a line as the above included in the terms and conditions, users who read it and still go ahead to agree to it are doing or did so at their own peril, because personally, i legitimate casino with no interior or scam motives will not include such a line, but must make sure to announce to their users when their terms and conditions is going to be updated, or notify their users when they have modified their terms and conditions, i mean it cost nothing to do so aside sending out  a couple of buck emails.

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August 21, 2023, 01:55:27 PM
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Changing of terms and conditions without notifying the users or gamblers is normal with online gambling websites? Then when you did something wrong or about to withdraw your money they will tell you that you don't read their terms and conditions, and you start arguing with them until you decide to read the ToS again and you find out that it's different.
If a gambling site changes its terms and conditions, it must notify the customer via email. sites that are reportable and trustworthy must do this. And if they don't do this and any user has problem because of it then the gambling site will be responsible.  But we have to be careful about it and when they ask to agree on any condition, we have to read those reasons carefully. In that case there will be less chance of problems
I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.

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August 21, 2023, 03:01:46 PM
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You are right, if the top casino will notify the update of the terms and conditions with several strategies so that all users are aware of the updated TOS of the casino that has been changed or has been added other points, the most effective way is to announce in the pop-up information after the user has logged in to his account and the casino must send a notification to the user's email so that changes to the TOS are not debated in the future, but if the casino fails to change the TOS to the detriment of gamblers and the casino will not publish information on changes to users so that the casino blames users for ignoring the TOS.

There's a usual line related to terms and conditions, "some terms might be changed or modified without noticing users".

Whether the casino should notify the users or not, really depends on users on approaching the site if something unusual happened. We don't really know what will be the scenario if these casinos began questioning us. We should participate lightly and calmly to what they asked for and just follow what they want us to do.

We have no choice after all, right?

In case we already give everything and still have no sign from them of giving us a positive answer, we can act now to the next level by putting pressure on them. We can spread their bad approach to their users on some famous community forums and spam some complaints at some gambling site checkers.
That T&C line is nothing but garbage. These casinos think they can pull a fast one on hardworking people like us? Not on my watch! You've got a point when you say that users should approach the site cautiously if something feels off. But let me tell you, the moment you sense that something's not right, it's already too late

Following their demands blindly? Not the way I operate. We've got to show these money-grabbing establishments that we won't be pushed around. So, if they don't want to notify users about changes, that's on them. But when they start acting shady, we've got every right to put the pressure on them

Spreading the word about their bad practices on community forums? That's just the beginning. These casinos should be quaking in their boots when they think of crossing us. It's high time they understand who truly holds the power: the users

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August 21, 2023, 03:14:47 PM
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I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.

It’s very hard to to provide evidence on ToS changes since no one reads it seriously in full every time they play in the casino or even during on the registration when user click agree and read the ToS.

I believe this is why it's important to use only a reputable casino when gambling huge amount to make sure that you will not be cheated by the casino since shady casino usually use ToS to make their way against user that won huge funds against casino. Stake.com ToS update is the best example for notifying all users that they change ToS since they provide notifications during login for easy notified.

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August 23, 2023, 04:05:53 AM
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I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.

It’s very hard to to provide evidence on ToS changes since no one reads it seriously in full every time they play in the casino or even during on the registration when user click agree and read the ToS.

I believe this is why it's important to use only a reputable casino when gambling huge amount to make sure that you will not be cheated by the casino since shady casino usually use ToS to make their way against user that won huge funds against casino. Stake.com ToS update is the best example for notifying all users that they change ToS since they provide notifications during login for easy notified.
You are right, whenever it comes to things for the Tos it is delicate , many people focus that they can change the Tos as long as the counter is shown and that the players accept, it is very true, when Stakle.com made its change of Cough , it appeared, you could read it and apart from that you were given the option to accept or not, this was a very transparent act, things in this casino are the most affordable, for me it is the best casino in the world, here in the forum is a worthy example to follow, all casinos try to do their best to look like the best , as the case that they want to copy some things from stake.com, from bitcasino, io, they are casinos that really have a lot to do with me speak up and be the best example.

For the Tos I think that I am leaving very delicate, a casino cannot be changing the Tos pasi like this and why it seems to be only correct, I do not think that things should be treated that way, personally I think that when they are Dealing with these things is what defines a casino, because they are its laws, its rules, what must be complied with yes or yes, and that can be protected from any problem.

The casinos that make changes in their Tos without the consent of the users, it is something that is not legal, I see it as a lack of respect, and in reality a casino like this is not worth it, for me a casino when it changes it should do so public manner, but if the case changes according to how the user commitment follows, that is something that is not legal, or when you see that there is a casino that always does that, it is better to leave, there are also many casinos that they are excellent, and that they are very nice to play.

At this point , it is best to go to a casino that is reliable, that has a very good Reputation and that part of this provides security to its players, who will never be robbed or something similar, because through Tos you can steal the money from the users, and it is something that is not Honest.

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August 23, 2023, 07:18:55 AM
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I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.

It’s very hard to to provide evidence on ToS changes since no one reads it seriously in full every time they play in the casino or even during on the registration when user click agree and read the ToS.

I believe this is why it's important to use only a reputable casino when gambling huge amount to make sure that you will not be cheated by the casino since shady casino usually use ToS to make their way against user that won huge funds against casino. Stake.com ToS update is the best example for notifying all users that they change ToS since they provide notifications during login for easy notified.
Reputable casinos will notify all their users if they make changes to their TOS so that their users can know and read the changes. And the casino will also not try to take advantage of the TOS change because it is not feasible and will affect the trust of its users, who already trust the casino to play gambling. And yes, the latest TOS updates from Stake.com are provided when users log in to their accounts so that users can immediately read and understand them before they start gambling.

And other reputable casinos will also do the same because it means that the casino has given notice to all its users. And if a user is complaining about a change happening in their casino, they probably still need to read about the change in the TOS so they are complaining about the problem.

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August 24, 2023, 05:53:39 PM
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Reputable casinos will notify all their users if they make changes to their TOS so that their users can know and read the changes.

in most casinos, maybe I wouldn't even be wrong if I said that more than 90% of all casinos that exist in this cryptocurrency market have put in their TOS that they reserve the right to change the TOS without prior notice to customers, being so this forces every person to see the TOS every day, see that this is something that makes no sense since when people create an account they read the tos and agree with what is at that moment in the tos, but many casinos are they take advantage of this and put a section in the tos where it says that the casino reserves the right to change the tos without prior notice

if it were in the real world or in companies regulated by the government, this part of the tos would not be valid, but even in the casino of the casinos that are licensed to operate worldwide or at least in most countries of the world, then it is difficult to know in court the customers would have to complain about this kind of things in case some casino confiscates their fund using tos that was changed after the customer created an account. this is one of the disadvantages of using online casinos that are new and use everything against customers

in addition to that part of the tos that says that the casino reserves the right to change the tos without notifying people, in casinos there is also a part in the tos that says that the casino can confiscate the customer's money in case the casino detects any suspicious activity . but it's kind of funny because they don't talk about what they consider suspicious activities, i.e. it gives them the power to confiscate people's funds whenever they want and they never present evidence and nobody asks for proof, I've seen it here on the forum

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August 24, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
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I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.

It’s very hard to to provide evidence on ToS changes since no one reads it seriously in full every time they play in the casino or even during on the registration when user click agree and read the ToS.

I believe this is why it's important to use only a reputable casino when gambling huge amount to make sure that you will not be cheated by the casino since shady casino usually use ToS to make their way against user that won huge funds against casino. Stake.com ToS update is the best example for notifying all users that they change ToS since they provide notifications during login for easy notified.
Reputable casinos will notify all their users if they make changes to their TOS so that their users can know and read the changes. And the casino will also not try to take advantage of the TOS change because it is not feasible and will affect the trust of its users, who already trust the casino to play gambling. And yes, the latest TOS updates from Stake.com are provided when users log in to their accounts so that users can immediately read and understand them before they start gambling.

And other reputable casinos will also do the same because it means that the casino has given notice to all its users. And if a user is complaining about a change happening in their casino, they probably still need to read about the change in the TOS so they are complaining about the problem.

But most of the time is that the notification is not specific, most casino will only notify that they have just changed the terms but players need to find what is/are the changes.
If this happen, can you as player find the change? You cant, unless you have the full terms before the update.
Even if you have read the whole terms in the beginning, I'm sure that you will not remember all the things and you wont notice if there is a change.
Casino should notify and specify the changes to be fair, but most of the time we will not get the detail.

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August 24, 2023, 07:35:35 PM
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I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.

It’s very hard to to provide evidence on ToS changes since no one reads it seriously in full every time they play in the casino or even during on the registration when user click agree and read the ToS.

I believe this is why it's important to use only a reputable casino when gambling huge amount to make sure that you will not be cheated by the casino since shady casino usually use ToS to make their way against user that won huge funds against casino. Stake.com ToS update is the best example for notifying all users that they change ToS since they provide notifications during login for easy notified.
Reputable casinos will notify all their users if they make changes to their TOS so that their users can know and read the changes. And the casino will also not try to take advantage of the TOS change because it is not feasible and will affect the trust of its users, who already trust the casino to play gambling. And yes, the latest TOS updates from Stake.com are provided when users log in to their accounts so that users can immediately read and understand them before they start gambling.

And other reputable casinos will also do the same because it means that the casino has given notice to all its users. And if a user is complaining about a change happening in their casino, they probably still need to read about the change in the TOS so they are complaining about the problem.

But most of the time is that the notification is not specific, most casino will only notify that they have just changed the terms but players need to find what is/are the changes.
If this happen, can you as player find the change? You cant, unless you have the full terms before the update.
Even if you have read the whole terms in the beginning, I'm sure that you will not remember all the things and you wont notice if there is a change.
Casino should notify and specify the changes to be fair, but most of the time we will not get the detail.

It totally agree into this point on which not all people or gambler would really be able to remember on what they do have read up with those TOS earlier or on the time that they had registered on the site but

somewhat they would really be focusing into those details like having no KYC or restricted countries or making use of VPN will really be their main concern and tends to check it out on which it isnt really that
new that each one of us would really be in concern with these things. If ever there would be some changes then its true that they should really be that specific at least if they do really want for their players to be wary about those changes. It do really sucks if you do find yourself get caught on some problems just because you had missed out on that sudden change of terms but its true that not all would really be that mindful about such changes. If ever the site or platform would really be providing out those changes or notifications then it would really be just that nice for its players to be able to know on what changes
and this it would be always be that best if you would really be able to see and for the sake of transparency then this is whats recommended or preferred.

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August 24, 2023, 08:38:36 PM
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There's a usual line related to terms and conditions, "some terms might be changed or modified without noticing users".
The casino does have the right to modify or add new terms and conditions without agreement with the user, but the new policy must not be detrimental to the user, the casino still acts fairly and is responsible for paying the jackpot withdrawal without making it difficult for any reason. We may not be able to do anything if the casino decides to unilaterally harm the user, but we have control to report the casino to the community by including valid evidence, the casino will lose its users because gamblers do not use casinos that harm users, without users gambling will not operate and slowly the casino will go bankrupt unless the casinos fix everything before the big trouble comes along.
For me though, I believe that casinos does have such power or right to modify their terms and conditions, and not inform their users about it, only if they have specifically and categorically made it clear in their terms and conditions that, they have a right to modify the terms and conditions without prior or aftermath notice to their users, and also make it clear to their users that its is their responsibility to periodically go through the terms and conditions to stay updated with latest and unannounced changes.

I believe with such a line as the above included in the terms and conditions, users who read it and still go ahead to agree to it are doing or did so at their own peril, because personally, i legitimate casino with no interior or scam motives will not include such a line, but must make sure to announce to their users when their terms and conditions is going to be updated, or notify their users when they have modified their terms and conditions, i mean it cost nothing to do so aside sending out  a couple of buck emails.
Some terms and conditions can be very elongated to the extent that you might keep getting yourself confused if care is not taken.
This is why it is very important for us to use simple casinos that will not stressed us with a lot of articles to read and comprehend.
There are some casinos that doesn't send updates on terms and conditions to customers, most time it is done selectively especially by dubious casinos using that to make some gamblers to lose big funds since they are not aware of the new update.









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August 24, 2023, 08:49:32 PM
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Changing of terms and conditions without notifying the users or gamblers is normal with online gambling websites? Then when you did something wrong or about to withdraw your money they will tell you that you don't read their terms and conditions, and you start arguing with them until you decide to read the ToS again and you find out that it's different.
If a gambling site changes its terms and conditions, it must notify the customer via email. sites that are reportable and trustworthy must do this. And if they don't do this and any user has problem because of it then the gambling site will be responsible.  But we have to be careful about it and when they ask to agree on any condition, we have to read those reasons carefully. In that case there will be less chance of problems
I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.
A couple of companies that involves in this kind of practice are already known with red flags to warn others from falling victim to their ethic of practice that always left the customers at lost at all time and due to their constant editing and changing of terms and conditions just to favour the casino's shady practices, the team behind such casinos already have insider law enforcer who helps them cover up from their case getting escalated so even if aggrieved players should make a report against such site to the law enforcement agency, their wint pick the case up by bringing such casino to book.

This has paused a high limitation on how those who are cheated using this practice get justice, so even if you have all the evidence, getting justice and possible recovery will be hard at some point.
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August 24, 2023, 09:31:05 PM
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Changing of terms and conditions without notifying the users or gamblers is normal with online gambling websites? Then when you did something wrong or about to withdraw your money they will tell you that you don't read their terms and conditions, and you start arguing with them until you decide to read the ToS again and you find out that it's different.
If a gambling site changes its terms and conditions, it must notify the customer via email. sites that are reportable and trustworthy must do this. And if they don't do this and any user has problem because of it then the gambling site will be responsible.  But we have to be careful about it and when they ask to agree on any condition, we have to read those reasons carefully. In that case there will be less chance of problems
I have been reading this allegation of company and casinos changing their terms of service without notifying customers.
Since I have been reading about this, I have never seen a very tangible evidence either by screenshot or by link where such Terms of services were changed without the knowledge of the customers. Almost everything in the discussion is based on assumption and accusation. I haven't seen a real life situation. I do not argue that it cannot happen or it is not happening. But at least I need to see an evidence that it has happened with a certain casino.
A couple of companies that involves in this kind of practice are already known with red flags to warn others from falling victim to their ethic of practice that always left the customers at lost at all time and due to their constant editing and changing of terms and conditions just to favour the casino's shady practices, the team behind such casinos already have insider law enforcer who helps them cover up from their case getting escalated so even if aggrieved players should make a report against such site to the law enforcement agency, their wint pick the case up by bringing such casino to book.

This has paused a high limitation on how those who are cheated using this practice get justice, so even if you have all the evidence, getting justice and possible recovery will be hard at some point.

That Information is very good , so what organization is it? the SEC or something like that ? Because in General these are the Organizations that Give hard to the sites that are fraudulent , and here is when all that KYC is Justified , the Licenses that everyone talks about and Especially the things that possibly Natural persons do to have more security , this is the story that Everyone is Given so that they can do the KYC , that the Security that now Everything is more Reliable and all those things that they Always promote, in this order of ideas we as Good players must have Completely Things are Clear When playing in a Casino like this , but it is good That they Inform which is the Entity that does that.

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August 24, 2023, 09:40:31 PM
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Reputable casinos will notify all their users if they make changes to their TOS so that their users can know and read the changes.

in most casinos, maybe I wouldn't even be wrong if I said that more than 90% of all casinos that exist in this cryptocurrency market have put in their TOS that they reserve the right to change the TOS without prior notice to customers, being so this forces every person to see the TOS every day, see that this is something that makes no sense since when people create an account they read the tos and agree with what is at that moment in the tos, but many casinos are they take advantage of this and put a section in the tos where it says that the casino reserves the right to change the tos without prior notice

if it were in the real world or in companies regulated by the government, this part of the tos would not be valid, but even in the casino of the casinos that are licensed to operate worldwide or at least in most countries of the world, then it is difficult to know in court the customers would have to complain about this kind of things in case some casino confiscates their fund using tos that was changed after the customer created an account. this is one of the disadvantages of using online casinos that are new and use everything against customers

in addition to that part of the tos that says that the casino reserves the right to change the tos without notifying people, in casinos there is also a part in the tos that says that the casino can confiscate the customer's money in case the casino detects any suspicious activity . but it's kind of funny because they don't talk about what they consider suspicious activities, i.e. it gives them the power to confiscate people's funds whenever they want and they never present evidence and nobody asks for proof, I've seen it here on the forum

Well, what you say is a well-known reality, as far as I am concerned, I am a person who, when it comes to casinos, now I read everything that has been and will be, to avoid bad times in the future, because it just so happens that if something extraordinary happens in our favor, then the casino comes out that it was an error, or a bug or that due to the change in Tos things cannot be done as one wants but as determined by the casino, if a casino changes the rules of the game at any moment without prior and obvious notification that this is an abuse and absurd because they do things so badly because they have to change the rules so that later the changes show that the change they made is within the normal range? It seems to me that it is illegal, dishonest and quite primitive because things like this will only lead to a bad outcome of things, for this reason I always have to be very careful with that, it is not that we check them every day Cough, because that would be something That doesn't make sense, not to me, apart from the fact that I don't like to be reading the same thing all the time, it's another reason, and when a person agrees to comply with the Tos, they should at least notify that when changes are made, the player you must accept those new rules.

Regarding suspicious activities, it is always good that we as players always keep in mind that any activity that a casino considers suspicious is not a big deal, for a casino suspicious activity, what can it be? enter with a VPN? And if the person is traveling and is in a country where they are not allowed to enter the casino, but they have their account, then they have the right to enter from a VPN because if they are in an important tournament, then they will not be able to enter? Or that a person tries to withdraw every time he wins something, why can't he do it? Or so that person tries to make several deposits, so he can't do it? These are things that I will never understand why a casino considers an activity suspicious.

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August 24, 2023, 09:50:16 PM
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Regarding suspicious activities, it is always good that we as players always keep in mind that any activity that a casino considers suspicious is not a big deal, for a casino suspicious activity, what can it be? enter with a VPN? And if the person is traveling and is in a country where they are not allowed to enter the casino, but they have their account, then they have the right to enter from a VPN because if they are in an important tournament, then they will not be able to enter? Or that a person tries to withdraw every time he wins something, why can't he do it? Or so that person tries to make several deposits, so he can't do it? These are things that I will never understand why a casino considers an activity suspicious.


In case there is a suspicion, it shouldn't be thought of as not a big deal.  Once you are suspected by the casino, you will be monitored and possibly unable to access your acount until the suspicion is cleared.  With regards to the use of VPN, we must clarify first if it is allowed to use VPN or not.  We will be in trouble if we happen to use a VPN thinking that it is ok since we are not in the restricted area but find out that any means of VPN usage is not accepted by the casino.  This will bring trouble in your account, so we must always think first and inquire before using anything that can possibly jeopardize our account.
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August 24, 2023, 09:55:04 PM
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Regarding suspicious activities, it is always good that we as players always keep in mind that any activity that a casino considers suspicious is not a big deal, for a casino suspicious activity, what can it be? enter with a VPN? And if the person is traveling and is in a country where they are not allowed to enter the casino, but they have their account, then they have the right to enter from a VPN because if they are in an important tournament, then they will not be able to enter? Or that a person tries to withdraw every time he wins something, why can't he do it? Or so that person tries to make several deposits, so he can't do it? These are things that I will never understand why a casino considers an activity suspicious.


In case there is a suspicion, it shouldn't be thought of as not a big deal.  Once you are suspected by the casino, you will be monitored and possibly unable to access your acount until the suspicion is cleared.  With regards to the use of VPN, we must clarify first if it is allowed to use VPN or not.  We will be in trouble if we happen to use a VPN thinking that it is ok since we are not in the restricted area but find out that any means of VPN usage is not accepted by the casino.  This will bring trouble in your account, so we must always think first and inquire before using anything that can possibly jeopardize our account.
^I agree with this and for me, when a casino raises suspicion about an activity, it is definitely not something to dismiss lightly. Any suspicion can lead to serious consequences, including monitoring of your account and potential restrictions on access until the matter is resolved.
The use of VPNs is a prime example of something that should be approached with caution. While you probably think it is acceptable to use a VPN because you are not in a restricted area, casinos often have specific policies about VPN usage due to the potential for abuse or misrepresentation. It is always crucial to clarify the casino's stance on VPN usage before employing one, to avoid inadvertently causing trouble for your account. So, therefore, it is better to understand very well the TOS.
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August 24, 2023, 10:04:38 PM
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Gambling with cryptocurrency has many advantages over gambling with fiat currency. It is of the highest interest among gamblers especially for quick payouts. However in both ways a gambler has to make KYC. I don't need to worry about KYC in the best gambling platforms. Because they provide good service for which their site has high reputation. KYC is an important factor in any gambling or casino platform, online or offline. There is no option of gambling by ignoring it.
There might be some options available right now for gamblers to gamble without completing KYC verification, but there won't be any in the future, so it's better if people start getting used to the habit of completing KYC verification at trusted platforms so that they don't have issues doing it in the future. Regulations have been catching every single platform lately, authorities are even eyeing decentralized platforms to be regulated in the future, so there won't be any left.

As you said, one shouldn't really have any issues doing KYC verification at a platform that is trusted and they know it wouldn't misuse their personal information and documents, and it's better to avoid new and untrustworthy platforms if they are asking for KYC verification, if they don't ask for it, one might try them out.
Now I began to adhere to the following opinion: When it comes to gambling using cryptocurrencies, then KYC verification is definitely evil and a bad solution to the issue.  If the game is with cryptocurrency payments, then you need to maintain a certain level of anonymity.  

But now, after all, an intermediate identification option has appeared and users of WorldCoin wallets are already using it.  In Japan, for example, two days ago there was even a queue of those wishing to receive some of these coins (about $50 at the current exchange rate).  For identification, it was simply necessary to scan the iris of the eyes and that's it.  The recipient of the coins already had his own wallet with these coins after that.  The whole process takes only 8 seconds.
 In my opinion, this identification method is very well suited for use in the cryptocurrency gambling industry and unequivocally guarantees confirmation of the deposit owner if he was registered in such a biometric way.  At the same time, it is not at all necessary to go through KYC in its classical sense, that is, indicating the name, surname, other passport data, and even more so sending all kinds of photographs of the face or even video.  
I don’t know which cryptocurrency casino will be the first to master this method of identification, but I hope such casinos will start to appear more and more.

I agree with what you say, with crypto there must always be a model of anonymity and privacy, it is not that anything we do with crypto is already known in the government or in some entities, whether they are banks, because That lends itself to many things, to collect taxes, to follow up, to see when you can win or lose, and to see how they do to take a part of that, and actually this technology was invented by Satoshi to bypass all Kinds of Regulations that It comes from Governments and third-party entities, which are Essentially in control of Everything, so if we Always Collaborate with KYC regulations, what was the use of all Satoshi's efforts? Although I can say something, the crypto, especially bitcoin jam's A government can have control, and fortunately things are like that, because it is not fair that it has it, apart from the fact that the conditions under which they are done must always be very strict, so if we start accepting fiat money conditions in crypto, it does not lose satoshi, loses is the person who does and accepts what a government tells him.

In part, it will always be very good to have a cypto account that a casino that is under a totally fiat currency, because the deposits with credit cards , with Deposits and bank Transfers , all this will be seen by the entities related to the government , so it is not the idea either, well at least it doesn't seem to me because it seems to me that things should be with respect to money that the government or any type of bajnco or something like that have control over our finances, although there are people who don't even pay attention to telling them all that They or some of them prefer to remain under the yoke of a bank, third parties or even worse that a government imposes on them, that is why I have always had a very irreverent attitude regarding these things, because a government will never Prepare for uqe give it benefits to your people, it is a lie and even so in some countries people Kill themselves for their rulers, which I see as a rather ridiculous attitude, but everyone knows what they want , what they think is Something very free and Everyone will learn when I should Learn..

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August 24, 2023, 11:21:11 PM
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Regarding suspicious activities, it is always good that we as players always keep in mind that any activity that a casino considers suspicious is not a big deal, for a casino suspicious activity, what can it be? enter with a VPN? And if the person is traveling and is in a country where they are not allowed to enter the casino, but they have their account, then they have the right to enter from a VPN because if they are in an important tournament, then they will not be able to enter? Or that a person tries to withdraw every time he wins something, why can't he do it? Or so that person tries to make several deposits, so he can't do it? These are things that I will never understand why a casino considers an activity suspicious.


In case there is a suspicion, it shouldn't be thought of as not a big deal.  Once you are suspected by the casino, you will be monitored and possibly unable to access your acount until the suspicion is cleared.  With regards to the use of VPN, we must clarify first if it is allowed to use VPN or not.  We will be in trouble if we happen to use a VPN thinking that it is ok since we are not in the restricted area but find out that any means of VPN usage is not accepted by the casino.  This will bring trouble in your account, so we must always think first and inquire before using anything that can possibly jeopardize our account.
The case with VPN usage can mostly be dealt with when it involve new accounts since most of those that use VPN also use it to create multiple accounts on the casino either to claimabuses or abusing the casino with such bonuses, This is aside from the other fact that those that use VPN do so to avoid restrictions.

But in a case where the account is already a verified one,  the player can use a VPN to gamble freely from anywhere that way,  the casino already knows that such a gambler is doing so with clear intentions.

Some casino permits the use of VPN but also outlines its limitation and usage restrictions
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August 24, 2023, 11:34:11 PM
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Changing of terms and conditions without notifying the users or gamblers is normal with online gambling websites?
No, it's not normal and not acceptable.
Any reputable casino or any other service provider must inform its users about any updates in their terms of service. They must also mention when the last time their terms were updated. Besides new terms and rules should not have a retroactive effect. Any company that doesn't do this does not respect its customers and it should be avoided at all costs.

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August 25, 2023, 08:14:50 PM
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I remember that some time ago I made a thread about notifications: which was the best way. 1.email,  2.internal message in the casino, or 3.any other way lik, e.g. msm via Telegram, etc... even on social networks, that is vital to be able to believe that they did not do it in bad faith.

There are casinos that do that, so you have to look for it, there they are, although in effect sometimes we go through that bad information that never arrives and then it is as you say, but as I already said it can happen to you once, it is avoided by looking for Casinos that have it largest way of information, come on! It is digital, so, it is easy to make the notification through all these ways.

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August 25, 2023, 08:31:02 PM
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Changing of terms and conditions without notifying the users or gamblers is normal with online gambling websites?
No, it's not normal and not acceptable.
Any reputable casino or any other service provider must inform its users about any updates in their terms of service. They must also mention when the last time their terms were updated. Besides new terms and rules should not have a retroactive effect. Any company that doesn't do this does not respect its customers and it should be avoided at all costs.

They should notify you, but I’m sure they probably do. Some sites have newsletters they email out that you can opt out of. I think they probably don’t want to bother you every time they update their terms. I assume most of the time they’re doing it because they have to legally, not because they’re trying to target their own users.

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