Doing scam for Using AI Tool in Signature Campaign

[stompix]

The debate reminds me of the people you would still meet years ago who refused to have cell phones because they said the powerful would have us monitored and such.

But you're still not allowed to talk at your cellphone while driving a card without having a hands free device and there are plenty of places that ask you to turn it off.
Nobody really cares even in this forum if you're using AI to create your posts as long as you're not wearing a sig and you don't get paid for copy pasting answers, but in this case he did it for money and in a campaign that openly prohibits that, so yeah, it's quite close to being tag worthy.

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[_BlackStar]

I admit that I was wrong. I used AI ChatGPT at first I didn't know it was strictly banned in forums. But these few days I just found out, coupled with this incident I also realized that what I did was wrong and fatal.

I'm still new to this forum, if it's a fatal and unforgivable mistake, I'll also understand.

For everything I apologize, especially for @Royse777 because I have made a mistake that caused many parties to suffer from my mistake. To be honest, if I realized from the start maybe I could get away from AI ChatGPT. But not all of my posts are the result of AI ChatGPT, only a few.

I think it's just an excuse basically expecting some affection from as many users as possible to forgive your mistake. Not only have you fooled the campaign manager, but you've also fooled many other users with the AI-generated quality of your posts.

I am ready to accept the consequences of what happened to my account. Even if I am labeled neutral, I will accept it because it is my own fault. If I am given another chance I will thank you.

The manager may blacklist you at campaign in future, but I think you are brave enough to admit mistakes and be ready to accept any consequences. But not only about neutral tags, now some users will exclude you from their trust list [~].

[SamReomo]

The user was probably aware but is hoping for mercy because he admitted guilt. Ultimately it's up to the manager what happens, but I think people found guilty of this should be excluded from campaigns for a certain period of time. Hard lesson but 1 that needs taught.

I agree with you, the best way to penalize such users is to not allow them to participate in signature campaigns for at least 2 weeks as a first time disciplinary measure, if a user still does that after that penalization than a long term punishment is a necessary action for those type of users. However, I don't think that a manager would accept such participants in their campaigns once again who have broken the rules already. I'm not against that favor, but a manager might not agree to allow such users because they don't want their reputation to be ruined once again.

In my opinion everyone who does a mistake for first time should be given a chance if the mistake is not of a damaging nature. The user has done an inappropriate act and is guilty for that, he's also asking for mercy because he knows that the act he has done wasn't a good thing. The best advice to bbigtart is to stop relying on ChatGPT and other such AI tools that can generate the text based on the questions. Do your own research and learn the topics deeply first and then answer it with proper knowledge and understanding without using artificial intelligence tools.

[robelneo]

In my opinion everyone who does a mistake for first time should be given a chance if the mistake is not of a damaging nature.

Using AI in a platform like this is damaging in nature and may result in a ban.

The user has done an inappropriate act and is guilty for that, he's also asking for mercy because he knows that the act he has done wasn't a good thing.

Did he become aware when this issue pops up or he already knows the rule before he got caught if so, he could have corrected it, and if he is honest enough he should inform the manager of his violation and promise to correct it and never do it again.

The best advice to bbigtart is to stop relying on ChatGPT and other such AI tools that can generate the text based on the questions. Do your own research and learn the topics deeply first and then answer it with proper knowledge and understanding without using artificial intelligence tools.

Your advice should not only be for bbigtart but for all of us here the rules about the usage of AI applies to all who post here, whether you're in a campaign or not.

[tabas]

The best advice to bbigtart is to stop relying on ChatGPT and other such AI tools that can generate the text based on the questions. Do your own research and learn the topics deeply first and then answer it with proper knowledge and understanding without using artificial intelligence tools.

Your advice should not only be for bbigtart but for all of us here the rules about the usage of AI applies to all who post here, whether you're in a campaign or not.

It's really for everyone who still hiding a secret and relying on these AI tools for their conversations and posts in the forum. Don't they like it when it's natural and they're thinking on their own of what they're going to say? We are not yet robots and then they use it for their own advantage and shows that they're only doing little efforts from the discussions. It's best to see them go with natural discussions and we're all for genuineness of the posts we do. There could still be few that's never caught and keep on doing it, don't worry time only can tell until someone catches them.

[Saisher]

While here in the forum the debate focuses on how to stop AI from being used on it, outside this cave the debate is simply how it is already being integrated into our lives. The latest is that google is going to integrate it with the search engine. In the same way that first google lens came out and now you have it next to the search engine without having to go and open the App separately, the integration of AI with search engines will allow us to get more accurate information faster and with even less effort.

The admin will not apply AI to a forum, any admin forum admin will not allow that,  the platform will try to have as much unique content as possible for generic traffic, if the admin will allow AI usage the search engine will not value a platform that is full of spam and its content copy pasted it will be relegated to second-grade site and will value more the source of the content.

[yahoo62278]

Let's go further down the chain. If you check the address of the OP, then the statistics show that he is not clean as a tear either.
If you check the address: 0x7519671882ccbc4aA7254EEf144d8D7B854F9C8d, which first appeared on the forum, then the owner of it is an account that is banned. True, the post itself was deleted, which is not surprising for cheaters. And accordingly, the OP violates the prohibition rule.
Nothing personal to the OP, but the facts speak of breaking the rule.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094661.msg62316151#msg62316151

There are a lot of users who get banned and an  hour later are back with a new account. They're always caught because they're still using the same wallets or something silly like that. Getting banned is nothing to them because there is no penalty except maybe losing the account.

If the forum is going to ban users then they should IP ban or something stronger IMO.

[Poker Player]

Nobody really cares even in this forum if you're using AI to create your posts as long as you're not wearing a sig and you don't get paid for copy pasting answers,

It's surprising that you say that when you yourself have participated in a thread about the subject where people does not distinguish whether AI users wear a paid signature or not.

Let's see what a moderator has to say:

The forum soon will be overrun with low quality AI generated posts, just because there is a financial gain in it, it is easy to do and the tools are available to everyone.

It should be treated the same as plagiarism. Asking an AI something then copy and pasting the response is just as bad if not worse than plagiarism because it's not as easy to detect, though the posts do kind of stand out...

I don't see a distinction there as to whether the AI user wears a paid signature or not.

but in this case he did it for money and in a campaign that openly prohibits that, so yeah, it's quite close to being tag worthy.

I give you that, he broke the rules of a campaign he was participating in, and that's wrong, but the vision I have is not so far-fetched because at the moment he only has two neutral tags, while if we were talking about a $40 loan default (the approximate amount he earned for the signature campaign) his profile would a few red tags already.

[stompix]

Nobody really cares even in this forum if you're using AI to create your posts as long as you're not wearing a sig and you don't get paid for copy pasting answers,

It's surprising that you say that when you yourself have participated in a thread about the subject where people does not distinguish whether AI users wear a paid signature or not.

Yeah, and I stand by my opinion:
- copy pasting questions or topic titles into and from chatGPT brings nothing important to the discussion
- instead of doing so the user could simply say, ask chatGPT, just like those links with letmegooglethis for you
- trying to brag about how you asked the question to reveal some hidden secrets is just silly
- I can't really see much difference between this and plagiarism.

Copy-pasting an answer from Quora is plagiarism, copy-pasting from an AI that learned the answers scanning Quora should be....?

But, I still stand on the other too, nobody will be doing anything soon as long as money is not involved, plagiarism enforcement is down the drain with accounts getting caught and nothing getting done for weeks, so, even if one or two mods are thinking like this, overall the absolute majority just gave up.

I don't see a distinction there as to whether the AI user wears a paid signature or not.

And there shouldn't be, but again...

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

This is interesting, first the accused user exposed another user @Shan85 for double dipping in signature campiagn and now he's being accused of using AI to generate post to earn from signature.

Just imagine a cruel life like such, he's also doing what has been kicked against yet accusing someone doing almost same wrong he's doing, which means no one can be trusted these days, we need to be careful about the members of this forum we often come across without knowing what they are upto, i don't specifically know what benefits them with the use of this creative system of AI in making posts, i believe more are people are yet uncovered.

[AbuBhakar]

While here in the forum the debate focuses on how to stop AI from being used on it, outside this cave the debate is simply how it is already being integrated into our lives. The latest is that google is going to integrate it with the search engine. In the same way that first google lens came out and now you have it next to the search engine without having to go and open the App separately, the integration of AI with search engines will allow us to get more accurate information faster and with even less effort.

The admin will not apply AI to a forum, any admin forum admin will not allow that,  the platform will try to have as much unique content as possible for generic traffic, if the admin will allow AI usage the search engine will not value a platform that is full of spam and its content copy pasted it will be relegated to second-grade site and will value more the source of the content.

I believe he is referring to the application of AI on forum search bar but the data is limited to the content of the forum alone. This is just collecting data from previous post that we are doing manually when someone ask the same repetitive question.

The only concern is how the AI will validate the correctness of the opinion or content by someone in the forum. Maybe merit and reputation ratio of the source will be considered by the AI?

[nutildah]

What a shocking development to see the OP banned   another alt down the drain... this guy is losing alts quicker than he can rank them up

It is commendable for Royse777 to want to reward the OP for their finding, but I wish I would have read the thread to the big reveal before sending him merits for it  

Anyway, of course Saira10 is linked to other alt accounts. Firstly, Cat1 (just banned, lol):



Even though they later deleted it, Cat1 was the first one to post this address.

Then looking at another address owned by Cat1, I can see he is connected to a bunch of other accounts, including

Qurbanshah (banned)
Protocolkuttasaala
Ali 786

who are in turn connected to

Bahadurmunir (banned)
Thor00

https://bscscan.com/address/0xbcb793c8011411d5974bf7000f2e60d279d52737


who are in turn connected to a bunch of accounts I already connected in the Shan85 thread:

https://bscscan.com/address/0x7950c8895b2bba578b0886d79c0f4b6e14d380f6


among others. I mean my God this person has a shit ton of accounts. I'm out of energy but please feel free to verify/solidify the connections and I'll do some tagging/reporting tomorrow.

[bbigtart]

I don't mean to defend myself and expect mercy. because my mistake was indeed fatal, I was ready with the consequences (but still as an ordinary human being, I still hope there is a chance). Because I admit it was wrong and I also didn't fully read the rules given by Royse777.

But I see most of the people commenting here didn't see when I joined the signature campaign and when I made a post with chatgpt AI.

on this occasion I will straighten it out a bit (but I still admit that what I did was wrong and not justified). the two posts that I use via Chatgpt AI are where I haven't joined any campaign and the other is on May 23, at which time I have already joined the BetterCallRaul.it signature campaign managed by royse777. but less than a week after I registered as a participant there, the BetterCallRaul.it campaign has gone into Pause status so I haven't been paid either. (Of course with my cheating I don't deserve to be paid)

So please don't get me wrong on this as I don't feel or take payments from any of the campaigns. It's so pathetic to be accused of receiving payments from signature campaigns every week by defrauding the manager. This is not a defense, it's just that I wish everyone would judge me less about me receiving payments from the royse777 campaign every week in a deceptive manner.

And I'm grateful for the problem I'm having, I understand better and try to fix it and not repeat it in the future if I'm still given the chance.

The best advice to bbigtart is to stop relying on ChatGPT and other such AI tools that can generate the text based on the questions. Do your own research and learn the topics deeply first and then answer it with proper knowledge and understanding without using artificial intelligence tools.

Your advice should not only be for bbigtart but for all of us here the rules about the usage of AI applies to all who post here, whether you're in a campaign or not.

Thank you very much for the suggestions and constructive input for me in the future.

[_BlackStar]

And I'm grateful for the problem I'm having, I understand better and try to fix it and not repeat it in the future if I'm still given the chance.

I know some people will judge you too harshly, but it's only natural that you make mistakes. Regardless of whether you're not posting using AI while in signature campaign, you're actually using AI to increase your activity on the forum. This is wrong with your own ethics, which incidentally expects more merit to rank up. I don't know how many AI posts you've gotten since you did, that was mistake.

Right now I don't know if the manager will give you a second chance in his other campaigns, but I think he is quite professional in how to follow up on your case. The rules have been made, so maybe you are not one of the participants who meet the criteria again in the future.

[Xiaomie A1]

The admin will not apply AI to a forum, any admin forum admin will not allow that,  the platform will try to have as much unique content as possible for generic traffic, if the admin will allow AI usage the search engine will not value a platform that is full of spam and its content copy pasted it will be relegated to second-grade site and will value more the source of the content.

I also really support what you say because Admin does not allow content written with AI for this forum. But apart from this, I think what you did in the past in this forum was not necessarily liked by the Admin of this forum mate. That thing is using one wallet for two different accounts and it can still be found even if you delete it now.



Reference: https://ninjastic.space/address/0x4413f7e61d7a69dF948b0934B7f5cC1e7adb982f

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2361872.msg26029582#msg26029582 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422122.msg61572597#msg61572597

I only checked a small part and haven't checked everything for your two accounts because it could have been done by other people who are more experienced in this forum. Hopefully you can be truly holy mate.

[LoyceV]

Admin does not allow content written with AI for this forum.

That's not true (unfortunately). Bots have to follow the same rules as humans.
What Admin doesn't allow, is plagiarism. And pretending a spambot's output is your own is plagiarism.

[examplens]

But I see most of the people commenting here didn't see when I joined the signature campaign and when I made a post with chatgpt AI.

on this occasion I will straighten it out a bit (but I still admit that what I did was wrong and not justified). the two posts that I use via Chatgpt AI are where I haven't joined any campaign and the other is on May 23, at which time I have already joined the BetterCallRaul.it signature campaign managed by royse777. but less than a week after I registered as a participant there, the BetterCallRaul.it campaign has gone into Pause status so I haven't been paid either. (Of course with my cheating I don't deserve to be paid)

It seems to me that you did not understand the essence of your mistake at all and it's not just about your dishonest attempt to earn $50 from a signature campaign.
Why did you think that it can be a constructive discussion if AI writes posts for you? Did you think that each of us knows how to use ChatGPT and we don't need an intermediary if we want his "opinion"?

[SatoPrincess]

This week has been entertaining, I have been following the drama from from when shan85 was exposed by bbigtart for wearing double signatures at the same time. It’s been thrilling to see how everything unfolded in this thread, OP caught bbigtart and ended up being caught as a ban evader. Good job Lovesmayfamilis for exposing this alt farm, I wonder if OP was also the one behind the shan85 account and just wanted revenge.

[CryptSafe]

It is unfortunate that all these are happening of lately.  I believe every campaign here has rules to go by and before anyone must apply, he or she must diligently read the rules then apply as appropriate if they deem it fit for their participation.

The user in question violated the Terms and conditions of the campaign. Well, pleading it to be a mistake is what I do not understand but however, the manager has the final say on this matter. What ever decision deems it fit is his resolution.

[rby]

This is interesting, first the accused user exposed another user @Shan85 for double dipping in signature campiagn and now he's being accused of using AI to generate post to earn from signature.

I deleted my positive feedback it's very likely that he's using AI to create these posts 40% is already too high to consider a post using AI it's ironic for someone to catch a cheater when he himself is a cheater, but of course, we like to hear his side of the story.

I remember someone warned both of us, but we still proceeded to hand the positive feedback to the user for bursting scam
I didn't delete my positive feedback, rather I turned it to neutral while being able to capture the AI writing as a reason to change feedback from positive to neutral.

This user bursted an uncommon cheating of a signature swapper who earned from two campaigns simultaneously.
(Positive changed to neutral after accusation of AI posting) (Delete)

Right now I don't know if the manager will give you a second chance in his other campaigns, but I think he is quite professional in how to follow up on your case. The rules have been made, so maybe you are not one of the participants who meet the criteria again in the future.

Royse777 already banned him from participating in all his campaigns until the 31st day of December, 2023.
Then, I also think that his reputation is not totally lost. He is remorseful, if he sincerely repents from using AI to make posts subsequently, his crime would be forgotten and all will be fine.