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May 28, 2023, 05:29:13 AM
Last edit: December 22, 2023, 10:51:49 PM by robelneo
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Beterbiev is staking the three titles he is holding against the very dangerous Callum Smith
Both fighters have a very good knockout percentage with Beterbiev boosting with 100% knock out but Callum is also known as the guy who can deliver a good fight he is younger and more experienced than Beterbiev I'm sure Callum has learned a lot from his only loss against Canelo and he will use it against Beterbiev

So who you got in this fight?




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May 28, 2023, 05:50:23 AM
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Although Smith is a good boxer, I don't think that he can upset Beterbiev here. I mean we have seen how Beterbiev's power and the only fighter that we are interested of him fighting next is Bivol for the unification fight.

No offense to Smith, this might be just another tune up fight for Beterbiev, stay busy fight before they can see if they can get Bivol next. Although the plan for Bivol right now is to rematch Canelo. But maybe down the line we might see Beterbiev vs Bivol. But currently, Beterbiev might stay active so that he won't have the ring rust because he is not getting any younger as well.

So I voted for: Beterbiev by knock out

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May 28, 2023, 08:50:03 AM
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I also got Beterbiev here to win by a knockout maybe in the later rounds, in his last fight against big Anthony Yarde, Beterbiev started slow and then Yarde found success in his counter punch.

But as soon as Arthur get a feel of the fight and just like a engine that started hot late, he was able to stop Yarde in 8th rounds.

And I don't think that Smith will be ready for a bruising fight against the power puncher in Anthony Beterbiev. So we might see 20 out of 20 knockout.

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May 28, 2023, 09:50:59 AM
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Callum Smith may have an edge when it comes to experience but Beterbiev can take punches and at the same time has power in both hands, I see Beterbiev chasing Callum, and when Beterbiev hit him with body punches the next that will fall is the head.
Beterieve will go to the body first then next to the head while he chases Callum because Callum has the height and reach advantage
he will use it and do a hit-and-run method as he did in his match against Canelo.

This match is very predictable unless Callum goes toe-to-toe which is very risky for him because Beterbiev can easily take him out
I hope after this fight we'll have an all-Russian match between Bivol - and Beterbiev for the undisputed light heavyweight championship.


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May 28, 2023, 10:36:38 AM
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I wouldn't say that Beterbiev is facing the very dangerous Callum Smith because I view the opposite thing especially when the name Artur Beterbiev is involved. Therefore, it is Callum Smith who will be facing the very dangerous and undefeated Artur Beterbiev who holds and boasts the 100% KO rate.

Smith might have a very decent knockout rate with over 70 percent but if we compared it to Beterbiev's, that somehow much lower and forgive me if it will make me sound that I underestimate Smith, but against the 3-belt champion? I seriously don't see this fight ending in the challenger's favor nor I don't even believe that this bout will be decided in hands of the judges.

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May 29, 2023, 03:30:45 AM
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I'm not surprised on the current result of the poll
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Beterbiev by knock out   - 6 (100%)
Beterbiev by decision   - 0 (0%)
Smith by knock out   - 0 (0%)
Smith by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 6

If we have 50 voters all 50 voters who know Beterbiev and Smith will go for Beterbiev, Beterbiev is just too good for Smith and there are better fighters that Beterbiev fought in the past and he punished and knocks them all out, Smith is no different the poll should not be on the winner it's on what rounds Beterbiev will knock out Smith, if by chance there is an upset, it's going to be the biggest upset in the history of boxing.
Promoters should give the Biterbiev - Bivol match,  they deserve each other and it's long overdue.

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@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.

In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.

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May 29, 2023, 07:07:51 AM
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@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.

In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.

That is indeed obvious, as Callum Smith is no longer an undefeated boxer after his loss to Canelo. Perhaps Beterbiev is trying to find the right timing before fighting Bivol, as he is aware that he is not getting any younger. Although Beterbiev is known for his knockout power, he is already 38 years old, while Bivol is only 32 years old. Age is certainly a factor in boxing, and typically, at the age of 38, fighters are considered to be approaching retirement age.

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@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.

In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.

Because Canelo knows that if ever he beats Bivol at a168 lbs, he will be criticized for that, and their first fight is 175 lbs, so why go down to 168 lbs if there is a rematch?

As for the upcoming fight, yes, Callum Smith has suffered a lost in the hands of Canelo and although this is a different weight class now and maybe this is his natural weight, it will be hard pressed to beat Beterbiev. Arthur remains to be the best in this division and the only true test for him is another Russian in Bivol.

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May 29, 2023, 11:14:17 AM
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That is indeed obvious, as Callum Smith is no longer an undefeated boxer after his loss to Canelo. Perhaps Beterbiev is trying to find the right timing before fighting Bivol, as he is aware that he is not getting any younger. Although Beterbiev is known for his knockout power, he is already 38 years old, while Bivol is only 32 years old. Age is certainly a factor in boxing, and typically, at the age of 38, fighters are considered to be approaching retirement age.

I'm the 8th voter and yes, there's no other vote other than the "Beteriev by KO".

Callum Smith did survive the Canelo onslaught by this time around against the monster, I don't think he will still stand until the final bell sounds. Maybe this is some sort of a tune-up for Beterbiev before his promoter Uncle Bob finally agrees to a fight with Bivol for the unification. He may be 39 or 40 at that time so no more reason for Top Rank to still hold on to Beterbiev as he will be very old at that time.

If indeed Bivol vs Beterbiev will push through, this would be interesting as it will be dubbed as "Battle for Russia's King"  Grin.
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@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.

In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.

What you said is quite debatable mate because I doubt that Beterbiev's supporters will just stay down and be quiet especially for this one because you did said that he was the one who was avoiding in making the unification fight happen. But I come in peace Grin just kidding.

That said, I'm both supporters of Bivol and Beterbiev, and I surely want to witness a unification fight between the both of them but unfortunately, that just cannot happen for now because the sanctioning bodies is not inclined in making it a reality because of Bivol's situation.

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Dmitry Bivol Will Be Blocked From Undisputed Fight Against Artur Beterbiev.
Dmitry Bivol's dream of becoming undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world will be blocked by the WBC due to his status as a Russian national. - Written by Kerr Ferguson.
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And that is also the reason why Callum Smith was selected to fight Artur Beterbiev in the meantime.

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May 29, 2023, 11:48:24 PM
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I'm the 8th voter and yes, there's no other vote other than the "Beteriev by KO".



Make my vote 9, Beterbiev has been fighting and cherry-picking fighters and he is not getting any younger anymore, he cannot establish his legacy for lack of real opponents that can challenge him, the organization and promoters should move to get the Bivol - Beterbiev, there's too much politics on boxing now that they don't want this to happen, and this is very unfortunate.
Even if it's a nontitle fight they should square off the ring to see who really is the best light heavyweight fighter in this generation.

 
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Poll result = 100%  Beterbiev
Its not surprising. Beterbiev has 100% success rate in knocking his opponent. He is much dangerous than Bivol so theres no argument about that even if Smith has more ring experience.



I'm the 8th voter and yes, there's no other vote other than the "Beteriev by KO".



Make my vote 9, Beterbiev has been fighting and cherry-picking fighters and he is not getting any younger anymore, he cannot establish his legacy for lack of real opponents that can challenge him, the organization and promoters should move to get the Bivol - Beterbiev, there's too much politics on boxing now that they don't want this to happen, and this is very unfortunate.
Even if it's a nontitle fight they should square off the ring to see who really is the best light heavyweight fighter in this generation.

 

Politics will find a way but its really going to be a big fight when they are match to someone from US and Mexico and not fight against fellow countrymen.



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May 30, 2023, 01:45:49 AM
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@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.

In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.

What you said is quite debatable mate because I doubt that Beterbiev's supporters will just stay down and be quiet especially for this one because you did said that he was the one who was avoiding in making the unification fight happen. But I come in peace Grin just kidding.

That said, I'm both supporters of Bivol and Beterbiev, and I surely want to witness a unification fight between the both of them but unfortunately, that just cannot happen for now because the sanctioning bodies is not inclined in making it a reality because of Bivol's situation.

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Dmitry Bivol Will Be Blocked From Undisputed Fight Against Artur Beterbiev.
Dmitry Bivol's dream of becoming undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world will be blocked by the WBC due to his status as a Russian national. - Written by Kerr Ferguson.
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And that is also the reason why Callum Smith was selected to fight Artur Beterbiev in the meantime.


Hehe I am always first to admit if I am wrong. Thank you for this information. This has been rumored since 2022 when Bivol was chasing Beterbiev for a fight. However, everyone did not take the rumor much seriously and it was probably what started another rumor. Beterbiev is avoiding Bivol hehehehee.

In any case, it appears what prevents Bivol vs. Beterbiev is again politics. Similar to why much of the superfights are also not organized or takes too long to be organized.

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^ WBA, WBC, IBF and basically under WBO though which if WBO mandate these fighters, the politics can no longer work for them. WBO rule them all.

All these politics can make fighters look like they are ducking each other but most probably they are just finding ways to make money for their organization.

Bivol however, if he fights Arthur, he might lose which these organization also try to meddle.


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the fight will be held there in the city of Quebec where Beterbiev lives, so we have Beterbiev who is undefeated and a specialist in knockouts and will fight at home, I see this fight being a little disputed, although Callum Smith has had more fights and have only one defeat and Beterbiev had fewer fights compared to Callum Smith and didn't lose in any fight, Beterbiev has a clear advantage in this fight, he will be able to fight in his territory which facilitates a lot in his preparation, concentration and will have a lot support, not to mention that a fighter who has never lost is more confident in each fight, as he doesn't know the feeling of defeat so he just makes an effort not to lose in any fight

different from the case where a fighter who was undefeated loses a fight, when he goes to the fights that follow, this fighter has problems with his self-confidence, he knows he can lose and that this is something normal, because he himself has already lost so he will fight counting on an eventual defeat, in this part the trainers get irritated with the fighters during the fights, it is necessary to make the fighter angry so that he thinks like a winner and not like a loser something that is not easy, without a doubt that in this fight the greatest attention it's on Beterbiev, in my opinion Beterbiev will come out victorious in this fight, it won't be an early knockout fight, but he'll win the fight

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May 30, 2023, 11:33:07 PM
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Bivol however, if he fights Arthur, he might lose which these organization also try to meddle.

I can also say and its safe to say that if Beterbiev fights Bivol he might lose also, both fighters are undefeated almost invincible in the ring, and the only way to figure this out is for them to fight in the ring, organizations where they belong should make it happen, it will be a pity if both fighters retire without taking each other, its a missed opportunity for them and a missed opportunity in boxing.
And both fighters will regret in the future why they have not moved mountains to face each other, we can say what if and speculate on the outcome.

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Bivol however, if he fights Arthur, he might lose which these organization also try to meddle.

I can also say and its safe to say that if Beterbiev fights Bivol he might lose also, both fighters are undefeated almost invincible in the ring, and the only way to figure this out is for them to fight in the ring, organizations where they belong should make it happen, it will be a pity if both fighters retire without taking each other, its a missed opportunity for them and a missed opportunity in boxing.
And both fighters will regret in the future why they have not moved mountains to face each other, we can say what if and speculate on the outcome.

The orgs sure can make it happen if they want to. From what I've read was that before they would give it  a green light they may have to make sure they have another dog to replace the losing one. A new breed of fighter shall emerge first among the ranking. They couldn't just afford to throw big shot fighters like Bivol or Beterbeiv under the bus wihtout prepared replacement. Same thing they didn't make Crawford and Spence happen yet.

The bookmakers can decide the odds whoever can possibly win. More than likely Beterbeiv.




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The bookmakers can decide the odds whoever can possibly win. More than likely Beterbeiv.

As we can see here : https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/artur-beterbiev-v-callum-smith/winner

Beterbiev is the heavy favorite with odds of 3/8 or -267 in American (Moneyline) format. It is evident that most of us believe he will win the fight. Callum Smith has already been exposed, so I think Beterbiev will be able to employ the right strategy to secure a knockout, which would further enhance his chances of securing a big fight in the future.

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Another skull on Beterbievs belt/record. Either Smith was an obligatory contender for all those belt, or this is a cherry picked opponent (hard to believe in that) by Beterbiev. How Smith is planning to beat such a knockout master, when Beterbiev is a natural born light heavy, and Smith jumps from light heavy to middleweight ? Smith has been LH only in last two fights. All the time he was 73kg all the time. This is gonna be a Bivol vs Canelo copy/paste fight, but with a KO in first half of the fight.

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