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June 05, 2023, 05:22:14 PM
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Although Bivol and his camp shows intentions already to make this fight with Beterbiev. However, Beterbiev will have to go and win against Smith first. The thoughts of this 2 Russians fighting for the unification came to fruition when Bivol and his camp are not satisfied with what Canelo is offering them for a rematch. For them at least a good 50/50 split will make sense since Bivol already beat Canelo in their first fight. But it seems Canelo still wanted to get the biggest split of the purse and the money in the table which for now Bivol and his team rejected.

I've read Canelo's announcement and its arrogant for him to give Bivol that kind of a deal he was dominated, if he wants to avenge his loss and prove that he can beat the guy he should have given Bivol a fair deal to make the fight happen, Canelo knows Bivol will not accept the offer so Canelo can justify why he doesn't want to fight Bivol.

Light heavyweight will never be Canelo's territory because it is ruled by two of the most powerful punchers in Bivol and Beterbiev, Canelo should not over-extend himself.

For starters, Canelo should know that he was the one who started the war even though he was not on Bivol's radar as they were in a separate weight class but Canelo tried to take advantage of the situation and thought that Bivol was not that hard to defeat as he only have a single belt in his possession, moreover, his success few years back against Kovalev made up his mind that LHW is not that much.

Now look at him, after starting a war, he is now on a disadvantageous side waiting for a chance that Bivol will accept his deal but it seems that the latter is not interested anymore as in the first place, there's nothing for Bivol to gain unless Canelo agrees to fight him at super-middle.

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June 05, 2023, 05:41:24 PM
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I thought Artur Beterbiev's next fight will be against Dmitry Bivol and he even voiced it out and express his interest in the post-fight interview after his dominant win against Anthony Yarde last January retaining his WBC, IBF, and WBO Light-heavyweight titles. I don't know what is the hindrance why Beterbiev-Bivol seems not a priority. Bivol's last fight was in November last year and yet no signs of his next fight.

I've just learned that the deal was won by the Top Rank Promotions.

And guess what, obviously as a champion, the purse split for this match is 70/30, in favor of Artur Beterbiev.

Still boils down as who manages Bivol and his citizenship, there were even reports that his purse was still in limbo when he fought and won against Canelo, so not just if he has been paid already since there is a boycott amongst Russian athletes, (not just boxers).
I guess his process for citizenship is still going on and with the current situation, he might have to wait for some years for that because the first world countries are pressing some pressures towards Russian athletes even though they are not directly connected with what happened. It's a shame though because the entertainment industry has been affected because of that.

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Beterbiev is under Top Rank, and he has been fighting under the Canadian flag or at least his residency is Canada for many years now. And then again, Bivol is with Eddie Hearn's Marchroom and this is the one preventing this two to fight, both of their manager doesn't want to sit down and negotiate for a unification fight.
Bob Arum already said before that after Beterbiev's fight with Anthony Yarde, he will agree to a possible unification fight as long as he will be the one to organize it and not Hearn as they are on the A-side. There are some spicy words of course about Matchroom and its viewers but the point is, Arum is only willing as long as his conditions is met. Sadly, there is another roadblock that prevented the unification fight from happening, and that is Bivol's nationality.

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June 07, 2023, 09:58:30 AM
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I thought Artur Beterbiev's next fight will be against Dmitry Bivol and he even voiced it out and express his interest in the post-fight interview after his dominant win against Anthony Yarde last January retaining his WBC, IBF, and WBO Light-heavyweight titles. I don't know what is the hindrance why Beterbiev-Bivol seems not a priority. Bivol's last fight was in November last year and yet no signs of his next fight.

I've just learned that the deal was won by the Top Rank Promotions.

And guess what, obviously as a champion, the purse split for this match is 70/30, in favor of Artur Beterbiev.

Still boils down as who manages Bivol and his citizenship, there were even reports that his purse was still in limbo when he fought and won against Canelo, so not just if he has been paid already since there is a boycott amongst Russian athletes, (not just boxers).
I guess his process for citizenship is still going on and with the current situation, he might have to wait for some years for that because the first world countries are pressing some pressures towards Russian athletes even though they are not directly connected with what happened. It's a shame though because the entertainment industry has been affected because of that.

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Beterbiev is under Top Rank, and he has been fighting under the Canadian flag or at least his residency is Canada for many years now. And then again, Bivol is with Eddie Hearn's Marchroom and this is the one preventing this two to fight, both of their manager doesn't want to sit down and negotiate for a unification fight.
Bob Arum already said before that after Beterbiev's fight with Anthony Yarde, he will agree to a possible unification fight as long as he will be the one to organize it and not Hearn as they are on the A-side. There are some spicy words of course about Matchroom and its viewers but the point is, Arum is only willing as long as his conditions is met. Sadly, there is another roadblock that prevented the unification fight from happening, and that is Bivol's nationality.

So let's see if Eddie Hearn will allow that, recently, him and Bob Arum has been talking against each other, for one, Arum says that Hearn hasn't done anything as a promoter in the US soil. While Hearn responded that Arum is slipping and then there are better promoters than him, including his very own Match Room. So I doubt that this is very easy to make, unless they become professional and sit down and just talk about the money. But I guess the best catch here would be a 50/50 split in revenue. So let's see if the fight can happen in the future. There are too many obstacles and hurdles to overcome.

So far though, in this fight, it's Beterbiev by knock out.

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June 07, 2023, 01:07:46 PM
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So far though, in this fight, it's Beterbiev by knock out.

That's the expectation of the majority if he wins this fight, considering he is a 100% KO artist. Smith has not been knocked out yet in his career, so let's see what possibilities arise. However, regardless of the outcome, I don't see Smith winning the fight. His success will depend solely on whether he can survive against a 100% KO artist.

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June 07, 2023, 02:36:39 PM
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Beterviev is a monster. He just got in the square less than 10 years and have already showed dominance over other fighter on his weight class. Stats would speak for himself as supported by how did his fights went. I do appreciate Simth's capabilities but I'd be on Artur's for this fight. But I guess it this would be a tough one andhas a chance to result in a decision especially if Smith would not be aggressive as with some of his fights. For sure he knows how powerful Artur is, and he wouldn't more likely force this fight out.
So far though, in this fight, it's Beterbiev by knock out.

That's the expectation of the majority if he wins this fight, considering he is a 100% KO artist. Smith has not been knocked out yet in his career, so let's see what possibilities arise. However, regardless of the outcome, I don't see Smith winning the fight. His success will depend solely on whether he can survive against a 100% KO artist.
I second this fact that Smith is careful with his fights. He tend to be avoidant with in-fights especially if the opponent is wishing for it. Quite of a smart guy, indeed but yes as majority views this fight, hard to see artur losing.

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June 07, 2023, 05:30:44 PM
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I thought Artur Beterbiev's next fight will be against Dmitry Bivol and he even voiced it out and express his interest in the post-fight interview after his dominant win against Anthony Yarde last January retaining his WBC, IBF, and WBO Light-heavyweight titles. I don't know what is the hindrance why Beterbiev-Bivol seems not a priority. Bivol's last fight was in November last year and yet no signs of his next fight.

I've just learned that the deal was won by the Top Rank Promotions.

And guess what, obviously as a champion, the purse split for this match is 70/30, in favor of Artur Beterbiev.

Still boils down as who manages Bivol and his citizenship, there were even reports that his purse was still in limbo when he fought and won against Canelo, so not just if he has been paid already since there is a boycott amongst Russian athletes, (not just boxers).
I guess his process for citizenship is still going on and with the current situation, he might have to wait for some years for that because the first world countries are pressing some pressures towards Russian athletes even though they are not directly connected with what happened. It's a shame though because the entertainment industry has been affected because of that.

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Beterbiev is under Top Rank, and he has been fighting under the Canadian flag or at least his residency is Canada for many years now. And then again, Bivol is with Eddie Hearn's Marchroom and this is the one preventing this two to fight, both of their manager doesn't want to sit down and negotiate for a unification fight.
Bob Arum already said before that after Beterbiev's fight with Anthony Yarde, he will agree to a possible unification fight as long as he will be the one to organize it and not Hearn as they are on the A-side. There are some spicy words of course about Matchroom and its viewers but the point is, Arum is only willing as long as his conditions is met. Sadly, there is another roadblock that prevented the unification fight from happening, and that is Bivol's nationality.

So let's see if Eddie Hearn will allow that, recently, him and Bob Arum has been talking against each other, for one, Arum says that Hearn hasn't done anything as a promoter in the US soil. While Hearn responded that Arum is slipping and then there are better promoters than him, including his very own Match Room. So I doubt that this is very easy to make, unless they become professional and sit down and just talk about the money. But I guess the best catch here would be a 50/50 split in revenue. So let's see if the fight can happen in the future. There are too many obstacles and hurdles to overcome.

So far though, in this fight, it's Beterbiev by knock out.
Bob Arum should know Eddie Hearn's situation because Bob Arum doesn't have any Russian boxers in his stable that actually lives in Russia because if he were in Hearn's shoes, I don't think that Arum will just let the fight happen in US soil even if it's not going to have any benefit for his own boxers. As a promoter for Bivol, Hearn surely knows how to handle a business that will include his own boxer and not just for the promoter's sole benefit.

Most probably, this unification discussion between them will take at least couple of months before they reach a deal with of course, Arum and Beterbiev in the A-side and of course, his network handling it. But even so, there's the WBC who will not let that happen as the council have strongly objected about that possibility.

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June 07, 2023, 05:46:39 PM
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So far though, in this fight, it's Beterbiev by knock out.

That's the expectation of the majority if he wins this fight, considering he is a 100% KO artist. Smith has not been knocked out yet in his career, so let's see what possibilities arise. However, regardless of the outcome, I don't see Smith winning the fight. His success will depend solely on whether he can survive against a 100% KO artist.
I second this fact that Smith is careful with his fights. He tend to be avoidant with in-fights especially if the opponent is wishing for it. Quite of a smart guy, indeed but yes as majority views this fight, hard to see artur losing.

Being a 38 years old and having 10 years in his professional record, the Russian-Canadian monster are still showing no signs that he is already vulnerable. Judging from his recent fights, he may not have the right speed to outdo his opponents but he does have the talent and IQ for which he knew exactly when to give his heavy punches that will literally knock somebody down.

In this instance, Smith might able to survive the whole 12-round fight if he will successfully shake off Beterbiev's punches as he's quite smart enough and careful not to add an embarrassment in his career. Anyway, he still got 70+ days to prepare for the fight and hopefully we can witness another entertaining fight.

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June 09, 2023, 10:34:13 AM
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So far though, in this fight, it's Beterbiev by knock out.

That's the expectation of the majority if he wins this fight, considering he is a 100% KO artist. Smith has not been knocked out yet in his career, so let's see what possibilities arise. However, regardless of the outcome, I don't see Smith winning the fight. His success will depend solely on whether he can survive against a 100% KO artist.
I second this fact that Smith is careful with his fights. He tend to be avoidant with in-fights especially if the opponent is wishing for it. Quite of a smart guy, indeed but yes as majority views this fight, hard to see artur losing.

Being a 38 years old and having 10 years in his professional record, the Russian-Canadian monster are still showing no signs that he is already vulnerable. Judging from his recent fights, he may not have the right speed to outdo his opponents but he does have the talent and IQ for which he knew exactly when to give his heavy punches that will literally knock somebody down.
I agree, he hasn't show any signs that he is slowing down. And if my memory serves me right, he doesn't have any injuries as well, so he is very durable. Of course, no one can defeat Father time, sooner or later we will see him declining. But as per his trainer and Bob Arum, Beterbiev is still the puncher that he is and can still fight at a high level. And that's why Smith's chances are very slim in this fight, and majority thinks that this might be a easy fight for Arthur and maybe next we can talk about him and Bivol for a 4 belt fight in Light HW.

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There's no doubt that Beterbiev has the huge advantage in this fight and I predicted that this is also an easy knockout for him. These people doesn't know Beterbiev and he already improved a lot since his last fight. It won't take too long until Smith will feel the heavy power punches and surely he can't handle that for long. They feel comfortable until they felt those unusual punches that will eventually shake them and knock them down to the ground just like anybody else in his last fights.

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June 09, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
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There's no doubt that Beterbiev has the huge advantage in this fight and I predicted that this is also an easy knockout for him. These people doesn't know Beterbiev and he already improved a lot since his last fight. It won't take too long until Smith will feel the heavy power punches and surely he can't handle that for long. They feel comfortable until they felt those unusual punches that will eventually shake them and knock them down to the ground just like anybody else in his last fights.

He started slow though against Yarde, and I think Yarde could have won the early rounds and he said that it as the strategy, to preserved his stamina along the way. But as soon as Beterbiev got his rhythm, it's just a matter of time before he scored a knockout or technical knockout and that's what happen to that fight.

So if Smith can used the same strategy and caught Beterbiev early, then it might be a good fight. But Beterbiev is very dangerous, just 1 punch can change the fight. And if he caught Smith clean then it might be over. Smith is not known to have a good chin and if Beterbiev's land his signature hook, then book another knockout on his record.
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There's no doubt that Beterbiev has the huge advantage in this fight and I predicted that this is also an easy knockout for him. These people doesn't know Beterbiev and he already improved a lot since his last fight. It won't take too long until Smith will feel the heavy power punches and surely he can't handle that for long. They feel comfortable until they felt those unusual punches that will eventually shake them and knock them down to the ground just like anybody else in his last fights.

He started slow though against Yarde, and I think Yarde could have won the early rounds and he said that it as the strategy, to preserved his stamina along the way. But as soon as Beterbiev got his rhythm, it's just a matter of time before he scored a knockout or technical knockout and that's what happen to that fight.

So if Smith can used the same strategy and caught Beterbiev early, then it might be a good fight. But Beterbiev is very dangerous, just 1 punch can change the fight. And if he caught Smith clean then it might be over. Smith is not known to have a good chin and if Beterbiev's land his signature hook, then book another knockout on his record.

If I can recall it correctly, that was Beterbiev's technique since then as he'd like to feel his opponent first before engaging in a slugfest and see who will survive and who will kiss the canvass first. Callum Smith can use that as an advantage to be aggressive in the first three rounds where Beterbiev is still feeling everything but he should be careful as well because the latter can be unpredictable at times and he might caught a heavy punch if he's not that cautious.
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Interesting that Top Rank/ESPN once again beat Matchroom/DAZN in the purse bid. I'm just glad this fight is not happening in Smith's backyard otherwise the judges will once again favor the Briton just like during the Yarde fight.

I believe Mundo's chin is tough as hell but we'll see how tough is it when he is facing a champion with a 100% KO rate. I am seeing Beterbiev scoring another stoppage in the middle or late in the fight. But considering Beterbiev's age of 38, I won't be surprised that one of his opponents these days will end his undefeated streak. Callum is a good fighter so there's also the chance that he is the one to exploit Beterbiev's age.

The fans are craving a Beterbiev-Bivol unification fight and we might not really see it. Maybe this is still doable if DAZN allows Bivol to fight at ESPN. But I also wonder if Top Rank and ESPN would risk it knowing Beterbiev's end will come to an end sooner or later if he won't retire.

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Interesting that Top Rank/ESPN once again beat Matchroom/DAZN in the purse bid. I'm just glad this fight is not happening in Smith's backyard otherwise the judges will once again favor the Briton just like during the Yarde fight.

I believe Mundo's chin is tough as hell but we'll see how tough is it when he is facing a champion with a 100% KO rate. I am seeing Beterbiev scoring another stoppage in the middle or late in the fight. But considering Beterbiev's age of 38, I won't be surprised that one of his opponents these days will end his undefeated streak. Callum is a good fighter so there's also the chance that he is the one to exploit Beterbiev's age.

The fans are craving a Beterbiev-Bivol unification fight and we might not really see it. Maybe this is still doable if DAZN allows Bivol to fight at ESPN. But I also wonder if Top Rank and ESPN would risk it knowing Beterbiev's end will come to an end sooner or later if he won't retire.

Not going to argue that one but as of now, in this upcoming fight, I don't see that Beterbiev's KO streak will be ended by Smith and it is a great news as well that it will not happen in Smith's backyard. I know he's quite durable but I would like to see Beterbiev testing his chin so that we can see if it's made of glass or not as I don't think that someone could survive and just shake it off after receiving a clean blow from the 3-belt champion. Maybe someone in the future when Beterbiev will be much older but in this case, I don't think so.

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Interesting that Top Rank/ESPN once again beat Matchroom/DAZN in the purse bid. I'm just glad this fight is not happening in Smith's backyard otherwise the judges will once again favor the Briton just like during the Yarde fight.

I believe Mundo's chin is tough as hell but we'll see how tough is it when he is facing a champion with a 100% KO rate. I am seeing Beterbiev scoring another stoppage in the middle or late in the fight. But considering Beterbiev's age of 38, I won't be surprised that one of his opponents these days will end his undefeated streak. Callum is a good fighter so there's also the chance that he is the one to exploit Beterbiev's age.

The fans are craving a Beterbiev-Bivol unification fight and we might not really see it. Maybe this is still doable if DAZN allows Bivol to fight at ESPN. But I also wonder if Top Rank and ESPN would risk it knowing Beterbiev's end will come to an end sooner or later if he won't retire.

Not going to argue that one but as of now, in this upcoming fight, I don't see that Beterbiev's KO streak will be ended by Smith and it is a great news as well that it will not happen in Smith's backyard. I know he's quite durable but I would like to see Beterbiev testing his chin so that we can see if it's made of glass or not as I don't think that someone could survive and just shake it off after receiving a clean blow from the 3-belt champion. Maybe someone in the future when Beterbiev will be much older but in this case, I don't think so.

Beterbiev at 38 can still dominate a fight, that age is still young even though many considered the age as past prime.  With his 100% KO ratio, we all know how devastating his punches are.  So more likely Smith will end up kissing the canvas if he became careless. But at the same time, we can't underestimate Smith's sharp left hook which often renders his opponent unable to continue the fight.  So this fight is a matter of who will connect a devastating punch first making us to say that the fight can go either way.

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June 11, 2023, 03:19:46 PM
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Interesting that Top Rank/ESPN once again beat Matchroom/DAZN in the purse bid. I'm just glad this fight is not happening in Smith's backyard otherwise the judges will once again favor the Briton just like during the Yarde fight.

I believe Mundo's chin is tough as hell but we'll see how tough is it when he is facing a champion with a 100% KO rate. I am seeing Beterbiev scoring another stoppage in the middle or late in the fight. But considering Beterbiev's age of 38, I won't be surprised that one of his opponents these days will end his undefeated streak. Callum is a good fighter so there's also the chance that he is the one to exploit Beterbiev's age.

The fans are craving a Beterbiev-Bivol unification fight and we might not really see it. Maybe this is still doable if DAZN allows Bivol to fight at ESPN. But I also wonder if Top Rank and ESPN would risk it knowing Beterbiev's end will come to an end sooner or later if he won't retire.

Not going to argue that one but as of now, in this upcoming fight, I don't see that Beterbiev's KO streak will be ended by Smith and it is a great news as well that it will not happen in Smith's backyard. I know he's quite durable but I would like to see Beterbiev testing his chin so that we can see if it's made of glass or not as I don't think that someone could survive and just shake it off after receiving a clean blow from the 3-belt champion. Maybe someone in the future when Beterbiev will be much older but in this case, I don't think so.

Beterbiev at 38 can still dominate a fight, that age is still young even though many considered the age as past prime.  With his 100% KO ratio, we all know how devastating his punches are.  So more likely Smith will end up kissing the canvas if he became careless. But at the same time, we can't underestimate Smith's sharp left hook which often renders his opponent unable to continue the fight.  So this fight is a matter of who will connect a devastating punch first making us to say that the fight can go either way.

Beterbiev's chin is no longer the same as before as evidenced during the Yarde fight although it is still tough so we will see if Mundo can land his bombs on that chin. If this fight happened some years ago, Beterbiev will definitely shrug the power punches off. Beterbiev had been hit a lot by stronger opponents in the past, especially by the best opponent in his career so far, the batchmate and friend of Usyk and Loma, the former lineal champion Oleksandr Gvozdyk. Beterbiev would've lost that fight if not for iron chin.

All if not most are expecting another KO win by Beterbiev so maybe he should be given a shot at Bivol for a chance to become undisputed. Bivol's team is reluctant to give in to Canelo's demands for a rematch so hopefully, a deal with Beterbiev happens. It will be a very interesting and exciting fight. Bivol is not Gvozdyk but with Beterbiev's current reflexes, he should be able to outpoint him. But as always, a single well-timed clean power punch from Beterbiev will change the outcome of the fight.     

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Although Bivol and his camp shows intentions already to make this fight with Beterbiev. However, Beterbiev will have to go and win against Smith first. The thoughts of this 2 Russians fighting for the unification came to fruition when Bivol and his camp are not satisfied with what Canelo is offering them for a rematch. For them at least a good 50/50 split will make sense since Bivol already beat Canelo in their first fight. But it seems Canelo still wanted to get the biggest split of the purse and the money in the table which for now Bivol and his team rejected.

I've read Canelo's announcement and its arrogant for him to give Bivol that kind of a deal he was dominated, if he wants to avenge his loss and prove that he can beat the guy he should have given Bivol a fair deal to make the fight happen, Canelo knows Bivol will not accept the offer so Canelo can justify why he doesn't want to fight Bivol.

Light heavyweight will never be Canelo's territory because it is ruled by two of the most powerful punchers in Bivol and Beterbiev, Canelo should not over-extend himself.

Canelo still have the leverage over getting big cuts even when he is only a leftover. Can't say he doesn't have a place but because the promotion is with him, he can dictate terms.
Bivol vs AB I guess will happen if that is the case. Which promotion will take them can be a question. Would it be easy to promote a fight where the main event are both Russian? Adding big names in the main card will probably make the hype.


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Although Bivol and his camp shows intentions already to make this fight with Beterbiev. However, Beterbiev will have to go and win against Smith first. The thoughts of this 2 Russians fighting for the unification came to fruition when Bivol and his camp are not satisfied with what Canelo is offering them for a rematch. For them at least a good 50/50 split will make sense since Bivol already beat Canelo in their first fight. But it seems Canelo still wanted to get the biggest split of the purse and the money in the table which for now Bivol and his team rejected.

I've read Canelo's announcement and its arrogant for him to give Bivol that kind of a deal he was dominated, if he wants to avenge his loss and prove that he can beat the guy he should have given Bivol a fair deal to make the fight happen, Canelo knows Bivol will not accept the offer so Canelo can justify why he doesn't want to fight Bivol.

Light heavyweight will never be Canelo's territory because it is ruled by two of the most powerful punchers in Bivol and Beterbiev, Canelo should not over-extend himself.

Canelo still have the leverage over getting big cuts even when he is only a leftover. Can't say he doesn't have a place but because the promotion is with him, he can dictate terms.
Bivol vs AB I guess will happen if that is the case. Which promotion will take them can be a question. Would it be easy to promote a fight where the main event are both Russian? Adding big names in the main card will probably make the hype.


Yes, it is true that Canelo still have the leverage to be in the A-side after all what happened to him recently but asking for a rematch while having the same terms? That is quite absurd because they thought that Bivol will just agree with it just because fighting Canelo is a sure money, but no. Bivol's camp and manager, Vadim Kornilov, is not interested with it as they think that Canelo is just underestimating them for giving the same terms instead of him chasing them as Canelo was the one who lost the first fight.

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June 15, 2023, 09:16:00 PM
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Although Bivol and his camp shows intentions already to make this fight with Beterbiev. However, Beterbiev will have to go and win against Smith first. The thoughts of this 2 Russians fighting for the unification came to fruition when Bivol and his camp are not satisfied with what Canelo is offering them for a rematch. For them at least a good 50/50 split will make sense since Bivol already beat Canelo in their first fight. But it seems Canelo still wanted to get the biggest split of the purse and the money in the table which for now Bivol and his team rejected.

I've read Canelo's announcement and its arrogant for him to give Bivol that kind of a deal he was dominated, if he wants to avenge his loss and prove that he can beat the guy he should have given Bivol a fair deal to make the fight happen, Canelo knows Bivol will not accept the offer so Canelo can justify why he doesn't want to fight Bivol.

Light heavyweight will never be Canelo's territory because it is ruled by two of the most powerful punchers in Bivol and Beterbiev, Canelo should not over-extend himself.

Canelo still have the leverage over getting big cuts even when he is only a leftover. Can't say he doesn't have a place but because the promotion is with him, he can dictate terms.
Bivol vs AB I guess will happen if that is the case. Which promotion will take them can be a question. Would it be easy to promote a fight where the main event are both Russian? Adding big names in the main card will probably make the hype.


Yes, it is true that Canelo still have the leverage to be in the A-side after all what happened to him recently but asking for a rematch while having the same terms? That is quite absurd because they thought that Bivol will just agree with it just because fighting Canelo is a sure money, but no. Bivol's camp and manager, Vadim Kornilov, is not interested with it as they think that Canelo is just underestimating them for giving the same terms instead of him chasing them as Canelo was the one who lost the first fight.

If Canelo Alvarez will still try and push a rematch while having the same terms and having him in the A-side will indeed make the fight seems impossible to materialize because chasing for a rematch means that he needs to be humble too while accepting the fact that the A-side will not belong to him anymore. After all, he should make all amends as possible so that he can get the approval from Bivol's camp as currently, they are not interested as they have their eyes set to another prize.
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June 15, 2023, 09:22:29 PM
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If Canelo Alvarez will still try and push a rematch while having the same terms and having him in the A-side will indeed make the fight seems impossible to materialize because chasing for a rematch means that he needs to be humble too while accepting the fact that the A-side will not belong to him anymore. After all, he should make all amends as possible so that he can get the approval from Bivol's camp as currently, they are not interested as they have their eyes set to another prize.

I hope he will realize that the terms have to change since this is a rematch, and he wants to redeem himself against Bivol. It will not work if he expects a bigger share in the fight, considering that Bivol is the current champion and the one who defeated him in their previous fight. In my opinion, that's being greedy and unfair in terms of the proper way of negotiation. Although this mostly revolves around money, respect is a must for the fighter who is at the top.

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June 19, 2023, 07:47:34 PM
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If Canelo Alvarez will still try and push a rematch while having the same terms and having him in the A-side will indeed make the fight seems impossible to materialize because chasing for a rematch means that he needs to be humble too while accepting the fact that the A-side will not belong to him anymore. After all, he should make all amends as possible so that he can get the approval from Bivol's camp as currently, they are not interested as they have their eyes set to another prize.

I hope he will realize that the terms have to change since this is a rematch, and he wants to redeem himself against Bivol. It will not work if he expects a bigger share in the fight, considering that Bivol is the current champion and the one who defeated him in their previous fight. In my opinion, that's being greedy and unfair in terms of the proper way of negotiation. Although this mostly revolves around money, respect is a must for the fighter who is at the top.

Making a Bivol as their business logo of their camp, we cannot blame them if they try and impose the same terms on Bivol for the said rematch because who knows, Bivols camp might agree with it as Canelo can always offer a much bigger fight than anybody he had fought with. But since Bivol's camp have already said that they are not going to be interested if it's the same term, then Canelo and his camp together with Eddie Hearn should adjust with it so that they can make the fight happen.

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