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May 29, 2023, 08:48:48 PM
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Even though it sounds very creative, the sports betting idea that you mentioned is very difficult to implement because some coaches are kept (usually for financial reasons of the club) in the club even though the team he coached had a poor performance during a certain season running.  but there are also several teams that fire their coaches when the pressure from the fans is strong (usually due to poor team performance or other cases) because the wishes of the fans is what the club's management really cares about.  if betting ideas like this appear, then the end result is really like playing slots (only based on luck)

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May 29, 2023, 11:15:18 PM
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100 to 1 odds for playing for one of the worlds greatest teams doesnt seem that amazing, or perhaps that nine year old was one of the best players in his entire region.    I like a long shot bet but I want 1000 to 1 if its a multi bet on long shot odds way into the future.   It was a smart move by the dad because he needed that money back for all the money spent training his kid up along the way.
   I have heard of people being able to sell out and cash out a bet that has vastly improved in odds along the way, reduce the risk of the pay out is why they sometimes offer this possibility.  Most often seen for the very simple bets not anything complicated.

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May 30, 2023, 08:09:27 AM
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It would be an interesting bet and I wonder how the managers of each club would feel if they saw their names on the sports betting register. It definitely won't be comfortable seeing their names there and maybe it will make them exert their energy and mind so they can still be managers at their club.

If there is a suggestion for these managers to be put into betting in crypto casinos, the casinos may try it into the new link in their casino. But it doesn't look like the casinos will put it on their betting list yet.
I bet they won't be as happy as us betting for them to be fired.  Cheesy

Nah, it will not happen.
First, there's really not much profit in this, and fewer people know who these managers are or other high-ranking men in the sports industry. In NBA, I only knew GMs who are doing such controversial changes in the roster and even pulling some strings to take their pet player. Daryl Morey for example, is the president of the 76ers basketball operations. Wherever he goes James Harden will be there and I do believe he finds Harden like his money-making machine which is why he kept on pulling him at the team he works for.

Back to the discussion, sports betting sites will have to study this first before they can input it in the list of available bets, if they find it less inviting to gamblers then they will just erase it when there's a chance and I doubt there will be many gamblers who will see this a profitable bet considering it could take years before they step down or be fired.

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May 30, 2023, 08:39:08 AM
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It’s a nice idea, they could be a bookie who has that option already, you may not know because you don’t use them

There are over 5000 bookies worldwide

It’ll be a nice thing to see such option in 1XBet and other popular bookies but who has such patience to wait for that long to see if your bet enters or not?

Assuming the coach is eventually sacked after 6months of your bet, you’ll stay for 6 whole months to know the outcome of your bet?

That’s awkward and crazy😳

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May 30, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
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This is very cool idea. In my country, Turkish football league, managers are casually sacked so people would really love to guess which managers will be sacked. I think there are some teams that are expected to be unsuccessful in leagues like always. Some club fans always tend to blame board and managers altogether. But most of the time scapegoat will just be manager. There could be betting to guess which team will be first kick their manager out.
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May 30, 2023, 07:26:15 PM
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The coaches who have a history of doing well would be the coaches that have the highest odds. That's where the money would be.

Most sportsbooks futures bets for certain sports. You can bet on the number of wins a team will have in a season. It's not the same as betting on what coach will get fired, but if a team is shitty with a new coach, you might make some money betting on the under in games they will win.

I see your point. But to be honest, I wouldn't say I like long-term bets, so there is that question about the popularity of these kinds of bets. Are they popular, and how popular are they?

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May 30, 2023, 08:36:57 PM
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The coaches who have a history of doing well would be the coaches that have the highest odds. That's where the money would be.

Most sportsbooks futures bets for certain sports. You can bet on the number of wins a team will have in a season. It's not the same as betting on what coach will get fired, but if a team is shitty with a new coach, you might make some money betting on the under in games they will win.

I see your point. But to be honest, I wouldn't say I like long-term bets, so there is that question about the popularity of these kinds of bets. Are they popular, and how popular are they?
I think what would make a long term bet more popular for a particular user is their knowledge on the particular sport that they might make a futures bet in and the possible payoff.

For example, you are super knowledgeable on a particular coach that a team just picked up. That team had a shit season last year, but a good draft in the offseason and picked up this spectacular coach. You might bet the over on them and feel like it's guaranteed money a few months later.

Or you might bet that they win the championship for even better odds. Bet $5 to win $5000 or something crazy like that.

I've only seen futures bets in NBA and NFL, but I'm sure you could find them for other sport if you check your usual sportsbook.

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May 30, 2023, 08:56:39 PM
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wouldn't this be prone to cheating? I mean, people in each club that has information on whether the manager of the club will get fired or not can team up to relay information to each other and bet on the manager that is guaranteed that will get fired. I know what I said sounds absurd but knowing how fixed match happens, I do not doubt that this can happen too especially if there is profit.
Like you said this kind of act has been going on ever since but I think they will be some kind regulation to this kind of betting, like it may be added as an outright option so no much fixing can take place and every bet on a supposed manager to be sacked will eventually be settled at the end of the football season.

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June 01, 2023, 05:14:18 PM
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If this was way back a few years ago, there’d be a market for this Grin

While it is not completely a sports thing but rather a management-related one, fans can still enjoy betting on who leaves next based on the team’s performance so in a way, it is somehow predictable. It may not be as sure as player transfers and whatnot but the grounds on which manager goes next is still there and gamblers just need to make sure that they hit the right predictions.

But yeah, the market for this will be very low though it’s a good idea still.
But has this only happened on 2022-2023? I think in each year, there will always be a bad manager because there are others/lots of leagues out there and I don't think not all of them are performing well. There's also other sports which can experience the same in terms of management but unfortunately, there are no markets yet being offered on them.

Now that the OP opened this up and if there are people who are interested on the same thing, maybe we can recommend it on some betting site? Or if there are betting sites who will read this thread, they might be the one who will add it but they must do an announcement about this new feature. I know a betting site who offers markets for any types of events including on the uncommon/unrealistic ones. It's called Futuur. Maybe we can also ping them about this.

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June 01, 2023, 06:09:42 PM
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This is very cool idea. In my country, Turkish football league, managers are casually sacked so people would really love to guess which managers will be sacked. I think there are some teams that are expected to be unsuccessful in leagues like always. Some club fans always tend to blame board and managers altogether. But most of the time scapegoat will just be manager. There could be betting to guess which team will be first kick their manager out.
What kind of bet is that?
I think this bet is just a joke because guessing whose manager will be fired on a football team is not an easy thing, moreover, there are lots of rumors of that kind of dismissal circulating, making it more difficult for us to predict what will be at stake.
If there was such a bet I would never get interested and spend a little money to participate.
It's better to bet on normal betting options because it's easier to predict and of course it gives us our own satisfaction for the predictions we have made.

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June 01, 2023, 06:56:53 PM
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This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?
How to accumulate this kind of gambling because the coach's performance will be calculated based on the results they gave to the club before the dismissal. I think that for professional gambler will not choose long-term betting like the accumulation you think, because people want a short time to see the results of the bets placed. Sportsbet.io may be able to implement this in their sportsbook but I'm not sure people will be interested in following this kind of betting system for a long time to come.

Although it cannot be denied whether or not this type of gambling exists, I think it is very likely that one of the gambling companies will do it, either in the near future or it is only a matter of time. I can guess the three coaches who will stay next season in the Premier League, Pep Guardiola, Mikel Arteta and Erik Ten Hak, please include in your bets OP. LOL

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June 01, 2023, 10:24:38 PM
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This type of gambling  isn't a bad idea at all bit I think it will really take very long time to come up with results and most gamblers always want a short time bet to ascertain their winnings .
This type  of gambling might be very difficult to predict and wouldn't be favouravle to the gambler but the house as most times, most of these coaches always give incredible le results at some unexpected times.
I wouldn't be shocked if I get to see this type of games in a sportbook especially  since it will be give them more  money die to its difficulty in prediction.
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This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

This depends on the place where the manager end the season and as the season progress, the matches they have won before the January transfer period, there is no way you can detect if a manager will be sack except when there is end of contract which may warrant renew or end of the contract, I don't think it will be fun to bet on this kind of category, it is an option that is not closer to 50:50, you will only lose everything you have because the Odds would be tempting judging by the behaviour of betting companies, they will do anything to attract players to play that option.

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June 02, 2023, 02:37:29 AM
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This type of gambling  isn't a bad idea at all bit I think it will really take very long time to come up with results and most gamblers always want a short time bet to ascertain their winnings .
This type  of gambling might be very difficult to predict and wouldn't be favouravle to the gambler but the house as most times, most of these coaches always give incredible le results at some unexpected times.
I wouldn't be shocked if I get to see this type of games in a sportbook especially  since it will be give them more  money die to its difficulty in prediction.

Opening an idea might trigger the bookies to bring this inside the table, though like what you've said it's not favorable to the bettors as the money will sit inside the house and the chance is really slim in winning your bet, but we never know if one day you'll be seeing this kind of bet being available, the question is when and which sports house will offer it first and if gambler will buy it out and gamble their money in predicting which manager will be removed.

Maybe it can also be applicable with NBA's coaches as they really being a hot topic after losing playoffs. Just saying!

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June 02, 2023, 03:14:59 AM
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The top sports betting platforms won't probably offer odds on things like this.

But who knows? It's going to be unpredictable and there will also be a lot of choices. It seems a bit interesting.

Whenever a discussion on something like this comes out, I immediately remember Futuur. It is still active until now. It is a crypto betting site which was promoted here years ago. And it has the most unique things to bet on like whether humans will land on Mars by the end of 2024. And they also accept suggestions. So I guess you could submit this one and let's see if they will accept it.

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June 02, 2023, 08:39:08 AM
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This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

This depends on the place where the manager end the season and as the season progress, the matches they have won before the January transfer period, there is no way you can detect if a manager will be sack except when there is end of contract which may warrant renew or end of the contract, I don't think it will be fun to bet on this kind of category, it is an option that is not closer to 50:50, you will only lose everything you have because the Odds would be tempting judging by the behaviour of betting companies, they will do anything to attract players to play that option.
And while it's going to be a tough bet, it will be a challenge for gamblers to guess which manager will be sacked at the end of the season, so I think that makes the bet even more interesting. And if the manager's performance in assembling the team is better than before, maybe that can change the results that will come out so that many people's predictions for the manager will change too. And as long as there is a challenge behind the bet, I think there must be a lot of gamblers who want to place a manager bet on which team will leave the manager's chair.

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June 02, 2023, 08:47:13 AM
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Below is a list of Premier League 2022-23: Managers who were sacked this season1
  • Brendan Rodgers, Leicester City
  • Graham Potter, Chelsea
  • Antonio Conte, Spurs
  • Patrick Vieira, Crystal Palace
  • Nathan Jones, Southampton
  • Jesse Marsch, Leeds
  • Frank Lampard, Everton
  • Ralph Hasenhüttl, Southampton
  • Steven Gerrard, Aston Villa
  • Bruno Lage, Wolverhampton Wanderers
  • Thomas Tuchel, Chelsea
  • Scott Parker, Bournemouth

This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

This is not the first experience in having such encounters with football managers being sacked, quite alright it may be die to their poor performance as expected especially when the team they manage perform woefully where they are expected to make a good edge, it also depends on the rate and level of coordination among the team members which the manager will be hold responsible if he's unable to achieve this perfect blend as well, as a football team, they are meant to have an increased performance on their matches especially when a new manager set in to take the lead of the team to the next level.

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June 02, 2023, 09:01:58 AM
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this kind of bet it is too subject to insider trading... it would be seriously easy have some insights and act in consequence...
staff could know in advance what the moves would be for the various teams and move accordingly Roll Eyes

BTW you could still use blockchains that allow you to bet on events (for example, manager xxx will be fired by) like with AUGUR or other similar crypto...

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June 02, 2023, 09:05:45 AM
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Below is a list of Premier League 2022-23: Managers who were sacked this season1
  • Brendan Rodgers, Leicester City
  • Graham Potter, Chelsea
  • Antonio Conte, Spurs
  • Patrick Vieira, Crystal Palace
  • Nathan Jones, Southampton
  • Jesse Marsch, Leeds
  • Frank Lampard, Everton
  • Ralph Hasenhüttl, Southampton
  • Steven Gerrard, Aston Villa
  • Bruno Lage, Wolverhampton Wanderers
  • Thomas Tuchel, Chelsea
  • Scott Parker, Bournemouth

This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?


1. https://khelnow.com/football/2023-02-world-football-premier-league-2022-23-managers-sacked-this-season
This is an idea that's worth trying out. We all know how some of our favorite top clubs performed this season  and most of the comments on social media by its loving fans was just to sack the coach or the coach will be sacked by end of season. Really most of these thoughts actually happened.
It would be nice to try it out since sports betting has developed to accommodate more odds and chances that normally wasn't there.
At least as a bonus odd for good reward.

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June 02, 2023, 09:20:28 AM
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This is very cool idea. In my country, Turkish football league, managers are casually sacked so people would really love to guess which managers will be sacked. I think there are some teams that are expected to be unsuccessful in leagues like always. Some club fans always tend to blame board and managers altogether. But most of the time scapegoat will just be manager. There could be betting to guess which team will be first kick their manager out.
What kind of bet is that?
I think this bet is just a joke because guessing whose manager will be fired on a football team is not an easy thing, moreover, there are lots of rumors of that kind of dismissal circulating, making it more difficult for us to predict what will be at stake.
If there was such a bet I would never get interested and spend a little money to participate.
It's better to bet on normal betting options because it's easier to predict and of course it gives us our own satisfaction for the predictions we have made.
Putting money on when a football manager will receive their marching orders? That's injecting a whole new dimension of dynamism into traditional sports gambling, akin to forecasting the likelihood of a band's drummer going ballistic on his kit during a live gig. I concur, it's a wild and winding road, this bet. But isn't it the sheer unpredictability, the pulse-quickening suspense, that fans the flames of our gambling spirit? Let's pivot, though, and entertain the perspective of the sceptics among us.

The variables in this gamble are as numerous as comments on a viral Twitter thread. Sure, club performance weighs heavily on a manager's survival, but other undercurrents can trigger a dismissal: backstage discord, fiscal tightropes, to name a few. Unless you possess insider intel, or are adept at deciphering coded language in boardroom exchanges, you'd be as lost as an amateur meme-maker in the chaotic internet culture. While the appeal of such high-risk, high-reward bets is undeniable, we must remember to balance our adventurous spirit with a dash of reality. Traditional betting options still hold their charm, offering a safer harbor in the turbulent sea of gambling.

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