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Author Topic: Why do you still want to play fake web2 casinos? Why we choose web3 casinos  (Read 1052 times)
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May 29, 2023, 10:35:45 AM
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453737.msg62314774#msg62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

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May 29, 2023, 10:47:33 AM
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I do not think moderator should move your announcement thread from gambling to altcoins board, but it is because no true bitcoin wallet is Web3. Web3 wallets like Metamawk, Trustwallet Coinbase wallet and many others are connecting to altcoins Web3. There is nothing about Web3 that is related to bitcoin.

Web2 are not bad either. I use many of them and they are good. But I wish moderator to have left Web3 gambling site official thread on gambling board too, but bitcoin not being Web3 would be the valid reason it was moved.

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May 29, 2023, 10:50:31 AM
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I agree with you that web3 casinos are potentially fairer than web2 casinos, with the consideration that they are open source and that fund handling is decentralized (as you claim in your thread). Though the reason your thread is moved to Altcoins is not because admins are against decentralization, it is because the forum is the Bitcoin forum...I don't agree with this personally because web2 casinos are sketchy at best these days, but that's just the rules. Unfortunately it is difficult to achieve the feet of a decentralized web3 game that accepts Bitcoin. If you do achieve that feet though, then you can gain exposure in this board.
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May 29, 2023, 10:55:30 AM
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Bitcoin was invented to get rid of middlemen. Web3 does exactly that. We are trying to save you from middlemen and make more reliable platforms. So basically we serve the purpose of bitcoin, but since we accept wbtc instead of bitcoin, it's really sad that we can't find a place in this forum. I think they should reconsider on this.

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May 29, 2023, 11:00:03 AM
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So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

If you want to be under the gambling section properly without having the Moderators move your thread to the Altcoin section, then you have to include Bitcoin in your means of funding, which seems impossible since you are Web 3 projects, unless you want to go beyond that and then make it some kind of Dua something where the Bitcoin network will be integrated into your case. I don't know how, but maybe you can think outside the box, and maybe your developers can be the first to properly develop something that can allow direct connecting of Bitcoin wallets to an online casino site since it seems we don't actually have one that I know of.

The things that could actually make you stand out from your competitors are that you offer a better service than they do, have more transparency, be open, and have more quality features that can only be seen on your side of the casino.

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May 29, 2023, 11:07:52 AM
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.


Add Bitcoin as payment currency so that you can move back your ANN thread here in gambling section. This thread is dedicated for casino that accepting Bitcoin while your casino accepts altcoin only. But since your casino is pure decentralized using smart contract then I doubt that Bitcoin is possible on your current feature.


So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

Do more marketing in the form of promotion and giveaways. You won’t onboard players with just the casino feature itself. Players always chase for the benefits since they think that it's a disadvantage against the casino.

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May 29, 2023, 11:30:28 AM
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As you can see, there are no much interest in your casino anymore and as a result of your unprofessional presentation and neglecting bitcoin as a payment option on you casino coupled with the fact that your casino is a web2 casino, the actions against your announcement thread here.  If you still want this thread to be relevant,  do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible and lastly, there is a bit of confusion on he announcement thread as regards your true stands on the scam allegations posted on your thread can you do ell to clarify it as it was said this casino is not related to it. I will need some clarification as regards that.

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May 29, 2023, 11:32:11 AM
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453737.msg62314774#msg62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

Because their reputation speaks up louder than those new casino offer web3 feature. This one is the important factor why people still gamble on web2 casino since they already prove that they can handle their business so well and they satisfy many gamblers who try their casino service. But if Web3 became more famous for sure those existing casino will also shift to web3 so I guess the only deciding factor for people to shift to other casino is if their existing one will not show any appealing promotion nor rather became active on changes like this.

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May 29, 2023, 11:34:24 AM
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The main thing is that the casino or other gambling services meet the requirements of honesty in the conditions. What difference does it make web2 or web3 if the casino has an open source and is accredited by programmers who see that the chances of winning are fair?
I think that such conditions are enough to safely play in an online casino.

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May 29, 2023, 11:52:59 AM
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The main thing is that the casino or other gambling services meet the requirements of honesty in the conditions. What difference does it make web2 or web3 if the casino has an open source and is accredited by programmers who see that the chances of winning are fair?
I think that such conditions are enough to safely play in an online casino.

Exactly, Web3 casino have a license to operate while they are just using a 3rd party provider for their games is audited and license too by gambling regulator. A pure decentralised casino is not in demand that much since centralized casino already move forward on the legality compared before that most casino do exit scam since they have nothing to lose because the owner is a complete anonymous.

Centralized casino is operating for so long without a problem or known serious scam accusations that doesn't solved. I doubt decentralized casino can beat that considering the games offered on web3 casino is very plain and simple.

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May 29, 2023, 12:20:36 PM
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As you can see, there are no much interest in your casino anymore and as a result of your unprofessional presentation

They need to understand the reason why a professional expertise is needed in making their presentations for them and administering to the affairs of the casino, people no longer make use of web2 again as before, they have to maintain this new era of development by a steady financial commitment and running of their casino in a standard operational level, the more their delivery task the more opportunities place for them.

do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible

This is another reason to their being u professional enough because most standard casinos accept bitcoin, they may decided not to accept other cryptocurrencies but bitcoin is a must for acceptabilities despite if they have their own coin introduced.
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Bitcoin was invented to get rid of middlemen. Web3 does exactly that. We are trying to save you from middlemen and make more reliable platforms. So basically we serve the purpose of bitcoin, but since we accept wbtc instead of bitcoin, it's really sad that we can't find a place in this forum. I think they should reconsider on this.
Let us hope so until one day that regulators will come after anything Web3, in a way that they will force you to make KYC mandatory. Yet no middle man but not centralization.

Your topic was moved because gambling board is under bitcoin boards but Web3 is not related to bitcoin.

The main thing is that the casino or other gambling services meet the requirements of honesty in the conditions. What difference does it make web2 or web3 if the casino has an open source and is accredited by programmers who see that the chances of winning are fair?
I think that such conditions are enough to safely play in an online casino.
Some centralized crypto casinos are satisfying their customers. It is just like smart contract decentralized and centralised exchanges. If you are satisfying your customers, they will advice other people to join.

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I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.

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May 29, 2023, 02:36:27 PM
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453737.msg62314774#msg62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos?
You may be wrong in your conclusion of admin not liking decentralization because they move web3 casinos ANN to altcoin sectioned but between the whole idea of web3 is linked to altcoin and has even added centralization more than decentralization so this has nothing to do with decentralization being the reason for the movement of the thread to altcoin boards.
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May 29, 2023, 02:49:36 PM
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Bitcoin was invented to get rid of middlemen. Web3 does exactly that. We are trying to save you from middlemen and make more reliable platforms. So basically we serve the purpose of bitcoin, but since we accept wbtc instead of bitcoin, it's really sad that we can't find a place in this forum. I think they should reconsider on this.
It's actually you're the one who need to reconsider to add Bitcoin if you want your thread stay in gambling section.

Any tokens in ETH or centralized chain is centralized, there's no such ETH is decentralized if you're not use a centralized site, it's just a less decentralized and there's a chance all the ETH or centralized chain token could be frozen even you hold it on your non custodial wallet.

A real decentralization need to use a decentralized coin, not just a free KYC site and without deposit.

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May 29, 2023, 03:05:50 PM
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453737.msg62314774#msg62314774

Don't take it against the moderators they have rules for admins of the platforms to follow so we have to accept that decision that your platform is not for this board your platform is smart contract based and it follows that it should be on the altcoin section where all smart contract based platform is housed.

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So let's discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos?
Just get your smart contract audited if you cannot add Bitcoin you can still establish your position in the altcoin section, there are gamblers who support Web3 and don't try to compete in centralized casinos both have their own share of the market and followers.

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May 29, 2023, 03:10:25 PM
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I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.


Of course, we are working on having a license. But what is the license for? It is to protect the user from central authorities. Getting licenses for DAOs isn't easy because contracts own the system. For example, AAVE is like a bank, but it does not have a bank license. There is a lot of uncertainty about DAOs. Hopefully, we'll be the first to figure this out. Here users have to trust the contracts. For the security of the codes, of course, it is necessary to have audits with highly reputable security companies. All of this has already been done. We are negotiating with various license providers on the other issue and we will definitely reach a conclusion.

Currently, games can be played with WBTC on the platform. It is not possible to integrate Bitcoin in a decentralized way. If we get into the deposit-and-play thing like everyone else, then we'll compromise on decentralization.

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May 29, 2023, 03:15:22 PM
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Don't take it against the moderators they have rules for admins of the platforms to follow so we have to accept that decision that your platform is not for this board your platform is smart contract based and it follows that it should be on the altcoin section where all smart contract based platform is housed.

Just get your smart contract audited if you cannot add Bitcoin you can still establish your position in the altcoin section, there are gamblers who support Web3 and don't try to compete in centralized casinos both have their own share of the market and followers.

No, we don't take it against the moderators, we just want them to reconsider the rules. After all, this is a centralized forum and they can rethink these rules and make a new decision. We feel that these rules prevent us from competing with web2 casinos.

The audit processes of our contracts already have been completed. You can have a look at the link below.

https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/audit

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Don't take it against the moderators they have rules for admins of the platforms to follow so we have to accept that decision that your platform is not for this board your platform is smart contract based and it follows that it should be on the altcoin section where all smart contract based platform is housed.

Just get your smart contract audited if you cannot add Bitcoin you can still establish your position in the altcoin section, there are gamblers who support Web3 and don't try to compete in centralized casinos both have their own share of the market and followers.

No, we don't take it against the moderators, we just want them to reconsider the rules. After all, this is a centralized forum and they can rethink these rules and make a new decision. We feel that these rules prevent us from competing with web2 casinos.

The audit processes of our contracts already have been completed. You can have a look at the link below.

https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/audit
No offense but what you feel doesn't matter in this case. You have been told by many already that your thread was moved due to the fact that you don't allow btc deposits. If you wish to be in this section, just make btc an option on your site. They're not censoring you or not allowing you to post, they're following the rules of the forum.

If they allow you to keep your thread in this section, then they have to allow everyone else. It's nothing against you.

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May 29, 2023, 03:53:21 PM
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You don't want to take it against the mods but you're saying they don't like decentralization hehe. Why do you also attack web 2 casinos by calling them unfair and fake? I doubt most players would even consider opening your site with that kind of approach to promote your own.

There are hybrid gambling platforms here that allows connecting personal wallet directly to the casino while also giving players the option to login via email. Maybe try to look at them and see if you could adapt.

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