Why do you still want to play fake web2 casinos? Why we choose web3 casinos

[Doan9269]

do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible

This is another reason to their being unprofessional enough because most standard casinos accept bitcoin, they may decided not to accept other cryptocurrencies but bitcoin is a must for acceptabilities despite if they have their own coin introduced.

Bitcoin is the first priority for every casino because it is a general commodity for all gamblers online. When it comes to funds mostly and commonly used by online gamblers, you think of bitcoin because bitcoin has been there onset from the very first beginning of online gambling and it has been there and would  still remain there and moreover, it is the first cryptocurrency to be acknowledged and accepted as a digital currency before the advent of other crypto currency so therefore, any new generational casino that is thinking of standing without including bitcoin as a means of payment is likely not going anywhere because nobody would look into their way to gamble with them. Justbet should know about this before they doom themselves.

Though we cannot also derived the conclusion on every casino not in support of bitcoin from their platform as a fake one, everyone has their own policy and target but what we make sure to emphasize here is the need to let the fact that most casinos support bitcoin even if they don't accept other cryptocurrencies, and there decision on this begins with how we begin to have take on them wether they are reliable casino or scam, through the indications of what we receives as signals base on their policy and requirements needed on their website.

[CryptSafe]

do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible

This is another reason to their being unprofessional enough because most standard casinos accept bitcoin, they may decided not to accept other cryptocurrencies but bitcoin is a must for acceptabilities despite if they have their own coin introduced.

Bitcoin is the first priority for every casino because it is a general commodity for all gamblers online. When it comes to funds mostly and commonly used by online gamblers, you think of bitcoin because bitcoin has been there onset from the very first beginning of online gambling and it has been there and would  still remain there and moreover, it is the first cryptocurrency to be acknowledged and accepted as a digital currency before the advent of other crypto currency so therefore, any new generational casino that is thinking of standing without including bitcoin as a means of payment is likely not going anywhere because nobody would look into their way to gamble with them. Justbet should know about this before they doom themselves.

Though we cannot also derived the conclusion on every casino not in support of bitcoin from their platform as a fake one, everyone has their own policy and target but what we make sure to emphasize here is the need to let the fact that most casinos support bitcoin even if they don't accept other cryptocurrencies, and there decision on this begins with how we begin to have take on them wether they are reliable casino or scam, through the indications of what we receives as signals base on their policy and requirements needed on their website.

From their policies, we know how serious a casino is when it comes to customer relations and care. If the policy is too bend to not allowing a free flow between the customer and casino then there is likely a question mark there because there is no how a casino policy would be too bend to not allow customers have their own way about their activities onboard the casino. If that is the contrary is the case then that casino is likely what it is suspected to be and hence they would be called to order in cushioning their activities and policies for a friendly and better environment and interactions.

[wiss19]

Bitcoin was invented to get rid of middlemen. Web3 does exactly that. We are trying to save you from middlemen and make more reliable platforms. So basically we serve the purpose of bitcoin, but since we accept wbtc instead of bitcoin, it's really sad that we can't find a place in this forum. I think they should reconsider on this.

The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.

So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.

[aioc]

I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453737.msg62314774#msg62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

Don't assume they don't like it, you don't know the admins and the administrator of this forum, they are the ones who started decentralization long before you knew a thing about decentralization so don't lecture them about decentralization, there are specific on every section of this forum.

As you can see the majority of casinos here are not smart contract based because they adopt Bitcoin while your platform is not promoting the use of Bitcoin so it's just right that you belong to the altcoin section where smart contract-based platforms are grouped.

[ryzaadit]

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No, need and I believe other people are the same.

It's most of the time 90% always about the bankroll or policy, people do not really care about WEB2/WEB3. Since your main title thread mentions these, so that's just my 2 cent. It's not first time we see these.

Nothing new in my perspective, in the end (web2 casino) still winning.

[JustBet]

No, need and I believe other people are the same.

It's most of the time 90% always about the bankroll or policy, people do not really care about WEB2/WEB3. Since your main title thread mentions these, so that's just my 2 cent. It's not first time we see these.

Nothing new in my perspective, in the end (web2 casino) still winning.

When Uniswap first came out, a few people were using it, but it is now trading for billions of dollars. Many perpetual DEXs have appeared, and they are seeing more trading volume than almost any centralized exchange. Time will tell.

The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.

So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.

However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players.

[Weawant]

I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.

True, also web3 don't have the trust of the community because most of them are accused of scamming and some are actually scamming their customers. Web3 isn't yet popular because the other existing popular crypto casino hasn't given us a reason not to trust them.

Web3 projects doesn't have a good reputation as they're always under attack by getting breach. The popular ones we had turned out not to be totally decentralized so people are doubting if the web 3 casino coming out are decentralized as they say they're

When decentralization fully takes over the internet and projects are built using trusted blockchain, making their web3 projects trustworthy, they'll begin to get customers making use of their casino but for now we still stick with web 2 that are giving us excellent service.

[JustBet]

I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.

True, also web3 don't have the trust of the community because most of them are accused of scamming and some are actually scamming their customers. Web3 isn't yet popular because the other existing popular crypto casino hasn't given us a reason not to trust them.

Web3 projects doesn't have a good reputation as they're always under attack by getting breach. The popular ones we had turned out not to be totally decentralized so people are doubting if the web 3 casino coming out are decentralized as they say they're

When decentralization fully takes over the internet and projects are built using trusted blockchain, making their web3 projects trustworthy, they'll begin to get customers making use of their casino but for now we still stick with web 2 that are giving us excellent service.

While I agree with you on some issues, I disagree on some issues. The point I agree with is that unfortunately there is no clear law regarding DAOs yet. Although this makes it difficult for us to obtain a license, we continue to work in this direction.

What I disagree with is the scam. With the exception of a few trusted web2 casinos, almost 95% can easily scam you and justify themselves. Not your keys, not your coin. However, blockchain casinos will never fool you. In Web3 Casinos, no one can ban you, no one can watch you because you are making too much money, no one can take your money, etc. Even if Web3 Casinos are hacked, users will not be harmed, only the bankroll will be damaged. Because the user does not deposit money anywhere. They play through their own wallet.

[acroman08]

The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.

So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.

However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players.

as I have said before, Gambling casinos that are going to post an ANN thread here need to accept BTC as one of their payment methods. you can make a thread in meta and request a gambling board for an altcoin casino but I doubt it will be approved, there have been threads posted in the past asking for a sub-board for altcoin gambling but it was never approved as there is not enough altcoin gambling being posted in the forum(compare to casinos that accept BTC) to warrant for an altcoin gambling board.

[delfastTions]

The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.

So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.

However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players.

as I have said before, Gambling casinos that are going to post an ANN thread here need to accept BTC as one of their payment methods. you can make a thread in meta and request a gambling board for an altcoin casino but I doubt it will be approved, there have been threads posted in the past asking for a sub-board for altcoin gambling but it was never approved as there is not enough altcoin gambling being posted in the forum(compare to casinos that accept BTC) to warrant for an altcoin gambling board.

This would be a completely wrong decision.  And I think that it will still not work to open a separate gambling board only for altcoins, and the forum administrators will not agree to do this. 
In general, the section "Gambling" here on the forum is so large that it is impossible to open any other sections, for example, for altcoins, simply because this will only confuse the entire navigation system and information profiles on the forum. 
It is probably easier for the authors of this appeal to make it possible to pay for bets in their casino using bitcoin as one of the payment options. 
And then you can safely open a new topic here in this section. 
I don’t really understand what is the complexity of organizing payments in bitcoin when you already have experience working with other altcoins.  Unless only the speed of transactions and network commissions can be a brake on this action. 
But if the casino is serious enough, then for him it will still be an insignificant problem. 
And if the casino is quite small, then there is no need for it to open a topic on our forum.

[FatFork]

However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players.

I understand your point, and if you're really interested in discussing this topic, I recommend starting a new thread in the Meta board. It's possible that the administrators might consider your proposal if there's enough interest from the community.

However, you should keep in mind that this forum, bitcointalk.org, is primarily focused on Bitcoin and Bitcoin-related topics. In the Gambling board, the casinos promoted are expected to support Bitcoin at least as an option for withdrawing and depositing funds. From what I can see, your platform doesn't meet that requirement, which would place it under the Altcoins subforum instead.

[rhomelmabini]

If they accept BRC-20 tokens would that mean anything now considering it's on the Bitcoin network? Not that familiar on this yet but it's fairly simple that it's related to Bitcoin compare to those who erc20 tokens or other chains.

However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players.

The reason is, that was the only board might be related on your thread and moved it on the right board by a moderator. You can actually introduce it to players by doing signatures, contests, be known whatever means it is as long as it's acceptable here. It can be introduced on other things here.

[Agbe]

they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

Moderator moved your ANN thread to altcoins board? Is your project an altcoin or a token? And if your project is not any of the above then moderator would not moved your ANN thread to altcoins board but probably to Service Announcement Board.

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

  Let me start from play stations. People are still using PS2 game station just because it is cheaper to the upgraded ones. Just the web2 and web3. People are still using web2 because probably it cheaper for them to play game so if you want to beat them you have to make some market survey from users and make some research from the net. And make your games in 4D/5D standard and let not your fees should not pursue your customers.

[danadc]

The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.

So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.

However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players.

as I have said before, Gambling casinos that are going to post an ANN thread here need to accept BTC as one of their payment methods. you can make a thread in meta and request a gambling board for an altcoin casino but I doubt it will be approved, there have been threads posted in the past asking for a sub-board for altcoin gambling but it was never approved as there is not enough altcoin gambling being posted in the forum(compare to casinos that accept BTC) to warrant for an altcoin gambling board.

I understand that things can be seen that way here as you say and you are right , I would also say that gambling should have its scope in this space , gambling , this section does not accept altcoins, but it is for gambling , so they should Accept it , but if not because they don't have to bet with bitcoin , it's something that still can't be done , the question here is because they only have Altcoins to play, they are also the gifts of this section , but As others have told him , it would be good if you did or proposed that problem in Meta.

[QueenVera]

I'm sorry  your ANN thread got moved to the alt board but I don't think any moderator will so that without a valid reason and for reference  purposes,  I haven't seen any web3 projects  that actually uses bitcoin  but rather thistle I know of web3 simply shows that more of alt coins are  been used which is a clear reason why your thread got moved.

Web3 games are great but it isn't nice you think the forum or moderators don't like decentralization and I don't have much to say about your web3 games but just keep your head straight and try  using Bitcoin.

[libert19]

Unless web3 casino is on a fee-less blockchain, for example Hive, I'd stick to web2 casinos, even cents as fees can mount to a good amount of money when played long enough.

[Negotiation]

Web3 is new so most people believe that AI will play an important role in Web3. This is due to the heavy involvement of machine to machine communication and decision making that will be required to run many Web3 applications. web3 is nothing more than a rebranding effort for crypto, aiming to shake off some of the industry's cultural and political baggage and convince people that blockchains are the natural next step in computing. But web2 games are much easier to play. Even if there is a chance of losing, gamblers can recover very easily.

[JustBet]

Let me start from play stations. People are still using PS2 game station just because it is cheaper to the upgraded ones. Just the web2 and web3. People are still using web2 because probably it cheaper for them to play game so if you want to beat them you have to make some market survey from users and make some research from the net. And make your games in 4D/5D standard and let not your fees should not pursue your customers.

I understand your point. Fees may be a problem for players. Being on-chain requires a fee, but we will overcome this with Account Abstraction. Web2 users can log in with their social accounts and play games without paying a fee. We are working on it.

[Renampun]

actually the concept of WEB3 is very attractive to the casino industry because it will allow the platform to run securely, transparently, anonymously, and many other advantages. but that's in theory, in practice we can't be sure that it runs 100% decentralized and transparent, like what the WEB3 concept offers, so I personally think that between Web2 and Web3 the platforms are the same in practice.

especially so far I'm using the Web2 casino platform and haven't found any problems, in fact their service is getting better by introducing some features that really help players, so there's no reason to switch to another platform, even when it offers such a Web3-like concept , because web2 also offers good games and continues to innovate to provide better services.

[Crypt0Gore]

Why should anyone care about web2 or web3 casino when one won't increase your winning chances over the other? You heard me right, web3 will matter only if gamblers are going to win more than using web2, if that's not the case then this debate is officially over.

Web3 is new and that's why almost every thing online want to join the cruise and gain from it's momentum, I get it, but this needs to be carried out professionally, what are the benefits of using web3 gambling platforms? Gasless transactions? Higher numbers of offers and bonuses? New gambling experience on the fun aspect?

Leave the web3 side of thing out of this whole gambling idea, gamblers only want opportunities, I as a person, wants fun while losing some part of my money and having few numbers of wins, I don't think anything new can change the old experience of gambling, it's always the same.