Finally! Satoshi Nak-AI-moto told me why he handed over the forum to Theymos

[tranthidung]

However, A.I unfortunately is currently trending more than bitcoin and the community indeed needs developers that thinks outside the box to get people's attention.

Each thing has specific roles for human society and some are even useless. Bitcoin does it roles and AI. does it roles so no need for Bitcoin to chase AI. and Chat GPT as well as the likes.

"Is currently trending more than Bitcoin", please let it be. AI and Bitcoin belong to different product types, ecosystems so they don't overlap each other at least in my opinion. AI can die or can grow up more but let it be.

Honestly I don't think AI will die so let's think of examples from altcoins. Many altcoins are trending, more than Bitcoin, at some time points, but in a long run, Bitcoin is stronger and has better survival. In a nutshell, Bitcoin does not need to race with altcoins or AI.

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[Accardo]

However, A.I unfortunately is currently trending more than bitcoin and the community indeed needs developers that thinks outside the box to get people's attention.

Each thing has specific roles for human society and some are even useless. Bitcoin does it roles and AI. does it roles so no need for Bitcoin to chase AI. and Chat GPT as well as the likes.

"Is currently trending more than Bitcoin", please let it be. AI and Bitcoin belong to different product types, ecosystems so they don't overlap each other at least in my opinion. AI can die or can grow up more but let it be.

Honestly I don't think AI will die so let's think of examples from altcoins. Many altcoins are trending, more than Bitcoin, at some time points, but in a long run, Bitcoin is stronger and has better survival. In a nutshell, Bitcoin does not need to race with altcoins or AI.

A.I didn't start with chatgbt literally people loved the idea of learned bot where they can interact and ask questions. The Bitcoin community integrate Bitcoin in their shops and expect other institution to accept the technology, so is the idea of A.I, if the community is not flexible enough to utilize AI or chatbot to its usage they may lose out some potential investors as well. You are correct bitcoin don't need to chase after trends, but since it's open source anybody is free to chase the trend and nothing can be done about it. You sounded like Bitcoin is centralized in some way, people can do anything and tag it bitcoin that's the notion of being decentralized. Hence, if you don't want Bitcoin to chase AI maybe some other developers want to chase the trend and gain profits through it as well. However in 2017 when bitcoin price striked at 20k for the first time, I think so, it trended more than AI is trending today, and people who didn't know about it followed it up, nothing is wrong with AI. It's only wrong if used to write in the forum which is against rules, aside that AI is a welcomed technology I mean it's being studied in schools, and I don't see bitcoin as a rigid technology, it should be free to blend with other successful technologies. Cheers.

[aysg76]

So what would I need to ask from AI bot that will give answers based on the keywords your entered from Satoshi point of view? We already know we have lot of stuff always going around considering Satoshi but do you really think this AI bot will give you real clarifications? He left the forum and bitcoin world with his choice and he knew it that bitcoin can survive without him because of decentralisation nature.

We are trying new experiments with AI bots but we need to ask ourselves whether we can rely on what they have said as in these cases but we should not have long discussions about it.You can check yourself what's the history of forum and read Satoshi's post on the forum to have an idea about his ideology.But the mystery remains still the same but do you think AI will have answers to that?

[Accardo]

So what would I need to ask from AI bot that will give answers based on the keywords your entered from Satoshi point of view? We already know we have lot of stuff always going around considering Satoshi but do you really think this AI bot will give you real clarifications? He left the forum and bitcoin world with his choice and he knew it that bitcoin can survive without him because of decentralisation nature.

We are trying new experiments with AI bots but we need to ask ourselves whether we can rely on what they have said as in these cases but we should not have long discussions about it.You can check yourself what's the history of forum and read Satoshi's post on the forum to have an idea about his ideology.But the mystery remains still the same but do you think AI will have answers to that?

AI means artificial intelligence same way an artificial hand can't be compared to a real hand is same with AI and the brain. I don't see AI as anything except as a fun thing. AI can't be compared to a new born baby's brain, as their brain is far more intelligent than AI, and I want to ask can a new born baby answer those questions? No. So with the availablity of AI it's not something to see as too big to do something quite reasonable as answering correctly those questions, but it helps point out some articles where those things were written in the forum and other sites. Instead of spending loads of time searching for those answers, that Bot can help give answers according to the sources it was trained on. If more sources gets added it'll perform better and give better answers. I personally poked around that AI and like it, don't know how others view AI but for my knowledge in AI it's not a threat in any way and should be used as a funny Virtual Assistant to carry out some tasks.

[robelneo]

We are trying new experiments with AI bots but we need to ask ourselves whether we can rely on what they have said as in these cases but we should not have long discussions about it.You can check yourself what's the history of forum and read Satoshi's post on the forum to have an idea about his ideology.But the mystery remains still the same but do you think AI will have answers to that?

So many things about Nakamoto are speculative because until now we cannot establish the identity and whereabouts of Satoshi and all the information available is being diluted by speculators, so if you're going to ask an AI, it's bound to give you inaccurate information.

So it's better when asking about Satoshi to go for a reliable source because there's a possibility that AI will extract the answer from a fake or a source that is just speculating.

[paid2]

Imagine I set aside some time to read every one of satoshi's posts, and then said: Okay guys, ask me anything, and I'll answer it just like satoshi would!

That's exactly what I thought when I discovered this site...

To be honest, if I discovered BTC today, I'd rather take the little time I need to read the BTC White Paper + some messages from satoshi on bitcointalk or from  the mailing list, than waste my time with this AI. Why put a useless intermediary between sources of information that can be found and accessed online, and yourself? Why would you want GPT analysis for this subject? We already have good resources, who would want to potentially truncate them?
 
I don't know if the purpose of this site is just temporary entertainment, done to amuse the two developers, but I don't see any real interest or value in it.
Would you like to have access to the contents of Mastering Bitcoin and The Bitcoin Standard? That's easy! Just read them, and at least you'll have easy access to the info without endless loading times, and without a potential GPT analysis error.

I have a feeling that our poor Satoshi will be the object of attention for a few more lousy projects in the future 

[yhiaali3]

I don't think the AI is able to figure out what was going on in Satoshi's head, it's just guesses made by the people who programmed the AI.

This is just a tool to satisfy the curiosity of people who ask a lot about Satoshi and wish to know what he was thinking, but in reality it is worth nothing because it is impossible for artificial intelligence or others to know what is going on in the head of any human being.

[Accardo]

I don't think the AI is able to figure out what was going on in Satoshi's head, it's just guesses made by the people who programmed the AI.

This is just a tool to satisfy the curiosity of people who ask a lot about Satoshi and wish to know what he was thinking, but in reality it is worth nothing because it is impossible for artificial intelligence or others to know what is going on in the head of any human being.

I agree with you, the chatbot is just to fulfill the fact that they is a chatbot for cryptocurrency question and answers. Most of the answers is just specifically copied from written contents by Satoshi and the concept that it begins answers, claiming it's Satoshi is the vibe behind the bot. Yes, It's difficult to get an AI that can say what's on somebody's head, especially when the person is not behind the engineering of that AI. Other than that it worth something in the sense that it helps people get answers regarding bitcoin. It covers different topics.

[NeuroticFish]

Like everyone else in the bitcoin community we all have a special question for Satoshi Nakamote, so two AI engineers created a bitcoin GPT called talk2satoshi.

Um.. no. If the community has questions for Satoshi, they are... for Satoshi, not for impersonators, no matter how good, how intelligent or how automated they are.
I see this a handy tool for all current and future Satoshi impersonators, hence I don't expect this story have a happy ending...

[AbuBhakar]

I don’t see the point of handling over the control of the forum to theymos as way to make this forum controlled by the people since it’s still centralized to theymos management. There’s no difference if Satoshi is moderating here or theymos in contrary to the AI statement about Satoshi wants people to control like Bitcoin.

He is just planning to disappear completely for Bitcoin sake that’s why he needs to pass the management of the forum since this is not his priority.

[Franctoshi]

They've tried physically by coming out to claim they are real Satoshi but couldn't succeed in their agenda, Now these AI tool could also be another means that they want to use to lure people into believing or thinking that this is true, it a clear handwork of those who have in one way or the other tried to impersonate Satoshi but failed and now coming out with this tool to feed people with lies. People can't just think again but gradually relying on AI tools to think for them.

[KingsDen]

I don’t see the point of handling over the control of the forum to theymos as way to make this forum controlled by the people since it’s still centralized to theymos management. There’s no difference if Satoshi is moderating here or theymos in contrary to the AI statement about Satoshi wants people to control like Bitcoin.

He is just planning to disappear completely for Bitcoin sake that’s why he needs to pass the management of the forum since this is not his priority.

If you read in-between lines, you will understand that the AI has no good information as regard Satoshi bequiting the forum to theymos. The AI works with information available on the internet and if you check very well, the information abou the transition of the forum from Satoshi to theymos is not easily found on the net and that is why the AI is not well informed.
The AI rather diverted to bitcoin and bitcoin network being decentralized rather than the question it was asked.

[Agbe]

Op as you said if you asked the bot one or the same question in several time the bot will also answer you with different questions. A bot is always a bot. It will never acts like a man or human. People are just abusing Al all over the world. Even when you read from the op image one can notice that the bot is not even doing well for his answers. And one thing in this not with Al, before you know they will use it to scam people on the internet.

[elevates]

Why are people still responding to this topic? Nowadays, anyone can create AI with some basic tools. There are AI systems that are specifically designed to create AI for a particular industry and can even emulate a specific character if it is well-known. These AIs start with a basic image of a famous individual and use the internet to answer questions. I am not sure why the moderators are allowing such discussions on the forum. I recently saw another topic that asks what a user should do if given the job of the forum administrator. There are much better topics for discussion on this board. Let's become more active on those thread than this one.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Don't these guys ever quit?? Can I get to believe that peeps are actually getting subjected to informations gotten from Artificial intelligence? What a time to be alive...
These are relatively programmed informations from whatever source it is... I haven't seen it as "being reliable" just yet; I don't even think AIs would make accurate, ethical research or fact on Thier bot-base discretion....I don't
The reasons behind most things happening in the crypto world would still remain unknown or, better still interchanged for another fact since "PSEUDONYMITY" isn't recycling it's ambiguity to an ANTONYM any time soon too. Listen to the ones you're told; think about the untold without wavering until the time is right, when the truth will be let loose.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[OgNasty]

The community is tired of this AI stuff, why do users keep pushing it here? Well, I don't see how helpful that AI is, and since it has different sources from which it collects information, it's easy to get wrong information from those sources, and someone can still add inaccurate information to it. But based on Bitcoiners common knowledge on the forum, who would not know that Satoshi gave out the forum to theymos just to remain anonymous, so that Bitcoin would remain decentralized. If I should ask now, is there any new information from that AI that cannot be gotten from this forum if a question is raised about it?

If you are already tired of AI then you are in for a really rough future. There will likely come a point when AI users will surpass real humans on the internet. You won’t be able to tell the difference and they will likely all be programmed with agendas to scam you or collect information from you, etc. Reputation and being able to prove who you are digitally will become more and more important… You won’t be able to keep AI quiet.

[CryptSafe]

Very funny and stupid that a person will build an AI to answer like Satoshi. Do we look like tomboys that would be cajoled to believe such cock and bull tales.
AI things does not fit into Satoshi  bitcoin affairs although it can function in another aspect of human activities but definitely not bitcoin.

At this stage, it would be nice for one to start getting acquainted with AI of a thing so as not to be left behind because there would be a time when the world would be on AI work force. So in other not to be outdated, one needs to upgrade to that point but for bitcoin related and wanting AI to answer like Satoshi, it definitely would not happen.
OP I think they should think of another Innovation to back on or make available more sustainable features for bitcoin that would be welcomed .

[Bushdark]

Very funny and stupid that a person will build an AI to answer like Satoshi. Do we look like tomboys that would be cajoled to believe such cock and bull tales.

For me I see it as fun at least we have something to play around with looking at how artificial intelligence is dominating the industry and people especially the newbies might have been looking for something cool like this that would give them some xoll and misplaced answers about who the great Satoshi Nakamoto was. This is built by human like ourselves and it is the information available that the AI would give to us that intend using it for enquiries or for the fun.

AI things does not fit into Satoshi  bitcoin affairs although it can function in another aspect of human activities but definitely not bitcoin.

very soon we are going to have AI for animals and somethings we might not have the idea about now. The artificial intelligence world is growing fast and I like the ways information is becoming easier to sought for without having to ask multiple questions on Google and not getting the actual answers that we want to see.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

If you are already tired of AI then you are in for a really rough future. There will likely come a point when AI users will surpass real humans on the internet. You won’t be able to tell the difference and they will likely all be programmed with agendas to scam you or collect information from you, etc. Reputation and being able to prove who you are digitally will become more and more important… You won’t be able to keep AI quiet.

Sir, you know on the forum, there are users who abuse the use of this AI, despite that AI might be of good importantance in some areas of our daily life activities, but at least the forum is not really is support of using AI contents on the forum and that was the reason for my first response to OP, although the forum have not yet derived a better way to fight against the use of these AIs and like you have said, AI can not be kept quiet but at least for the mean time, I think users on the forum, both newbies and old members should learn to be dependent on the best information or education they can get from other expirenced memebers here, rather than relying on the AIs information which are some are roughly collected from wrong source that the AI has be designed to collect those information from.

I mean, if I know that Satoshi is the father of Bitcoin and also that he mined the first block, then I should be able to pass that information on to another Bitcoiner who needs it and not be dependent on some AI that can give me a biased reply, while I can get a more detailed explanation from a user here who has had the experience I am looking for.

There is one big difference between humans and the so-called AI, and the difference is that, when we humans have an experience, we can explain in detail to others about our experience, but the truth now is that an AI will not give you an answer or a solution based on experience. It's likely to be from others opinions or thoughts in the past.

I can utilize AI in every other aspect, as long as it doesn't pose any harm to what I am doing, but if I have comprehensive knowledge about something, mostly relating to Bitcoin, then I will not need to use the AI, and that's also if I can easily ask a more experienced member here to put me through it.

[coin-investor]

Every input the AI will give concerning Satoshi is not factual because so many things about Satoshi are not factual, AI can only give us facts when the facts are fully established, there's a possibility that other AI will not give the same input because the source where it extracts the answer may have different input, we can use it on other subjects where facts are fully established but I doubt when it comes to Satoshi Nakamoto.