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Author Topic: Would you use a VPN on a casino, even if it is not allowed in their ToS?  (Read 1402 times)
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June 01, 2023, 03:45:26 PM
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

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June 01, 2023, 03:49:58 PM
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Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.
Best to first contact the gambling site customers care to know about the country that you are going to, to know if they will allow you to use VPN. If they said no, better not to gamble in the country until you go back to your country. I will expect the customer care to say no though.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
VPN is not allowed according to the gambling site TOS, then why using it. Do not use VPN if stated on the TOS.

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June 01, 2023, 03:51:49 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
No, of course I wouldn't take too many risks using a VPN when the ToS prohibits it. The casino can freeze my account and take every win, but there are always some users who escape monitoring as long as they don't win anything big. If you win something big then they can instantly freeze your account and your winnings because you violated their ToS. If someone took this risk, then what's the point of complaining, it was a intentional violation.

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June 01, 2023, 04:45:41 PM
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
i will not make random moves man.  the rules that a gambling site makes on their TOS are things that all users cannot violate, especially using a VPN when opening their gambling site, but some gambling sites provide relief by providing customer service that you can contact at any time, you can try asking them about using a VPN and provide honest reasons about your reasons for using the VPN (because using a VPN is synonymous with money laundering and multiple accounts) and it would be better to record all conversations that occur so that you can make it as evidence if your account is locked due to using a VPN.

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June 01, 2023, 04:52:17 PM
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Based on my personal experience,  VPN usage mostly effect unverified accounts, so assuming I am travelling to a country where stake is a blocked and I know stake has a free hand for VPN usage, so what I will do is to first get my account verified in my country since all my documents such as IDs are all issued here in my country, then travel and use VPN to play on stake pending till my return into the country.
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June 01, 2023, 05:38:25 PM
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The fact that a casino frowns at VPN doesn't stop people from using VPN to access the casino. However, the risk is high and shouldn't be considerable if a person has lots of funds on that casino, because when discovered could lose out their funds. Nothing can be done about it, it's a rule. Hence, in a new country, a player can decide to fund another casino compatible with the new location and enjoy their games instead of risking it all. Whenever, you travel back, the other casino can be of use again without any red flag or issues.

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June 01, 2023, 06:09:53 PM
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Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.
Depending on the duration of my trip when I travel, I can decide to stay away from gambling if it is a short trip and I do not want to break any terms and conditions that will put in danger the money in my gambling account.

 If it is a long trip that I know will take a long time for me to return, I will make plans to find out a casino that works locally, if not a casino that has no issues with use of VPN.

 Since I know exactly what I am searching for, it will be easier to find.

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June 01, 2023, 06:18:43 PM
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In my opinion, if it is described in the ToS, it is not worth using the VPN.
If you have a problem and you have a balance in the casino, it can be very difficult to get your money back, and besides that, the casino will have to check the situation to see if there is something wrong or not with your account.
You will know that you only used a VPN, but the casino don't know that, it can raise a flag in your account and they don't know if you're an honest user or someone trying to abuse the system

I don't know how often you travel to this country that is illegal, but if you bet on sports for example, you can advance your bets
One suggestion is to contact the chat of the casino you use and explain the issue, ask if there is any way to continue betting. But probably the answer will be negative, since in the country you visit, betting is illegal
Again, using a VPN can raise a flag in your account and you may even be able to gamble normally, but you have chances to have your account investigated after some time.

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June 01, 2023, 06:25:35 PM
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I don't think I would do it if it was basically against the rules of the casino. There are some popular casinos on the forum that actually require me to use TOR or VPN to access them, but that's a risky move for me. So in the end I wouldn't use a VPN or TOR to gamble even if the casino didn't notice that in the first place. There is no guarantee that it will be safe to withdraw large amounts of funds when you use a VPN to gamble.

It's better to avoid anything risky than us trying to explore the weaknesses and ignorance of the casino to our suspicious activities, it's much better because we need pleasure not solely for money.

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June 01, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
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If it weren't allowed by the ToS on the site, I wouldn't have tried a VPN because they could have easily blocked my account and taken my balance. But if the casinos allow it, I'll probably still use a VPN if I'm out of town so I can still gamble in my spare time. But we know the casino can find out easily and will see we are trying to use a VPN. Maybe it would be better if the casino could warn beforehand and not immediately close or block user accounts using a VPN.

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June 01, 2023, 06:31:27 PM
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Nope. If it's on the ToS that it's not allowed, I will not take a risk and gamble using a VPN. If you somehow got an itch to do gamble on your travel, It would be better to just find a casino that are allows the country you are currently in on playing on their casino. It would be a waste to be block, banned or restricted by the casino you like playing when you go back to your country and of course your crypto that is confiscated by the casino. I also think that casino has the power to detect you and worst if the casino you are playing on has a certain team to find gamblers who are not abiding the casino rules.
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June 01, 2023, 06:37:49 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Best to know that for every action that is against a stated term there is a consequence. So anyone who decides to access a casino site with a VPN should be ready to face the consequence when caught. But what I think is that people who knowing flout this would not leave such a huge amount in their balance because they would not want to both lose their account and their money.

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June 01, 2023, 07:42:46 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
There are too many risks using a VPN if ToS is not allowed to be used on the site, for example the account will be blocked which will result in our balance being lost. If you already know it can't be used then why try it and of course there is no relevance to the complaint if it is a ban from the gambling site. I also don't know why so many people get away from this problem, even I myself have done it several times on gambling sites using a VPN that is not permitted by ToS.

From what I've seen, it's nothing more than winning a small bet and maybe still being lucky enough not to freeze the account. But I'm sure if you get a big win on that bet it's likely to get blocked, so before that happens you have to reconsider because who knows later we'll get a big win but the account is frozen.

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June 01, 2023, 08:17:52 PM
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I wouldn't take that risk.

Much better to have it cleared and know the boundaries being set by the casino where you're playing. I think everyone has their own answers and understand it clearly if it is with these terms of usage of VPN.

Yeah, some casinos allow it and some don't. But do you think that it's worth it to take when you've got some decent amount of balances on them while violating that TOS they set about VPN? I don't think that someone has to take that risk if it's needed.

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I think that if a casino considers the use of VPN as prohibited, it is a question of KYC and if the casino is serious it will allow you to resolve the situation with the respective documentation, but YOU should be be prepared to deliver even "THE SOUL".

In another scenario there are casinos that allow the use of VPN but they are clear in mentioning that they do not allow it to bypass the prohibitions of some games or providers.

"I'm 100% sure you know that, it's for context in the idea."

They are different cases to analize, then, if you logged in from a prohibited country (ToS), you are in trouble, but if you used a VPN and the country is listed among the allowed ones, in that case there is an easy solution.

That is,  although the use of VPN is not allowed, it could have been a mistake not to verify the VPN, but that does not mean that You violate their restrictive rules with a certain country that does appear in the ToS as prohibited.

I think it can be argued as a mistake when you do it once or maybe 2 times, that is, the use the VPN for a country that is restricted, hence you can "fight", but if it is prolonged, + times, you are violating their rules.

What seems absurd to me with some casinos is that they do not notify before, the notice or notification arrives is when you make or attempt the withdrawal, then the KYC karma begins, which is so cumbersome in requesting documents that it is practically a waste of time, they always ask for something additional or it doesn't pass their security standards, etc. (they know) that you end up forgetting the amount because it just isn't worth it.

If you have a solid argument and your KYC is consistent with your reasons, it is always possible to get your money. (lucky!)

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June 01, 2023, 08:35:36 PM
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
If we do speak about violating terms and conditions then it would be automatically means that you should really be that prepared on whats the imposed risks once you do take it and dealing up on something that it is really that against their TOS which no matter you do, if the platform you've been using is really able to find out that you are using VPN then surely you would really be blocked and those deposited funds or inside that account would be no more. Why would really be that proceeding on if you do know that it is really against their rules?

There's no point on playing out on a site which is really that not on what you do wanted. If you are making use of VPN then you should really be sticking into a site which do allows VPN.
You would really be having that kind of peace of mind on the time that you would really be playing on rather than on keeping yourself get scared or having that anxiety on trying out to
hide yourself on not being caught on using on VPN on a site which doesnt allow it.

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Nope. I don't understand why you would use a VPN anyway? KYC already regulates and records your place of residence so the issue of "getting tracked" is already out of the question. You can't argue "cause I wanna get rid of the cookies and trackers on my data" cause again, you willingly gave your data through KYC from way back then, and most of these sites don't issue that much cookies that it's worrisome. So I personally wouldn't risk getting banned and barred from my funds all for the language of safety. Cause if safety's the discussion then as an online gambler we have pretty much relinquished that a long time ago, right from picking which casino to play with, to allowing ourselves to be KYC'ed.

And it's not like these casinos and sportsbooks are taking advantage of us for "collecting our data" if anything they are just doing this to protect us against hackers for all I know.

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June 01, 2023, 09:16:01 PM
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It's already explicitly stated that it is not allowed. I would not dare risk it, and would just abide by the rules. Honestly, it's better for me to not play for a few days or weeks at most rather than get myself banned for the most obvious reason. It's not worth it to continue playing with a VPN even if I know the repercussions directly. There's literally no guarantee that I will win in my gambling session anyways, nor are there any incentive in me playing against the rules so why would I do it?

I'd only break that rule with VPN if I am sure that I will get something big on that day and I have the guts to never look back on the same platform that I will get banned on.
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Lately and even in the past, there have been so many scam accusations on the reputation board, mainly from gamblers from whom some casinos have ceased funds. Like the last thread I read, the user's account got frozen because of some ToS violation. So, if using a VPN is really against the policy of a casino, then I see it as a very risky thing to do when users decide to neglect the rules. Whoever takes such a risk should make the decision to accept every consequence that comes along with it.

But for me to take such a risk, either I will just be sending in a small fund to my account so that if they block it, I will not cry for my lust funds, but If make a large win, which will just make me regret my actions. If customer support can't help me, then I don't have any other option but to let go.

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June 01, 2023, 09:27:10 PM
 #20

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Lately and even in the past, there have been so many scam accusations on the reputation board, mainly from gamblers from whom some casinos have ceased funds. Like the last thread I read, the user's account got frozen because of some ToS violation. So, if using a VPN is really against the policy of a casino, then I see it as a very risky thing to do when users decide to neglect the rules. Whoever takes such a risk should make the decision to accept every consequence that comes along with it.

But for me to take such a risk, either I will just be sending in a small fund to my account so that if they block it, I will not cry for my lust funds, but If make a large win, which will just make me regret my actions. If customer support can't help me, then I don't have any other option but to let go.

If it is against their ToS, then, don't take the risk especially if you are taking care of your account not to encounter any trouble.
The terms are implemented as a common ground for both the owner and the players. So better abide these rules to avoid any issue.
I won't use VPN on this regard, because you are subjecting yourself to scrutiny and may possibly trigger for your account to be flagged down.
If you want to gamble, better use another site which allows the use of VPN, and you will not run out of those casinos which allow their players on this aspect.
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