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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Best to first contact the gambling site customers care to know about the country that you are going to, to know if they will allow you to use VPN. If they said no, better not to gamble in the country until you go back to your country. I will expect the customer care to say no though.

VPN is not allowed according to the gambling site TOS, then why using it. Do not use VPN if stated on the TOS.

No, of course I wouldn't take too many risks using a VPN when the ToS prohibits it. The casino can freeze my account and take every win, but there are always some users who escape monitoring as long as they don't win anything big. If you win something big then they can instantly freeze your account and your winnings because you violated their ToS. If someone took this risk, then what's the point of complaining, it was a intentional violation.

i will not make random moves man.  the rules that a gambling site makes on their TOS are things that all users cannot violate, especially using a VPN when opening their gambling site, but some gambling sites provide relief by providing customer service that you can contact at any time, you can try asking them about using a VPN and provide honest reasons about your reasons for using the VPN ^{(because using a VPN is synonymous with money laundering and multiple accounts)} and it would be better to record all conversations that occur so that you can make it as evidence if your account is locked due to using a VPN.

Based on my personal experience,  VPN usage mostly effect unverified accounts, so assuming I am travelling to a country where stake is a blocked and I know stake has a free hand for VPN usage, so what I will do is to first get my account verified in my country since all my documents such as IDs are all issued here in my country, then travel and use VPN to play on stake pending till my return into the country.

The fact that a casino frowns at VPN doesn't stop people from using VPN to access the casino. However, the risk is high and shouldn't be considerable if a person has lots of funds on that casino, because when discovered could lose out their funds. Nothing can be done about it, it's a rule. Hence, in a new country, a player can decide to fund another casino compatible with the new location and enjoy their games instead of risking it all. Whenever, you travel back, the other casino can be of use again without any red flag or issues.

Depending on the duration of my trip when I travel, I can decide to stay away from gambling if it is a short trip and I do not want to break any terms and conditions that will put in danger the money in my gambling account.

 If it is a long trip that I know will take a long time for me to return, I will make plans to find out a casino that works locally, if not a casino that has no issues with use of VPN.

 Since I know exactly what I am searching for, it will be easier to find.

In my opinion, if it is described in the ToS, it is not worth using the VPN.
If you have a problem and you have a balance in the casino, it can be very difficult to get your money back, and besides that, the casino will have to check the situation to see if there is something wrong or not with your account.
You will know that you only used a VPN, but the casino don't know that, it can raise a flag in your account and they don't know if you're an honest user or someone trying to abuse the system

I don't know how often you travel to this country that is illegal, but if you bet on sports for example, you can advance your bets
One suggestion is to contact the chat of the casino you use and explain the issue, ask if there is any way to continue betting. But probably the answer will be negative, since in the country you visit, betting is illegal
Again, using a VPN can raise a flag in your account and you may even be able to gamble normally, but you have chances to have your account investigated after some time.

I don't think I would do it if it was basically against the rules of the casino. There are some popular casinos on the forum that actually require me to use TOR or VPN to access them, but that's a risky move for me. So in the end I wouldn't use a VPN or TOR to gamble even if the casino didn't notice that in the first place. There is no guarantee that it will be safe to withdraw large amounts of funds when you use a VPN to gamble.

It's better to avoid anything risky than us trying to explore the weaknesses and ignorance of the casino to our suspicious activities, it's much better because we need pleasure not solely for money.

If it weren't allowed by the ToS on the site, I wouldn't have tried a VPN because they could have easily blocked my account and taken my balance. But if the casinos allow it, I'll probably still use a VPN if I'm out of town so I can still gamble in my spare time. But we know the casino can find out easily and will see we are trying to use a VPN. Maybe it would be better if the casino could warn beforehand and not immediately close or block user accounts using a VPN.

Nope. If it's on the ToS that it's not allowed, I will not take a risk and gamble using a VPN. If you somehow got an itch to do gamble on your travel, It would be better to just find a casino that are allows the country you are currently in on playing on their casino. It would be a waste to be block, banned or restricted by the casino you like playing when you go back to your country and of course your crypto that is confiscated by the casino. I also think that casino has the power to detect you and worst if the casino you are playing on has a certain team to find gamblers who are not abiding the casino rules.

Best to know that for every action that is against a stated term there is a consequence. So anyone who decides to access a casino site with a VPN should be ready to face the consequence when caught. But what I think is that people who knowing flout this would not leave such a huge amount in their balance because they would not want to both lose their account and their money.

There are too many risks using a VPN if ToS is not allowed to be used on the site, for example the account will be blocked which will result in our balance being lost. If you already know it can't be used then why try it and of course there is no relevance to the complaint if it is a ban from the gambling site. I also don't know why so many people get away from this problem, even I myself have done it several times on gambling sites using a VPN that is not permitted by ToS.

From what I've seen, it's nothing more than winning a small bet and maybe still being lucky enough not to freeze the account. But I'm sure if you get a big win on that bet it's likely to get blocked, so before that happens you have to reconsider because who knows later we'll get a big win but the account is frozen.

I wouldn't take that risk.

Much better to have it cleared and know the boundaries being set by the casino where you're playing. I think everyone has their own answers and understand it clearly if it is with these terms of usage of VPN.

Yeah, some casinos allow it and some don't. But do you think that it's worth it to take when you've got some decent amount of balances on them while violating that TOS they set about VPN? I don't think that someone has to take that risk if it's needed.

I think that if a casino considers the use of VPN as prohibited, it is a question of KYC and if the casino is serious it will allow you to resolve the situation with the respective documentation, but YOU should be be prepared to deliver even "THE SOUL".

In another scenario there are casinos that allow the use of VPN but they are clear in mentioning that they do not allow it to bypass the prohibitions of some games or providers.

"I'm 100% sure you know that, it's for context in the idea."

They are different cases to analize, then, if you logged in from a prohibited country (ToS), you are in trouble, but if you used a VPN and the country is listed among the allowed ones, in that case there is an easy solution.

That is,  although the use of VPN is not allowed, it could have been a mistake not to verify the VPN, but that does not mean that You violate their restrictive rules with a certain country that does appear in the ToS as prohibited.

I think it can be argued as a mistake when you do it once or maybe 2 times, that is, the use the VPN for a country that is restricted, hence you can "fight", but if it is prolonged, + times, you are violating their rules.

What seems absurd to me with some casinos is that they do not notify before, the notice or notification arrives is when you make or attempt the withdrawal, then the KYC karma begins, which is so cumbersome in requesting documents that it is practically a waste of time, they always ask for something additional or it doesn't pass their security standards, etc. (they know) that you end up forgetting the amount because it just isn't worth it.

If you have a solid argument and your KYC is consistent with your reasons, it is always possible to get your money. (lucky!)

If we do speak about violating terms and conditions then it would be automatically means that you should really be that prepared on whats the imposed risks once you do take it and dealing up on something that it is really that against their TOS which no matter you do, if the platform you've been using is really able to find out that you are using VPN then surely you would really be blocked and those deposited funds or inside that account would be no more. Why would really be that proceeding on if you do know that it is really against their rules?

There's no point on playing out on a site which is really that not on what you do wanted. If you are making use of VPN then you should really be sticking into a site which do allows VPN.
You would really be having that kind of peace of mind on the time that you would really be playing on rather than on keeping yourself get scared or having that anxiety on trying out to
hide yourself on not being caught on using on VPN on a site which doesnt allow it.

Nope. I don't understand why you would use a VPN anyway? KYC already regulates and records your place of residence so the issue of "getting tracked" is already out of the question. You can't argue "cause I wanna get rid of the cookies and trackers on my data" cause again, you willingly gave your data through KYC from way back then, and most of these sites don't issue that much cookies that it's worrisome. So I personally wouldn't risk getting banned and barred from my funds all for the language of safety. Cause if safety's the discussion then as an online gambler we have pretty much relinquished that a long time ago, right from picking which casino to play with, to allowing ourselves to be KYC'ed.

And it's not like these casinos and sportsbooks are taking advantage of us for "collecting our data" if anything they are just doing this to protect us against hackers for all I know.

It's already explicitly stated that it is not allowed. I would not dare risk it, and would just abide by the rules. Honestly, it's better for me to not play for a few days or weeks at most rather than get myself banned for the most obvious reason. It's not worth it to continue playing with a VPN even if I know the repercussions directly. There's literally no guarantee that I will win in my gambling session anyways, nor are there any incentive in me playing against the rules so why would I do it?

I'd only break that rule with VPN if I am sure that I will get something big on that day and I have the guts to never look back on the same platform that I will get banned on.

Lately and even in the past, there have been so many scam accusations on the reputation board, mainly from gamblers from whom some casinos have ceased funds. Like the last thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454460.msg62324285#msg62324285) I read, the user's account got frozen because of some ToS violation. So, if using a VPN is really against the policy of a casino, then I see it as a very risky thing to do when users decide to neglect the rules. Whoever takes such a risk should make the decision to accept every consequence that comes along with it.

But for me to take such a risk, either I will just be sending in a small fund to my account so that if they block it, I will not cry for my lust funds, but If make a large win, which will just make me regret my actions. If customer support can't help me, then I don't have any other option but to let go.

If it is against their ToS, then, don't take the risk especially if you are taking care of your account not to encounter any trouble.
The terms are implemented as a common ground for both the owner and the players. So better abide these rules to avoid any issue.
I won't use VPN on this regard, because you are subjecting yourself to scrutiny and may possibly trigger for your account to be flagged down.
If you want to gamble, better use another site which allows the use of VPN, and you will not run out of those casinos which allow their players on this aspect.

Is there any recent case of an account being blocked due to the gambler use of VPN?

If a gambler fails to read the ToS or follows the instructions that were written down by the casino then he/seh should be ready to face the consequences that follows but most times when such a user comes to the forum to complain or open a scam accusation thread it is lways the casino that is at fault even when for instance they use VPN when the use of VPNs are prohibited by the casino.

I know most people that falls under this catergory would claim that they had to use it due to the fact that their counttry is not supported by the casino which is still not reasonable enough, IMO. If the casino does not support your country then look for the one that does, you shouldn't for any reason risk your hard earned money.

I guess you can't do anything about it if they take your balance because you know and they know that you have used a VPN and that you have violated their ToS. So the best thing thing to do when you travel to a country wherein gambling is illegal is just to stop your gambling habits for sometime because you know what the consequences will be if you insist on playing on your favorite casinos but then again you try to circumvent everything with a used of VPN.

And for sure we have seen countless horror stories here in the community, wherein a certain player with thousands of dollars in their account cannot withdraw their winnings because as much as they know that using VPN is illegal, they still proceed and now the unthinkable happens to them. So better be safe that sorry.

^In the first place at least you know the possible outcomes and probably some casinos may tolerate VPN usage, but most explicitly state in their Terms of Service (ToS) that it is not allowed. If you choose to use a VPN against their ToS and they discover it, at least you are already aware of it already. But I think the best thing that you can do is to consult their team while you are in a place that is against their jurisdiction, if they don't allow it, it should be better to follow them than to hold and lose your account.

This is the problem with some gamblers, they already knew that using VPN is prohibited and when they caught they will start to rant online and spread that the site is a scam and freeze their balance. Well, what you can expect for a more greedy gambler? I personally don’t want to experience a stress like this so if its not allowed then I will not do it at all, there’s a lot of alternative site choose the best site where you can play without violating their ToS.

This is the usual scenario, the site will never tolerate that and many are being caught already.
Most of the site didn’t allow VPN as it trigger the alarm of a possible fraud money, so if you get caught don’t expect for your funds to be recover even if you provided necessary documents because its their rules and once you violate it you’ll face your consequences. I will not try this as well, gambling is fun and you can enjoy it more if you follow their terms.

You already answered your own question in a way. If you are worried that using a VPN will cause your account to be blocked, it is better not to use one in the first place. Why risk it if it's against their Terms of Service?

And if it does come to that point, I don't see many options available to you. Perhaps you could try proving that you are not from a banned country and that you used a VPN for legitimate reasons, but ultimately, you would be at their mercy since you violated their terms of service.

A conflict would arise so I won't be planning to do so. Tos seems to be a noisy topic recently and that probably players being worried that they might lose their funds if they won't follow each and every statement in ToS. But going bavk with VPN, even if it is not included to the platform's rules, I'd still avoid using such tweak simply because I don't want to add more risk to my gambling activity. There are times VPNs are unstable and since there are gambling sites in my country which is accessible, why would I even go for a higher risk? Even if there's an exclusive bonus or promotion, I think it won't be worth the risk especially if you aren't that knowledgeable of how VPN works.

It will just give the casino a reason to confiscate the funds they have and then these gamblers have the gut to complain scam when they know they have violated TOS.

It may be a good reason to try web3 casinos when you are in a country that made gambling illegal. Taking the risk out completely if you don't want the casino to look into your account.

With the illustration  you gave which is simply because you traveled and your location changed was the only  reason that prompted  your use of the VPN which I don't consider a big deal as long as the casino doesn't have an issue with it.
But in cases where the use of vpn is strictly  prohibited  by the casino,  I don't think i will easily  dare to use the VPN  especially  if I'm not staying out for so long.

The little I know of VPN  and casino  is that gamblers are prohibited  from using VPN  and the reasons is to help fight against money laundering  through their platforms  and anyone using  vpn should be aware of its consequences.

even if the casino allows using a VPN or doesn't allow it, I still won't use a VPN just to be able to access certain gambling sites which in the end will only create problems or too high a risk. because if the ToS prohibits using a VPN but still does it and immediately gets a big win and wants to withdraw it but the team checks first and finds out that the user is using a VPN and confiscates the winnings, we will definitely be disappointed.

I'd rather avoid things that are prohibited in ToS than feel sorry for myself.

When you are prohibited from doing something by the government, I think it should remain like that. Doing the opposite will only land you in trouble because if you are found guilty of such crime, you will be fine or jailed if the need be. You will not only lose your reputation, you might also lose all the money you have made from the gambling all been forfeit for the government pocket.

You should never use a VPN to access gambling platform, you made it clear that the ToS made it clear that it was bad thing to do, doing so will have you lose your account at long last and you will also lose the money in it; two things are involve with this, you will either lose to your government or the gambling platform.

A common sense to be done on which going opposite on whats been mandated or had been ruled out is never been that ideal for you to go along with it. We cant really able to afford out on putting
ourselves in harm specially if we are really that going against the government or on whatever platform that we are dealing with. Once a violation it would really be a violation and we do have terms
which needs to be followed and really trying out to avoid on committing errors and mistakes.

If VPN isnt allowed then its better not to risks on playing because we know on what are the possible consequences. We could really still having some other options on which we would be able
to play gambling without having to make use of VPN and its really that something you should do rather than on the opposite but if you are a type which is really that hard headed
then you could always be having the option on what you should really do.

They are likely going to take your balance and block your account for violation there is no exception and you cannot blame them because once you hit agreed and sign up you are obliged to follow the rules and requirements of the casino if you are intentionally going to violate or you there are instances that the terms will violate by your actions then ask their support so you will be guided, if you have doubt send a ticket to the support, so your account will still be in good standing.
I know there are exceptions to everything and casino have the flexibility on how they can implement their rules.

I would not.
Breaking the ToS of any casino or service on the internet is simply a way to risk ones account and whatever amount of funds one has got deposited on it.

In my personal opinion, if someone cannot access a reliable casino from.their country, they must use a casino which allows VPNexplicitly and be up to date to their terms in case they decide to change the policies on the use of VPN.

In the worst case scenario, I suppose one can get and walk to the closest gambling house.  ???

That's right, the best thing to do is to gamble on casinos that allow the use of VPN, because normally there are some countries you would travel to where gambling is not allowed, just as the OP stated in his example, but if one needs to gamble, the best choice is to go by your idea instead of risking their main gambling account. Unless the account is not important to them because they can easily create another account.

It's clear as the sky, "not allowed" by the Terms of Service of the site, then why to insist on keeps on doing it?

What if they block an account and take our balance? Again, it's clear as the sky, we are the ones who should be blamed for breaking that simple Term. How come can we even defend our side if we really did that mistake on our part?

Aside from that, it's an intentional action by us. It's not an accident. There's no way we can save our ass from them if we break the ToS.

This is defiantly something I'm not looking to do. Violating a known policy of any casino or sportsbook while I gamble on there site. Even when the case is of an unknown policy violation, its still hideously treated not to mention when it is known to you. There isn't no ignorance about an agreed to policy.
Knowing that it is prohibited and still going ahead to violate it is like telling the casino that your not interested in the wins in the event that you do win and they could as well block your account when that happens.
When a criteria requires you to use VPN, just search out for a casino out there that offers what is sort for and be at peace while gambling.

Always read the terms and conditions of any casino or online sportbooks before making use of them. If the terms rejects the use of VPN to access their platforms then don't violate their rules and expect them to pay you when you win big gambling.

We have many casinos to use in betting or sportsbooks to use in booking your sport games therefore you don't have to default. Make use of the better alternative and make sure you obey their rules as well. Make sure you're not guilty so don't get denied your winnings.

Gambling is banned in some countries and when the authorities find out a casino or sportsbooks were allowing people from those country that don't support gambling are using VPN to access their platforms, it becomes an issue and might make the casino to close.

Like w know that many regions are restricted from playing bets especially on some gambling platforms so the only way they can explore and get what they want us to use VPN and make bet. This is a risky adventure and if found m, the person can lose the account and will not able to withdraw the funds inside. There are different VPN app but in this case, we need to use VPN that are more safer and will not make us to get caught by the casino we are using. It is also good for us to always remove our funds from the casino whenever we make winnings.

If it's allowed, then used it.

If it's not allowed, then why use it?

Why consider doing the thing that is prohibited by the Terms and Services of the site? If we violated those, the site has a valid reason to block our account. If we are traveling to a country where online gambling is illegal, why even consider gambling in that place and we really have even that time for that as we have a reason obviously why we travel to that country?

Not just we are risking our account on that said gambling platform but what if there's a way to track users' activity online in that country where online gambling is illegal? We are violation not just the site's Terms and Conditions but also breaking the country's law about online gambling.

As everything is clearly mentioned in their ToS, violating the same gonna be problematic someday. Maybe for the moment we doesn't get about it. We itself know that we have violated the ToS using VPN. In such situation how can we request help on the blocking of our account.

It is a must for everyone to read the ToS, and I'm sure no one does it. Simply everyone go on the flow clicking agree. Understanding and not doing it seems to be fair, so that doesn't get into unwanted issues and enjoy gambling.

if the player wants a headache, then use VPN even if they state it clearly on their ToS about not using it. just follow their terms or suffer their consequences, plain and simple.
some players are hardheaded and when it is time to collect their funds, and the site got a hold of it, they will accuse the site of being a scam. sometimes, i don't understand people with such kind of mentality.

Whatever will make you violate the terms of service of any casino should be avoided. We all know that VPN helps to improve privacy but ToS is an agreement between you and the casino, violating it may attract severe consequences. Most of these casinos are mandated by regulators to prohibit the use of VPNs because they want to check fraud and money laundering within their territory. Your funds can be frozen or your account closed if they suspect that you are using VPN. Even if you report to relevant authorities about your problem they will do nothing about it because you have violated the terms of service. Litigation against the casino will also be fruitless. The best advice is that if you are not comfortable with casinos that don't permit the use of VPNs, you can search for others that accept it and carry out your gambling there. There are many trusted crypto casinos that you can use that don't prohibit the use of a VPN.

Uhm no? Why would I force myself to play when there's other possible options I can play on? If there wasn't, well as much as I say gambling is for enjoyment it does involve money so nah, I'm fine with not playing. If it were for free though, like what I do to access some specific beta test of some games, then hell yea I'd do it.

Imo it isn't really controversial, it's just kind ass how some casinos change their ToS to suddenly rejecting VPN, or somehow flagging you for multi accounting, which can happen due to how VPN works afaik when in the first place THEY should know how VPN works. Well that is if VPN is allowed in the first place. If it wasn't, then yea I really don't think I would or even risk it.

I've done it before, but I wouldn't do it again when my account is on the line. If it's blocked on my end, then i'll switch to another casino because I have no problem using a different casino when I have accounts in other casinos. If I somehow break the rules by using VPN the only amount that casinos confiscate is usually the winnings while the deposited amount will be returned or at least the account will be allowed to withdraw the remaining amount.

Probably not if against the TOS. I'd just wait to be back home where it's legal than risking the balance in my account. I am curious though for those who will change their permanent address to another country where it's not allowed. They would probably need to tell customer support for special treatment because of his sudden case as long as there is proof of the relocation or the other option is to withdraw all the amount from the old gambling site and look for something new that is allowed in the new place that they will live in.
Yeah, I'd pick those options that risk the money being locked and cannot get it back again. We have a lot of online gambling sites now so I think there will always be that one site that is not restricted to gambling in one country. That will be better than being inclined with a VPN.

Straight up, no chaser: Playing fast and loose with a VPN is like juggling with dynamite, even if the suits seem to be turning a Nelson's eye. ToS aren't just corporate jargon, they're a safety net for both the corporation and us, the users. Brush them off, and you could land yourself in a whole heap of trouble.

Suppose you're heading to a spot on the globe where online gambling is a no-fly zone, your VPN might spring the lock, but remember, it's pretty much like crashing a party - yeah, you might dance to the tunes, but there's always a chance you could get found out. If the big cheeses catch you in the act, you're toast!

What goes down if they slam the brakes on your account and commandeer your bankroll? Well, you're practically stranded. You've already disregarded their ToS, so it's their ballgame, their rules. Be smart, stick to the straight and narrow, and keep your winnings under wraps.

I think if they are not allowing you to use VPN so you should avoid to use VPN because if you will not follow their terms and conditions so they can ban your account or they will not allow you to use their services. So it will better you should not use the VPN. And if you want to use VPN so you can use the VPN at your own risk. And I will not use VPN if it is mentioned in terms and conditions.

I will also alarm it to everyone involved notnto try thebuse of VPN onna casino of their platform kicked against such, it's one of the means people can adopt to attack them by manipulating the IP address and other shady acts using technology development softwares, the casinos also have a security network that deals with this kind of attempts to their website and once they discover the use of such, they mark your account and restrict some functions, these are part of the reasons you see many abusers reporting casinos on scam accusation board after they were the ones at fault.

I definitely do not prefer to use a VPN if the country I am in has blocked access to such a website. The reason for this is both not having a problem with the legal process that may occur and the possibility of my account being blocked on the pretext of an access ban in my location. In addition, in the case of using free VPN services unfortunately different problems may arise regarding the IP address selected from the IP pool. For this reason, I am generally against the use of VPN. Regarding access to gambling services for the reasons I stated at the beginning of my message it is among my preferences not to use VPN.
I also think that if the account is blocked as a result of using VPN, there is no refund in any way. In such a case both legal problems may occur and the money transferred here can be blocked without being used in any way.

Well, I posted this based on a some people trying to use excuses to get out of account bans for using VPNs... knowing that it was illegal in their country and also knowing that it was against the ToS of the site.

Based on the replies to this thread, most people will not risk losing their account balance or their whole account for breaking the rules that are stated in the ToS.

No. First, the use of online casino isn't illegal here in my country so I don't need to use VPN just to play. But if I'm in a situation you mentioned where I travel in a country that doesn't allow online gambling, then I won't gamble for the mean time while I'm in that country. I would be only there in that country for a short period of time so I can wait till I can go back home. Also my biggest worry is, it would be hard as a foreigner or someone in a different country to disobey their law just for your own entertainment when it can wait. I don't wanna risk my safety getting arrested just to gamble online. Getting your account blocked or losing your balance is probably bearable.

It may be different for other people, especially if they are brave enough to violate the site's tos and the law.

You will not have a problem if you told the representative you would travel to a country where it's illegal, you just need to submit your KYC and the representative will know you're not lying. This is why you need to communicate with the representative first before you taking an action that would make you in trouble.

As for me I'm not using a VPN because I never travel on a country where it's illegal.

I think there’s a confusion on this topic about the restriction of VPN on casino. Casino usually don’t allowed the use of VPN if it’s being use as way to bypass the country restrictions. On this particular case which the player originally live on country that online gambling is legal, I think the use of VPN is fair since he is not a resident of that particular country. He can always do a KYC with his ID that addressed on his original country also he can use an IP of his original country to play like there’s nothing change on the IP history of his account.

I sometimes claim free spin from slot provider that restricted my country and I support allows this since I’m just using VPN temporarily to claim the rewards. This means sometimes casino overlook the restrictions if the player notify the casino about the specific situation he was on.

The only risk is when a casino does not allow it but you should be careful cause casinos terms can change from allowing the use of VPN to prohibiting their users from using it

All concerns about the use of VPN when traveling should be on record with support if you failed to do this, you have no defense to present when they disable your account.


Definitely not, I have seen a huge amount of money coming from players and they cannot withdraw it because of a violation of the use of a VPN, if they do not allow it, refrain from using a VPN, and control yourself so you can protect your account.

I wouldn't, because I care for my account and the money I have deposited there. It would be a dumb idea to use VPN knowing it's against the rules of the platform, since it will end in account freezed and funds confiscated without any chances of recovering it, since it was stated on their terms and I, as an user, agreed with them when signing up on the website.

When travelling to a country where your favorite platform isn't allowed, you should go for an alternative one, or wait until coming back home to play again there. And in case you live in a country where you can't access a casino you think it's amazing, I fear there is no other alternative, besides finding something else which is allows your region to join in. With so many virtual casinos nowadays, I think it's not a big issue...

If ToS is clearly not allowed, then it's better to comply with choosing another casino that allows VPN use because now there are many online casinos to choose from, just be careful enough not to choose a bad casino, some casinos still allow its use, or look for an alternative casino that has a mirror site so I don't need a VPN at all to access it.
Once I experienced something unpleasant due to using a VPN, the casino asked me to do KYC to prove there was no multi-account and was lucky to get through it because the money held up was a value that I couldn't afford to lose so I had no other choice but to do what the casino ordered.

I think most of the comment here is from user that online gambling is allowed. They don’t feel this kind of restriction that’s why it’s easy for them to give an opinion like that since it’s just hypothetical.

But like gambling experience which everything is different on actual. I get the point why people on restricted country still risking playing using VPN since they doesn’t have a choice to play aside from breaking their rules. Like using an illegal drugs, People will always find a way to use a service that is not allowed on their country especially if it’s a great source of entertainment.

I always wanted to be on the safe side.  I'd rather control myself from using VPN if ever I went to a place where restricted by the platform.  The fund and the platform is always there waiting for us to access but to be in a safer situation, keeping ourselves clean from using VPN if the casino forbids us to use VPN will save us from future problems.

If they block my account for using VPN while it is stated on their TOS that the use of VPN is forbidden, then there is nothing to do except request the casino to return my deposits if ever there is still left on my account and accept the punishment, it was my fault for using the forbidden software so there is nothing to argue about it.

However, I don't believe it will be a good idea. Some people are still utilizing VPNs to get over the limits. In the near term, utilizing a VPN might be fun, but there could be negative effects later on. It would be better to abide the rules than break it because we might be putting our accounts at risk which could also affect our funds in the future.
There are some instances wherein some casinos allow VPN usage but most of them restrict it. If a casino of my choice would not allow VPN usage, then I will just look for a reliable and reputable site where I won't be needing to use VPNs. It's better to play freely without any doubt and fear of having our accounts restricted.

Well, as far as taking your balance goes, I think they have to return to you all your deposited funds but they can take the winnings back. I am not sure about the laws regarding this situation. But they can definitely freeze your account for breaking their terms and conditions. That is for sure.

I would rather not use a VPN, if it is stated to not be allowed in their ToS. I wish to keep my winnings, of course.

Why would anyone who lives in a country in which gambling is legal wish to use a VPN in the first place? You already had to give the casino your KYC details, so they know who you are...

We don't need to use a VPN if there is a ban from the casino because that can cause our account to experience problems such as blocking or even closing the account. We will feel sorry for breaking the rules and may ask for help from the support service to unblock it.

It's better not to endanger ourselves by gambling. After all, we still have a list of other casinos we can choose and use for gambling. And I don't think these casinos are too strict in applying the rules, so we can use a VPN to play gambling.

Definitely not, breaking any of their terms will put our account and all the money in it onto complete risk so I don't dare to do it knowingly. And I advise any if you guys to have dedicated proxy by paying subscription when the casino allows the usage of VPN because using free VpN will again cause out account to be under risk since the same IP can be used by hundreds of others so it will definitely alert the security system of casino and halt all the actions then lead to investigation, verification process and so on.

No and I would not even attempt to do anything which is against the ToS of a certain casino.

Remember that ToS exists in order for the gambling casino to stipulate all the allowed and prohibited acts. It is considered as constructive notice to everyone even if you do not read the entire ToS posted on their website. The moment that you do something which is against their rules, your account which has some funds, may be taken against you without any given notice. In addition, they might also use it as a leverage in the event that you win big and they can validly refuse to cash out your winnings.

In conclusion, avoid things that is against the rules. As the saying goes, you reap what you sow- do something which is prohibited then expect the necessary consequences that follow it.

If it has been banned or not allowed I will not use the VPN or try to log in. I will just leave the online Casino and choose another casino that will allow me to play without access blocking. Using a VPN, especially a free one, of course it will be dangerous because many people will use the IP. Better to play in a fully allowed casino. it also will not give you the risk of losing money or other problems.

I would never recommend you to access the online casinos with a VPN connection. Most of the gambling websites won't allow such connections because it's against their terms and conditions. Even if they allow you to access and use their websites with the help of a VPN connection, your chances of getting banned are very high, and they might freeze your money and stop all the withdrawals. In some cases, the gambling sites might also freeze your account and you might not be able to use the site or withdraw your money.

For such users the customer support is not going to be helpful because of T&C violation. Even, if a site allows a VPN connection and has no such T&C to punish such uses who connects through a VPN, a user should still try his/her best to avoid such connection because most of the VPN connections aren't safe for such activities and you might get hacked if the client of a VPN connection is vulnerable to online remote code execution.

Most of those clients have some flaws and the hackers can penetrate the system of the users who install such clients. Sometimes some malicious VPN providers do that on purpose to take advantage of less tech savvy users. I recommend you to avoid those VPN connections at any cost for such activities.

I don't understand why someone would force their will to gamble on a platform that is strictly off limits to them. I mean a VPN is not the best option for anyone to bypass restrictions because it is one of those violations that can get you in trouble. Of course I would never do it even just to bet a small amount, the essence of the offense is a violation and casino users must comply with it.

There are many casinos that can be used without VPN as long as the country's government and the casino don't prohibit you from participating as a user. Even if this isn't about you, it's clear similar suggestions should be considered by other users.

I can understand the desire for using VPN to bypass restrictions, but I don't believe it's a good idea in the long run and using a VPN against the site's Terms of Service is a risky move. If the casino blocks your account and confiscates your balance, you have no grounds for argument. If a casino explicitly forbids VPN usage, it's generally best to respect their policies to avoid potential repercussions and it's better to focus on finding reputable platforms that provide a hassle-free gambling experience without the need for VPNs.

From time to time I use VPN in casinos even if it is forbidden by TOS, because I don't keep money in casino accounts and I realize the risks of losing winnings because of it, so if possible I withdraw funds immediately if I win. To be honest I can't even explain why I do it when there is a huge number of casinos where you can play without using VPN. Maybe it is the additional risks that allow me to tickle my nerves, or maybe it is a desire to play where it is not allowed.

That is the inner gambler in you, maybe the adrenaline rush or it's just the risk that you have to take.

But as for my case, I haven't used VPN while gambling, it's because it's legal here. However, there are platforms that bans our country, and with that, I don't want to used VPN. It's ok for me to look for other casinos that will allow me to play without having to go to a VPN.

It's better to play comfortably though, instead of thinking that the casino's might caught you using a VPN and get your account suspended with your money in it.

We definitely agree that there is no advantage to using a VPN for the long-term process. Although it seems logical to use a VPN to pass restrictions in the short-term it is actually a temporary solution for the user to pass the restrictions. As you mentioned in long-term use unfortunately there is no institution or organization that the person using the VPN can complain to because accessing this service by overcoming a serious crime barrier if any access block or restriction is imposed on the account. This actually turns into a serious disadvantage for the gambler with the use of not very reliable services.

I can't find one good reason to do it, nor i don't understand why people constantly do it. And after they get caught they will complain about why they were allowed to play and use vpn in the first place. That doesn't make any sense. They can't do anything, they don't even have legal grounds to get their money back since they breaking TOS from the start. So they knowingly risk their balance as they know it could be gone any minute.

I guess they just think they are never going to get caught because they haven't so far.

Me either but if they allow it then that's a good rule. But mostly, we want to obey what the rules are and what they're saying. We don't want to compromise our funds leaving on these casinos but if you're okay to do that, you're up to make your own choices.

And while that's true, there are still plenty of people that don't know about that fact with these free VPNs.

You know that there are people who are really that stubborn or hard headed on which they would really be doing on things which are really that prohibited on which it would really be that understandable that once you do able to commit out some violation then you are really that subject to consequence. Why people do really love on engaging into things which they do see that it is really that not allowed or prohibited?
Its really that just right that you should really be following about those terms and conditions and not really that going against it.  If you are really that serious on doing such act then you would really be facing up some possible problems if they do able to caught you in. Using up VPN is neither allowed or not on a casino due to regulation or whatsoever kind of reason which as a player or user of a certain site then you should be
wary about their do's and dont's which is mainly been that listed or written on their terms and conditions and thats why its really that important for you to read up things first.

Actually, the technical and sensitive issue here is the risks of doing online gambling in a country where it's illegal.

As OP said, he intends to use VPN, maybe not for hiding the region from the gambling site (for let's say the site allowed it) but to continue his gambling activity in a country where online gambling is illegal. Gamblers should respect the country's law about gambling and regardless if the gambling site is allowing the use of VPN, we should just obey anything in a country where we are only a visitor.

I can't even believe that some users primarily still think of the possibility of their account being frozen rather than facing the wrath of the law and being penalized in a country where online gambling is illegal. If we are to travel to those countries, we should set aside our gambling interests for the meantime.

I would not use a VPN on that case, after all while there are some casinos which are permissive with those polices, what would you do the day you get a huge win which could change your life for the better and then your win gets canceled and your account closed because long ago you used a VPN to gamble and you are suspected of having several accounts? In that case the casino will have the TOS on their side and there will be nothing you can do to reverse that decision.

I think the better option is to use the other casinos which are allowed in our region or allow the VPN. But again I am against the using of VPN because it can create problems. Because I was reading a thread in which the guy was saying some casinos change the ToS silently and don't say anything to the users. So if a casino is allowing VPN first but it can change the rules anytime so its better that we should not use VPN to safe ourself from future problem.

If VPN is allowed in the terms of a casino i do not think a reason to use VPN unless your local government do not allow gambling and you want to hide your gambling activities. Also when you connect a VPN with different countries, every time your IP (and your location changes), which may be a red flag and casino may mark you a suspicious user.

You need to be very careful in using the VPN with sites where your real money is stored, else a little mismanagement can make your account ban and deprived you of your funds.

The casino creates VPN rules for knowing the customer, avoiding cheating, and rules of the country, Maybe there should be an exception for an old player if the casino just wants to know his customer. With the situation, a player should be KYC,  and he can able to use VPN after that. But if the casino finds he was cheating, the casino should be banned him unconditionally. It's will not a problem If agree and deal with this, however, it is not easy if faced with the rules of the country. all must comply if faced with this.

No, I wouldn't. Where I live, gambling is legal and when I do, I follow the rules. If I had to travel or something and I could only use VPN and it was forbidden by the casino, then I wouldn't gamble for the duration of the trip and that's fine. That's the good thing about not being hooked and making a moderate, rational use of gambling.

I don’t know if you are going to stay long in the country you traveled to, I will have just ask you to have little patience and wait till you return back to your country, you should be able to control yourself for few weeks if you won’t stay long without gambling, because if you want to continue gambling with vpn, then you are putting your account at risk, anything can happen at any moment, so I think it’s better you are patient.

If vpn is against the gambling site TOS, then it’s better you don’t use vpn for it, you might be using vpn and they won’t notice early, but whenever the gambling site discovers that you are using vpn, then you will be losing everything in the gambling site. If you are in a country gambling is illegal and you want to gamble, make sure you use a gambling site that vpn is allow, at least you are free and you are not breaking any rules.

These type of stupid activities are only done by the gamblers who doesn’t care about his money. If you are one of the person who gambles in order to earn extra income for their family won’t do this dumb act at all. We know the value of our hard earned money, we also know that the casino is not operational in my nation, so why does I will take risk and put my money in danger. In this type of situation, I will rather search for legit alternative of the casino which actually operates in my nation. Moreover never try to break any T&C’s of any casinos, as then they may block your balance at any time.

I'd rather not take unnecessary risks. If a casino doesn't allow the use of VPN, I would rather not use VPN. But there are casinos that allow the use of VPNs. However, it probably doesn't mean that they allow players from restricted countries who are using VPN to play on their platforms. The restriction stays.

If I am playing from a country that is not blacklisted, travelled to a blacklisted country and use VPN to hide my current location to continue playing while away from home, I am violating the platform's ToS, even if the platform allows the use of it. So why should I do it? I'm risking my account and my money.

I will definitely not do it if it's now allowed by the platform, I would rather use a different platform which is allowed from where I'm at that moment only to avoid any problems because most of the times, your accounts that you've been using for a long time are very dear to you, especially if there is ranking and VIP and other stuff involved and if you lose your account, you lose all of it and everything that you've wagered so far from that account is all gone, hence, no privileges.

This is the reason why one should have accounts in at least two or three different trusted and reputable platforms, so that if you can't access one of them when you are out of country, etc. You can use the other ones in that time.

don't shout that the gambling site is a scam, cruel, blah blah blah when your account is locked and your money is frozen (because) you yourself violated the TOS set by the gambling site.

the rules that are mostly set by gambling sites are absolute imo so when we break them the potential for us to get into trouble will be very large, I definitely won't use a VPN when the gambling site I'm going to play on prohibits it (but if they provide an exception then I will continue because in my country there are many gambling sites that are banned), they will definitely think I'm trying to cheat on their gambling site.

Well, this is the kind of responses that I can agree with. The ToS contain a list of restricted countries, so even if VPNs are allowed... gambling from a restricted country are not allowed.

The other thing is this, even if the casino allow VPN use, you still have to look at the ToS of the game providers. They can deny big wins if you break any of their rules too.  ;)

If you're playing in many casinos and you have been playing for years,  you know how the terms of service work, it's your guide on all your activities in the casino you're playing, so many accusations that backfired against the players are all about violation of the terms, especially about the use of VPN

So if you want your account to have a good standing and your winning confiscated better not use VPN if they do not allow it or if yours is a special case then ask support for advice on how to proceed.

I think they often use it because they want to get the bonuses offered by casinos, so they keep trying to use a VPN. But after playing for a while, the casino will still find out about it and might give penalties to players who abuse the bonus because they are from a banned country.

It's better not to try it than later get into trouble because the risk of closing the account can happen to us. And it is true that many crypto casinos still allow their users to play gambling there without the need to use a VPN. But if you want to hide where you're from and it's not against casino rules, you can use a VPN.

If it's about silent ToS changes, we can complain to the support so they can explain everything in more detail. But it's better not to use a VPN than to have problems with our account. Especially if using a VPN is prohibited in the regulations, we don't need to try it. Using another casino is a good suggestion, especially if we still want to use a VPN to play gambling, so it won't bother us or cause problems.

Some take a risk because they think that casino will not find out that they didn't use VPN. But problems will occur especially when they win huge amount since.for sure KYC will be ask and if a casino will find out that they came from a country which is forbidden to play on their casino.
Maybe better not to use VPN and not play if we know we are restricted to play so that we can secure our money away from troubles or being confiscated by casino .

there are many popular casino options that can still be used without having to use a VPN, like one of my favorite casinos at the moment, there is a mirror site so that it can still be accessed when someone wants to open the original site but the IP is blocked.
I mean the gambling site that I currently follow has several mirror sites that make it easier for customers not to need to use a VPN to be able to access because usually when using the *****.com site it cannot be accessed but they can use the mirror site *****.ac
so gamblers don't need to use a VPN which will end up being a problem for themselves.

It's absolutely up to you to either accept their ToS or go against it. But keep in mind that if you have balance on casino and you are breaking their ToS, if you get caught, your balance will be frozen, so, your coins will be lost. By the way, you can have a look at this list of VPN providers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5372131.0) and check the ones that offer you an option to buy a dedicated IP. By acquiring dedicated IP, you'll avoid problems like being denylisted because it will only belong to you, so CAPTCHAs won't be a problem too since fresh DIPs are not blacklisted.

It is too naive for a gambler to think that the casino won't find out.  Casino platforms have logs of our access to the platform, some casinos even give notifications if our account is accessed from another IP and I think they don't only know our IP but the machine we use to access the site.


Well, those are the time when the casino has the chance to make players who breach the contract pay for their mistakes.  


Not maybe, but the certainty that it is better not to use VPN in order to avoid troubles regardless of our location since it was stated that the platform restrict the use of VPN services.

If the casino can have a mirror site, it will be an advantage for the casino because if the users cannot visit the main site because of some problem or something, they can visit the mirror site. This makes it easier for users because they can continue gambling as usual without worrying about problems on the main site. And users don't need to use a VPN just to visit the casino to avoid being investigated or blocked by casinos for using a VPN.

I used VPN bunch of times. I never had any confrontation from casinos about that. What I did was to get their permission if I can play using VPN.
I think casinos have records of our original IPs (and they can verify if that IP is from a VPN or not), if you used VPN (free) the time you created your account, there probably where the problem arrives. Also I do believe that using VPN shouldn't be much of an issue (I might be wrong here though).

That's depends on the restrictions.

There are full restriction/blacklist, certain restriction due to ISP problem (you only need to submit KYC and use VPN to bypass it, it's allowed by them) and small restriction where you can't gamble on few game or providers.

If you're just want to play safe by agreeing every rule of the casino, you're already know what's the answer before creating this thread and each user has their own choice.

This is a valid reason to use a VPN and I think the casino should exempt you from any kind of punishment.

And from personal experience,  being a verified user gives you certain perks like using a VPN for whatever reasons like crossing boarders into places where the service isn't available...but to avoid any kind of drama  best not to try what they can or can not do!!

If there's no risk involved when you use a VPN then it's fine. However, if using a VPN violates the ToS, it's better not to use it as it could potentially lead to your account being locked, and in some cases even worse consequences. If there is no information in the FAQ regarding the use of VPNs on the casino site it would be better to contact them and ask if VPN usage is allowed. This is especially important if you have no access to the website while you're in a different country! :)

They usually respond within a few days, so in my opinion this is the best thing that you could do.

If there is clear terms that VPN is prohibited by the casino, for sure I will not use VPN as it will be bad for my account.
The main problem is that there are still some casinos that has no clear terms about VPN usage or even some casinos may change their own terms anytime about VPN usage.


Depends on the case because there are few possible cases if it is related to VPN usage:
1. I'm blocked because I know that VPN is not allowed but I use VPN, in this case I will not do anything as I took the risk already by breaking the terms.
2. I'm blocked because there is a sudden change in the terms about VPN usage (from allowed changed to prohibited), in this case I'll make a complaint ofc.
3. Taken balance for both above case, if there is clear terms in their ToS page that balance will be taken for breaking terms, then I cant do thing.
4. Taken balance but there is no clear terms, I will complain.

You take a risk by violating the ToS. If you haven't broken any rule except the VPN, you will probably get lucky and be allowed to withdrawal your funds. If you broke other rules you may lose the account and your funds. We are kind of at the mercy of the websites when it comes to the Tos and KYC shit.

Casino typically don’t ban the use VPN if it’s not being use to avoid country restrictions or to have multiple account for promotion abused. Some casino mention specifically the restriction of VPN but their main goal here to discourage those players from restricted country to play in the casino. I think your account will be safe if you live on country that allowed to play in casino even you use VPN because I always use VPN when I’m gambling because I have premium subscription.


Casino already have a live support which can give an answer to your inquiry within a few minutes of waiting. I think you are using email support most of the time and don’t use the live support.

There are several reasons people use a VPN when playing at online casinos, the most common reason is because in their country most online gambling sites are blocked and they need a VPN to be able to access these gambling sites. I personally use a VPN to access gambling sites through my browser and fortunately the ToS on my gambling platform they say not prohibit their users to use VPN, only that they require KYC to do WD. It's pretty annoying, but I'm okay with that because I can get around it LOL.

Accessing gambling sites using vpn is definitely high risk for gambling there. Because if for some reason there is a problem with the account or if the fund is locked, you cannot withdraw dollars from there. and if you are using free vpn then your account may show different ip in login details due to proxy not working well which may affect your account.

Normally I don't try to access a site via vpn if that casino site is banned for my country. Because there are many casino sites in the market which are valid for my country and can be used without vpn. so why should I try to access a site via vpn? But I won't say that I have never used vpn for casino sites. But I did it very rarely to use the high bonus of some new sites. But it is better not to use sites that require vpn for regular gambling

You have to really think about the funds that will go to the casino if VPN use is not allowed. There are still many online casinos that you can choose from. Choose the best and just allow it. Some Casinos say their TOS do not allow VPNs, but actually they still accept the use of VPNs. Everything is a personal choice.




Facts about free VPNs are even quite common, if some don't know they certainly need to read a lot of Tos or the impact of using a free VPN. What is recommended is the use of a premium VPN and it requires paying a subscription fee.

Banning VPN wouldn't make any sense. Because you obviously can use it. If you provide information where you prove you are not form restricted country you'll be fine. I however don't use it in casinos as there might be an issue where o am sharing ip with someone and get banned automatically for double account. I feel like that would be too much hassle to use my time to prove that i happened to use same vpn as some other account.

If stated on the casino's ToS that the use of VPN is not allowed then I will not risk my account because it can cause future problems if caught. There are casinos not prohibiting the use of VPN, and there are games that I can't access here in our country due to the provider's restriction but I opted not to bypass it to be able to play.

It would be better to follow the rules of the casino to prevent having headaches and worries. Because if you happen to win huge, certainly there's a procedure to follow for you to withdraw your winnings. Hence, if you violate any rules stated on their ToS, it's going to be a problem and your fault for not following it.

although casinos allow the use of VPN, I personally prefer not to take this risk. In the past, maybe I often used VPN, but after seeing several problems, someone won big, then the account was blocked and the funds were confiscated on the grounds that the IP did not match the KYC data provided, so the casino detected this as scam activity.
therefore I prefer to avoid using a VPN but it all depends on each person who wants to use it. because it is true what @kamvreto said there are still many casino options that can be accessed freely without country restrictions.

This is true, this is what is happening in my country where most online casinos are blocked by ISP. Although there is other way to access these online casinos because of the block by ISP, but VPN can be said as the most effective one to bypass ISP blocks. If the casinos is not allowing players to use VPN, they should provide mirror links like what is provided by Stake. I used to use VPN in the past but it seems that these days casinos are more strict about this thing. What we need to do now is to read ToS and/or ask support about VPN, if it is not allowed so we should avoid to use VPN unless we are ready to take the worst risk.

Well there are other sites as well where those countries are not banned, so why not play there? There are lot of options around. That option might not be as better as you usually use but at least you can have the gambling experience if you are away.

Everything has its pros and cons and VPN has that too. One might use it in order to make the site accessible when he is away but lot of gamblers use it to play while in restricted zone, there are some who continuously try to abuse the Bonus that casino offers, some try to play in the casino while they are banned, even some of them are hackers too. I think nowadays the gamblers are just abusing it and casino has to defend themselves there.

In regards to your question, I personally try to play in casinos where I am allowed and luckily there are lot of reputed casinos that allow my zone so I don't have to worry about using VPN while using a casino or a sportsbook platform. About the "block & confiscate", I agree with blocking since its the service they are providing and they can do anything with the account but I don't like that idea of confiscating at all. Any casino confiscating deposit (not profit) is just scamming their users in the name of TOS (avoid such casinos).

If VPN usage is prohibited and blocked by the country, the first alternative is to seek other online gambling platforms that have regulations suitable for my current situation. Never take excessive risks in gambling; you have already risked your money to play, so why would you want to risk your gambling winnings again? That would be absurd.

In some cases, I prefer using a self-deployed VPS with a Windows operating system and accessing it via Remote Desktop. This method is indeed risky, but I keep my money safe by having an extra wallet to store only a small amount of BTC. Using Remote Desktop is not recommended, and I only use it on the gambling platform I prefer. Of course, this is not something to be emulated.

I have never exposed my primary wallet for gambling purposes, as I prioritize keeping my main funds secure.

I don't see any useful points of using VPN because of you're doing it for privacy then it's a wasted as you'll still be required to submit your KYC before you can withdraw large amount or any amount depending on the casino you're gambling on.

Also to avoid unnecessary situation that'll require you to prove you're not from a restricted country or have double account on the casino. Many people have lost their money because they can't prove they got the wins legitimately. VPN are becoming less useful.

Unless you'll be willing to take the risk or have verified that the casino isn't against the use of VPN and KYC aren't mandatory for all withdrawal then you can use it. It protects your identity in this instance but don't use it when you know you're from a restricted country.

Since the usage of VPN is allowed in the gambling site you are using then there is no issue there, but assuming yours falls under those that don't allow the use of VPN would you still use it?

It's commone sense to always seek out what best suites you and as soon as you start forcing things that are not meant for you to start working for you then you're bound to have some repercussions, same with the casino if you start to force a casino that don't allow it's usage in your country to start working with the use of VPN then it means you're ready for the consequences that follows and one thing I have noticed is that once the casino finds out your behaviour the will wait for you to make some deposit before they block your account.

I fully agree with you, there are so many different casinos out there that we shouldn't focus only one, especially if that one casino is not allowed in our country or doesn't want to operate here. Why take the big risk of losing our account if using a VPN becomes public? As long as there are alternatives available, I would try to stay within the ToS of the casino and be legal in my own country. Even if you only gamble with small amounts and don't really worry about the consequences, there is always the chance that we manage to get a big win. Imagine you finally beat a jackpot and are unable to withdraw your money because the casino found out you are using a VPN. We shouldn’t take on such big risk already at the start of our gambling careers. Using different wallets is a good idea to add another layer of security to our coins. I like to have one mobile wallet for my online purchases and one online wallet to move money around between casinos. And any larger winnings are stored on a more secure wallet. So far I didn’t have any issues while gambling online and didn’t see the need for a VPN. The casino can also change their ToS over the time creating more uncertainity, that is why in my opinion it's better to only use a VPN if it's really necessary.

I've never heard of what you said at the end, that a casino that suspects you are going against their terms of services will wait until you make a deposit and then they will block your account, that is totally wrong if casinos really do that. If they already know that I've done a mistake and I won't be allowed to use their platform anymore, they should simply let me know and don't allow me to make any deposits.

I think some of the big and reputable casino platforms allow using VPN, and when you have an issue like you're out of the country or something similar, you should simply ask their support through email about it and if they say that you can use a VPN to access the platform, then you should face no issues.

Since there are casinos that allow the use of VPN, I wouldn't try to break their ToS because it's going to only give them ammunition for their guns. What I mean by this is, if you keep losing, they'll allow it and keep pocketing the money, but when you start winning big they'll block your account right after you request to withdraw and give VPN as the reason.

It's only going to hurt you in the long run and for a casino it's all good if you use VPN against their rules. It's free money for them, so keep doing it!

Some people other than the unique case narrated by the OP like drop and wouldn't mind if their account is suspended or ban, a loss of their funds in the casino wallet or whatever other issues that follows when they violate the rules contained in a casinos' Terms of Service (ToS). Unless a person can withstand the troubles that comes with it, there is absolutely no need to use a VPN if it is not allowed. Look for a casino that allows the use of VPN and play there.

Even though my country is not legal for gambling sites, but we can still access online casinos without using a VPN, for now I prefer to avoid online casinos that must be accessed through the VPN feature, even though it's a paid VPN, of course it's not 100% safe even though it's paid, you still have to be careful about using a VPN because the risk of privacy tracking is potentially huge.

If I personally prefer to avoid using a VPN in gambling, I know that Profiling is often abused by third parties in our activities, as well as intrusion of malware in VPN features a greater risk, not to mention data theft through phishing, not to mention the other dangers caused by using a VPN such as slow internet networks, for this reason using a VPN is not a solution for me in carrying out gambling activities, I prefer to avoid problems in the future, just because of online gambling.

Even though VPNs are widely used by those who gamble at online casinos, it's their choice, for sure I've never used them, the cost of repairing a computer is greater than a free or paid VPN.

It's just not worth it, unless you have no other way to gamble.
I'll give you an example. If I were living in a country that doesn't allow gambling at all and blocks all gambling sites, I'd have to use VPN to connect to most services. In such case I'd look for a casino that doesn't go hard on VPN users and try playing there.

I'm not in such situation so there's no need for me to do it.

Believe it or not, that may be happening even until now. It's a douche move but it's something that a casino can do if they are trying to be extra stingy about the situation. Not every casino does this, but those who do are sure to have the name of their platform plastered across the forum for doing such shitty service against the users of their platform.

If you know that there are things that you are doing that are basically against the casinos rule, better stay away from it for a while before you deposit again because you'll never know.

Of course not, why do I need to break the rule just for me to play in that casino? there is a lot of casinos everywhere in which I can play. Not following their rule will only give me problem in the future so better not to risk and try things that are not approve in ToS, and above all ToS should be read first in order for us not to abide all rules and will not cause issues in the future.

Often the terms and conditions do not specifically say anything about a VPN, but they do refer to it in indirect ways. Then it simply says that you are not allowed to play with multiple players via the same IP address. This is basically the same as using a VPN. I think there are secretly still players who use a VPN. what should you do differently if you would like to gamble in a country where it is actually not allowed? Then the choices become quite limited of course and you have to make a choice. Of course, it can also go well for a while if you start gambling with a VPN.

Usually reputed casinos won't lock your accounts and steal your balance for that, except if you are a good sport bettor or if you are "abusing" their bonuses and promotions or if they suspect you to have found a loophole in a game or some tricks to get an advantage over the house. In addition you shouldn't forget that in some countries it's not forbidden for the citizens to play at online casinos while authorities prohibit casinos to let their citizens play there. It means users won't break the laws if they manage to play at those casinos, and casinos won't break the law of those countries if they show they don't let their citizens to play normally there.

I agree if the casino identify the restriction of the use of VPN is for the people who are in the restricted area since using VPN circumvent the restriction, any one who is not on the restricted area can use VPN at their heart content but, if there is no declaration about such kind of situation ,there is a huge possibility that the casino will block the account.


The answer from email support does not take that long , I often use mail to inquire something and the answer is almost in an instant.

By the way, is a VPN always demonstrable? Would it also be possible to use a VPN without a gambling site finding out? For example, I know at Cyberghost that you can buy your own IP address, so that means that you are the only one who can use an IP address and that it has not been used by anyone else from Cyberghost's customer base. But a VPN is of course in a certain range, so it is suspicious and some sites will do anything to avoid having to pay.

Finding out the stance of the casino on the use of VPN from their ToS will help you decide whether to gamble on these casinos or not. To avoid issues in the future, you can simply make this enquiry before you make them your choice to gamble on. Before you use a casino, you should know what can cause you problems if you violate, and then avoid it. If a casino does not allow VPN, you better don't just play there if you are not comfortable with that term.

Each system always has maintenance and updates to new features, so I can't be sure gambling sites can't track VPN users even if you use a personal VPN from purchase. Your important point is that you understand the TOS of gambling sites, if the rules for prohibiting VPN users have been explained but you ignore the rules and still use VPN then you are prepared to accept the risk, the team will freeze gambling accounts for violating the TOS rules.

So before you make a mistake, you have to be careful about making that decision, many cases of violations on gambling sites have been reported and they complained because the team did not respond to their statements, the team may not tolerate any violations if you ignore the TOS rules and so be careful.

I think still goes down as how you are addicted in terms of your gambling activity, the reason why I think of it is because,

a. You know that it is against the casino's ToS, but you still decided to play? reason, you can't control yourself
b. And if ever you won big money and you think you were able to get away, but the fraud department flagged your account

Now, you complain here, saying that this and that casino scammed you, and usually this kind of players who try to circumvent and uses VPN will not tell initially that they have used it and still insists that the casinos should give them their capital + their winnings.

But if you can looked closely, it was due to their addiction that they continue to play despite the violation and they don't it that they have violated but won't admit it.

If the IP is fixed, then the papers one is supposed to provide to the casino through the KYC process may need to match those issued in the location, I think?
For example, I could be a citizen from Australia living in Australia but for some reason wanted to access to a casino in disguise of me living in Europe. If the casino staff does not allow VPN or dynamic IP addresses and grow suspect of me, then they may not only request for identity documents but also for further proof of residence or bank statements.

In the end, it is just better to stick to the rules of the casinos and save ourselves from having a bad time with out money.  ::)

Most of us do not have a fixed IP. Whenever we connect to an ISP or broadband connection we are provided with a dynamic IP however that IP does reflect our country location. The casino will detect if you are connecting from a location which is allowed by the gambling site or connected by a location prohibited by the gambling location.

Sometimes, we are living is a country where the gambling site allows their services but as soon as we connect to a VPN, our location may change and all of sudden the gambling site may think that we are connected from prohibited location and may ban our accounts. We should be careful in selecting VPN or in most case, not using VPN may be a better option.

Yup. It's pretty easy to identify where the IP location is (and VPNs usually bade your connections after all to where you want to connect from) so it's pretty easy to match. Even outside of that, comparing IPs used can be a flag as well if done so.

Even if it was Dynamic IP (which is what ISPs usually give out) it's still tied to a country. Who knows, there might also be some system that stores the og ip registration and if it was changed, compares then if country registered is different, flags the account (or maybe the IP itself).

bottomline, the player should not complain if the casino flagged his account for such reason. it was the risk he took, so should accept the consequences on this matter.
this is why if you read a thread about scam accusation, don't judge the casino outright. check the facts. and most of the time, the player has their fault. if you will comply with the terms of the site, you won't be in trouble.

In the rare event that you actually win big, then they would probably use that fact to not pay out.

Not worth it in my opinion.

If you are so sure of your VPN connection security then you can proceed but remember that some online gambling casinos, especially those that have warned users not to use VPN on their websites have their own ways of figuring out that you are using a VPN connection.

Imagine winning some money and the online gambling casino now tell you to pass their verification before they can release your money for you, things could get out of hand if you have already use VPN on the platform before so therefore, I won't advise anyone to use VPN connection on any online gambling platform most especially if they have already warned users not to use VPN connection in their ToS.

This is called breaking the rules and you have automatically given them a reason, in fact a good reason to hold your money and never release it.

I've never used a VPN unless I want to access a job site that sometimes requires a VPN to access it, besides that it's also using a free VPN so I don't think it's safe to use on a casino account, let alone one with money in it, even though there are paid VPNs as premium users but still there are casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs, so be careful with that.

Regulations at casinos are usually very strict so they can catch easily if there is cheating being done, for example taking advantage of bonuses by creating multiple accounts using a VPN, for example, sometimes that is also the reason casinos prohibit using VPNs, but you should ask casino service support if it is safe to use them. indeed you want to be an anonymous user, but if it's not allowed you shouldn't do it because by obeying the rules of course we can play safely.

That's a nice information you got there, I thought it works the other way around. There must be a purpose on why we travel to another country. Usually, it was for business purposes so I think I will just focus on it and avoid playing gambling for a while because it might only affect my performance. We know gambling, if it can't make us happy then the opposite thing is likely to be experienced most especially for the weaker persons.

Plus, there might be local casinos there that your team can hang out with after a successful business deal so why not just enjoy there? Forget about the casino which you have been loyal with for a while. They won't go anywhere.

This one too. People are overlooking the fact that there are VPNs that are prone to a lot of security attacks that can easily steal their information without them knowing. Paid VPN services that are trusted by the industry might be safer, but you'll never know when will the attacks come. Not saying that VPNs are insecure, it's just that it's another layer of you putting your trust to another service that they will not screw things up.

Then again, the decision should rest upon the ToS of the gambling platform that you will be playing on. If they allow VPN, go for it; if not, better be safe than sorry.

While using a VPN can get around geo-restrictions, doing so if it's against the site's terms of service might get complicated. Users would be helpless in the face of account suspension and funds confiscation because they are, technically speaking, at fault.

If you're wondering where casinos stand on this issue, it's true that they won't normally lock accounts without a good reason. It could raise red flags if you're an expert sports bettor or if they think you're trying to take advantage of a loophole. Nonetheless, the attention and money that players generate is what most of them care about.

However, it's important to keep in mind that using VPNs for this purpose falls into a legal limbo. Although users may not suffer legal consequences for their actions in some places, this does not make the practise any less morally ambiguous. Internet users will likely remember your every move, so proceed with caution.

I agree with you, usually, gambling sites are very strict with this rule, I also won't violate gambling sites that prohibit the use of VPNs on their sites, that's a rule they made, why should I fight?

there are many choices of gambling sites that can be used without the help of a VPN, safer and more secure to play there

therefore it would be better to stay away from using a VPN to not cause any problems and one of the denial of that problem is withdrawal. but all of that goes back to the conditions that have been set if the ToS says the use of a VPN is allowed after that the customer wins big and wants to withdraw these funds but is refused on the grounds that using a VPN is clearly unfair.
but I'm sure if the casino that gives permission to use VPN after that the customer gets a big win and wants to withdraw it, it won't be a problem.

This is true with every other way of breaking the ToS, even if you break it very slightly. Te casino will always ave a chance to use the agreements against the player in case of a very large win followed by a withdrawal and I saw it in a couple of scam accusations. There are threads where the player was at fault somehow, for instance had another inactive account on the casino. When he kept depositing money and playing the casino was ignoring him, but when he won big and tried to withdraw he was immediately hit with KYC, then asked if the other account was also his and denied payment.

Be as clean and transparent as possible guys. Don't give them a way to deny you your money.

Why should I insist using VPNs when the are not even acceptable in the first place?? It ain't a "do or die" affair that someone should be tied to one casino, is it?? I'll simply use other casinos that accept VPNs since I wouldn't wanna have my funds freezed and siezed for violation and going against Thier TS/C's..
Secondly, why would you get yourself in so much stress by travel to another country just to use a site where VPNs are illegal or legal? It seems you're just too passionate about patronizing some lame casinos anyways.. in summary, using VPNs to break the TORs when you're not allowed to is a bridge in contracts.

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That's a good point.

Basically they will probably look at any possible way of not paying you, and if you've done some things that are clearly against the ToC then there's very little chance for you to get your money out of there.

Might even be better to start fresh somewhere else.

Going against casinos terms and conditions would really be normally be that for a certain user would be experiencing those consequences on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be having that kind of acts according into those violators which is understandable but there are platforms on which they are really that taking abuse of their control or power on which they would really be using it up
on a non-fair way because they arent really that tending to pay up a certain user which is usually to those who do win up big. Im not saying that most of them would be doing this but only into
those shady ones.

We know that there are casinos which are really that a scam or shady on which they are really making up such step and actions which is something that would be putting up a huge question market on why they have done that. In overall if we do speak about violating sites terms then it would be just normal that they would really be having that kind of approach too on which a certain user would be blocked
just because they had committed out violation.It is really that a simple set up which needs to be followed if you dont like to experience some problems in the future.

Breaching the TOS is enough reason for a casino to lock our account.  Whether they confiscate the fund in that account is for the casino to decide.  For the given scenario of @OP specifically what is stated in the platform TOS, the player is already breaching the TOS the moment he uses VPN.  For me, it is enough to Ban the player's account and confiscate all his winning since the gambler is accessing the site's service illegally. Whether they confiscate the initial fund or not is depending on the casino TOS,

I personally wouldn't because it's very dangerous step to take if its violation of their rules. My assets can be completely frozen, my earnings can be cancelled and/or reversed. I could experience to be in their black list even.. Why would someone risk it I don't understand. You may dislike rules - I don't blame you most rules are terrible and enforced - but you still need to obey rules. You don't need to like them you should only care about your money deposited to that site and won through that gambling website.

I don't know how often you gamble at casinos but it's a very common practice though. Casinos usually don't care much about that because it's technically not easy to prove an user is using a VPN, and because it's a common right of people to use a VPN in almost every country. You claim casinos have the right to lock user accounts and even to confiscate money for that purpose. But are you sure Curaçaoan or Costa Rican laws are allowing them to do such a thing? Even if one user breaches a clause of some ToS, it doesn't mean his money legally not belongs to him anymore, especially his deposited funds. It could be understandable to cancel winnings when essential terms haven't been respected, but it's not honest at all to seize people funds for such a thing. Some casinos like 1xbit are red tagged for doing this kind of thing obviously, so I'm a little bit surprised some users like you are advocating these practices here.

Well, people do it for different reasons. Some popular 3rd party slot providers might block certain people from restricted countries to play their games and the gamblers wants to play those games. (So they use the VPNs to hide their country of origin, so that they can play those games)

The smaller casinos might advertise that they are "VPN Friendly" in the beginning, but as soon as they grow large enough, they suddenly come under the radar of the regulators and they remove that feature from their site.  ::)

Agreed and that kind of thing happens a lot more in new casinos.
However, actually using a VPN is also very risky if it is not allowed by the casino because if you never get a big win, maybe you can safely and easily use a VPN, but when you get a big win, the thing to fear is that the win cannot be withdrawn because they are a having problems using a VPN.
I used to use a VPN but only in casinos allowed it and after I thought it was better to change DNS than having to use a VPN.

What we don't like is that the casino can change the rules at will without giving notice to all its members so that later some gamblers are not aware of the new rules and accidentally break them. And when they find out that the rules have changed, they complain to the support service but the support service also doesn't provide any help because it's written in the rules. This is what makes many gamblers, especially crypto gamblers, disappointed with changes in regulations that were not notified to them. And those crypto gamblers eventually moved to other, more comfortable casinos.

Maybe we should announce the names of the online casino or sports gambling site that does this now. I don't know any who have done that kind of trick but it is messed up if they are suddenly changing a part of the TOS for their own benefit.
It's not like they aren't already making money from their services and being the house but they have to get greedy and lock accounts that are using VPNs. Maybe they should also be punished once proven guilty of bending the rules.

I have not experienced this yet, thankfully. All the sites that I had used and have been using have no country restrictions over us. But for those who live in certain areas where gambling is prohibited, this might be needed. I remember vloggers who use VPNs especially if they are the kind of clips that specialize in anything that has to do with the history of other countries.

I understood. But do you exactly know what is main reason for 3rd party providers to block their games? It sounds so funny you know. I guess its probably countries which has ridiculous anti-gambling laws. In such circumstances I think I could support using vpns. But as your example, I believe that its far better to pick vpn friendly gambling sites so you don't need to avoid tos of another one. I think people from gambling prohibitited areas are certainly very unlucky. Some countries are very unnecessarily harsh about it. I wish countries could all relax their laws.

I even take a look at the reason why most gamblers make use of VPN and discover that it's only for them to evade sanctions in some specific areas while using their platform, then why should one now desire to go against their wish through VPN, but thanks to more security measures in the gambling sections and some of these casinos being able to afford taking the required measures to apprehend those bridging their terms with the use of VPN and other means of cheating them on their platform, if they dictates you they will definitely ban or restrict you on your account to perform some vital or needed functions.

There are reasons why government do that and also casino disallow the usage of VPN so maybe its better to follow so that there's no conflict of both parties will happen. Also you are the one will suffer with it since this is how regulation works in certain countries.

Better not to push anything nor support third party application since this didn't result any good. Better save up yourself why its early and play only on those casino didn't restrict your country.

They do that to attract players because there are many of us who prefer non-KYC casinos. It's not easy to grow a casino, so we must not worry because we can enjoy playing on this non-KYC casino for a long time. When the time comes that they are big enough and regulators are now targeting them, that might be the time to abandon them.

There might still be gamblers who will stay because KYC is not a problem to them and then the casino also offers other great features so owners won't worry that their casino will collapse after complying to the order of the regulators. On the main topic of using a VPN, I only use it if it's allowed. If the casino or the game is unavailable in my country, I will just move on to the other one.

There might be countries who totally ban all sorts of gambling including the offline ones but for those who still allow some, it would be better if you play on the casino where it is fully legal. There is no need to use a VPN. I don't like this actually because I think it makes my existing connection slower and also my gameplay because there are now more than one app running in the background.

If VPN is not allowed by a the terms and conditions of gambling site, the more I will not use it but there might be some who continue and are lucky to not get caught. If in case it gone wrong, well I guess they will accept the consequences easily and just move on. It only becomes hard if we accidentally win a really huge amount.

I don't see why you can't hold your desire to gamble when you're traveling, traveling let you stay few days or a week in other country, it's not long. You seems not use all of your times to enjoy your travel and you don't have a good self control if you need to gamble everyday.

Since I have a good self control, I choose to not gamble and will gamble after I back or move to a country where gambling is legal.

I will also do the same thing if I can't access casino sites that are prohibited by the government of my country, I will not try to use a VPN because obviously it is very unsafe also in many cases the account is banned by the casino and can be frozen, so I it's better to play casino that I can access using my internet wifi without having to use a VPN.

I know there are other reasons people use VPNs, namely wanting to hide their real IP, but actually it's also dangerous if the casino marks them as users who violate the rules, usually there are also rules not to use VPNs, you should also read the terms and conditions of the casino before using VPN at least contact their service support.

There is one other reason why people use VPN, it is to get the access to open specific providers because the providers cant be accessed from my real IP.
Obviously, I have to make sure it is allowed or not by the casino, if it is allowed then I'll go with it but it if is not allowed then there is no other choice.
Terms of VPN usage is a bit tricky so IMO we need to be very careful before taking a decision to use it.

Right, When a person goes abroad, he must have a purpose.  Because no one goes abroad just by spending Hughes money. Some have the purpose of visiting the country and some go for business purposes, so that time is very important and valuable for everyone. So instead of wasting time by gambling at that time, the time should be put to good use. And if there is no gambling there is no need to use vpn.  Again if a site is banned in your country but you need to gamble on that site then you can use vpn but it must be premium vpn.  Otherwise, the account may be locked if there is a proxy problem. Considering all these aspects then one should decide to gamble using vpn

That's just a small example that some people are trying to convey and actually the point of focus is only on VPN use when ToS prohibits it, so what steps to take when knowing this because the consequences are dire and will result in a permanent account ban. But on the other hand there may be some gambling sites that allow VPN users and this is worth a try rather than taking the risk on a site that doesn't allow VPNs.

At present the convenience of gambling will not limit people even though they are on a trip to another country, in fact everyone can take advantage of the convenience via a smartphone in gambling. So it doesn't limit anyone from gambling or maybe the person you are referring to is indeed active in gambling, so even when they are on their way they still gamble as usual.

To understand why people play on gambling sites that forbid them to do so just remember how you drive a car. I am sure that most of us exceed the speed limit, knowing full well that you can get a fine for it. So why do we do it? - Because we like it. The same can be said about gambling in casinos, which prohibit the registration of citizens of certain countries. Each of us can do whatever we want, as long as it doesn't violate anyone's rights and freedoms.

Someone may not agree with me, but it is his personal right.

Without question, your apprehensions regarding the employment of VPNs ring true, especially when considering the possible hazards at play. Indeed, as you've highlighted, one might face complications such as decelerated net speeds or extraneous applications leeching off your computational capabilities. Nevertheless, I'd advocate that a high-level VPN service would only inflict an insignificant effect on both your Internet velocity and overall system output.

Moving to the sphere of legality and user agreements associated with virtual gambling platforms, I concur without reservation. It's utterly critical to remain in strict compliance with the stipulations imposed by these digital arenas and the relevant governmental bodies. While the rigidity of rule enforcement may fluctuate, and a select few might evade repercussions, I must stress that such a path is not wise nor recommendable.

Diving into the aspect of concealing one's actual Internet Protocol address, though a VPN does proffer a layer of anonymity, one must appreciate its double-edged nature. There's a clear and vital difference between remaining anonymous and intentionally bypassing regulations. Ergo, it is absolutely necessary to peruse the terms and conditions diligently and don't hesitate to contact customer support in case of ambiguities!

When we do trying out to compare in between free and premium VPN then we could really be able to tell about its differences on which we know that having that premium is much better but if you dont bother out
then using up those FREE would really be that enough specially when you do really like to hide up your IP address and chance up according on a certain location.The thing that i dont really like is on the time that
using up this connection is way too slow which it is understandable.I never ever experience out with that swift loadings when using up VPN which it is really that pretty common.

In the question whether you would use something that it is against a casinos terms and condition, is this something really be that needed to be answered? This one only needs up common sense for you to have
that kind of action that should be made. Why would really be doing something which its against their TOS? You would really do know that if you would be able to do so then you are really that putting yourself
at risks on getting blocked or locked up funds because you have violated something which it is really just that a common thing to happen on someone who do loves on opposing those rules.

It seems that there is no need to announce it because it will only bring debate.
I've never experienced anything like it myself but a few friends of mine have and lost some money in some of the smaller casinos.
Initially, with small wins there were no problems, but when I got a big enough win and wanted to withdraw it, the casino actually had problems using the VPN and refused the withdrawal that had been made.
This will be a lesson for us that using a VPN is actually risky and also using a small casino is a mistake for gamblers who often place large bets.

When a casino doesn't allow players from a country where you reside, it is obviously not a good option to use a VPN only to play at that casino because even if you can play using a VPN, you won't be able to make a withdrawal since if they ask for KYC, you won't be able to complete that because they won't accept documents from your country, so you will be left with no options.

A VPN should only be used in a casino if you are a regular customer but for some reason, you are not able to access the platform, maybe because of relocation or something, and even in such cases, it is still better to first ask the support before going ahead with it because if they don't allow it, they can always ban your account for doing that.

If the analogy is like that then I have to conclude that the consequences you get are in accordance with what that person did, because in general we already know the risks and impacts we will receive from blocking accounts that do not allow VPN use. But instead people ignore the restrictions given by the site and try to get around it in any way they think is possible.

Even though we can also see other sites that allow access to VPNs and in the end it's up to each individual how to use gambling sites and for me playing safe is far better than risking risk account blocking.

One simply shouldn't use a casino that they are not comfortable with, after all, you pay to use their services and if they are not what you are looking for, you can always change your choice. Trusted and reputable exchanges don't do that, if they make a change, they inform their users most of the time, and even if they miss an update, they eventually do let them know about it later on.

I personally don't prefer using new casinos because you can barely trust them in the first place, you should only use a new casino if it has already earned the trust of the community in some way, otherwise, it is simply not worth the money that you spend with them.

That is why they must be able to find a casino that can make them comfortable while playing gambling and avoid problems that can arise. This depends on their wishes because they can find casinos or exchanges from this forum where they will find some casinos or exchanges that can satisfy them. Those who use a new casino to find out the services have to really limit their money before they get the truth because it runs the risk of losing money in the new casino. After all, they already have a casino on their roster so they don't need to try their hand at gambling at the new casino.

maybe someone who wants to gamble without using a VPN but looking for a site that accepts their country without any restrictions really has to be careful and on the forum there are also lots of gambling sites that have been reviewed by several people on this forum and it's free to see which site is suitable and has good reputation.

but when you get a gambling site that can be accessed without a VPN but the site is still new, it's better to keep using a small budget so you don't get disappointed when problems get too heavy.

I really like the point of view from @madnessteat .
If car is speeding over the limit chances are he will get a fine for it and in some cases he might get away with it.
If a person is using a VPN, in most cases he will get his account frozen for it but in some cases he might get away with it.
It all depends on how lucky we are and our willingness to do it despite knowing the circumstances.

True, but the fact that winning big in the casino is already very unlikely. Adding another layer there seems too risky to me, because it would suck to win and then not being able to get the money because of the usage of a VPN.

And they would be in their right to refuse payment unfortunately.

Yes, they can search this forum and will find it by having lots of reviews from us. And as long as they can find a trusted casino and accept them without using a VPN, they can gamble in peace and have nothing to worry about.

Don't expect much from new casino sites because they must prove their good service to us. If they can provide good service and always give their best to their members, their site will get a good reputation.

Exactly and that is the point why VPNs are frowned upon using on gambling sites.
Why would anyone use a VPN on sites it is restricted on when they know that their winnings will be blocked eventually.
So this basically depends on the site if they allow using VPNs then users can use it and otherwise not.

When a gambler knowingly takes the risk and knows that his account may be blocked, then the gambler has to rely entirely on luck. Many gamblers are actually forced to use a VPN because gambling websites are illegal in their country, which leaves the gambler with no other options and starts gambling out of fear of losing their account. And then some gambling websites capitalize on this weakness of the gamblers and make various excuses to freeze the winning funds of those gamblers.

For that, if the said gambling site really prohibits the use of VPN to access their platform, we can't call it as excuse anymore as why they freeze users account. I don't know the situation of those users who reside in a country where online gambling is illegal but I can't imagine they really putting themselves at risks since it's not just the policy and terms of the gambling site they are violating but also the law of their country. They will faced charges if caught.

We need someone here on these countries where online gambling is illegal to tell us how they deal with online gambling.

I become curious.

If I'm not mistaken, I think all the big online casinos prohibit the use of VPN (correct me if I'm generalizing too much).
The big problem with the VPN is when players need to make a withdrawal, because at that moment the casino will ask you for KYC verification and among them, probably a proof of address.

My advice is not to use VPN, but this is not feasible, I would say that you should bet at this casino the minimum necessary to place some bets aimed only at fun and not profit, you must bear in mind that at any time the casino can block your funds, then the money you put there should always be considered as "lost".

Well, no casino will have the chance or will I give them the privilege of blocking my account and confiscating my funds, simply because I won't be using VPN when I clearly know it's not smiled at by the casino, I don't have too much money at the moment, so I don't see why I should indulge myself in activities that puts my account and funds on the account at risk of losing it, I would rather loose my money in gambling than have the casino confiscate it for going against their terms and conditions..

Since I started gambling online, I've never used a VPN to access any casino, even though I know some of the site allow VPN usage, I still dont use it because I understand the implications of mistakenly using it on a casino where it's not supported.

I think the main issue is that as far as I understand it, it is illegal for the casino to provide gambling services to people from certain countries.

The main way they have to detect the country where the gambler is from is basically using IP address geo check, and if they are using a VPN they could be from anywhere really.

I think the casinos will try to get better at detecting VPNs as they might be liable for this.

Yes, that's true, because of course every gambler doesn't want to have problems with withdrawals that are made, especially when it comes to a sizable amount of money.
If indeed in a casino in one country we are banned it is better to use another casino that can allow us to play there without having to use a VPN.
After all, there are tons of casino options here.

Yes, that's true, but certain requirements must also be met and of course also have the approval of the casino team so it won't cause problems.
It's just that I'm sure not all gamblers can have permission to access casinos with a VPN and only certain gamblers like truly loyal customers or customers who use large amounts at every gamble.

You've evidently taken a cautious stance. You prefer avoiding the VPN gambit altogether to circumvent any potential conflicts with the ToS. Yet, as an advocate for online privacy, I must present another side of this digital coin. Utilizing a VPN can serve as a powerful defence mechanism against cyber threats, much like deploying an antivirus program on your PC. It's like an ultimate save point in a difficult video game level, keeping your progress secure from unexpected crashes. It's vital to decipher the fine print in the ToS of each online casino platform. If the platform doesn't specifically prohibit VPN usage, then implementing it might be akin to using a hidden cheat code for extra protection. Always remember, it's better to lose a game fairly than to have your account hacked or compromised. Be safe, and happy gaming!

It is true that any gambling website can freeze their customers' funds for violating T&C using VPN. Offline gambling is also illegal in most countries where online gambling is illegal. I spent some time in a country where online gambling is illegal, and found that they are more interested in sports betting than casino gambling. Because they can do sports betting secretly among themselves, or through an agent, which does not come to the attention of the police.

Gamblers who live in the country where gambling is illegal, if they try to gamble, they have to face risks everywhere and many times they get arrested. And because of this risk of gamblers and the lack of access to gambling websites, the gambling agents in those countries earn huge amounts of money.

So you're lucky and your country doesn't have the censorship that many other countries do. I use VPN all the time and when I start gambling I just forget to turn off VPN, but not because I am involved in illegal activities or hiding from someone. It's just that a lot of resources are blocked in my country, including this forum. So I, like many other people whose rights are infringed, use workarounds to get information.

Yes, most of us are lucky, and i am sorry to hear that you need to use VPN only to access some information resources.

But you are literally involved in illegal activities when your country is sanctioned and hiding behind fake ip as you are trying to get around sanctions by pretending you are from some other country.

It's your fault as an individual that you need VPN, but trying to get past casino's legal agreements is not justified cause when your country is under sanctions. You can't really blame casinos either after they cancel your account.

If they know that the real purpose of gambling is to have fun and not need to spend big money, they probably won't have a problem using a VPN at a casino that allows VPNs. And even though they ended up being banned from using the VPN and blocking their funds there, that also didn't matter because the funds at the casino weren't big, and it was only the money they could afford.

And if the casino allows using a VPN, I suspect some gamblers still use VPN, and some don't. I'll probably use a VPN for a while, and other times, I will not use VPN. And if the casino asks me to verify, I  probably will do it too, because I think doing KYC at a trusted casino won't give me any problems, and I can still use a VPN to gamble.

Bad is to use VPN but the worst is to use VPN and at the same time trying to cheat the casino one way or the other it will lead to an immediate ban since you are already committing double offences, there is no doubt that some casinos may look away from the use of VPN even though is mentioned in their TOS that VPN usage is not allowed but then casino are looking for money after all because VPN usage has nothing to affect the casino unless for regulators who restrict the casino access in their jurisdiction.

I might use a VPN but you always need to be aware that it can cause problems or it might even be written into their terms that it is forbidden, in which case you could lose all your funds without warning if they figured you out. It's quite possible today in many situations to figure out if someone is using a VPN so it's not a particularly clever method to hide yourself from the end site. The gambling site might also have genuine reasons for not wanting your business, such as if you reside in America, because of all sorts of legal problems that might open up against them. At some point you will probably have to supply documents to verify your identity and this might burst the bubble too.

That's the main thing, some casinos don't allow people from certain jurisdictions to gamble on their platform but to bypass that, some people use VPNs which is basically not easily detectable as long as those users using VPNs are not asked to complete KYC verification because that is the only way a casino would know that the player isn't actually from where they have been playing from using a VPN to change their IP address.

A casino that accepts players from all around the world would definitely have no issues with a user using a VPN because they don't really care where the IP address is from since they accept players from all around the world, the only thing that might bother them is that a player using an IP address of a different country and using KYC documents of a different country.

exactly .maybe if the casino gives the freedom of the customer to allow the use of VPN because of country restrictions it is prohibited but if one day a customer uses a VPN to cheat to create multiple accounts maybe this will be a big problem that it has violated the rules even though it has been given freedom.

so maybe it's very natural that sometimes casinos review large withdrawals made by customers because the casino is also afraid that big wins or large amounts of money are obtained from fraud. so it's no wonder VPN use will always be a problem after a delayed withdrawal.

The thing is that casino allows the use of VPN just for various reason and is not as if von is a bad actor in casinos since it doesn't aid the player's winnings games unlike bots that does so, VPN is just to bypass restrictions in some regions and unless the player uses the VPN to violates the casino law only then they're seen as a threat like hiding under false locations to create multiple accounts which is against the rule of the casinos.

I don't think big gambling sites are going to check whether a player has used a VPN or not. That doesn't matter for the use of the site, does it? There are several reasons why a player can use a VPN. And there is another element underlying that, if someone uses a VPN for privacy, that is a different reason than someone using a VPN because they are located in a country where gambling is prohibited. Then you should combine this with strict KYC protocols. It remains a dangerous business to use KYC.

There have been many issues in certain sections with gambling sites not wanting to cash out players for using a VPN. I personally think you should have a reason to do this, just saying you used a VPN so we're closing your account would be a very weak statement. But it happens. I don't see the problem with a VPN myself, as long as someone just gets through the KYC procedure and doesn't harm the general terms and conditions in that respect, then it doesn't seem like a problem to me. It is of course the player's own responsibility to read the general terms and conditions.

I agree that the use of a VPN should not be penalized so heavily, after all if most gamblers which want to make a withdrawal have to go through a KYC process then this is not too much of a problem anymore, however it is obvious such strict rules are in place because some casinos do indeed want to make use of that particular rule on their TOS to avoid paying the customers that forget to turn off their VPNs when accessing their website, and as much as such behavior could be badly seen by us, as long as the gambler accepted those conditions there is not much we can do about it.

I think casinos have categories where they penalized the use of VPN such as circumventing the restrictions of the casino.  That is a serious offense because the country is blocked and supposed to be not playing in their casino but the hard-headed player because of the urge to gamble he bypasses everything and uses VPN to play even though he is from the restricted country.

If a reputable casino suspends the account, it is sure that the player suspended is cheating or breaking TOS. 

The thing is that gambling is illegal in some jurisdictions, and they check the IP in order to comply with that.

Maybe visiting would be OK, but making the payment would receive more checks, and they would be actually able to refuse payment to a country where it is illegal for them to provide gambling services, otherwise they might face issues.

I just realized  your question and had to read it extensively  and yes I will have to use VPN in cases where it is inevitable  like the case scenario you just mentioned  but the trust is that most of these casinos are very silly and don't even think before they act because they already have their T&C to back up their silly behaviors.
Using VPN on a casino is already a very risky act which can lead to possible ban of account especially  if there is some money in it and they might not even be interested in wanting  to hear things from your angle.

The best thing to do is avoiding VPN  use except in cases where it is inevitable.

Why wouldn't they? Why do you think they are building a good security network to maintain their websites against any form of fraudulent attack to cheat on their system, they ensure to take this control measures and know those who may through that abuse their system or cheat, this is also mostly done by the reputable gambling organizations who have enough money to maintain a good security network.


It matters alot, have you considered the use of IP address, that alone can be use to track down your specific location you're accessing their website from and other informations that may be required under that same tracking through the launching you made on their website.


Yes and you're right, that same reason that requires the gambler for using VPN will also be the equal reason why some betting platforms will deny the use because they don't want to loose at the cause of trying to make profits, also consider the possible risk involved to the gambling platforms.

There are strong and weak VPN so we just need to use a very strong one that can aid our activities on the casino that we intend using. There are many people I know from China that trading cryptocurrency and doing NFT using a very strong VPN and the government never knows about it. There are even more restricted sites that are being accessed with the use of VPN. If we are using a good VPN, we might not have any problem with access with many if these sites that might have restrictions. One major challenge may be we might not use big funds with the casino big risk it might pose.

in really urgent conditions, using a VPN is the only way but you need to remind that it would be better to ask the CS of the gambling site you want to play first, besides that paid VPNs have good features and the majority of paid VPN users don't  have problems opening the site they want

Yeah the fact is that casinos views the used VPN as an offense unless in situations where the gamblers have to be very limited in it usage and avoid being detected because it leads to outright banned, even though some casino approve VPN usage players should be careful enough not to get their activities picked as red flag by the security teams.

My suggestion to those who wana gamble using VPN for whatever reason, is that you have to open and get your account verified first it possible before using VPN if you visit a region where the casino is restricted that way you are free to use it.

On just using up your own common sense, if there's a rule on prohibiting on making use of VPN then why would you really forced out on using it up even if its against the rules?

People would really be just ending up on regretting on the time that they would really be facing up some lock ups on the time that the casino or any platform would really be catching them on using VPN.
On this case, you wouldnt really be having no chance on making some excuses just because you had violate their terms and conditions on the first place. Why would really be pushing through?
Is there a game that you do really want to play? We do have tons of choices and options we do have in the market. Doesnt really need to violate up some terms and conditions
just for you to push on playing into a particular game. We do really indeed have tons.

Dont make yourself ending up on regretting just because you have desperately pushing up something just because you do believe that they wont really be able to caught you in.

I don't understand why you can't use a VPN. Casinos should be commended that they can have the option for people to log into their site, so those things are what they should accept, a casino is interested in people and money, nothing else, play that they spend money, that people have fun. , whether they win or lose, that is why I often do not understand why some do not accept the use of VPN, those who do allow the use of VPN I congratulate them.

In online casinos that are Crypto in nature, they should not put these inconveniences, as I said before, they are interested in people entering to play games, and if they win, then they should be paid, not that they say: "as they entered with VPN they did not We will pay" I mean, for God's sake, this is shameless use, but if instead of winning the player loses and then complains, does the casino refund the money they lost? obviously not, then these things must be seen from every point of view to be fairer..

It's not because casinos want to ban vpns, it's basically because different countries have different gambling rules, and the casino is not allowed to serve people from specific countries, where it is illegal to do so.

So, they check their IP to establish the country, and with a VPN that check is useless, so they have to ban VPNs then.

Obviously the casinos in general would be happy to accept anyone from anywhere, but the laws prohibit that.

Not every platform accept players from all around the globe, now what if you are from a country that the casino don't accept players from but you are using a VPN of a country where the casino is allowed to be used, they might not be able to identify you at first, but when they ask for KYC verification, that is when you get in trouble and it becomes an hassle for the casino as well, that's why they don't allow using VPNs.

A platform that accepts players from the whole world don't really care much about their players using VPNs or not because no matter where you are from and from where you are accessing the casino, as long as you can verify yourself, you should be good.

Yes, it's true, and using a VPN, we can gamble without knowing the real IP on the cellphone or PC that we use, but most of this is prohibited by casinos, especially those that implement KYC.
And the majority of gamblers who use VPN because the country they live in is not allowed by casinos to play there.

In fact, the law does not put too much pressure on gamblers from anywhere to play at any casino, it's just that from my knowledge it is the competent gambling authority that prohibits it.
This is only to my knowledge, if it's not quite right, please correct it.

we gamble just for fun without having to take too big a risk, even though here or outside the forum there are still many gambling platforms that allow certain countries to gamble so we can choose which gambling platform is suitable to use without a VPN.
I've often said that maybe gambling sites allow using a VPN, but in the long run there's no guarantee if a problem occurs because the VPN changes our IP to another country and of course when sending KYC or wanting to withdraw large funds, you have to go through KYC level 2. this will be suspected or even rejected. even worse the funds will be frozen.
so it would be better to find a casino that can be accessed without using a VPN that would be much better.

There shouldn't be anything g wrong with using a VPN like you said, but you can never know if any online casino will use that against you, your VPN might be the world best but make sure that your journey on any online casino starts with that VPN and the exact IP address, because they could wait patiently for the day when you made a lot of money through their platform and you try to withdraw your funds, that's where all the past allegations will come upon your head with full force, some online casinos keeps record of your activities, e.g the phone you use to log into your account every time, the IP locations and addresses etc.  

I would just avoid all these honestly, because I have been messes up using a VPN before, but that's a very long time ago, they did everything that I wrote on here to me, but that's a finance platform, not an online casino, VPN and my money is something I don't want to try anymore.

You're right, if their own rules go against using such then why not comply than going against their rules, and once they detected that's all, the user account will be freeze, i noticed that's why some gambling platforms go against such was just because they don't want to create a vulnerability avenue for the attackers to hack their system and cheat on them, any suspicious move in such manners will be restricted and blocked by their system ones detected.

These websites do care about users and earnings, but they also have to abide by national and international laws. Using a VPN to get around geo-blocks is illegal in several jurisdictions. Although it may seem like an unnecessary nuisance, the casinos need to comply with the law in order to preserve their good name. A key component of the global effort to combat money laundering is KYC checks. Blockchain principles of accountability, transparency, and safety cannot be compromised in the cryptosphere. Use of a VPN might compromise this. We should consider the moral and legal repercussions before embracing an open, global betting market.

I know of such gamblers who do not want the casino to know their IP address and personal information that is why they gamble using a VPN. They don't care about laws that are designed to de-anonymize them on the internet. They play for fun and only go through KYC using black market bought documents when it's worth it, like winning a large sum of money.   

I completely understand these people's desire to stay in the shadows and completely accept their choice.

If it is against their ToS I don't see any reason why I would put my money or account in danger to use it.
If you don't like their ToS there are so many other casino out there so why not try other site that could provide you with what you are looking for.

I also understand them but the thing is, the casino forbid the use of VPN so these guys might be looking for a problem if they use VPN on the platform that forbids it.  The TOS is there to be followed and not just a decoration.  Anyone breaching the platform TOS will eventually find themselves in troube.  Their account may possibly get banned, funds confiscated and will not entertain their petition because they are caught using VPN which is established forbidden by the TOS.

And going even further, casinos might be motivated to let you play with your money using a VPN, but the moment you want to withdraw money from them, they would make sure to double and triple check that VPN, and refuse to give you the funds.

So, personally, I wouldn't use a VPN in a casino at all, since there's no real reason to trust that I would get any money back from it, and they would be in their right to do so.

They shouldn't have tried it in a casino where it's forbidden to use VPNs in that casino. It will only cause problems for gamblers who continue to use a VPN solely to protect their IP address and personal information. They can look for other casinos that are also trusted and allow their users to use VPNs so they won't have any problems.

And using documents bought on the black market is not feasible to withdraw big winnings because the casinos will know the truth either way. I think we understand that but those who don't understand the rules in casinos. They can find casinos that don't ask their users to do KYC and use VPNs so they don't have to break the rules of the casino.

Everyone always makes it complicated when it's against the Tos that shouldn't be done or using a VPN on purpose, many cases of accounts and money being frozen when violating casino rules and that's why we are not advised to violate what the casino has forbidden and let alone break their Tos.

If you want the OP can actually find out there are lots of casinos that don't prohibit the use of VPN on their Tos so why make it so complicated, go to a casino that doesn't violate the Tos using a VPN, after all what's so difficult about using the original IP of our internet network and playing gambling, if indeed the reason being blocked by the government cannot access the gambling platform site actually the OP could have asked casino service support whether this is allowed for a reason, well at least so he can get a satisfactory answer.

If the casino is legit then there is no chance that they will freeze the withdrawals. However, if a casino is doing shady business then the probability of taking such action is 100%, because they will put the blame on the gambler by saying that he/she used a VPN to deposit his/her funds and gambled using that VPN. After that those shady casinos can easily change their T&C without notifying the gamblers. That's the way of those scammers and they will do it even if the users wasn't using any VPN connection. Many of the private VPN connections won't allow the casinos to know that the gambler is using a VPN and they consider the connection as a guanine citizen of the country whose IP was used to connect to the casino.

I don't think that anything is wrong when we use VPN for gambling, and if they don't allow VPN's then something is wrong with them. They might have some strict restrictions and regulations that could make them now allow the use of a VPN connection other than that I don't think they ever need to block or ban VPN connections.

Actually I think the most legit casinos will be the ones enforcing the VPN ban, because there are laws and regulations in different countries that they have to follow.

So, by not being able to determine the origin of the connection of the gambler when a VPN is used, then they cannot provide the service basically.

This is really sad situation in my opinion. Crypto casinos probably don't even wanna ban vpn usage themselves because many customers want to use them. But just by being legit business they need to obey some rules enforced by different countries to be permitted (or licensed). I think in past times things online, I mean businesses online were pretty much relaxed with such issues. Internet was supposed to be very free. Now its not free at all. Completely regulated.

That's because there are regulations from the government that make casinos add restrictions on using VPNs for their users.
But I think there are still casinos that allow their users to use VPNs but maybe there are other requirements that their members must meet.
And if VPN is banned in the casino, we better not try it or we can get caught by the casino and our account can be blocked.
Government regulations have become more stringent, so users seem to be limited by verification in many businesses.

In some sense, you are correct. Because, if a casino in properly registered in countries like United States or the United Kingdom, then regulators will obviously do not allow casinos to accept gamblers to connect from locations which do not coincide with the KYC documentation submitted at the beginning of the registration.

If a casino allows VPN, then my first thought would be that service is either lacking of proper license or is registered in a very laxing country when comes to gambling.

Even if people do not like it we need to follow the rules of the casinos regarding VPNs, so if they state very clearly that using a VPN is a clear violation to their TOS then we need to accept it, and if for some reason someone finds critical to make use of a VPN while they gamble then they will have no other choice but to find another casino which is more permissive with their policies, however this has its own set of risks as a casino like that most likely lacks a casino license.

Follow or not?

Its up to your own choice and we arent that dumb on not to see those possible consequences on the time that you do read up on which VPN isnt allowed but you do still proceed on making use of it?
You are the ones who do put yourself into trouble. If you are really that hard headed then go ahead and proceed, you might be able to pass or slip into their radar but on the time comes that they would be able to spot you out then there's nothing you can do but to accept your fate since you've been aware that you are violating since from the start.  :D

There are casinos which allows and do not allow on making use of VPN, there are certain countries laws which would really be making things like this.

regarding VPN, this is actually quite easy, but sometimes we are too serious to take this problem.

when we want to come to a casino site for the purpose of having fun, of course we will always avoid any risks that make us fail when we want to have fun, such as using a VPN which is risky when something goes wrong and finally the account will be frozen.
after all, there are still lots of casino sites that we can access according to what we want without having to use a VPN which is risky in the long run.
but it all returns to each gambler whether they want to take this risk.

I sometimes try to understand why a casino is annoyed that some user uses the VPN to play there, instead of feeling praised because even though they are prohibited from entering for being in a country that is not allowed, they still do so, instead of accept it, because here it doesn't matter where the person is from, it's the player that matters, and I believe that every player is classified as a player and not as from a specific country, or by the color of their skin, race, religion, etc., here it is What matters is that I can play, enjoy, win, lose, the normal thing in a casino, so sometimes I don't understand these things, but hey, each casino , each company has its way of seeing things.

Yeah, it's already so improbable to win big in a casino, why would people want to add more risk to their "investment"?

If you end up winning and you used a VPN, the casino can basically say that they won't pay you and they would be fine to say so. That would suck.

A lot of the new casinos are doing that... because they use that as a tool to reduce payments to people that win large amounts. They will not do anything to you, when you gamble through a VPN, but the moment when you win big... they start digging and then suddenly VPN use are used as an excuse not to honor the withdrawal.

There are currently someone in Australia that are planning to take Eddie from Stake.com to court.. over VPN usage. He or she was gambling from Australia.. where it is illegal and after he or she lost a large amount of money.. he or she decided to use Eddie as an excuse for them using a VPN. (Eddie are from Australia and he is using a VPN during his weekly streaming sessions)  ::)

Your input on the potential bending of rules by nascent casinos illuminates the unseen power play in the online gambling sphere. VPN rules, seemingly protective, can have a murkier undertone. Their misuse by casinos, particularly to refuse payouts, is a clear red flag for unwary gamblers.

The legal struggle in Australia underscores this predicament. It reflects the duality of responsibility—gamblers should abide by the rules, and casinos must act with integrity and transparency.

The online gambling world is a minefield of known and unseen risks. This disclosure definitely deepens our comprehension of these risks.

You using vpn when gambling and you know its against their TOS is really wrong, the casino can decide to use that against you at any moment and you will be the one to lose. You said gambling is legal in your country but you have to go to another country that gambling is illegal, since you wont be staying their forever, then you should just wait till you return back to your country, or if you cant wait then look for any gambling site which using of vpn is not against their TOS, it will be better than taking unnecessary risk. If you are having enough money in your account they might likely going to block your account if they know you are using vpn and their is nothing you can do about that since its stated in their TOS that vpn is not allowed.

Seems pretty clear to me.

If you live in Australia you are not allowed to gamble in those sites. The casino most certainly has some kind of disclaimer that states that. If the gambler chooses to bypass this by setting up a VPN to show that they are playing from another country, then the responsibility clearly should be on the gambler, not the casino.

The problem is that the money the Australian gambler is paying to the casino to play shouldn't have been received by the casino either, but that's what the gambler did, basically telling the casino they were from another country, which for the casino should be alright.

There is no excuse for gamblers if the casino has determined that using a VPN is prohibited so if a gambler is caught using a VPN, the casino can do something about it.
We also must not violate the rules in the casino rather than jeopardize our gambling account and get banned from the casino.
If we don't like the casino, we can look for other casinos that allow us to use a VPN to play gambling more freely by hiding our IP.
After all, although many casinos don't allow their users to use VPNs, they still allow their users not to do KYC, which should be our concern.

If it says you can't use it, then you shouldn't use it. You are breaking their terms of services. So they have every right to confiscate your funds. But sadly people will still cry over this saying that the casino "scammed" them. Yes, they get caught when they try to withdraw huge amount, because it is easier to monitor huge withdrawals, then to monitor each and every user if they are using a VPN or not.
If you are travelling to  a country were gambling is illegal, then you shouldn't actually be gambling there. Chances of you being in trouble is very less, but still better not take the risk. You can wait till you go back home, no?

Never! I am simply giving the casino every reason to rob me off my money, a smart gambler must stay clean when using any gambling casino, and make sure you don't create any suspicious move on your account by yourself if the casino is fraudulent, they will easily use one of this act to pin you down, even if you call the attention of people, all you will hear is 'why as you using VPN in the first place' like you have something to hide.

It doesn't matter or make a difference if the online casino prohibits the use of VPN or not, don't because an example where you will be forced to ask them where the rules of not using a VPN is, it doesn't matter.

You will be lucky to get things sorted out by the team, that is if they decide to consider you, VPN and gambling is a very bad idea, and avoid serving as an example.

A casino cannot do that if they have allowed users to use VPNs on the platform and if they have it mentioned in their terms and conditions, if it isn't available in their terms and conditions, one should of course not use a VPN because that can always go against you no matter how user-friendly a casino is, they will surely use it as an excuse when they feel they should and you better not give them the opportunity to be able to do that with you.

But if a casino specifically mentions in their terms and conditions or somewhere in their platform that the use of VPNs isn't prohibited and users can do it, one should simply take a screenshot and then use a VPN so that if something goes wrong, they should have some proof.

The team will definitely solve the problem and consider the problem of using a VPN if he is willing not to repeat it a second time and is willing to say what is the real reason for using a VPN that is clearly prohibited by casinos.
The casino team works well and provides as much satisfactory service as possible to all customers by providing the fairest solution for any problems that occur.
But you need to know that there are also some casinos that allow their customers access by using a VPN.

I understand, but as they say out there, this is crypto, casinos should be a little more irreverent in that sense, I think that someone who uses VPN is precisely because of this problem, and a casino cannot support these policies, I have had experience that in The countries that are prohibited is because their governments have been the worst, and those people need to have fun, have something good for them that they deserve, I think they should give priority to their people and not to a specific government, when sending a person bitcoin he has access to a forbidden country, and it's money, that's what matters.

But I see your point, I know that if a casino is in a country it must abide by its rules, and despite what I say about crypto and everything that has to do with technology, a government can make the casino License break and don't have permission , that's why I think there are many decentralized casinos that can do a lot of good things , but they haven't done enough to pull customers away from the Centralized casinos.

There are platforms which are considerate and there are ones who would really be sticking out into their rules on which as a user who do commit out such violation would definitely be penalized or facing up consequences
with that which it would really be just that a normal approach or decisions would be making by these companies on which as a violator then you dont have the rights on complaining about their decisions isnt really that right. You've been pretty wary about their terms and conditions (unless you do read it up) that if VPN isnt that allowed or prohibited, then why you would really be forcing out on making use of something
which isnt allowed?
If we do speak about gambling choices or options then we do have tons in the market on which you could choose from.There are really just those people who do really likes on playing on a site
on which it do looks interesting and trying out to bypass if ever there are prohibitions.  ;D

If the gambler doesn't want to have a problem sooner or later, should always stick to what is stated in their ToS.
Because if someone just say that it is fine, but the terms stated otherwise, then, at the end, the owner will refer to their terms.
Hard to trust the assurance over chat, much better to comply with the published terms as that's the official stand of the site.

The bettors who are playing in countries where casinos are not banned then they don't have good reason to use VPN because if you do, you are by implication hidding something from those in authority. I also won't suggest that bettors use VPN when they are in jurisdiction that have not banned cryptocurrency and stick to their rules in ToS because I believe if casino is not rejecting your registration, you don't need to use VPU .

I agree.

At the end of the day if you are lucky enough to win in those casinos, they will always have the option to not allow you to withdraw the money and make your play invalid because you violated their Terms of Service by using a VPN.

It's simply best to play with their rules if you want your money back.

The results will not be good for those who have violated the rules of the casino because the casino will know first that we have violated the rules. We might be able to survive their rules, but there must be a penalty for us, so perhaps we can't withdraw the winnings we have earned. And if the casino still allows us to withdraw the deposit money we made, that means we can still think it's good luck for us. Usually, the casino doesn't even allow us to withdraw deposit money because our offence has crossed the line. So be careful when reading the TOS and better understand it before joining a casino.

VPNs should not be used in casinos that prohibit it in their TOS, although some casinos accept VPN use. In this case the gambler can conduct his normal gambling but can restrict his account after a big win. So as a responsible gambler each of us should be absolutely safe from our own place. While some gambling platforms are flexible with VPN usage, not all gambling platforms are the same. I would definitely avoid sites that don't allow VPN use. And if someone wants to use VPN with risk, he will be responsible for it.

Every casino must have this prohibition and of course we have to comply with it so that if we violate it, like it or not, we have to be able to accept the risk of sanctions that will be given by the casino.
I don't use a VPN when the casino forbids it and you should know that I always ask support if I want to do anything that seems to have been the rules of the casino so I don't take the wrong action and get punished.
But all of this depends on the awareness of each gambler whether they want to comply with these rules because not a few gamblers don't want to read the TOS so they don't know what restrictions are contained in the TOS.

Wait a minute, because not everyone is looking for an attractive casino and most gamblers are looking for a casino that is trusted and can provide what the gamblers themselves want.

TOS is an important guideline before playing and really must be understood. But using a VPN cannot be avoided if we as gamblers are prohibited because our country is not allowed. I asked one of the online casino site admins if I could use a VPN or not, the answer was yes as long as you can play and become a new customer they don't mind that. But some are also strict and do not allow using a VPN.
Complying with regulations or not is certain depending on everyone's awareness, as in implementing KYC it will be requested when there is a withdrawal threshold that requires depositing KYC. Trusted casinos currently have many users and actually pay when gamblers win and can withdraw them smoothly without any obstacles.

As far as I know, most online casinos prohibit the use of VPNs for their users, but so far I haven't encountered any problems using a VPN when playing on my casino platform. Indeed, in their regulations, they provide sanctions for players who use VPNs, but as a casino platform, they also need players on their platform to keep their business running. So you could say that their regulations, in my opinion, are just a formality, because in practice they don't impose sanctions on users who use VPNs.

When you're playing online (and let's be honest, who isn't?), those pesky TOS (terms of service) are your proverbial lifeboat. You'd think it's straightforward: read them, understand them, comply. But it's like you say, there's this alluring gray area, particularly when it comes to VPN usage. And there's no definitive answer, because different platforms have different attitudes. They might say, "Hey, use a VPN, no problem!"... But remember, their interests might not always align with yours

Your encounter with the casino site admin who didn't mind VPNs is interesting. I'd just remind you, there's a distinction to be made: the admin's "yes" could simply be a more diplomatic way of saying "We're not actively policing it."

The real issue here is that rules are not uniformly enforced across all platforms. Adherence to them is indeed a matter of individual integrity. It's like doing KYC (Know Your Customer) checks – they're generally mandatory but only enforced at certain thresholds. A trusted casino will certainly pay out winnings and have a smooth withdrawal process, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be vigilant. It's our responsibility, ultimately, to keep ourselves safe and informed.

I think all platforms has a general view on VPN because I open my casino account always with VPN without encountering any problem. Common misconception here in the forum that some casino doesn’t allowed VPN in general but if you read carefully the ToS, It clearly stated that VPN is only not allowed if you’re using it to access the casino for bypassing your country restriction. This is why most of the cases involving VPN usually required KYC to verify the country of the player while the common problem is they are playing from restricted country that’s why they are using VPN.

There’s no case here that an account is banned for using VPN alone without bypassing country restriction issue or using VPN for multiple account in able to abuse the casino bonus system.

Yeah, I don't think the casinos care too much when gamblers use a VPN while they spend their money.

But, the moment they request a withdraw, that's when they would likely check if there's a VPN involved.

I can't access some gambling places because of the blocking carried out by the government in my country, so I need to use a VPN to be able to access them, I know that casino TOS regulations prohibit it, but so far I have used a VPN on a gambling platform without any adverse problems, especially for me personally, it runs smoothly, but indeed when playing there is a site that is strict in its rules, when I make a withdrawal it takes a long time and confirms to the gambling service and explains my situation, why do I use a VPN to access their gambling, in case this is what I experienced only when the withdrawal had a decent amount of time to wait.

Yes, that's true, to be honest they don't really care about this, but if you make a withdrawal it will be checked, especially large withdrawals, the inspection is definitely carried out by the gambling party, but if the amount is small, it is rarely checked.

It might be better before you sign up for a casino, you can ask the support service about using a VPN in that casino. It would be better to do so that we will not get into trouble, and if the casino bans VPN use, but we still use VPN and gamble, one day we might get into trouble. We can play gambling at the casino with a VPN, but if the casino finds out that we violated its rules about prohibiting VPN use, it will have consequences for our account. But if until now you have been safe, I think you can still gamble but be careful not to use big money to gamble.

You will nevery have problem using VPN if you are consistent on using same country IP since you register until you play for the casino doesn’t suspect you for using VPN when you withdraw. The only downside on your case is you really breaking the casino ToS which makes your gambling experience dangerous.

Casino usually subject someone under KYC if you are frequently deposit and withdrawing your balance. This is what my experience on my different casino account before I'm being requred to do KYC regardless if I win or lose big time.

I think some people use VPNs to access casinos from countries where it's not allowed. That might work when you are putting money in, but as you say, the moment you ask for a withdrawal, the casino will have a look at that VPN connection and not pay you anything. And they would be right as those are their terms and conditions.

I'd like to think that their regulations are not a formulation at all because from my experience gambling in different casino which I have used VPN for accessing their site I have been strictly punishe for most of those casino which actually prohibit the use of VPN by confiscating some of my huge winning but the good part about this particular issue with VPN use is that the casino always later allow me to access the winnings but the only thing is that the whole process is stressful because I have lay series of complaints and also kyc for the casino.

It depends on the VPN service you have used, how can the casino distinguish between IP address with and without VPN? of course it's because how far the change of your IP address. This day the VPN service use Germany location, tomorrow the VPN service use France location, the next two days the VPN service use Japan location, this is clear a red flag in your account.

But if you use a premium VPN service where you're allowed to choose which country and which city you want to connect, it make the casino wouldn't know if you're use VPN.

yes maybe that's what I am not aware of, I have never changed my country's IP in accessing the gambling platform, it is true that my gambling experience is worse especially if with the threat of me they will delete, of course it is detrimental to me personally, but how The way I access the gambling if I don't use VPN, this makes me hesitant if I keep thinking.

Maybe my withdrawal and deposit has not reached the limit of the implementation of the KYC, so until yesterday I did gambling was safe, without a notification I had to do gambling from the gambling platform.

In other words, it's not worth the risk we will experience, especially if we win. And when the casino matches our data with our IP, and it turns out that there is no match, it can create a problem for us because we have to show the casino valid proof and make the casino believe in us. Playing it safe and trying to follow the rules in the casino won't get us into any trouble, so we can also play gambling comfortably. And if they still don't agree with the casino's rules on VPN use, they can look for other casinos that can allow VPN use.

It basically depends on the nature of the casino and how lenient or strict they are with the rules and regulations, and their trust and reputation plays a great role at this too. A casino that has a good reputation and is trusted among the community because it has been around for quite some time and never had any problems with their gamblers will most likely not make that big of an issue out of this if you have used a VPN to access the casino as long as you are a verified user.

But there are some casinos that look for excuses and very small things to punish the gamblers out of their money, and such casinos will never take even the smallest things lightly like using a VPN for only logging into the platform but not gambling, they will take that and use it against you only to confiscate your funds.

Indeed a lot of casino are actually looking for slight error from their customers especially when he or she might have acquired some huge winnings, I have seen many casino online restrict users of their big winning due to some violation of their Tos and the problem is no one actually have time to even read these TOS  in these gambling sites so for me I just go through the FAQ of the casino to actually have some insight not to violate any of their regulations.

I'm aware that some casinos regulate the use of VPNs, but in general a lot of the big casinos even encourage it (considering they want more wealthy players from countries where gambling is prohibited to play with them). Some of them even cater their content and bonuses specifically towards those players from the Middle East and Islamic countries where gambling is strictly prohibited and punishable by incarceration, as seen here: https://myser-gambling.com/online-casino-saudi-arabia/ (https://myser-gambling.com/online-casino-saudi-arabia/)

My only recommendation would be to make sure you aren't using a dodgy VPN, but one that actually hides the fact that you are using a VPN from the websites and apps you visit (they usually aren't free, though).

There are some who may penalize for violating using a VPN and some who don't because I've never used a VPN so it's best to just be safe, don't want to look for trouble, especially since it's prohibited in their TOS. it's best to communicate with CS first so you can find out whether it's allowed or not because if you want to use a VPN there shouldn't be a problem because it can also help more gambling users.

My personal opinion is also if the casino prohibits the use of VPN it's a bit funny, sometimes we don't know why the user is using a VPN it could be that their government prohibits access to gambling so they have to use a VPN but if that is also prohibited by the casino it will be very strange because it can reduced existing gamblers. but directly maybe I will try to contact CS if one day my government blocks gambling sites and uses VPN to access gambling.

Well, there are some ways to guess that the user is using a VPN service, because most VPN services that are available to the public only have a set of IPs available to them, so once they figure out one IP is a VPN, then any future users of that VPN getting that IP will be "discovered"

And that's when gamblers who violate the rules will complain about their problems and even submit them on this forum in the hope that friends on this forum will help them. But after careful investigation, it turns out that he was the one who violated the rules of the casino, and he only wanted to damage the reputation of the casino by spreading false stories. There is no other way for him except to let the casino take his money because of his own mistakes. But some casinos allow him to withdraw his deposited money but cannot withdraw his winnings. That is the policy of the casino. We better follow the rules of the casino so that our gambling account is safe from trouble.

Withdrawing his winnings seem very considerate but some casino just allow them to withdraw what they deposit. I think we have seen these happen every time there is a scam accusation where the user did something against the TOS. Its often just what was deposited as allowed to be withdrawn.

I'm not sure if authorities will find it illegal when casinos have lots of domain to mirror their website so that users from countries where gambling is illegal don't have to use VPN.

Because the casino caught the cheating gambler, the casino would not allow him to withdraw all his money. Apart from that, casinos also provide a deterrent effect to other gamblers so they don't follow what the cheating gambler is doing.

If a casino has multiple domains, it may be a mirror if gamblers from different countries cannot access one of the domains. And with that many domains, gamblers can still visit the casino. Apart from that, trusted casinos also always tell their members to follow the official domain and include the mirror domain if they cannot access the official domain.

The deterrent effect will of course warn other gamblers not to use a VPN or violate the ToS that has been made. Trusted legal casinos will usually apply their rules according to the ToS that have been made and will not violate them. But some new casinos that don't have clarity sometimes allow members from banned countries to find new users to register and play at their casino. But if the casino is serious and wants to cover other countries using multiple domains will make it easy to access and warnings or official domain information will be posted on their social media.

Sometimes the VPN is not completely anonymous and your real IP will be seen too as far as I know if you use a public and free VPN obviously it will be problematic too because maybe the VPN IP is also used by other people to access the same site so it is detected that you are doing multiple accounts, that's why maybe the reason using a VPN is too dangerous for a gambling account too unless you buy with a premium account maybe it's safer.

I have never tried using a VPN to access gambling sites because I am not an anonymous person, so as long as the site is trusted, why not access it with a real IP, sometimes there are gamblers who don't want the IP they are using to be seen, whether it's because of privacy or they want to play cheating but don't want to. detected from other crimes. why do you have to use a VPN if you can use a real IP to play gambling.

This can deter some gamblers from following gamblers who break the rules of the casino, but other gamblers, won't be deterred and instead want to try it themselves. But when they get into trouble for using a VPN, which is a violation as written in the casino rules, they will start complaining and spreading false news as if they were innocent. This is common in many casinos; in this case, the user is already at fault for breaking the casino rules. New casinos may not make their rules so detailed and may still allow their users to use VPNs, but users should be careful because new casinos can change their rules without notifying their users.

No.

You don't know why VPNs are banned

It's because they cannot establish your country of origin through IP. That's it.

The fake news that is spread will give the casino a bad rating, even though they have violated it due to the use of VPN which is not allowed. Sometimes in addition to other regulations regarding withdrawal regulations that must use KYC it will also be problematic because new users don't read carefully about the rules made in casinos. New casinos may still make concessions to some regulations, this is so that users are not too burdened with existing regulations. Regulations will indeed continue to bear fruit without any notification and that is the policy of every casino.

Well, for some casinos, this is probably hard for them to figure out, most especially if the casino is pretty new and coming up, the only ways they are able to figure out a user is or has been using VPN is when the ask such user to pass kyc verification, and discover that the location their system has recorded for the user through his or her IP address is not the same location in the document the user provided.
Another way again is that if the user is not consistent in making VPN, or makes use of different VPN services for different sessions on the casino, this will be linking the user to different IPs which in turn will make the casino want to investigate the reason for the different IPs, from this investigation, they will find out that such a user is making use of VPN to access their platform..

Yet another way, and this i believe to be the most simplest way, is by the casino installing a VPN dictator, this piece of tech and easily detect when a user is accessing the casino through VPN and immediately report to the casino.

Isn't it fake news? Meaning it is not true so I do not think that news to dimerit a casino will ever make a casino in a bad rating as long as the casino had established a fact that they are right and that the player breach their TOS.  That is enough to redeem the casino out of this fake news.

If it is written on the TOS, it should be followed regardless of the players who are registering on the site.  If the TOS require KYC then the player must abide by the rule since they had agreed on the TOS the moment they clicked the notification that they read and agreed with the terms of the casino and registered to the site.  There is no excuse that they failed to read it since they have been notified beforehand.

The ToS regarding KYC is indeed a sensitive matter. If a casino already requires KYC to make withdrawals or then it must be complied with. But of course there is a minimum withdrawal that requires KYC, because some casinos don't want to lose all their customers by fully implementing KYC for new users. and regarding the use of a VPN, even though it is written in the ToS there are several casinos that I use allow the use of a VPN even though it is prohibited in writing, I was even contacted directly. this is probably because I'm a new user and the casino is still just released.

But if the fake news is aimed at a trusted casino, then the fake news will have no effect. The people who spread the fake news will experience bad things, especially if the casino can provide valid evidence that the person has done things contrary to the casino rules. People will defend that trusted casino because they see that a trusted casino will not do things that could harm the reputation of that trusted casino. For this reason, as a beginner, we must know the rules of the casino that we use to play gambling because each casino's rules are different. Do not let small things get our gambling accounts blocked and that is because of our own mistakes.

If you know the right thing do it, yes I said that because going against the policy of a platform is considered wrong and sometimes comes with a very big disadvantage, sometimes these online sites have there different ways of punishing customers who go against their TOS that does not accept the use of VPN, so it would be at your own risk if an online site does not permit the use of VPN and you go against it because  you might be able to make deposit, stake on games but might find it difficult to make withdrawals due to a bridge in their policy.

 I've seen situation where people violate the terms and conditions of online gambling platform and also called them with backlash when they're being punished or frustrated by the platforms, the thing is violating a platforms TOS  warrant punishment and no matter how you call them out when you're unable to withdraw your funds or asked to provide frustrating documents before withdrawals they'll always get the upper hand so far you're guilty so it best to avoid going against a companies TOS or risk being punished severely.

The thing is that casinos are not allowed to serve users of certain countries.

So, this is independent of a matching KYC, they simply need to check the country of the IP they are serving. Since they cannot establish that when a VPN is detected, then they simply ban the use of VPNs.

There are services that provide a list of IPs that are being used in VPNs so they can detect it that way.

The user can use VPN upon creating a new account and always using VPN with the same country when they want to access the site, this make the casino will not know if the user is using VPN.

Even the casino flagged the account for using VPN, he can lie by saying he's travel to other country and photoshopped the passport.

If the casino didn't crosscheck the information with the local government, they wouldn't know.

As mentioned before, the casino would be able to know there is a VPN being used, because there are lists of known IPs coming from VPNs.

Basically, it's the same way that Netflix and others detect that the user is behind a VPN.

You don't need any information from the user other than the IP address to know they might be using a VPN.