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June 01, 2023, 11:50:26 PM
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As everything is clearly mentioned in their ToS, violating the same gonna be problematic someday. Maybe for the moment we doesn't get about it. We itself know that we have violated the ToS using VPN. In such situation how can we request help on the blocking of our account.

It is a must for everyone to read the ToS, and I'm sure no one does it. Simply everyone go on the flow clicking agree. Understanding and not doing it seems to be fair, so that doesn't get into unwanted issues and enjoy gambling.

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June 01, 2023, 11:57:23 PM
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As everything is clearly mentioned in their ToS, violating the same gonna be problematic someday. Maybe for the moment we doesn't get about it. We itself know that we have violated the ToS using VPN. In such situation how can we request help on the blocking of our account.

It is a must for everyone to read the ToS, and I'm sure no one does it. Simply everyone go on the flow clicking agree. Understanding and not doing it seems to be fair, so that doesn't get into unwanted issues and enjoy gambling.

if the player wants a headache, then use VPN even if they state it clearly on their ToS about not using it. just follow their terms or suffer their consequences, plain and simple.
some players are hardheaded and when it is time to collect their funds, and the site got a hold of it, they will accuse the site of being a scam. sometimes, i don't understand people with such kind of mentality.

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June 01, 2023, 11:58:22 PM
Last edit: June 02, 2023, 12:18:42 AM by Fiatless
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Whatever will make you violate the terms of service of any casino should be avoided. We all know that VPN helps to improve privacy but ToS is an agreement between you and the casino, violating it may attract severe consequences. Most of these casinos are mandated by regulators to prohibit the use of VPNs because they want to check fraud and money laundering within their territory. Your funds can be frozen or your account closed if they suspect that you are using VPN. Even if you report to relevant authorities about your problem they will do nothing about it because you have violated the terms of service. Litigation against the casino will also be fruitless. The best advice is that if you are not comfortable with casinos that don't permit the use of VPNs, you can search for others that accept it and carry out your gambling there. There are many trusted crypto casinos that you can use that don't prohibit the use of a VPN.
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June 02, 2023, 12:21:04 AM
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Uhm no? Why would I force myself to play when there's other possible options I can play on? If there wasn't, well as much as I say gambling is for enjoyment it does involve money so nah, I'm fine with not playing. If it were for free though, like what I do to access some specific beta test of some games, then hell yea I'd do it.

Imo it isn't really controversial, it's just kind ass how some casinos change their ToS to suddenly rejecting VPN, or somehow flagging you for multi accounting, which can happen due to how VPN works afaik when in the first place THEY should know how VPN works. Well that is if VPN is allowed in the first place. If it wasn't, then yea I really don't think I would or even risk it.

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June 02, 2023, 12:34:29 AM
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I've done it before, but I wouldn't do it again when my account is on the line. If it's blocked on my end, then i'll switch to another casino because I have no problem using a different casino when I have accounts in other casinos. If I somehow break the rules by using VPN the only amount that casinos confiscate is usually the winnings while the deposited amount will be returned or at least the account will be allowed to withdraw the remaining amount.

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June 02, 2023, 01:08:29 AM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Probably not if against the TOS. I'd just wait to be back home where it's legal than risking the balance in my account. I am curious though for those who will change their permanent address to another country where it's not allowed. They would probably need to tell customer support for special treatment because of his sudden case as long as there is proof of the relocation or the other option is to withdraw all the amount from the old gambling site and look for something new that is allowed in the new place that they will live in.
Yeah, I'd pick those options that risk the money being locked and cannot get it back again. We have a lot of online gambling sites now so I think there will always be that one site that is not restricted to gambling in one country. That will be better than being inclined with a VPN.

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June 02, 2023, 04:58:04 AM
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Straight up, no chaser: Playing fast and loose with a VPN is like juggling with dynamite, even if the suits seem to be turning a Nelson's eye. ToS aren't just corporate jargon, they're a safety net for both the corporation and us, the users. Brush them off, and you could land yourself in a whole heap of trouble.

Suppose you're heading to a spot on the globe where online gambling is a no-fly zone, your VPN might spring the lock, but remember, it's pretty much like crashing a party - yeah, you might dance to the tunes, but there's always a chance you could get found out. If the big cheeses catch you in the act, you're toast!

What goes down if they slam the brakes on your account and commandeer your bankroll? Well, you're practically stranded. You've already disregarded their ToS, so it's their ballgame, their rules. Be smart, stick to the straight and narrow, and keep your winnings under wraps.

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June 02, 2023, 05:23:32 AM
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I think if they are not allowing you to use VPN so you should avoid to use VPN because if you will not follow their terms and conditions so they can ban your account or they will not allow you to use their services. So it will better you should not use the VPN. And if you want to use VPN so you can use the VPN at your own risk. And I will not use VPN if it is mentioned in terms and conditions.

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As everything is clearly mentioned in their ToS, violating the same gonna be problematic someday. Maybe for the moment we doesn't get about it. We itself know that we have violated the ToS using VPN. In such situation how can we request help on the blocking of our account.

It is a must for everyone to read the ToS, and I'm sure no one does it. Simply everyone go on the flow clicking agree. Understanding and not doing it seems to be fair, so that doesn't get into unwanted issues and enjoy gambling.

I will also alarm it to everyone involved notnto try thebuse of VPN onna casino of their platform kicked against such, it's one of the means people can adopt to attack them by manipulating the IP address and other shady acts using technology development softwares, the casinos also have a security network that deals with this kind of attempts to their website and once they discover the use of such, they mark your account and restrict some functions, these are part of the reasons you see many abusers reporting casinos on scam accusation board after they were the ones at fault.
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Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

I definitely do not prefer to use a VPN if the country I am in has blocked access to such a website. The reason for this is both not having a problem with the legal process that may occur and the possibility of my account being blocked on the pretext of an access ban in my location. In addition, in the case of using free VPN services unfortunately different problems may arise regarding the IP address selected from the IP pool. For this reason, I am generally against the use of VPN. Regarding access to gambling services for the reasons I stated at the beginning of my message it is among my preferences not to use VPN.
I also think that if the account is blocked as a result of using VPN, there is no refund in any way. In such a case both legal problems may occur and the money transferred here can be blocked without being used in any way.
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Well, I posted this based on a some people trying to use excuses to get out of account bans for using VPNs... knowing that it was illegal in their country and also knowing that it was against the ToS of the site.

Based on the replies to this thread, most people will not risk losing their account balance or their whole account for breaking the rules that are stated in the ToS.

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June 02, 2023, 01:28:44 PM
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No. First, the use of online casino isn't illegal here in my country so I don't need to use VPN just to play. But if I'm in a situation you mentioned where I travel in a country that doesn't allow online gambling, then I won't gamble for the mean time while I'm in that country. I would be only there in that country for a short period of time so I can wait till I can go back home. Also my biggest worry is, it would be hard as a foreigner or someone in a different country to disobey their law just for your own entertainment when it can wait. I don't wanna risk my safety getting arrested just to gamble online. Getting your account blocked or losing your balance is probably bearable.

It may be different for other people, especially if they are brave enough to violate the site's tos and the law.
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Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site.
You will not have a problem if you told the representative you would travel to a country where it's illegal, you just need to submit your KYC and the representative will know you're not lying. This is why you need to communicate with the representative first before you taking an action that would make you in trouble.

As for me I'm not using a VPN because I never travel on a country where it's illegal.

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No. First, the use of online casino isn't illegal here in my country so I don't need to use VPN just to play. But if I'm in a situation you mentioned where I travel in a country that doesn't allow online gambling, then I won't gamble for the mean time while I'm in that country. I would be only there in that country for a short period of time so I can wait till I can go back home. Also my biggest worry is, it would be hard as a foreigner or someone in a different country to disobey their law just for your own entertainment when it can wait. I don't wanna risk my safety getting arrested just to gamble online. Getting your account blocked or losing your balance is probably bearable.

It may be different for other people, especially if they are brave enough to violate the site's tos and the law.

I think there’s a confusion on this topic about the restriction of VPN on casino. Casino usually don’t allowed the use of VPN if it’s being use as way to bypass the country restrictions. On this particular case which the player originally live on country that online gambling is legal, I think the use of VPN is fair since he is not a resident of that particular country. He can always do a KYC with his ID that addressed on his original country also he can use an IP of his original country to play like there’s nothing change on the IP history of his account.

I sometimes claim free spin from slot provider that restricted my country and I support allows this since I’m just using VPN temporarily to claim the rewards. This means sometimes casino overlook the restrictions if the player notify the casino about the specific situation he was on.

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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.
The only risk is when a casino does not allow it but you should be careful cause casinos terms can change from allowing the use of VPN to prohibiting their users from using it

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Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.
All concerns about the use of VPN when traveling should be on record with support if you failed to do this, you have no defense to present when they disable your account.

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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Definitely not, I have seen a huge amount of money coming from players and they cannot withdraw it because of a violation of the use of a VPN, if they do not allow it, refrain from using a VPN, and control yourself so you can protect your account.

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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
I wouldn't, because I care for my account and the money I have deposited there. It would be a dumb idea to use VPN knowing it's against the rules of the platform, since it will end in account freezed and funds confiscated without any chances of recovering it, since it was stated on their terms and I, as an user, agreed with them when signing up on the website.

When travelling to a country where your favorite platform isn't allowed, you should go for an alternative one, or wait until coming back home to play again there. And in case you live in a country where you can't access a casino you think it's amazing, I fear there is no other alternative, besides finding something else which is allows your region to join in. With so many virtual casinos nowadays, I think it's not a big issue...

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June 02, 2023, 03:17:04 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
If ToS is clearly not allowed, then it's better to comply with choosing another casino that allows VPN use because now there are many online casinos to choose from, just be careful enough not to choose a bad casino, some casinos still allow its use, or look for an alternative casino that has a mirror site so I don't need a VPN at all to access it.
Once I experienced something unpleasant due to using a VPN, the casino asked me to do KYC to prove there was no multi-account and was lucky to get through it because the money held up was a value that I couldn't afford to lose so I had no other choice but to do what the casino ordered.

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June 02, 2023, 03:28:51 PM
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Well, I posted this based on a some people trying to use excuses to get out of account bans for using VPNs... knowing that it was illegal in their country and also knowing that it was against the ToS of the site.

Based on the replies to this thread, most people will not risk losing their account balance or their whole account for breaking the rules that are stated in the ToS.

I think most of the comment here is from user that online gambling is allowed. They don’t feel this kind of restriction that’s why it’s easy for them to give an opinion like that since it’s just hypothetical.

But like gambling experience which everything is different on actual. I get the point why people on restricted country still risking playing using VPN since they doesn’t have a choice to play aside from breaking their rules. Like using an illegal drugs, People will always find a way to use a service that is not allowed on their country especially if it’s a great source of entertainment.

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June 02, 2023, 03:42:52 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

I always wanted to be on the safe side.  I'd rather control myself from using VPN if ever I went to a place where restricted by the platform.  The fund and the platform is always there waiting for us to access but to be in a safer situation, keeping ourselves clean from using VPN if the casino forbids us to use VPN will save us from future problems.

If they block my account for using VPN while it is stated on their TOS that the use of VPN is forbidden, then there is nothing to do except request the casino to return my deposits if ever there is still left on my account and accept the punishment, it was my fault for using the forbidden software so there is nothing to argue about it.

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June 02, 2023, 03:55:50 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

I always wanted to be on the safe side.  I'd rather control myself from using VPN if ever I went to a place where restricted by the platform.  The fund and the platform is always there waiting for us to access but to be in a safer situation, keeping ourselves clean from using VPN if the casino forbids us to use VPN will save us from future problems.

If they block my account for using VPN while it is stated on their TOS that the use of VPN is forbidden, then there is nothing to do except request the casino to return my deposits if ever there is still left on my account and accept the punishment, it was my fault for using the forbidden software so there is nothing to argue about it.

However, I don't believe it will be a good idea. Some people are still utilizing VPNs to get over the limits. In the near term, utilizing a VPN might be fun, but there could be negative effects later on. It would be better to abide the rules than break it because we might be putting our accounts at risk which could also affect our funds in the future.
There are some instances wherein some casinos allow VPN usage but most of them restrict it. If a casino of my choice would not allow VPN usage, then I will just look for a reliable and reputable site where I won't be needing to use VPNs. It's better to play freely without any doubt and fear of having our accounts restricted.
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