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June 03, 2023, 05:20:45 PM
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

There are several reasons people use a VPN when playing at online casinos, the most common reason is because in their country most online gambling sites are blocked and they need a VPN to be able to access these gambling sites. I personally use a VPN to access gambling sites through my browser and fortunately the ToS on my gambling platform they say not prohibit their users to use VPN, only that they require KYC to do WD. It's pretty annoying, but I'm okay with that because I can get around it LOL.

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June 03, 2023, 05:38:47 PM
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.
Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.
Accessing gambling sites using vpn is definitely high risk for gambling there. Because if for some reason there is a problem with the account or if the fund is locked, you cannot withdraw dollars from there. and if you are using free vpn then your account may show different ip in login details due to proxy not working well which may affect your account.

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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Normally I don't try to access a site via vpn if that casino site is banned for my country. Because there are many casino sites in the market which are valid for my country and can be used without vpn. so why should I try to access a site via vpn? But I won't say that I have never used vpn for casino sites. But I did it very rarely to use the high bonus of some new sites. But it is better not to use sites that require vpn for regular gambling



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June 03, 2023, 11:36:19 PM
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Me either but if they allow it then that's a good rule. But mostly, we want to obey what the rules are and what they're saying. We don't want to compromise our funds leaving on these casinos but if you're okay to do that, you're up to make your own choices.

You have to really think about the funds that will go to the casino if VPN use is not allowed. There are still many online casinos that you can choose from. Choose the best and just allow it. Some Casinos say their TOS do not allow VPNs, but actually they still accept the use of VPNs. Everything is a personal choice.



And while that's true, there are still plenty of people that don't know about that fact with these free VPNs.

Facts about free VPNs are even quite common, if some don't know they certainly need to read a lot of Tos or the impact of using a free VPN. What is recommended is the use of a premium VPN and it requires paying a subscription fee.

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June 03, 2023, 11:49:10 PM
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Casino typically don’t ban the use VPN if it’s not being use to avoid country restrictions or to have multiple account for promotion abused. Some casino mention specifically the restriction of VPN but their main goal here to discourage those players from restricted country to play in the casino. I think your account will be safe if you live on country that allowed to play in casino even you use VPN because I always use VPN when I’m gambling because I have premium subscription.
Banning VPN wouldn't make any sense. Because you obviously can use it. If you provide information where you prove you are not form restricted country you'll be fine. I however don't use it in casinos as there might be an issue where o am sharing ip with someone and get banned automatically for double account. I feel like that would be too much hassle to use my time to prove that i happened to use same vpn as some other account.

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June 04, 2023, 03:51:53 AM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
If stated on the casino's ToS that the use of VPN is not allowed then I will not risk my account because it can cause future problems if caught. There are casinos not prohibiting the use of VPN, and there are games that I can't access here in our country due to the provider's restriction but I opted not to bypass it to be able to play.

It would be better to follow the rules of the casino to prevent having headaches and worries. Because if you happen to win huge, certainly there's a procedure to follow for you to withdraw your winnings. Hence, if you violate any rules stated on their ToS, it's going to be a problem and your fault for not following it.

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Me either but if they allow it then that's a good rule. But mostly, we want to obey what the rules are and what they're saying. We don't want to compromise our funds leaving on these casinos but if you're okay to do that, you're up to make your own choices.
You have to really think about the funds that will go to the casino if VPN use is not allowed. There are still many online casinos that you can choose from. Choose the best and just allow it. Some Casinos say their TOS do not allow VPNs, but actually they still accept the use of VPNs. Everything is a personal choice.
although casinos allow the use of VPN, I personally prefer not to take this risk. In the past, maybe I often used VPN, but after seeing several problems, someone won big, then the account was blocked and the funds were confiscated on the grounds that the IP did not match the KYC data provided, so the casino detected this as scam activity.
therefore I prefer to avoid using a VPN but it all depends on each person who wants to use it. because it is true what @kamvreto said there are still many casino options that can be accessed freely without country restrictions.

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June 04, 2023, 04:57:44 AM
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There are several reasons people use a VPN when playing at online casinos, the most common reason is because in their country most online gambling sites are blocked and they need a VPN to be able to access these gambling sites. I personally use a VPN to access gambling sites through my browser and fortunately the ToS on my gambling platform they say not prohibit their users to use VPN, only that they require KYC to do WD. It's pretty annoying, but I'm okay with that because I can get around it LOL.

This is true, this is what is happening in my country where most online casinos are blocked by ISP. Although there is other way to access these online casinos because of the block by ISP, but VPN can be said as the most effective one to bypass ISP blocks. If the casinos is not allowing players to use VPN, they should provide mirror links like what is provided by Stake. I used to use VPN in the past but it seems that these days casinos are more strict about this thing. What we need to do now is to read ToS and/or ask support about VPN, if it is not allowed so we should avoid to use VPN unless we are ready to take the worst risk.

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June 04, 2023, 05:19:40 AM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Well there are other sites as well where those countries are not banned, so why not play there? There are lot of options around. That option might not be as better as you usually use but at least you can have the gambling experience if you are away.

Everything has its pros and cons and VPN has that too. One might use it in order to make the site accessible when he is away but lot of gamblers use it to play while in restricted zone, there are some who continuously try to abuse the Bonus that casino offers, some try to play in the casino while they are banned, even some of them are hackers too. I think nowadays the gamblers are just abusing it and casino has to defend themselves there.

In regards to your question, I personally try to play in casinos where I am allowed and luckily there are lot of reputed casinos that allow my zone so I don't have to worry about using VPN while using a casino or a sportsbook platform. About the "block & confiscate", I agree with blocking since its the service they are providing and they can do anything with the account but I don't like that idea of confiscating at all. Any casino confiscating deposit (not profit) is just scamming their users in the name of TOS (avoid such casinos).
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June 04, 2023, 05:31:06 AM
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If VPN usage is prohibited and blocked by the country, the first alternative is to seek other online gambling platforms that have regulations suitable for my current situation. Never take excessive risks in gambling; you have already risked your money to play, so why would you want to risk your gambling winnings again? That would be absurd.

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Banning VPN wouldn't make any sense. Because you obviously can use it. If you provide information where you prove you are not form restricted country you'll be fine. I however don't use it in casinos as there might be an issue where o am sharing ip with someone and get banned automatically for double account. I feel like that would be too much hassle to use my time to prove that i happened to use same vpn as some other account.

I don't see any useful points of using VPN because of you're doing it for privacy then it's a wasted as you'll still be required to submit your KYC before you can withdraw large amount or any amount depending on the casino you're gambling on.

Also to avoid unnecessary situation that'll require you to prove you're not from a restricted country or have double account on the casino. Many people have lost their money because they can't prove they got the wins legitimately. VPN are becoming less useful.

Unless you'll be willing to take the risk or have verified that the casino isn't against the use of VPN and KYC aren't mandatory for all withdrawal then you can use it. It protects your identity in this instance but don't use it when you know you're from a restricted country.

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June 04, 2023, 06:52:16 AM
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There are several reasons people use a VPN when playing at online casinos, the most common reason is because in their country most online gambling sites are blocked and they need a VPN to be able to access these gambling sites. I personally use a VPN to access gambling sites through my browser and fortunately the ToS on my gambling platform they say not prohibit their users to use VPN, only that they require KYC to do WD. It's pretty annoying, but I'm okay with that because I can get around it LOL.

Since the usage of VPN is allowed in the gambling site you are using then there is no issue there, but assuming yours falls under those that don't allow the use of VPN would you still use it?

It's commone sense to always seek out what best suites you and as soon as you start forcing things that are not meant for you to start working for you then you're bound to have some repercussions, same with the casino if you start to force a casino that don't allow it's usage in your country to start working with the use of VPN then it means you're ready for the consequences that follows and one thing I have noticed is that once the casino finds out your behaviour the will wait for you to make some deposit before they block your account.

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June 04, 2023, 07:36:03 AM
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If VPN usage is prohibited and blocked by the country, the first alternative is to seek other online gambling platforms that have regulations suitable for my current situation. Never take excessive risks in gambling; you have already risked your money to play, so why would you want to risk your gambling winnings again? That would be absurd.

In some cases, I prefer using a self-deployed VPS with a Windows operating system and accessing it via Remote Desktop. This method is indeed risky, but I keep my money safe by having an extra wallet to store only a small amount of BTC. Using Remote Desktop is not recommended, and I only use it on the gambling platform I prefer. Of course, this is not something to be emulated.

I have never exposed my primary wallet for gambling purposes, as I prioritize keeping my main funds secure.

I fully agree with you, there are so many different casinos out there that we shouldn't focus only one, especially if that one casino is not allowed in our country or doesn't want to operate here. Why take the big risk of losing our account if using a VPN becomes public? As long as there are alternatives available, I would try to stay within the ToS of the casino and be legal in my own country. Even if you only gamble with small amounts and don't really worry about the consequences, there is always the chance that we manage to get a big win. Imagine you finally beat a jackpot and are unable to withdraw your money because the casino found out you are using a VPN. We shouldn’t take on such big risk already at the start of our gambling careers. Using different wallets is a good idea to add another layer of security to our coins. I like to have one mobile wallet for my online purchases and one online wallet to move money around between casinos. And any larger winnings are stored on a more secure wallet. So far I didn’t have any issues while gambling online and didn’t see the need for a VPN. The casino can also change their ToS over the time creating more uncertainity, that is why in my opinion it's better to only use a VPN if it's really necessary.
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June 04, 2023, 02:58:30 PM
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There are several reasons people use a VPN when playing at online casinos, the most common reason is because in their country most online gambling sites are blocked and they need a VPN to be able to access these gambling sites. I personally use a VPN to access gambling sites through my browser and fortunately the ToS on my gambling platform they say not prohibit their users to use VPN, only that they require KYC to do WD. It's pretty annoying, but I'm okay with that because I can get around it LOL.
Since the usage of VPN is allowed in the gambling site you are using then there is no issue there, but assuming yours falls under those that don't allow the use of VPN would you still use it?

It's commone sense to always seek out what best suites you and as soon as you start forcing things that are not meant for you to start working for you then you're bound to have some repercussions, same with the casino if you start to force a casino that don't allow it's usage in your country to start working with the use of VPN then it means you're ready for the consequences that follows and one thing I have noticed is that once the casino finds out your behaviour the will wait for you to make some deposit before they block your account.
I've never heard of what you said at the end, that a casino that suspects you are going against their terms of services will wait until you make a deposit and then they will block your account, that is totally wrong if casinos really do that. If they already know that I've done a mistake and I won't be allowed to use their platform anymore, they should simply let me know and don't allow me to make any deposits.

I think some of the big and reputable casino platforms allow using VPN, and when you have an issue like you're out of the country or something similar, you should simply ask their support through email about it and if they say that you can use a VPN to access the platform, then you should face no issues.
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June 04, 2023, 05:00:55 PM
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Since there are casinos that allow the use of VPN, I wouldn't try to break their ToS because it's going to only give them ammunition for their guns. What I mean by this is, if you keep losing, they'll allow it and keep pocketing the money, but when you start winning big they'll block your account right after you request to withdraw and give VPN as the reason.

It's only going to hurt you in the long run and for a casino it's all good if you use VPN against their rules. It's free money for them, so keep doing it!

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June 04, 2023, 05:40:25 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Some people other than the unique case narrated by the OP like drop and wouldn't mind if their account is suspended or ban, a loss of their funds in the casino wallet or whatever other issues that follows when they violate the rules contained in a casinos' Terms of Service (ToS). Unless a person can withstand the troubles that comes with it, there is absolutely no need to use a VPN if it is not allowed. Look for a casino that allows the use of VPN and play there.

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June 04, 2023, 05:47:53 PM
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Even though my country is not legal for gambling sites, but we can still access online casinos without using a VPN, for now I prefer to avoid online casinos that must be accessed through the VPN feature, even though it's a paid VPN, of course it's not 100% safe even though it's paid, you still have to be careful about using a VPN because the risk of privacy tracking is potentially huge.

If I personally prefer to avoid using a VPN in gambling, I know that Profiling is often abused by third parties in our activities, as well as intrusion of malware in VPN features a greater risk, not to mention data theft through phishing, not to mention the other dangers caused by using a VPN such as slow internet networks, for this reason using a VPN is not a solution for me in carrying out gambling activities, I prefer to avoid problems in the future, just because of online gambling.

Even though VPNs are widely used by those who gamble at online casinos, it's their choice, for sure I've never used them, the cost of repairing a computer is greater than a free or paid VPN.

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June 04, 2023, 05:49:42 PM
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It's just not worth it, unless you have no other way to gamble.
I'll give you an example. If I were living in a country that doesn't allow gambling at all and blocks all gambling sites, I'd have to use VPN to connect to most services. In such case I'd look for a casino that doesn't go hard on VPN users and try playing there.

I'm not in such situation so there's no need for me to do it.

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June 04, 2023, 06:43:14 PM
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There are several reasons people use a VPN when playing at online casinos, the most common reason is because in their country most online gambling sites are blocked and they need a VPN to be able to access these gambling sites. I personally use a VPN to access gambling sites through my browser and fortunately the ToS on my gambling platform they say not prohibit their users to use VPN, only that they require KYC to do WD. It's pretty annoying, but I'm okay with that because I can get around it LOL.
Since the usage of VPN is allowed in the gambling site you are using then there is no issue there, but assuming yours falls under those that don't allow the use of VPN would you still use it?

It's commone sense to always seek out what best suites you and as soon as you start forcing things that are not meant for you to start working for you then you're bound to have some repercussions, same with the casino if you start to force a casino that don't allow it's usage in your country to start working with the use of VPN then it means you're ready for the consequences that follows and one thing I have noticed is that once the casino finds out your behaviour the will wait for you to make some deposit before they block your account.
I've never heard of what you said at the end, that a casino that suspects you are going against their terms of services will wait until you make a deposit and then they will block your account, that is totally wrong if casinos really do that. If they already know that I've done a mistake and I won't be allowed to use their platform anymore, they should simply let me know and don't allow me to make any deposits.

I think some of the big and reputable casino platforms allow using VPN, and when you have an issue like you're out of the country or something similar, you should simply ask their support through email about it and if they say that you can use a VPN to access the platform, then you should face no issues.

Believe it or not, that may be happening even until now. It's a douche move but it's something that a casino can do if they are trying to be extra stingy about the situation. Not every casino does this, but those who do are sure to have the name of their platform plastered across the forum for doing such shitty service against the users of their platform.

If you know that there are things that you are doing that are basically against the casinos rule, better stay away from it for a while before you deposit again because you'll never know.

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June 04, 2023, 06:53:04 PM
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Of course not, why do I need to break the rule just for me to play in that casino? there is a lot of casinos everywhere in which I can play. Not following their rule will only give me problem in the future so better not to risk and try things that are not approve in ToS, and above all ToS should be read first in order for us not to abide all rules and will not cause issues in the future.
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Often the terms and conditions do not specifically say anything about a VPN, but they do refer to it in indirect ways. Then it simply says that you are not allowed to play with multiple players via the same IP address. This is basically the same as using a VPN. I think there are secretly still players who use a VPN. what should you do differently if you would like to gamble in a country where it is actually not allowed? Then the choices become quite limited of course and you have to make a choice. Of course, it can also go well for a while if you start gambling with a VPN.

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