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June 02, 2023, 04:37:38 PM
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I can't see anything LDL has left to explain.
After a little thought, I think that @OP should get his money, so I stand with Yahoo's comment.
Follow these instructions, post your refund BTC add, get your money, and create a new account if you want to continue in the forum.

What you can do Listen very closely is

a. Post your btc address
b. Get a refund
c. log out if your account
d. make a new account not in any way related to the 1 you are on now
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As for @LDL, I think that something strange is happening, but it is not the appropriate place for such discussions. Either someone creates a new topic related to this story, or the current proof is sent to the campaign manager.

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June 02, 2023, 04:57:06 PM
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Alhamdulillah. Today is our holy Friday Jumuah here. I was busy in namaz so I could not reply you in time. Hope I will reply you.

Why is it that scammers often take refuge in religious proclamations when exposed?  Insha'allah you're are telling the truth, but I'm sorry to say that when I first saw this post I suspected you were lying.  Then notscam420 posted some very compelling circumstantial evidence, and so did lovesmayfamilis.  If you'll notice neither of those members are in my trust inclusions because I often think they are over zealous in their search for cheaters, and I tend to be very cautious and distrusting of their reports.  In this case, however I think they might be on to something. 

The way you reacted to the pumpkin carving accusation compared to the way you're reacting here are very different, almost polar opposites.  From one extreme to the other, but both reactions point to guilt.  I don't see any compelling evidence to justify a red-tag just yet, but I'm starting to believe you deserve one.

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June 02, 2023, 06:53:05 PM
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I tried to go through LDL's post history to see if he's active in bursting multiple accounts and scammers here in the forum, because that could be one of the reasons why someone would want to try to ruin another person's reputation here in the forum for some kind of a petty revenge or so.

So from everything that has transpired here today, it is possible for someone to just go through my profile pickup of the addresses I have posted here in the forum, create two telegram account named it "Cantsay" and then forged a conversation as if I went into trade with him adding the address in the conversation (just as in Op) and then deliberately send money to the account, This could be what possibly occured here.

It's kind of scary if this hypothesis was to be true, about scammers forging proof to get you tagged by others.

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June 02, 2023, 07:03:31 PM
Last edit: June 02, 2023, 07:13:53 PM by dkbit98
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Coins should be returned to original sender, BUT that doesn't mean everything should end with that.

I just searched the wallet address you provided and I was shocked to see that it was connected to a different account, I search scanned Blockchain.com to see if the wallet had only one transaction history or more and to also try to check if I'd see any connections with Topman but unfortunately it was connected to someone else.
This address was used several times so I am assuming this is not the first time someone pretended to sell accounts.
I think there is zero chances someone would intentionally pick exactly this address posted from LDL, especially since he doesn't have any reputation in forum like he claims and he exchanged merits with topman21.
This is obviously one of his his alt accounts:


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=LDL&from=topman21

It took a while longer to post because I thought about this for a long time and did some investigation. I find a lot of similarities here with topman21 with LDL.  I'm posting some evidence here so you can check it out a bit.
Sorry for ruining someone religious day, but this is clear evidence of multi-accounting and probably similar scamming cheating behavior.

The way you reacted to the pumpkin carving accusation compared to the way you're reacting here are very different, almost polar opposites.  From one extreme to the other, but both reactions point to guilt.  I don't see any compelling evidence to justify a red-tag just yet, but I'm starting to believe you deserve one.
Please don't tell me he participated in Pizza contest as well?  Roll Eyes
Oh wait a minute, he did someone want to check hand witting styles?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247383.msg62316058#msg62316058

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June 02, 2023, 08:56:50 PM
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The above address is mine but today someone sent 40 dollars (BTC) using my address.
But surprisingly someone has used my address to destroy my reputation. I know nothing about this.
Can you explain more details? How can someone use your address to ruin your reputation? Has your wallet been emptied, or is it that $40?
It's a strange coincidence, so try to explain in detail, otherwise you will be accused.

Huge, there are different kinds of drama in Bitcointalk, but stumbling on this post has exposed me to a totally different and new drama.
An address was used for scam, the address was rightly funded and has been in use and we are saying about someone wanting to ruin his reputation?
Well, LDL would have escaped this but more evidences and connections are unfolding.

Another drama is a newbie wanting to buy account, got scammed and was lucky to get this money back Grin Obviously the luckiest person I have seen in Bitcointalk.
Even yahoo62278 had to tell him the process to start again with a new account. Indeed BTT is now very lenient and accommodating. I remember how tough it was in my newbie days.

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June 02, 2023, 09:37:00 PM
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At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him. 

That is cheating. And I wouldn't be surprised if you end up getting some nice red paints on your profile because of it. Just because you are poor doesn't mean you have to cheat, because we have many poor people in the forum that acting in an honest way have managed to earn money with signature campaigns and other activities that is above the average salary of their country.
I do frown at the idea of having to buy an account but if we're to be logical following forum rules there's no illegality in the purchasing of an account only that the forum discourages members from doing so. And I sense that part of the reasons for that among others is to encourage originality amongst forum members.

As for the young man that has ended up falling victim of account sell scam I believe you have all it takes to build an account of yours from the scratch wether you're poor or not isn't an excuse, it's just quite unfortunate that you had to lose money that you don't even have. A lesson learnt!

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June 02, 2023, 10:01:30 PM
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I can't see anything LDL has left to explain.
After a little thought, I think that @OP should get his money, so I stand with Yahoo's comment.
Follow these instructions, post your refund BTC add, get your money, and create a new account if you want to continue in the forum.

Good Morning

Sorry for the delay reply. i was sleep Because here was night. I agree with you and I am giving my bitcoin address here to get my bitcoin back.  But my question is where, there is clear evidence that the recent LDL by the name of topman21 stole my money, will he have no punishment here?
Here we can see that a person called notscam420 has given clear proof that LDL is totally connected with topman21 and he has been doing various activities in this forum with Hugh account.  But here I was cheated and I was given red tag but topman21/LDL was a thief and everything was forgiven.  what kind of judgment.

Here is my Bitcoin address : 33cvKN2B3nrntP3uYA1eVGfqiQtCK6xRuG


Coins should be returned to original sender, BUT that doesn't mean everything should end with that.
Such incident may happen again with someone else so it needs appropriate punishment. I am a newbie so you guys know which one would be better.  I leave it up to you.  But do something so that no one else who sees this incident dares to do such a thing. Thanks for your visit and oversight
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June 02, 2023, 10:19:02 PM
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Here is my Bitcoin address : 33cvKN2B3nrntP3uYA1eVGfqiQtCK6xRuG

Hello Xavi20 here your funds..

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Here is my Bitcoin address : 33cvKN2B3nrntP3uYA1eVGfqiQtCK6xRuG

Hello Xavi20 here your funds..

Tx: 41cd90f5888210e4503cd8c7061e86d4a60e94ded56cefd4870c0b5e5ffc9fc5

You got caught cheating so returned the bitcoins. If you could hide the crime, would you decide to return them? why did you tried to deceive me? I want to know the answer from you. I will forgive you on my behalf but I am curious to know what is the secret behind your deception.  please tell
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June 03, 2023, 01:08:24 AM
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You got caught cheating so returned the bitcoins. If you could hide the crime, would you decide to return them? why did you tried to deceive me? I want to know the answer from you. I will forgive you on my behalf but I am curious to know what is the secret behind your deception.  please tell

You have been given very good advice above and another colleague has repeated it. I wouldn't have done it, as it's easy to find out for yourself and I'm not in favour of making it easy for those who want to cheat on the forum from the start to make money.

However, I see that you are not following the good advice you have been given, which is that now that you have been returned the money, you log out, forget about this account and go on with your life.

If LDL has cheated the community will take care of him. He's already have a neutral tag so far, and the problem for him is that it is not the same to create an account again if you are a newbie like you, than if you are a Sr Member who is monetising it like him, as it can take you at least 10 months to create an account again and start getting paid the same amount if everything goes well.

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But here I was cheated and I was given red tag but topman21/LDL was a thief and everything was forgiven.  what kind of judgment

Op, I don't think you are in any position to pass judgement here, right from the start you were the same person who messed up,decided to buy an account and ended up loosing your money to a scam. You should be grateful that good members of the forum *yahoo62278* and others, helped you out and made sure that your money was returned, (if the whole story is even true) but instead here you are insisting on what should be done. I don't know if you made this whole stuff up though because the story looks cooked.


You got caught cheating so returned the bitcoins. If you could hide the crime, would you decide to return them? why did you tried to deceive me? I want to know the answer from you. I will forgive you on my behalf but I am curious to know what is the secret behind your deception.  please tell

I still don't know what else you are trying to get here op, your Money has been returned please kindly lock this thread as I don't think anyone would be interested in continuing this discussion. You can maybe continue your chat with him on telegram if you so want to speak with him and consider locking this thread okay


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Sir I will tell you something whether you believe it or not, you must know the truth.

If I (LDL) and Topman21 were the same user, would I (LDL) have harmed myself? I almost lost my account as a hero member. Why should I use my own account which is already entered in the campaign of Hhampuz reputed manager sir. I told all my true story to my community's biggest trusted user Little Mouse brother. I know you won't believe me right now. But the truth is that I was just a victim of a conspiracy. Analyze the matter more deeply with your wise judgment and protect me from this conspiracy.

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June 03, 2023, 01:24:13 AM
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Sir I will tell you something whether you believe it or not, you must know the truth.

If I (LDL) and Topman21 were the same user, would I (LDL) have harmed myself? I almost lost my account as a hero member. Why should I use my own account which is already entered in the campaign of Hhampuz reputed manager sir. I told all my true story to my community's biggest trusted user Little Mouse brother. I know you won't believe me right now. But the truth is that I was just a victim of a conspiracy. Analyze the matter more deeply with your wise judgment and protect me from this conspiracy.

Well, I haven't tagged you because I see reasonable doubts and the only tag I can see in your profile is a neutral one, so it doesn't do harm. Even if you get just one or maybe up to two negative ones it will depend on Hhampuz's judgement on the case if he lets you stay in the campaign. But just as I have reasonable doubts on one side, I have reasonable doubts on the other, just by your explanations I cannot know that you are innocent.

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This is a very complex issues, we all knows the truth but because there's no way account will be connected without any relationship between them either by from same locality. Maybe from one group, because I believe too well that there are lot of people who were introduced to this forum through a friend, brother and so on but due to their ignorant one might send funds to each other thinking is a free place without knowing they are endangering themselves.
The truth is from some post shared here you would know there is something phishy about the whole story but I am glade he LDL has refunded the op.
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Last edit: June 03, 2023, 10:28:47 PM by Mr. Big
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Sir I will tell you something whether you believe it or not, you must know the truth.

If I (LDL) and Topman21 were the same user, would I (LDL) have harmed myself? I almost lost my account as a hero member. Why should I use my own account which is already entered in the campaign of Hhampuz reputed manager sir. I told all my true story to my community's biggest trusted user Little Mouse brother. I know you won't believe me right now. But the truth is that I was just a victim of a conspiracy. Analyze the matter more deeply with your wise judgment and protect me from this conspiracy.

Well, I haven't tagged you because I see reasonable doubts and the only tag I can see in your profile is a neutral one, so it doesn't do harm. Even if you get just one or maybe up to two negative ones it will depend on Hhampuz's judgement on the case if he lets you stay in the campaign. But just as I have reasonable doubts on one side, I have reasonable doubts on the other, just by your explanations I cannot know that you are innocent.

lovesmayfamilis said he know about this guy as well and about his all activists, alts etc. he will be here soon with strong evidence. we should wait for it.




Sir I will tell you something whether you believe it or not, you must know the truth.

If I (LDL) and Topman21 were the same user, would I (LDL) have harmed myself? I almost lost my account as a hero member. Why should I use my own account which is already entered in the campaign of Hhampuz reputed manager sir. I told all my true story to my community's biggest trusted user Little Mouse brother. I know you won't believe me right now. But the truth is that I was just a victim of a conspiracy. Analyze the matter more deeply with your wise judgment and protect me from this conspiracy.
You have not intentionally linked your topman21 account to LDL. you have done this unknowingly because it is very difficult to run multiple accounts at once and build them all separately. you went to scam with topman21 account because it was red tagged account. but you forgot to use Hughes account that you used this wallet once in LDL. so you got caught. now after being caught, you is arranging various kinds of drama. that's why you don't have any valid and clear answer and you resort to many excuses
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Last edit: June 03, 2023, 03:46:26 AM by LDL
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Why have I been framed?

I will tell you the whole story of this plot, so you can easily understand how I was framed here.

The incident happened a long time ago when a manager named "Kakatua" was running a forum project with his multi account group. Then a famous user of my Bengali community "invincible49" introduced the Kakatua group as a multi group. And their accounts are given negative trust for the offense of multiple accounts.
Since then, the "Kakatua" group has developed a grudge against invincible49, and the revenge of that grudge is the current event.

The Kakatua group didn't stop after getting feedback from 34 other accounts including kakatua. From then on began the "SmallRabbit" management fraud. Their journey could not go far. Invincible stops them from cheating and destroys the entire group by putting them under a penalty.

Since then he distanced himself from Bounty Manager and started his journey with a bought account "Smartaction" and he started working on a reputable campaign. But even from there invincible49 caught him and managed to get the account back to its original owner.

In each case invincible49 then plays a role in delivering the cheating cycle.

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate.  As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself. Actually I am caught in an invisible web of deception. Please think about it and then decide. I am waiting for your decision.

Proof :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54059655#msg54059655
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg54075994#msg54075994
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54403983#msg54403983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248670.msg54448749#msg54448749
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57621003#msg57621003
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351159.msg57633244#msg57633244
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57640947#msg57640947
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58402850#msg58402850

Kakatua(34+ accounts)
SmallRabbit
Smartaction
Topman21 (Dramatically destroyed this account just to punish LDL and Invincible49).
notscam420
Xavi20

All his schemes have been betrayed by invincible49 and he wants to take invisible revenge by thinking of me as invincible49.  Kakatua/Xavi20/SmallRabbit/Smartaction/topman21/notscam420 has proof of hundreds of scams in the links above.

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June 03, 2023, 04:20:52 AM
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topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on Bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.  At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him.  Our contract was 80$ he blocked me after I paid 40$ earlier.  what can i do now  help me  How can I get my money back?

topman21 profile - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=365922
He wanted to sell me an account called Dimitri94: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417917
BTC address: bc1qah37sm35g509yjs00g4ddyjxtvwcfvqc42h4w2ku9p6uzeazssxqldjdau
paid amount: 40$ BTC
txID : bd17673364e3247eb57d8853aa4ff024a0926d7afbd789a1142d99e7a046085d
Blockchain explorer: https://explorer.btc.com/btc/transaction/bd17673364e3247eb57d8853aa4ff024a0926d7afbd789a1142d99e7a046085d


Hi @Xavi20,
Buying or selling accounts is against the terms of service of most platforms, including Bitcointalk, and can lead to various risks and scams. Here are a few reasons why buying an account is considered a risky practice:

- Violation of terms of service.
- Lack of control.
- Potential for scams.
- Security risks.

Note; It's one kind of Scam Accusation.

Special thanks to @yahoo62278, @Little Mouse, and @LDL Vai to give him a positive response to getting back his lost money. Also many many thanks  @Cuenta Alternativa, @Don Pedro Dinero, @hugeblack, @Cantsay, @Onyeeze, @8rch7, @Ultegra134, @hugeblack, @Dunamisx, @T3PR00T, @ Ultegra134, @Solosanz, and others.
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Why have I been framed?

I will tell you the whole story of this plot, so you can easily understand how I was framed here.

The incident happened a long time ago when a manager named "Kakatua" was running a forum project with his multi account group. Then a famous user of my Bengali community "invincible49" introduced the Kakatua group as a multi group. And their accounts are given negative trust for the offense of multiple accounts.
Since then, the "Kakatua" group has developed a grudge against invincible49, and the revenge of that grudge is the current event.

The Kakatua group didn't stop after getting feedback from 34 other accounts including kakatua. From then on began the "SmallRabbit" management fraud. Their journey could not go far. Invincible stops them from cheating and destroys the entire group by putting them under a penalty.

Since then he distanced himself from Bounty Manager and started his journey with a bought account "Smartaction" and he started working on a reputable campaign. But even from there invincible49 caught him and managed to get the account back to its original owner.

In each case invincible49 then plays a role in delivering the cheating cycle.

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate.  As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself. Actually I am caught in an invisible web of deception. Please think about it and then decide. I am waiting for your decision.

Proof :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54059655#msg54059655
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg54075994#msg54075994
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54403983#msg54403983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248670.msg54448749#msg54448749
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57621003#msg57621003
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351159.msg57633244#msg57633244
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57640947#msg57640947
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58402850#msg58402850

Kakatua(34+ accounts)
SmallRabbit
Smartaction
Topman21 (Dramatically destroyed this account just to punish LDL and Invincible49).
notscam420
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A very beautiful story. It beats the movie. but you may not understand that there is no logic in this post. you did this to avoid everyone noticing you. and let everyone ignore your scam and discuss the old story. nothing can be proven true with such a story. your post has no evidence of any connection between me and the victim with Kakatua, Small Rabbit.  So I don't think it is logical to say anything random without proof here.


All his schemes have been betrayed by invincible49 and he wants to take invisible revenge by thinking of me as invincible49.  Kakatua/Xavi20/SmallRabbit/Smartaction/topman21/notscam420 has proof of hundreds of scams in the links above.

ops man maybe you forget that there are money alt connection Between topman21 not only me  Grin I want to help you by giving you some topman21 alts.  I want to help you by giving you some topman21 alts. Let me put bamboo in my own ass  Tongue

Proof 1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404539.msg61501027#msg61501027


Proof 2 :

Connection Between topman21 & Rigon
Account Connected :
topman21 [ Legendary Member ]
Rigon [ Sr Member

Bitcointalk Username: Rigon
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119419
Post Count: 2235
btc addy: bc1q2aw48zfc00cafh4tr24zwaxku3e2pxetm69hj9
Forum Rank: Sr. Member
Current Merit: 366
https://ninjastic.space/post/61401302

Bitcointalk Username: Rigon
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119419
Post Count: 2235
btc addy: bc1q2aw48zfc00cafh4tr24zwaxku3e2pxetm69hj9
Forum Rank: Sr. Member
Current Merit: 366
https://ninjastic.space/post/61401335

topman21 apply for WINZ.IO signature campaign with this POA and he Edited post and delete immediately and after 3 minute Rigon apply with same POA post. this two account is completely connected.
A person uses 2 accounts and seems to have mistakenly posted a POA with the wrong account while quickly applying for Signature Campaign , and upon realizing he immediately edited and deleted the previous post. It looks like this person may have more multi accounts



I will help you with more proof very soon.  Can you accept them?  Roll Eyes
Note : i expert my previous question ans from you. kindly ans please
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June 03, 2023, 08:53:50 AM
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All three accounts mentioned by OP have different problems but it would appear OP just made everything up in an attempt to frame these three users. For what reason I don't exactly know.

Of course anyone could pretend to be topman21 on Telegram, or any other user. There's no proof that this is who OP was talking to, if he was even talking to anyone besides himself.
The whole stuff sounds like a framed-up story for retaliation.Anyone can claim to be someone they are not on telegram just to make sure they get at someone who once got them hurting years back. 

According to LDL, this is what he thinks led to the frame-up.

Why have I been framed?

I will tell you the whole story of this plot, so you can easily understand how I was framed here.

The incident happened a long time ago when a manager named "Kakatua" was running a forum project with his multi account group. Then a famous user of my Bengali community "invincible49" introduced the Kakatua group as a multi group. And their accounts are given negative trust for the offense of multiple accounts.
Since then, the "Kakatua" group has developed a grudge against invincible49, and the revenge of that grudge is the current event.

The Kakatua group didn't stop after getting feedback from 34 other accounts including kakatua. From then on began the "SmallRabbit" management fraud. Their journey could not go far. Invincible stops them from cheating and destroys the entire group by putting them under a penalty.

Since then he distanced himself from Bounty Manager and started his journey with a bought account "Smartaction" and he started working on a reputable campaign. But even from there invincible49 caught him and managed to get the account back to its original owner.

In each case invincible49 then plays a role in delivering the cheating cycle.

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate.  As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.
Unfortunately, LDL was on their list to get back at. I can't say whether the story LDL tells is the truth or not but whichever way, this sounds like a framed story to me just to get back at LDL

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June 03, 2023, 09:00:51 AM
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My only question is why someone offered to buy an account on Xavi20's telegram and immediately he agreed to buy an active account without any justification. Moreover he agreed to sell the active account for only $40. Topman21 from fake telegram gave someone else's address and you sent dollars to that address without any justification. I will say this again as always if I had an alternative account with Topman21 why would I waste my good account for only $40. Which I've been getting from a signature campaign every week.

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