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June 03, 2023, 09:44:15 AM
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Why have I been framed?

I will tell you the whole story of this plot, so you can easily understand how I was framed here.

The incident happened a long time ago when a manager named "Kakatua" was running a forum project with his multi account group. Then a famous user of my Bengali community "invincible49" introduced the Kakatua group as a multi group. And their accounts are given negative trust for the offense of multiple accounts.
Since then, the "Kakatua" group has developed a grudge against invincible49, and the revenge of that grudge is the current event.

The Kakatua group didn't stop after getting feedback from 34 other accounts including kakatua. From then on began the "SmallRabbit" management fraud. Their journey could not go far. Invincible stops them from cheating and destroys the entire group by putting them under a penalty.

Since then he distanced himself from Bounty Manager and started his journey with a bought account "Smartaction" and he started working on a reputable campaign. But even from there invincible49 caught him and managed to get the account back to its original owner.

In each case invincible49 then plays a role in delivering the cheating cycle.

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate.  As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself. Actually I am caught in an invisible web of deception. Please think about it and then decide. I am waiting for your decision.

Proof :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54059655#msg54059655
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg54075994#msg54075994
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54403983#msg54403983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248670.msg54448749#msg54448749
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57621003#msg57621003
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351159.msg57633244#msg57633244
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57640947#msg57640947
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58402850#msg58402850

Kakatua(34+ accounts)
SmallRabbit
Smartaction
Topman21 (Dramatically destroyed this account just to punish LDL and Invincible49).
notscam420
Xavi20

All his schemes have been betrayed by invincible49 and he wants to take invisible revenge by thinking of me as invincible49.  Kakatua/Xavi20/SmallRabbit/Smartaction/topman21/notscam420 has proof of hundreds of scams in the links above.

Quoting it.

Anything is possible in Bitcointalk.

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June 03, 2023, 09:44:50 AM
Last edit: June 03, 2023, 10:04:22 AM by John Abraham
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What's happening in the forum? Every day you wake up and see new drama on the reputation board. We end up fighting each other and criticizing others for their opinion. At first, It looked like LDL was guilty of doing something. There is no proof that Topman is LDL. I am curious how OP contacted Topman. How did you find his telegram? Did you give them his telegram handle in the forum PM? If so, Share a screenshot, please. I have some questions.

1- Why will someone nearly a Hero member rank scam someone for $40?
2- The address topman telegram account gave to OP was publicly posted in the forum. If it was LDL, Why would he give the same address to an account buyer? I guess he spent enough time in the forum to know that anyone can search for the address and check if this address was used in this forum. It's easy to find the address owner through Ninjastic.

40$ is very big amount for me.

Op said $40 is a big amount for him. But, When LDL offered him back his money, He denied it and started asking questions.

I will not take the money back now. Until we get a clear solution to this problem. I have some personal questions

Huh? It's a big amount and now you don't want the money back until someone ruin his account. What was the purpose of creating this thread? To get your money back? Or something else? looks like he was ready to accuse LDL and waiting for someone to figure out this is LDL's Address. How does a newbie with one activity before this thread know where to create a thread and not make any mistake quoting everyone perfectly? He might be sharp-brained and understand everything very well.

I feel OP is part of the scamming group and trying to ruin someone's account.

I hope I am wrong.

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June 03, 2023, 09:54:46 AM
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From my observation, I still doubt how a Newbie who is barely just a week old on the forum will know of a board called "Reputation" where issues about scam complaints are been discussed/deliberated if he/she is not an alt account. Because for the fact that O.P registered his on "May 26th" and the next day being (May 27th) he went about sending messages to random high rank members of the forum is a clear he must be an already existing member of this forum who knew how the forum works and trying to buy an alt account to maximise his earning just as stated in the chat between him and the seller.




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June 03, 2023, 10:00:05 AM
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What's happening in the forum? Every day you wake up and see new drama on the reputation board. We end up fighting each other and criticizing others for their opinion. At first, It looked like LDL was guilty of doing something. There is no proof that Topman is LDL. I am curious how OP contacted Topman. How did you find his telegram? Did you give them his telegram handle in the forum PM? If so, Share a screenshot, please. I have some questions.

1- Why will someone nearly a Hero member rank scam someone for $40?
2- The address topman telegram account gave to OP was publicly posted in the forum. If it was LDL, Why would he give the same address to an account buyer? I guess he spent enough time in the forum to know that anyone can search for the address and check if this address was used in this forum. It's easy to find the address owner through Ninjastic.

40$ is very big amount for me.

Op said $40 is a big amount for him. But, When LDL offered him back his money, He denied it and started asking questions.

I will not take the money back now. Until we get a clear solution to this problem. I have some personal questions

Huh? It's a big amount and now you don't want the money back until someone ruin his account. It looks like he was ready to accuse LDL and waiting for someone to figure out this is LDL's Address. How does a newbie with one activity before this thread know where to create a thread and not make any mistake quoting everyone perfectly? He might be sharp-brained and understand everything very well.

I feel OP is part of the scamming group and trying to ruin someone's account.

I hope I am wrong.
Xavi20 took the initiative to buy a bitcoin account through a scammer's telegram contact but why someone gave the account address of an active senior member and you immediately sent bitcoins without any verification and within 1 to 2 hours of sending bitcoins you again asked for bitcoin back.  ্্

Xavi20 First asking for bitcoin refund, later I (LDL) Yahoo62278 came to know through personal message and taken decision to refund bitcoin. But later Xavi20 changed his style of play. Later if Xavi20 post bitcoin address I give bitcoin back to that address.

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June 03, 2023, 10:02:22 AM
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I don't know what's really going on here. But I've been reading this thread from last night. I think there was another reason before this case happened. The first post from notscam420 is LDL linked account, it's not normal for a newbie in the first post
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I think there is a personal grudge between them, this is not something that can be resolved on forums. They seemed to already know each other, so there was animosity between them

edited: I think there's something about notscam420 that it attacks LDL so much. I think everyone who has ever been wrong can change, if LDL is accused of having another account, that's in the past, but I see his reputation is good now. That's more important

I support LDL
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June 03, 2023, 10:07:37 AM
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2- The address topman telegram account gave to OP was publicly posted in the forum. If it was LDL, Why would he give the same address to an account buyer? I guess he spent enough time in the forum to know that anyone can search for the address and check if this address was used in this forum. It's easy to find the address owner through Ninjastic.
It takes minimum six months to become a Sr. Member. Depending on activeness, it may take longer. LDL account seems familiar about Reputation and Meta sections. At least ninjastic statistics proves it. He must know finding a used address is just matter of time.

If the address was given by real LDL say just by mistake, he would immediately delete the address and give another one. His excuse could be easier just by saying I gave you a wrong address, please send btc to this new address.

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June 03, 2023, 10:29:14 AM
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I feel OP is part of the scamming group
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He is very suspicious. Besides he didn't want "big money" back, he made all this show first which looks very strange. If we'll look at the transaction he provided for proof of the payment it is a payment from an exchange account (what is clear from the screens as well), so we can't trace his own address. If we'll look at the chat correspondence we can see that he asked to refund his money not giving an address — to where did he want to get a refund? To an exchange address? Looks like a staging. And when he finally gave his address here for a refund we see that it is a totally new address not to be traced.

I don't know about LDL, but what I see doesn't look like proofs to be sure in any guilt on him. Specific style of writing of 2 is natural for Bengali and some other languages in Indian region so it is hardly an evidence of anything.

The entire situation is very strange.

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June 03, 2023, 01:12:05 PM
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My only question is why someone offered to buy an account on Xavi20's telegram and immediately he agreed to buy an active account without any justification. Moreover he agreed to sell the active account for only $40. Topman21 from fake telegram gave someone else's address and you sent dollars to that address without any justification. I will say this again as always if I had an alternative account with Topman21 why would I waste my good account for only $40. Which I've been getting from a signature campaign every week.
ok ok. then to be honest tell us. topman21, Rigon is not your alt?  

Note : something special is coming for you. How many alts you have, all will be taken out. Shit always pops up.....

I always wonder why you always avoid my questions and post like a drunk.. Lol

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June 03, 2023, 01:58:15 PM
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topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.
Xavi20
Please explain...you are new on BTT. You saw his post on bitcoin forum .
Come to the points.
topman21 last active April 09, 2023 about more than 53 days ago.
https://ninjastic.space/user/topman21

Last post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447897.msg62049556#msg62049556

But your account just created 26 May 2023.
Please tell me what Topman21 post made you decide to buy a Bitcoin account.
Topman21 has posted about such account sale somewhere in the forum, can you give some details?

Also, why didn't you share the username of the telegram account of which topman21 you contacted in the screenshot please?
topman21 just used below telegram username in various projects/bounty projects...

1. @topman221
2. @topman21

See ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446956.msg62007229#msg62007229
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401570.msg60321300#msg60321300

Share the Screenshot username of the account you are connected to.

topman21 put his telegram username and bitcoin address in different proof of authentication .You have contacted different fake telegram account without contacting the given telegram account. It's all your trick and you premeditated your plan to put me in danger. I strongly protest and condemn this.

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June 03, 2023, 02:45:46 PM
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topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.
Xavi20
Please explain...you are new on BTT. You saw his post on bitcoin forum .
Come to the points.
topman21 last active April 09, 2023 about more than 53 days ago.
https://ninjastic.space/user/topman21

Last post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447897.msg62049556#msg62049556

But your account just created 26 May 2023.
Please tell me what Topman21 post made you decide to buy a Bitcoin account.
Topman21 has posted about such account sale somewhere in the forum, can you give some details?

Also, why didn't you share the username of the telegram account of which topman21 you contacted in the screenshot please?
topman21 just used below telegram username in various projects/bounty projects...

1. @topman221
2. @topman21

See ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446956.msg62007229#msg62007229
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401570.msg60321300#msg60321300

Share the Screenshot username of the account you are connected to.

topman21 put his telegram username and bitcoin address in different proof of authentication .You have contacted different fake telegram account without contacting the given telegram account. It's all your trick and you premeditated your plan to put me in danger. I strongly protest and condemn this.

You're just fueling the fire by responding to these people. I get that you want to dispute them, but unless they post some solid proof of connections, you should just let this thread die. You repaid the user who sent funds, it's over.

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June 03, 2023, 02:53:07 PM
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topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.
Xavi20
Please explain...you are new on BTT. You saw his post on bitcoin forum .
Come to the points.
topman21 last active April 09, 2023 about more than 53 days ago.
https://ninjastic.space/user/topman21

Last post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447897.msg62049556#msg62049556

But your account just created 26 May 2023.
Please tell me what Topman21 post made you decide to buy a Bitcoin account.
Topman21 has posted about such account sale somewhere in the forum, can you give some details?

Also, why didn't you share the username of the telegram account of which topman21 you contacted in the screenshot please?
topman21 just used below telegram username in various projects/bounty projects...

1. @topman221
2. @topman21

See ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446956.msg62007229#msg62007229
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401570.msg60321300#msg60321300

Share the Screenshot username of the account you are connected to.

topman21 put his telegram username and bitcoin address in different proof of authentication .You have contacted different fake telegram account without contacting the given telegram account. It's all your trick and you premeditated your plan to put me in danger. I strongly protest and condemn this.

You're just fueling the fire by responding to these people. I get that you want to dispute them, but unless they post some solid proof of connections, you should just let this thread die. You repaid the user who sent funds, it's over.
Thanks sir ... I always follow your advice. May God bless you and your family.

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June 03, 2023, 03:38:28 PM
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topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.
Xavi20
Please explain...you are new on BTT. You saw his post on bitcoin forum .
Come to the points.
topman21 last active April 09, 2023 about more than 53 days ago.
https://ninjastic.space/user/topman21

Last post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447897.msg62049556#msg62049556

But your account just created 26 May 2023.
Please tell me what Topman21 post made you decide to buy a Bitcoin account.
Topman21 has posted about such account sale somewhere in the forum, can you give some details?

Also, why didn't you share the username of the telegram account of which topman21 you contacted in the screenshot please?
topman21 just used below telegram username in various projects/bounty projects...

1. @topman221
2. @topman21

See ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446956.msg62007229#msg62007229
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401570.msg60321300#msg60321300

Share the Screenshot username of the account you are connected to.

topman21 put his telegram username and bitcoin address in different proof of authentication .You have contacted different fake telegram account without contacting the given telegram account. It's all your trick and you premeditated your plan to put me in danger. I strongly protest and condemn this.


Topman21 Bitcointalk account is inactive but telegram account @topman221 is always active. So can't scam with Telegram?  Where his account is already worthless.  And he forgot to give one of his wallets which he already used one time in LDL account. because it was not a regular wallet used in LDL.

@topman221 telegram id status : https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/03/wztiw.jpeg
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June 03, 2023, 03:41:48 PM
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topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.
Xavi20
Please explain...you are new on BTT. You saw his post on bitcoin forum .
Come to the points.
topman21 last active April 09, 2023 about more than 53 days ago.
https://ninjastic.space/user/topman21

Last post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447897.msg62049556#msg62049556

But your account just created 26 May 2023.
Please tell me what Topman21 post made you decide to buy a Bitcoin account.
Topman21 has posted about such account sale somewhere in the forum, can you give some details?

Also, why didn't you share the username of the telegram account of which topman21 you contacted in the screenshot please?
topman21 just used below telegram username in various projects/bounty projects...

1. @topman221
2. @topman21

See ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446956.msg62007229#msg62007229
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401570.msg60321300#msg60321300

Share the Screenshot username of the account you are connected to.

topman21 put his telegram username and bitcoin address in different proof of authentication .You have contacted different fake telegram account without contacting the given telegram account. It's all your trick and you premeditated your plan to put me in danger. I strongly protest and condemn this.


Topman21 Bitcointalk account is inactive but telegram account @topman221 is always active. So can't scam with Telegram?  Where his account is already worthless.  And he forgot to give one of his wallets which he already used one time in LDL account. because it was not a regular wallet used in LDL.

@topman221 telegram id status :

It seems among all the people on the thread you have the most interest. What is motivation you so much. You have no history on the forum, nothing to care for but still you are too keen to find something or to be precise too keen to see LDL is down.

Answer ?

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June 03, 2023, 04:53:22 PM
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Why have I been framed?

I will tell you the whole story of this plot, so you can easily understand how I was framed here.

The incident happened a long time ago when a manager named "Kakatua" was running a forum project with his multi account group. Then a famous user of my Bengali community "invincible49" introduced the Kakatua group as a multi group. And their accounts are given negative trust for the offense of multiple accounts.
Since then, the "Kakatua" group has developed a grudge against invincible49, and the revenge of that grudge is the current event.

The Kakatua group didn't stop after getting feedback from 34 other accounts including kakatua. From then on began the "SmallRabbit" management fraud. Their journey could not go far. Invincible stops them from cheating and destroys the entire group by putting them under a penalty.

Since then he distanced himself from Bounty Manager and started his journey with a bought account "Smartaction" and he started working on a reputable campaign. But even from there invincible49 caught him and managed to get the account back to its original owner.

In each case invincible49 then plays a role in delivering the cheating cycle.

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate.  As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself. Actually I am caught in an invisible web of deception. Please think about it and then decide. I am waiting for your decision.

Proof :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54059655#msg54059655
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg54075994#msg54075994
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54403983#msg54403983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248670.msg54448749#msg54448749
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57621003#msg57621003
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351159.msg57633244#msg57633244
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57640947#msg57640947
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58402850#msg58402850

Kakatua(34+ accounts)
SmallRabbit
Smartaction
Topman21 (Dramatically destroyed this account just to punish LDL and Invincible49).
notscam420
Xavi20

All his schemes have been betrayed by invincible49 and he wants to take invisible revenge by thinking of me as invincible49.  Kakatua/Xavi20/SmallRabbit/Smartaction/topman21/notscam420 has proof of hundreds of scams in the links above.

When you weren't under pressure, you could create better stories. You don't have any proofs that the Kakatua group believes you are invincible49.

Topman21's marking by lovesmayfamilis as a sold or hacked account in July 2022 has evidence.

Topman21 was purchased or hacked to punish LDL? Topman21 punished LDL by sending merits? Topman21 punished LDL by making it its favorite to send merits? Topman21 once more punished LDL by sending $40 six months later? What a clever way to exact revenge.
This address was used several times so I am assuming this is not the first time someone pretended to sell accounts.
I think there is zero chances someone would intentionally pick exactly this address posted from LDL, especially since he doesn't have any reputation in forum like he claims and he exchanged merits with topman21.
This is obviously one of his his alt accounts:

https://i.ibb.co/31NRZqp/img54773afee53d6b42b3487c72ec488703.jpg
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=LDL&from=topman21

Alhamdulillah. Today is our holy Friday Jumuah here. I was busy in namaz so I could not reply you in time. Hope I will reply you.

You were busy. Is this the reason you accidentally gave an address associated with LDL?
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June 03, 2023, 05:53:03 PM
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Why have I been framed?

I will tell you the whole story of this plot, so you can easily understand how I was framed here.

The incident happened a long time ago when a manager named "Kakatua" was running a forum project with his multi account group. Then a famous user of my Bengali community "invincible49" introduced the Kakatua group as a multi group. And their accounts are given negative trust for the offense of multiple accounts.
Since then, the "Kakatua" group has developed a grudge against invincible49, and the revenge of that grudge is the current event.

The Kakatua group didn't stop after getting feedback from 34 other accounts including kakatua. From then on began the "SmallRabbit" management fraud. Their journey could not go far. Invincible stops them from cheating and destroys the entire group by putting them under a penalty.

Since then he distanced himself from Bounty Manager and started his journey with a bought account "Smartaction" and he started working on a reputable campaign. But even from there invincible49 caught him and managed to get the account back to its original owner.

In each case invincible49 then plays a role in delivering the cheating cycle.

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate.  As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself. Actually I am caught in an invisible web of deception. Please think about it and then decide. I am waiting for your decision.

Proof :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54059655#msg54059655
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg54075994#msg54075994
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg54403983#msg54403983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248670.msg54448749#msg54448749
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57621003#msg57621003
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351159.msg57633244#msg57633244
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234050.msg57640947#msg57640947
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58402850#msg58402850

Kakatua(34+ accounts)
SmallRabbit
Smartaction
Topman21 (Dramatically destroyed this account just to punish LDL and Invincible49).
notscam420
Xavi20

All his schemes have been betrayed by invincible49 and he wants to take invisible revenge by thinking of me as invincible49.  Kakatua/Xavi20/SmallRabbit/Smartaction/topman21/notscam420 has proof of hundreds of scams in the links above.

When you weren't under pressure, you could create better stories. You don't have any proofs that the Kakatua group believes you are invincible49.

Topman21's marking by lovesmayfamilis as a sold or hacked account in July 2022 has evidence.

Topman21 was purchased or hacked to punish LDL? Topman21 punished LDL by sending merits? Topman21 punished LDL by making it its favorite to send merits? Topman21 once more punished LDL by sending $40 six months later? What a clever way to exact revenge.
Good catch man. LDL is trying to make a lot of plays here.  But again and again the plays he made are failing. and the audience is not liking it. He says that Topman21 carried out a planned attack to harm him. but a little investigation reveals that Topman21 is clearly the alt of LDL. it is very interesting

This address was used several times so I am assuming this is not the first time someone pretended to sell accounts.
I think there is zero chances someone would intentionally pick exactly this address posted from LDL, especially since he doesn't have any reputation in forum like he claims and he exchanged merits with topman21.
This is obviously one of his his alt accounts:

https://i.ibb.co/31NRZqp/img54773afee53d6b42b3487c72ec488703.jpg
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=LDL&from=topman21

Alhamdulillah. Today is our holy Friday Jumuah here. I was busy in namaz so I could not reply you in time. Hope I will reply you.

You were busy. Is this the reason you accidentally gave an address associated with LDL?
Yes, the incident happened here that a thief steals hard all night. and then left the stolen goods in the house of a reputable king  Grin
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June 03, 2023, 09:12:48 PM
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Op is trying to confuse the whole community but it won't last so long until everything is discovered. I have this strong feeling that there's a hidden truth that needs to be told. Either LDL or Op knows it or both.
We shouldn't forget easily that topman21 was account that was bought not long ago and it was bursted. It could be that the drama is between Topman21 (or LDL according to address link) and Op.  Just speculating.

Why have I been framed?

Your story didn't sound factual although.

I have a request for you to think about it. If I (LDL) were multi of topman21 could I self harm myself.

Can you provide evidence where LDL harmmed topman21?

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June 03, 2023, 09:54:19 PM
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Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?

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Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?
LDL's name has been reported before and it was by lovesmayfamilis. Are you implying that lovesmayfamilis is a highly reputable forum person and has a personal animosity towards shit posters like LDL?

Connection Between LDL & Rigon : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277020.msg61504960#msg61504960

Connection Between topman21 & Rigon : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431433.msg61496460#msg61496460

Connection Between LDL & topman21 and scam $40 from someone : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454820.msg62341712#msg62341712


Connection Between 8 account including LDL, topman21, Rigon : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277020.msg61506208#msg61506208

All these accounts are controlled by 1 person and I have come to know through secret sources that he has more several alt accounts. He himself exchanges merit from his alts accounts and build accounts and join signature campaigns with all accounts and sell accounts many times. this is truth. you can check it by yourself
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June 04, 2023, 04:13:18 AM
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topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.  At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him.  Our contract was 80$ he blocked me after I paid 40$ earlier.  what can i do now  help me  How can I get my money back?

You have also made a big mistake for trusting someone you just met on a platform and engage dealing your money with such user, you're already behaving like a novice without being exposed because right from reading your story first paragraph, it all tells about the kind of person you could also be, secondly being a newbie and you've already got batched with a negative feedback, which is also an indication that you've been involved in some things you're not expected and merging your profile together with your experience will give a perfect match o the kind of person you are by yourself.


Don Pedro  Dinero  has a negative tag on my profile.  Which I don't think is fair at the moment.  He gave me a red tag because our conversation and my post mentioned that I went to purchase an account.  Don Pedro Dinero tries to undermine the content of this topic with this Red Tag. doing because even senior members hugeblack & yahoo62278 are not deciding to tag me yet. then how can he jump to tag me.
I am a newbie so I won't get any fair trial. Does this scandal seem too trivial to yours?
Account sales are not illegal but they are discouraged by the community. What that means is, you can engage in the activity, but the community may tag you because to most of them only scammers buy accounts. Don Pedro is 1 who dislikes account sales. He is allowed to tag you (I wouldn't. I rarely tag account sellers) if he wishes.

What you can do Listen very closely is

a. Post your btc address
b. Get a refund
c. log out if your account
d. make a new account not in any way related to the 1 you are on now
e. go on with life

This is the easiest way for you to go as having multiple accounts is allowed and not discouraged. Since you are not banned, this is acceptable. If you wish to pursue fact finding on LDL you can at your own leisure.
topman21/LDL was scam my 40$. However, it was later returned after being caught. I don't want to say anything more about it. But one thing is a scammer can never be trusted.
I have taken your advice and i have created a new account and am now busy with my new account.
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June 04, 2023, 04:21:42 AM
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Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?
Yeah, it's that easy to make someone fool, defame someone without any effort but only a small amount of BTC sent. Also, the return of BTC is guaranteed.

All these accounts are controlled by 1 person and I have come to know through secret sources that he has more several alt accounts. He himself exchanges merit from his alts accounts and build accounts and join signature campaigns with all accounts and sell accounts many times. this is truth. you can check it by yourself
So, why don't you post all the proofs you got from your secret sources? Instead of asking others to check/investigate, please present it yourself because it seems you are more interested in this case than anyone else, even more, interested than the thread creator. Please go ahead and post your proofs from secret sources. Don't ask others to present it.

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