topman21 scam my 40$ help me

[nutildah]

So, why don't you post all the proofs you got from your secret sources? Instead of asking others to check/investigate, please present it yourself because it seems you are more interested in this case than anyone else, even more, interested than the thread creator. Please go ahead and post your proofs from secret sources. Don't ask others to present it.

Agree with you that there is too much circumstantial evidence and not enough direct evidence. However, for me this is enough to assume topman21 and Rigon are alt accounts:





There is no logical way to explain this other than topman21 is Rigon. Rigon just happened to post his application using the exact same data as topman21, who shortly thereafter altered the application and then deleted it altogether? No, there's zero chance its just a coincidence.

The excuse given by topman21 here is very feeble and matches the feebleness of the excuse Rigon recently provided as to how he is the original owner of his account (he is not).

The evidence tying in the other alt accounts is less straight-forward, although it is somewhat compelling.

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[Little Mouse]

Agree with you that there is too much circumstantial evidence and not enough direct evidence. However, for me this is enough to assume topman21 and Rigon are alt accounts:

Yeah but the connection with LDL is not clear. The writing style can be close enough because there are more than 7 billion people in the world and a lot of people will have a similar type of handwriting.

[DaNNy001]

Hmm.. What an interesting case but thank God its finally resolved but some parties doesn't seem to think so and my only suprise after reading this post was that I didn't come to see two of the forums best jury and investigators @jollygood and @pokerplayer would have been nice to hear there own opinion on this matter.  

[Poker Player]

Hmm.. What an interesting case but thank God its finally resolved but some parties doesn't seem to think so and my only suprise after reading this post was that I didn't come to see two of the forums best jury and investigators @jollygood and @pokerplayer would have been nice to hear there own opinion on this matter.  

Thank you for the compliment but I think I am far from being one of the best investigators. If I have not pronounced myself yet it is because I see what look to me like many alts accounts in this thread and I do not see to what extent there may be hidden interests. I think, in fact, that the best thing would be to lock the thread and if necessary open a separate one for LDL, but it is up to the OP because I don't think the moderators will lock it.

I see that LDL has a neutral tag already and in my case, if I tag him my tag will be negative, being alt from someone we can't trust, topman21. But as I don't have it clear, I don't act.

[John Abraham]

He is very suspicious. Besides he didn't want "big money" back, he made all this show first which looks very strange. If we'll look at the transaction he provided for proof of the payment it is a payment from an exchange account (what is clear from the screens as well), so we can't trace his own address. If we'll look at the chat correspondence we can see that he asked to refund his money not giving an address — to where did he want to get a refund? To an exchange address? Looks like a staging. And when he finally gave his address here for a refund we see that it is a totally new address not to be traced.

Yes, he is. Look at his posts. Do you believe he is a newbie in this forum? Someone is a newbie who wants to buy a Forum account from Topman21, which has been inactive for almost two months. I am curious how OP knows that Topman21 was selling a Full member account when Topman did not create any sell thread. Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Moreover, You said $40 is big money for you. When Yahoo suggested, you give your Bitcoin Wallet and get the money from LDL. You denied it and said you don't want the money back until this is solved. What was the issue here? The issue was someone scammed you for $40. Now it is found that $40 is in LDL's wallet. If you were a real victim, you should be more than happy that you are getting back your Big Money! If you get the money back, the issues should have been resolved. But, it seems this wasn't the primary purpose. Or was it?

[Awaklara]

I have taken your advice and i have created a new account and am now busy with my new account.

if you have done it, then your case is finished. you can lock this thread. LDL has also previously been charged with possible multiple account connections. if anyone wants to expand on the LDL case I feel the need to create another thread that will be more appropriate for the topic. while your $40 case, is now done.
I would not support LDL in this case, there are suspicions against it. as well as the scenario that you provide. now you have got your money, and now you can focus on your new account.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Interesting case. So if someone send BTC to the address I have on my profile and then he posts a lot of screenshot having conversation on Telegram or discord on a topic about me scamming $40 or $400 where I have no idea what is going on then everyone will start telling me I am a scammer? I don't know how many people are upset and against me on the forum but that will be an entire new level for me to defend myself.

@LDL, I hear you but it's hard to tell which side is real and which side is making up stories. May be someone else found a nice opportunity to fool you both?

LDL's name has been reported before and it was by lovesmayfamilis. Are you implying that lovesmayfamilis is a highly reputable forum person and has a personal animosity towards shit posters like LDL?

Connection Between LDL & Rigon : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277020.msg61504960#msg61504960

Connection Between topman21 & Rigon : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431433.msg61496460#msg61496460

Connection Between LDL & topman21 and scam $40 from someone : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454820.msg62341712#msg62341712


Connection Between 8 account including LDL, topman21, Rigon : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277020.msg61506208#msg61506208

All these accounts are controlled by 1 person and I have come to know through secret sources that he has more several alt accounts. He himself exchanges merit from his alts accounts and build accounts and join signature campaigns with all accounts and sell accounts many times. this is truth. you can check it by yourself

I think you did not understand what I said. Let me try it again.

Check my profile, you will find a BTC address which is bc1ql847ly3a0kaw6zhscc686a3lv7ve98qgay8422

Consider, somehow you [notscam420] have great anger against me and you want to do something it to downplay my forum reputation. OP [Xavi20] is a good friend of yours or may be OP is you [notscam420=Xavi20]. Both of you made a plan:

Create a fake conversation where Xavi20 will ask a btc address, notscam420 [pretending a forum member who have accounts or anything that is good to frame me] send Xavi20 my BTC address which is easy to find. Xavi20 sends the money.

Very simple and seems effective too in short term.

While you guys or you yourself is doing everything to ensure I am trapped, I have no idea what is going on.

Now the next phase of the plan.
Xavi20 creates a very similar topic and accuse me I am a scammer.

My question.
Do you think I am really a scammer?

Give short answer as yes or no.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

This is not me trying to side with LDL or Xavi20 (because of the suspicion on LDL seen by other memebers), I have read from page one to this thread down, and I have seen that no one mentioned the thing I have noticed with Xavi20.

On the telegram messages between Xavi20 and Topman21, Xavi20's English was not well constructed, but after he created this topic, all his replies had a different tone and his English was more arranged.

I don't know if anyone noticed the difference. I just feel Xavi20 tried to frame LDL, but the case is not clear enough to know if he (LDL) is saying the truth. But my pa-pa would always say to me, "Dr. Nothing is ever hidden under the sun." So, if LDL truly has some carcass in his cupboard, it will one day be exposed.

Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

[KingsDen]

On the telegram messages between Xavi20 and Topman21, Xavi20's English was not well constructed, but after he created this topic, all his replies had a different tone and his English was more arranged.

Good observation.  Xavi20's English was like;
Don't cheat me;
I am a very poor person;
Back my btc;
Don't lying to to me;

Lolx... I said it, that one if not all of them wants to confuse the community but I assure them that eyes are on the accounts now. I doubt LDL will be able to come out from this unstained 

[John Abraham]

I think you did not understand what I said. Let me try it again.

Check my profile, you will find a BTC address which is bc1ql847ly3a0kaw6zhscc686a3lv7ve98qgay8422

Consider, somehow you [notscam420] have great anger against me and you want to do something it to downplay my forum reputation. OP [Xavi20] is a good friend of yours or may be OP is you [notscam420=Xavi20]. Both of you made a plan:

Create a fake conversation where Xavi20 will ask a btc address, notscam420 [pretending a forum member who have accounts or anything that is good to frame me] send Xavi20 my BTC address which is easy to find. Xavi20 sends the money.

Very simple and seems effective too in short term.

While you guys or you yourself is doing everything to ensure I am trapped, I have no idea what is going on.

Now the next phase of the plan.
Xavi20 creates a very similar topic and accuse me I am a scammer.

My question.
Do you think I am really a scammer?

Give short answer as yes or no.

I believe this is the thing that happened here. I will apologize if they can prove me wrong and later discover that LDL really tried to scam them. I am not sure if any of you guys paid attention to my previous post. I will repeat it again what I said in my previous post.

Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Moreover, You said $40 is big money for you. When Yahoo suggested, you give your Bitcoin Wallet and get the money from LDL. You denied it and said you don't want the money back until this is solved. What was the issue here? The issue was someone scammed you for $40. Now it is found that $40 is in LDL's wallet. If you were a real victim, you should be more than happy that you are getting back your Big Money! If you get the money back, the issues should have been resolved. But, it seems this wasn't the primary purpose. Or was it?

Answer me one Question only. How did you know Topman is going to sell an Full member account while he was not in the forum for last two months?

[SatoPrincess]

I believe this is the thing that happened here. I will apologize if they can prove me wrong and later discovered that LDL really tried to scam them. I am not sure if any of you guys paid attention to my previous post. I will repeat it again what I said in my previous post.

Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Moreover, You said $40 is big money for you. When Yahoo suggested, you give your Bitcoin Wallet and get the money from LDL. You denied it and said you don't want the money back until this is solved. What was the issue here? The issue was someone scammed you for $40. Now it is found that $40 is in LDL's wallet. If you were a real victim, you should be more than happy that you are getting back your Big Money! If you get the money back, the issues should have been resolved. But, it seems this wasn't the primary purpose. Or was it?

I have been following this thread from the start and didn’t say anything because everything about it looks suspicious and it’s kinda difficult to say what’s what in this situation. I don’t think you have to repeat your posts to be heard. Notscam420 is also doing the same on this thread, repeating evidence linking LDL to other accounts. It’s tiring to read guys, we saw your previous post, and frankly that’s not enough reason to close the case. The OP clearly wants blood and notscam420 claims to have some dirt on LDL, I’m waiting to see what they come up with.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I have been following this thread from the start and didn’t say anything because everything about it looks suspicious and it’s kinda difficult to say what’s what in this situation. I don’t think you have to repeat your posts to be heard. Notscam420 is also doing the same on this thread, repeating evidence linking LDL to other accounts. It’s tiring to read guys, we saw your previous post, and frankly that’s not enough reason to close the case. The OP clearly wants blood and notscam420 claims to have some dirt on LDL, I’m waiting to see what they come up with.

I will say more: while these two heroes of the whistleblower threaten to catch the swindler, he, knowing that he is now being controlled, will be very attentive. I said earlier that LDL has alternate accounts, but it's not forbidden, and it's very hard to corner someone who knows they're being followed. Among other things, in the local branch of the LDL, there is clearly a transfer of merit to increase ranks, but apparently, several clans cannot reconcile with each other.

[invincible49]

Now the bottom line is that the cheating cycle has been repeatedly damaged by invincible49 but in no case they have been able to retaliate.  As a result, the fraud circle later compared invincible49 to me and started thinking that I (LDL) was personally invincible49 (Now inactive) and they took a kind of invisible revenge on me with their created group (nitscam420/Xavi20/Topman21....). Forcing report and sending a planned $40 bitcoin (to my LDL address) connected to (Topman21) report which was all their planned plot or animosity.

That whole post of yours is very confusing man. How do you prove that scum and his team are behind all of this just to set a trap for you in which you fell? I don't see from your post history that can even remotely points your account towards mine as an alt. I don't know if you are trying to hide something behind some other's scummy behaviors. I've got your dm a few days ago but after reading this whole thread I'm shocked that you would make up that shit. Or what else?