[BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888

[barlo357]

The reason for ban is mostly due to rule #13
and plagiarism (updated: June 6, 2023 4:20AM Philippines Time)

Ban appeal request for the account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying.

The thread that I'm bumping is "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4290632.0" and I posted more than one updates per 24 hours resulting for the announcement thread to be bumped so that many bitcointalk users can see the thread.

I was working for Solarex_ICO as a bounty manager and announcement thread moderator. At first, even though I don't know the rules for bumping, I was blindly following the rules by updating the announcement thread one post per day until I already broke the rule #13. I'm not aware that I'm already breaking the rule without being noticed until the month of May 2019 where I update too much and one day, I just saw my account banned after I logged in.

It was my first time moderating an announcement thread and it was my bad where I didn't read the rules before doing some actions. If I only knew from the start, then I will comply to the rules. I'm doing updates for it to show on the first page and hoping to get some views to create a discussion with my boss answering their inquiries. With this, the discussion will continue bumping the thread without me posting too much. Unfortunately, my account got banned and what can I only do is update the spreadsheets weekly for the bounty campaign. The bounty campaign was also short-lived since there are only few people interested with the project.

If ever the account was unbanned, I will now continue using this account (barlo357) and contribute some of my thoughts in this platform. After being a full-time trader for a year, there are many lessons that I've learned and make sure to utilize the forum to share my knowledge and opinions about crypto.

Addressing plagiarism issue: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455005.msg62360421#msg62360421 (updated: June 6, 2023 4:22 AM Philippines Time)

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[rby]

It seems that moderators banned some accounts recently, many van appeals are showing up in meta

Op, I am not a moderator but it seems that it's difficult for me to understand you. If I didn't understand, it's likely that the moderator who will handle your case will also not understand.

Which account was banned?
Could it be Solarex_ICO?, if yes, why didn't you create a new account with Solarex_ICO_appeal  for the appeal.
The thread you referenced that you were bumping was last updated 2019.
I don't want to believe that the banned profile is not mentioned here.
Then barlo357 is safe because you posted with it.
What exactly I'm I not getting right?

[decodx]

If ever the account was unbanned, I will now continue using this account (barlo357) and contribute some of my thoughts in this platform.

In my understanding, it is generally not permitted to create or use additional accounts if one of your accounts is banned.
By using this account you are essentially breaking the ban evasion rule:

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

[barlo357]

It seems that moderators banned some accounts recently, many van appeals are showing up in meta

Op, I am not a moderator but it seems that it's difficult for me to understand you. If I didn't understand, it's likely that the moderator who will handle your case will also not understand.

Which account was banned?
Could it be Solarex_ICO?, if yes, why didn't you create a new account with Solarex_ICO_appeal  for the appeal.
The thread you referenced that you were bumping was last updated 2019.
I don't want to believe that the banned profile is not mentioned here.
Then barlo357 is safe because you posted with it.
What exactly I'm I not getting right?

Which account was banned?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888

If ever the account was unbanned, I will now continue using this account (barlo357) and contribute some of my thoughts in this platform.

In my understanding, it is generally not permitted to create or use additional accounts if one of your accounts is banned.
By using this account you are essentially breaking the ban evasion rule:

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

This was not really my alt. I didn't create this from the start, and it has a different owner before. The ownership was renounced to me since the first owner (my uncle) wasn't interested in the forum anymore.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

You are again breaking a rule (unofficial rule). You are not allowed to make more than one post in a row. It takes time to build a full member and on the way to achieve a full member rank one must know at least some of the rules. I wonder why are you still ignorant.

This was not really my alt. I didn't create this from the start, and it has a different owner before. The ownership was renounced to me since the first owner (my uncle) wasn't interested in the forum anymore.

No sure what to tell. Normally when one person manage more than one account then the account they first created except that account, all other accounts should be his alt account. Since you managed that account, that was your alt too. However, I hope no one will make it a big deal from it.

[barlo357]

You are again breaking a rule (unofficial rule). You are not allowed to make more than one post in a row. It takes time to build a full member and on the way to achieve a full member rank one must know at least some of the rules. I wonder why are you still ignorant.

I thought the rules on announcement threads are different back then. I was my first time handling an announcement thread too. I was unaware that I'm following the rules until I posted too much in a row. In my perspective, the updates should be on time and it shouldn't be late. I tried to appeal via email, but it was ignored.

No sure what to tell. Normally when one person manage more than one account then the account they first created except that account, all other accounts should be his alt account. Since you managed that account, that was your alt too. However, I hope no one will make it a big deal from it.

If unbanned, I won't be using my original account. If I will use it, I won't be using barlo357. I just want to clear my name regarding to ban evasion.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

If unbanned, I won't be using my original account. If I will use it, I won't be using barlo357. I just want to clear my name regarding to ban evasion.

You sound innocent and the mistake seems innocent mistake. I am with you and just hope that others don't make it a big issue. There are people who might protest since one of your alt is ban, so this account should be banned too and you are evading ban when you are making posts on other boards accept appealing for your ban on the Meta board.

[Cantsay]

I think this is the first case I have come across where a user was banned for bumping a thread. At first I thought maybe something else occured that Op was unaware of that led to his account being banned I searched ninjastic.space to see if any of his post was reported for plagarism but I couldn't see any.

If unbanned, I won't be using my original account. If I will use it, I won't be using barlo357. I just want to clear my name regarding to ban evasion.

You sound innocent and the mistake seems innocent mistake. I am with you and just hope that others don't make it a big issue. There are people who might protest since one of your alt is ban, so this account should be banned too and you are evading ban when you are making posts on other boards accept appealing for your ban on the Meta board.

According to what I've seen in several ban appeal threads, there must be a user who wants Op's account to be banned as well, and because this is an anomaly (to me), I'd love to see his banned account unbanned, I also give Op my support, and I hope this topic yields the desired result.

Op now that this thread has been created please refrain from your signature campaign so that you won't make matter worst for yourself.

[barlo357]

I think this is the first case I have come across where a user was banned for bumping a thread. At first I thought maybe something else occured that Op was unaware of that led to his account being banned I searched ninjastic.space to see if any of his post was reported for plagarism but I couldn't see any.

If unbanned, I won't be using my original account. If I will use it, I won't be using barlo357. I just want to clear my name regarding to ban evasion.

You sound innocent and the mistake seems innocent mistake. I am with you and just hope that others don't make it a big issue. There are people who might protest since one of your alt is ban, so this account should be banned too and you are evading ban when you are making posts on other boards accept appealing for your ban on the Meta board.

According to what I've seen in several ban appeal threads, there must be a user who wants Op's account to be banned as well, and because this is an anomaly (to me), I'd love to see his banned account unbanned, I also give Op my support, and I hope this topic yields the desired result.

Op now that this thread has been created please refrain from your signature campaign so that you won't make matter worst for yourself.

Okay, I will wait my main account's ban to be uplifted before posting continuing my signature campaign.

I think this is the first case I have come across where a user was banned for bumping a thread.

I didn't receive any notice about it. I just saw on my homepage that my account was perma banned and the only reason after I read the rules is the rule about bumping threads in which I knew that the only thread I was bumping is the announcement thread that I'm working on.

I was hoping that my appeal thru email would make a difference. I do some follow ups when there is no reply within 24-48 hours until I lose hope. I was still a silent reader even though I was banned, searching some good altcoins to trade which made me money last bull run.

[Yamane_Keto]

Okay, I will wait my main account's ban to be uplifted before posting continuing my signature campaign.

You got it wrong, if this is proven to be an alternative account to a banned account, your signature will disappear and thus you will be removed from your signature campaign, not to mention the possibility that the previous account will be unbanned, which seems slim.

[Helena Yu]

I already leave a neutral feedback because your account is evading ban and was changed hands, I hope the moderators will taking an action ASAP.

Well the ban happen since 2019 and I don't really know what was the reason, but getting permanent banned due to bumping post is high unlikely IMO, the moderators usually merge the post and then leave it.

You should explain what have you contributed in this forum, but I don't see any contribution you've done, you're only run a campaign, become a moderator and ask a loan.

[light_warrior]

Which account was banned?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888


This was not really my alt. I didn't create this from the start, and it has a different owner before. The ownership was renounced to me since the first owner (my uncle) wasn't interested in the forum anymore.

You seem to have uncles and aunts and nephews on this forum

bristlefront
BTCedgar
btsjungkook
DySWv
selectaselectine

Joined Telegram
@sumangs
0xc94a2301B0cbD9c247C1fc34911Dc77160A7210c

#Proof of authentication
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Telegram username: @sumangs
ETH address: 0xc94a2301B0cbD9c247C1fc34911Dc77160A7210c

Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888;sa=account
Rank: Full member
Starting post Count: 385(INCLUDING THIS POST)
Date of Join: December 5 2017
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
Eth address: 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42
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Edit: my account was already banned in 7days only and i can't not edit my work.
Day 11:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2520981.msg26128245#msg26128245 Post Count : 116
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2043676.msg26141743#msg26141743 Post Count : 117
Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

If he quotes the btsjungkook account, then he owns it too.

Amount you need : 0.07 BTC (ALMOST 500 USD)
Repayment amount : 0.1 BTC
Repayment date : After 10 days (SHORT TERM)
A signed message using a very very old bitcoin address that you have used here.

36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

This is my one and only bitcoin address since I joined on June 2017.

I will send additional info on a cc copy on your another account, GreedyBitcoiner.

#Proof of authentification

Bitcointalk Username: sumangs
Bcnex Email: juanlorenzo.sumangil@gmail.com         
Telegram Username: @CaptainAllMight
Campaign: Signature

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk name: selectaselectine
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1227570
Telegram username: @CaptainAllMight
ETH address: 0x4CAf8D3035173061d9a515555c0CcA5a96090E00

[barlo357]

I already leave a neutral feedback because your account is evading ban and was changed hands, I hope the moderators will taking an action ASAP.

Well the ban happen since 2019 and I don't really know what was the reason, but getting permanent banned due to bumping post is high unlikely IMO, the moderators usually merge the post and then leave it.

You should explain what have you contributed in this forum, but I don't see any contribution you've done, you're only run a campaign, become a moderator and ask a loan.

The loan thing was properly resolved even I didnt get a loan. I was almost became a victim of a scam website if it wasnt for those people that I talked on that thread. That thread was a good example to what other kind of scams out there during that time.

If you disagree on the appeal, then try to find a reason why I got banned other than breaking rule 13. Clue: not on because of the loan. The bumping of a thread is the only reason I can see why the account was banned. Like I said before, it was my first time moderating a thread and merging the updates on a single post was not in my mind that time because in my perspective back then, the updates are time sensitive, so I lost my sense to follow the rule regarding bumping threads.

Why finding a contribution? Does being not a nuisance in the community not enough?

[mocacinno]

Just to chime in on (my understanding of) ban evasion:

If you get banned, it's you (as a person) that gets banned, not (only) your account.

So, it doesn't matter if your account is a hand-me-down of your uncle, or if you found the credentials on a piece of paper laying on the street somewhere. If an account under your control gets banned, you (as a person) are no longer allowed to post using any other accounts for the duration of the ban. The only exception is making a new account (or using an existing account) to create a ban appeal in the meta section for discussing your ban. Everything else is considered ban evasion (which is a bannable offence).

It doesn't really matter why you got banned in the first place... If you don't agree with your ban, the correct order of doing things is: using a new or existing account to create one topic in meta to appeal your ban and ONLY post in this topic whilst your ban is still active. If your ban gets reversed (and only if) you can start posting again outside meta. I got banned once for participating in a raffle in the wrong subforum, and that's exactly what i did: i stopped posting and asked for lenience from the admin since it was my first offence after years of being a member... My sentence got reduced, and i only started posting once my bantime was over.

I know it looks like people don't make a big deal out of ban evasion most of the time... I don't really mind... But to my understanding (after being here close to a decade) those are the "official" unofficial rules.

[barlo357]

Which account was banned?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888


This was not really my alt. I didn't create this from the start, and it has a different owner before. The ownership was renounced to me since the first owner (my uncle) wasn't interested in the forum anymore.

You seem to have uncles and aunts and nephews on this forum

bristlefront
BTCedgar
btsjungkook
DySWv
selectaselectine

Joined Telegram
@sumangs
0xc94a2301B0cbD9c247C1fc34911Dc77160A7210c

#Proof of authentication
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Telegram username: @sumangs
ETH address: 0xc94a2301B0cbD9c247C1fc34911Dc77160A7210c

Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888;sa=account
Rank: Full member
Starting post Count: 385(INCLUDING THIS POST)
Date of Join: December 5 2017
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
Eth address: 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42
~snip~

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Edit: my account was already banned in 7days only and i can't not edit my work.
Day 11:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2520981.msg26128245#msg26128245 Post Count : 116
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2043676.msg26141743#msg26141743 Post Count : 117
Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

If he quotes the btsjungkook account, then he owns it too.

Amount you need : 0.07 BTC (ALMOST 500 USD)
Repayment amount : 0.1 BTC
Repayment date : After 10 days (SHORT TERM)
A signed message using a very very old bitcoin address that you have used here.

36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

This is my one and only bitcoin address since I joined on June 2017.

I will send additional info on a cc copy on your another account, GreedyBitcoiner.

#Proof of authentification

Bitcointalk Username: sumangs
Bcnex Email: juanlorenzo.sumangil@gmail.com        
Telegram Username: @CaptainAllMight
Campaign: Signature

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk name: selectaselectine
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1227570
Telegram username: @CaptainAllMight
ETH address: 0x4CAf8D3035173061d9a515555c0CcA5a96090E00

Bristlefront, alt account but already gave it to a friend. (Not account selling)

Btcedgar, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends. Reference for real owner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2408654.msg25563510#msg25563510

Btsjungkook, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends. Alt of btsjimin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199549

Dyswv, my friend account. I used it only for few weeks.

Selectaselectine, my friend account, i used only for few weeks.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Oh God, I see that the OP's honesty in this example borders on stupidity.
Maybe I don't understand something, but why create a topic in the meta and talk about a blocked account when you don't have any matches with it? Nobody would pay attention to you. Are you so paranoid that you think you will be followed? Or do you need a newbie account and are ready to part ways with a higher-ranking account?
I don't understand what you want to achieve here. Now, according to the rules, you must leave the forum from this account.

Bristlefront, alt account but already gave it to a friend. (Not account selling)
Btcedgar, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends
Btsjungkook, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends
Dyswv, my friend account. I used it only for few weeks.
Selectaselectine, my friend account, i used only for few weeks

Talking about friends and girlfriends will not work here. All found accounts belong to you, and everything you say is just words in the air. Nobody believes this.

[barlo357]

Just to chime in on (my understanding of) ban evasion:

If you get banned, it's you (as a person) that gets banned, not (only) your account.

So, it doesn't matter if your account is a hand-me-down of your uncle, or if you found the credentials on a piece of paper laying on the street somewhere. If an account under your control gets banned, you (as a person) are no longer allowed to post using any other accounts for the duration of the ban. The only exception is making a new account (or using an existing account) to create a ban appeal in the meta section for discussing your ban. Everything else is considered ban evasion (which is a bannable offence).

It doesn't really matter why you got banned in the first place... If you don't agree with your ban, the correct order of doing things is: using a new or existing account to create one topic in meta to appeal your ban and ONLY post in this topic whilst your ban is still active. If your ban gets reversed (and only if) you can start posting again outside meta. I got banned once for participating in a raffle in the wrong subforum, and that's exactly what i did: i stopped posting and asked for lenience from the admin since it was my first offence after years of being a member... My sentence got reduced, and i only started posting once my bantime was over.

I know it looks like people don't make a big deal out of ban evasion most of the time... I don't really mind... But to my understanding (after being here close to a decade) those are the "official" unofficial rules.

As if im the only one that was doing it in this forum. Have you already purge all of them? I think no. At least i was honest about having another account and willing to fix it.

[barlo357]

Oh God, I see that the OP's honesty in this example borders on stupidity.
Maybe I don't understand something, but why create a topic in the meta and talk about a blocked account when you don't have any matches with it? Nobody would pay attention to you. Are you so paranoid that you think you will be followed? Or do you need a newbie account and are ready to part ways with a higher-ranking account?
I don't understand what you want to achieve here. Now, according to the rules, you must leave the forum from this account.

Bristlefront, alt account but already gave it to a friend. (Not account selling)
Btcedgar, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends
Btsjungkook, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends
Dyswv, my friend account. I used it only for few weeks.
Selectaselectine, my friend account, i used only for few weeks

Talking about friends and girlfriends will not work here. All found accounts belong to you, and everything you say is just words in the air. Nobody believes this.

Wow! Lets make an example:

What if some troll will use your details and the mod will find that a troll account was mistakenly accused as an alt account of someone doing an honest work here?

Or the real owner borrows another forum members wallet address?




Just making conclusions of only the things u see and disregard what’s on the background?

[lovesmayfamilis]

Wow! Lets make an example:

What if some troll will use your details and the mod will find that a troll account was mistakenly accused as an alt account of someone doing an honest work here?

Or the real owner borrows another forum members wallet address?
Just making conclusions of only the things u see and disregard what’s on the background?

What data are you talking about? In account
Solarex_ICO I did not find any data that could point to your account. But what about the other account that you gave three merits to? Is this also a relative?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2031561

How many more accounts are there that we don't know about?

[mocacinno]

As if im the only one that was doing it in this forum. Have you already purge all of them? I think no. At least i was honest about having another account and willing to fix it.

Did you actually read what i wrote?

Here's a quote from my post:

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I know it looks like people don't make a big deal out of ban evasion most of the time... I don't really mind... But to my understanding (after being here close to a decade) those are the "official" unofficial rules.
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I don't care what you do, i'm not the one banning people or tracking offenders down... It just that after reading your posts, i was under the impression you thought that because the account wasn't originally created by you, you weren't evading a ban (which you are).

I see people breaking the law on a daily basis (usually traffic laws). It's not because everybody is doing it that it's ok to break the law yourself... Neither am i going to stop other people from breaking laws since i'm not law enforcement.
But if they would come to the forum and said: "i was riding 90 km/h on a road where the speed limit was 70 km/h, but it wasn't my car and everybody else was doing it, so that's ok. I should have never gotten a speeding ticket": i would never ever agree with you... Maybe the law is stupid and 90 km/h is perfectly fine at a certain spot: it doesn't matter, you still broke the (traffic) law. If you wanted to ride 90 km/h you should have petitioned the local governement to change the speed limit before going 90 km/h.