[BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888

[barlo357]

Wow! Lets make an example:

What if some troll will use your details and the mod will find that a troll account was mistakenly accused as an alt account of someone doing an honest work here?

Or the real owner borrows another forum members wallet address?
Just making conclusions of only the things u see and disregard what’s on the background?

What data are you talking about? In account
Solarex_ICO I did not find any data that could point to your account. But what about the other account that you gave three merits to? Is this also a relative?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2031561

How many more accounts are there that we don't know about?

Someone points me i used btcedgar and btsjungkook even i didnt open it once on any of my device. He just made a conclusion just because my btc wallet was in btcedgar and btsjungkook’s authentication post.

The other accounts wasnt really mine but it shouldnt be count as an alt account just because i have access to it. People can share authentication to someone they trust and it wasnt said on the rules that it was prohibited.

I didnt use solarex_ico’s account and never had an access to it but i worked for him.

The merits are given to barlo_blake for no reason and it was a good excuse to not give theyoungmillionaire a merit back then.

[Eternad]

In my understanding, it is generally not permitted to create or use additional accounts if one of your accounts is banned.
By using this account you are essentially breaking the ban evasion rule:

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

There’s an exception to this rule on the bottom part of the list that mprep created.

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

It’s allowed to create an account or use an alt account as long as you will only post on meta board. This exception is to give way for ban user to create an appeal by providing explanation and reason for their side.

[SamReomo]

I have read the whole post and the replies, but I'm shocked that why have you posted a ban appeal from your uncle's account? You could do it from any new account and if your point was right then you might be given a second chance by the moderators. But, the thing you have done was not a intelligent step and because of that you risked your uncle's account as well.

Even though the account that you are using is legit but still if someone, who is banned from the forum, is using such account to create an appeal thread or join signature campaigns is a sign of ban evading. Because you doesn't seem to be a wrong person and you words aren't in any way of a scammer, that's why I'm not going against you. I will keep silent in the situation and let the moderators decide for you.

It would be better if you had created a new account and posted ban appeal from that account. In that way you won't be doing any form of ban evasion. It's always preferable to appeal for your banned account from a newly created account, and if your appeal is good enough then the moderators might give you another chance.

However, in search of being unbanned you broke another rule by using the forum from another account, or I may say from many alternative accounts. In such case only a moderator or administrator knows that either you will get unbanned or you might lose you current account if you continue using it because it will be considered as ban evasion.

[barlo357]

As if im the only one that was doing it in this forum. Have you already purge all of them? I think no. At least i was honest about having another account and willing to fix it.

Did you actually read what i wrote?

Here's a quote from my post:

--snip--
I know it looks like people don't make a big deal out of ban evasion most of the time... I don't really mind... But to my understanding (after being here close to a decade) those are the "official" unofficial rules.
--snip--

I don't care what you do, i'm not the one banning people or tracking offenders down... It just that after reading your posts, i was under the impression you thought that because the account wasn't originally created by you, you weren't evading a ban (which you are).

I see people breaking the law on a daily basis (usually traffic laws). It's not because everybody is doing it that it's ok to break the law yourself... Neither am i going to stop other people from breaking laws since i'm not law enforcement.
But if they would come to the forum and said: "i was riding 90 km/h on a road where the speed limit was 70 km/h, but it wasn't my car and everybody else was doing it, so that's ok. I should have never gotten a speeding ticket": i would never ever agree with you... Maybe the law is stupid and 90 km/h is perfectly fine at a certain spot: it doesn't matter, you still broke the (traffic) law. If you wanted to ride 90 km/h you should have petitioned the local governement to change the speed limit before going 90 km/h.

Any other offense aside from ban evasion in barlo357? I’m appealing for uid:1035888’s offense and that will be my only focus starting now. Once the offense of my banned account was lifted, there would be no reason to throw allegations about ban evasion here.

Your analogy isnt targeted on the banned account but on this account which will be voided once the ban issue on my 1035888 is fixed. I will also refrain posting on other threads until the ban was lifted to prevent the situation becoming worse.

The perma ban isnt a solution for all offense. Every offense should has different punishment. It has been 4 years since the ban of my 1035888 account and i think a ban for a certain number of days should be a fair punishment for the offense that my 1035888 account made.

[lovesmayfamilis]

So that people can better understand what you are talking about, OP, it was worth adding a link to the beginning of your story.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233790.msg62313258#msg62313258

The perma ban isnt a solution for all offense. Every offense should has different punishment. It has been 4 years since the ban of my 1035888 account and i think a ban for a certain number of days should be a fair punishment for the offense that my 1035888 account made.

You are a cheerful guy. I think that you have amused many here with your rules

[barlo357]

I have read the whole post and the replies, but I'm shocked that why have you posted a ban appeal from your uncle's account? You could do it from any new account and if your point was right then you might be given a second chance by the moderators. But, the thing you have done was not a intelligent step and because of that you risked your uncle's account as well.

Even though the account that you are using is legit but still if someone, who is banned from the forum, is using such account to create an appeal thread or join signature campaigns is a sign of ban evading. Because you doesn't seem to be a wrong person and you words aren't in any way of a scammer, that's why I'm not going against you. I will keep silent in the situation and let the moderators decide for you.

It would be better if you had created a new account and posted ban appeal from that account. In that way you won't be doing any form of ban evasion. It's always preferable to appeal for your banned account from a newly created account, and if your appeal is good enough then the moderators might give you another chance.

However, in search of being unbanned you broke another rule by using the forum from another account, or I may say from many alternative accounts. In such case only a moderator or administrator knows that either you will get unbanned or you might lose you current account if you continue using it because it will be considered as ban evasion.

Because i admit it using my uncle’s account. Making another account for appeal would be hassle since i need to make another email for it (as far as i know, bitcointalk account requires a working email). I decided not to make another account for making an appeal post again. I’ll just follow what the other forum member said where I should not make a post on other threads aside from meta.

So that people can better understand what you are talking about, OP, it was worth adding a link to the beginning of your story.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233790.msg62313258#msg62313258

The perma ban isnt a solution for all offense. Every offense should has different punishment. It has been 4 years since the ban of my 1035888 account and i think a ban for a certain number of days should be a fair punishment for the offense that my 1035888 account made.

You are a cheerful guy. I think that you have amused many here with your rules

I think let’s not make this complicated. I make an appeal for my account 1035888 here. Instead of talking about it, you are redirecting on this account’s ban evasion offense in which it doesn’t help on my account 1035888’s situation.

[holydarkness]

So that people can better understand what you are talking about, OP, it was worth adding a link to the beginning of your story.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233790.msg62313258#msg62313258

The perma ban isnt a solution for all offense. Every offense should has different punishment. It has been 4 years since the ban of my 1035888 account and i think a ban for a certain number of days should be a fair punishment for the offense that my 1035888 account made.

You are a cheerful guy. I think that you have amused many here with your rules

I think let’s not make this complicated. I make an appeal for my account 1035888 here. Instead of talking about it, you are redirecting on this account’s ban evasion offense in which it doesn’t help on my account 1035888’s situation.

I rarely attending to a ban appeal on meta, but I think I'll make this one an exception as I am the one advising OP to stop posting with this current account [barlo357] and begin to do what he's been intending to do on meta, otherwise his posts will and can be considered as ban evasion.

The link given by lovesmayfamilis is the starting point of the mess that OP is currently facing. I am advising anyone who read this thread to give the link a read to get a better grasp of the situation.

As for OP, I understand correctly that your appeal here is not to lift the ban against sumangs and instead to declare and request dissociation from any other previous account, including barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name so that this current account will not and can not be considered as a ban-evasive account? ^{with these clusterfuck of accounts set aside for now as that is the last thing my head need in between this current hammering migraine}

If I may give my personal opinion, I think is that OP did not know he broke some rules. Not the burst posting or whatever it is that caused sumangs to be banned or that there is a thing called ban evasion. If I may try to put myself on OP's shoes, I think he thought when he got his account banned, he can create a new one --or inherited [re-herited?] one-- and posts normally again. Of course, this is purely my assumption, but if it's what happened, I think it is an honest and unintentional mistake, and if the paragraph above is what OP aimed to achieve from this thread, my two cents is that it worth a shot to give OP benefits of doubt and grant his wish. ^{[Again, this post is made while setting that whole clusterfuck of accounts aside]}

[decodx]

I think let’s not make this complicated. I make an appeal for my account 1035888 here. Instead of talking about it, you are redirecting on this account’s ban evasion offense in which it doesn’t help on my account 1035888’s situation.

I think you yourself made things complicated. Rather than discussing your ban appeal for the account "sumangs" (u=1035888), why not first clarify whether you are ban evading and how many other accounts you have on the forum?

So far we have these potential suspects:

	Date Registered:	Last Active:	Status:
sumangs (u=1035888)	June 18, 2017	Today	banned
DySWv (u=1163354)	September 21, 2017	May 15, 2020	inactive
bristlefront (u=1180107)	October 01, 2017	November 26, 2019	inactive
barlo357 (u=1193282)	October 07, 2017	Today	active
btsjungkook (u=1194486)	October 07, 2017	February 02, 2020	banned
btsjimin (u=1199549)	October 09, 2017	March 15, 2023	banned
selectaselectine (u=1227570)	October 18, 2017	November 21, 2019	inactive
BTCedgar (u=1361323)	November 29, 2017	August 27, 2021	banned
barlo_blake (u=2031561)	April 14, 2018	August 01, 2018	inactive

Could you kindly clarify the connection between these accounts and disclose any other accounts you manage? You are under no obligation to do so, but providing this information could shed light on your situation and potentially help the managers' evaluation of your ban appeal case.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Bristlefront, alt account but already gave it to a friend. (Not account selling)

Btcedgar, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends. Reference for real owner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2408654.msg25563510#msg25563510

Btsjungkook, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends. Alt of btsjimin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199549

Dyswv, my friend account. I used it only for few weeks.

Selectaselectine, my friend account, i used only for few weeks.

My man, you are now digging your own grave LOL

I think you have no idea about how the forum work or you would not come to this is my friend, he is friend type of stories. Now you are confusing us about your actual existence. Which one was your first account that was used to make the very first post you made?

barlo357, Bristlefront, Dyswv, Selectaselectine, sumangs or it's not listed yet?

Look, having alt account is not prohibited on the forum. As long as you do not break alt rules on signature campaigns and any of your accounts are banned, you will be fine but it seems decodx found something to challenge you.

[barlo357]

Could you kindly clarify the connection between these accounts and disclose any other accounts you manage? You are under no obligation to do so, but providing this information could shed light on your situation and potentially help the managers' evaluation of your ban appeal case.

my created accounts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888 - main account banned
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180107 - alt but i lend this to a friend (no access anymore)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1373641 - alt but i lend this to a friend (no access anymore)

accounts i borrowed during my main account was banned:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1163354 - my friend owns this. i used this to request a loan for trading purposes, that is why the btc address is same as sumangs when applying for a loan. I didnt use it anymore after the loan request wasnt granted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1227570 - my friend owns this. i used this for bcnex sig campaign since my main was banned. We agreed to share the bounty rewards after. I didnt use it anymore after the bounty was done. I made one last post regarding to the scam allegations against solarex since my main account that was working for solarex was banned.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1193282 - my relative owns this and the account i currently use

accounts that i borrowed before my main account was banned:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2031561 - my relative owns this. he created this for backup. I opened this only once.

accounts that i neither owned nor a friend:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1361323 - i dont know why he used my btc address
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194486 - i dont know why he used my btc address
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199549 - alt or friend of btsjunkook

As for OP, I understand correctly that your appeal here is not to lift the ban against sumangs and instead to declare and request dissociation from any other previous account, including barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name so that this current account will not and can not be considered as a ban-evasive account? ^{with these clusterfuck of accounts set aside for now as that is the last thing my head need in between this current hammering migraine}

barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name

barlo_blake hehe

I create this thread for the mod to reconsider the ban against sumangs because you told me that using barlo357 while my main account sumangs was banned is considered a ban evasion. So, in order for this account to not be considered as ban evasive account, I must remove the ban on my main account by making a ban appeal. Once the ban was removed, this account wouldnt be considered as ban evasive anymore.

For some people, instead of focusing on the main reason why my main account was banned, which is the rule #13, they are more focus on the accounts I was connected to while my main account was banned.

I think you have no idea about how the forum work or you would not come to this is my friend, he is friend type of stories.

With due respect to you, I won't spend my time here making stories and I won't blame you if you dont want to believe the "friend" or "relative" thing that I'm mentioning. Of course, I won't disclose any personal details about them that is why i addressed them like that. They're all inactive in this forum and I don't want to bother them anymore to vouch for me. I'm answering your questions with almost full honesty as I don't remember the exact details of the events before, but I hope my answers would make things clear.

[GeorgeJohn]

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking concerning this content, because I noticed that this user soliciting directly, officially to this account should be the own of banned account he is soliciting, when reading this composition theirs no place op Said that someone asked he or her to make this post on behalf of someone, so right now is using his alternative account to seek for help for the banned account. When reading this composition I fish out some certain things. But don't take my points to heart but I need to express my feelings.

[holydarkness]

As for OP, I understand correctly that your appeal here is not to lift the ban against sumangs and instead to declare and request dissociation from any other previous account, including barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name so that this current account will not and can not be considered as a ban-evasive account? ^{with these clusterfuck of accounts set aside for now as that is the last thing my head need in between this current hammering migraine}

barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name

barlo_blake hehe

I create this thread for the mod to reconsider the ban against sumangs because you told me that using barlo357 while my main account sumangs was banned is considered a ban evasion. So, in order for this account to not be considered as ban evasive account, I must remove the ban on my main account by making a ban appeal. Once the ban was removed, this account wouldnt be considered as ban evasive anymore.

For some people, instead of focusing on the main reason why my main account was banned, which is the rule #13, they are more focus on the accounts I was connected to while my main account was banned.

They're focusing on the accounts connected and that you used instead of on rule #13 is because the accounts are quite a pile. It indicated that you're --one may argue-- a prolific ban evader. The decision to lift the ban is completely on the hand of mods, although they'll quite likely listen to the community's opinion and take it to their consideration alongside with the reputation and the contribution made by the account in question.

My apology, but I have to agree with bitcoingirl, you're digging your hole, a massive one, because it is revealed that you're not only utilizing barlo and sumangs, there are couple other accounts you "borrowed" as well. One that came to my mind that perhaps could help us understand you --and from it, you helping yourself with this case-- is probably to explain why you use and borrow those accounts instead of appealing for the ban to be lifted on the first place? Why now? You said and I quote,

I'm going to appeal in few days. I hope they would unban me since it was my first time managing an announcement thread and I don't know spamming would get a ban without any warnings.

So you, finally, already have a plan --in a few days after the deleted post above was made-- to appeal, why didn't this initiative came to you when sumangs got banned years ago?

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking concerning this content, because I noticed that this user soliciting directly, officially to this account should be the own of banned account he is soliciting, when reading this composition theirs no place op Said that someone asked he or her to make this post on behalf of someone, so right now is using his alternative account to seek for help for the banned account. When reading this composition I fish out some certain things. But don't take my points to heart but I need to express my feelings.

What?

I advise you to read the thread again, more carefully.

[barlo357]

As for OP, I understand correctly that your appeal here is not to lift the ban against sumangs and instead to declare and request dissociation from any other previous account, including barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name so that this current account will not and can not be considered as a ban-evasive account? ^{with these clusterfuck of accounts set aside for now as that is the last thing my head need in between this current hammering migraine}

barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name

barlo_blake hehe

I create this thread for the mod to reconsider the ban against sumangs because you told me that using barlo357 while my main account sumangs was banned is considered a ban evasion. So, in order for this account to not be considered as ban evasive account, I must remove the ban on my main account by making a ban appeal. Once the ban was removed, this account wouldnt be considered as ban evasive anymore.

For some people, instead of focusing on the main reason why my main account was banned, which is the rule #13, they are more focus on the accounts I was connected to while my main account was banned.

They're focusing on the accounts connected and that you used instead of on rule #13 is because the accounts are quite a pile. It indicated that you're --one may argue-- a prolific ban evader. The decision to lift the ban is completely on the hand of mods, although they'll quite likely listen to the community's opinion and take it to their consideration alongside with the reputation and the contribution made by the account in question.

My apology, but I have to agree with bitcoingirl, you're digging your hole, a massive one, because it is revealed that you're not only utilizing barlo and sumangs, there are couple other accounts you "borrowed" as well. One that came to my mind that perhaps could help us understand you --and from it, you helping yourself with this case-- is probably to explain why you use and borrow those accounts instead of appealing for the ban to be lifted on the first place? Why now? You said and I quote,

I'm going to appeal in few days. I hope they would unban me since it was my first time managing an announcement thread and I don't know spamming would get a ban without any warnings.

So you, finally, already have a plan --in a few days after the deleted post above was made-- to appeal, why didn't this initiative came to you when sumangs got banned years ago?

I sent an appeal via email last 2019 but there is no response. I also sent a follow up to know if they are working on my ban appeal but still no response. I still send ban appeals while borrowing accounts but there is really no response. You didnt ask if i appeal before but this was my first time appealing thru posting on meta.

I knew before that the proper appeal was via email and not thru posting on meta back then. I saw ban appeals on meta but I didnt like to address my issue publicly before because people are just shaming the defendant and most of their bans are not getting removed.

[FatFork]

I sent an appeal via email last 2019 but there is no response. I also sent a follow up to know if they are working on my ban appeal but still no response. I still send ban appeals while borrowing accounts but there is really no response. You didnt ask if i appeal before but this was my first time appealing thru posting on meta.

I knew before that the proper appeal was via email and not thru posting on meta back then. I saw ban appeals on meta but I didnt like to address my issue publicly before because people are just shaming the defendant and most of their bans are not getting removed.

Your account was banned about four years ago, during a wave of permanent bans primarily related to plagiarism. Once banned, you cannot use any other accounts on the forum except for one to create a ban appeal thread in the meta section. Creating additional posts in other threads with other accounts is also a bannable offense.

Regarding your claim of being banned for excessive bumping of Solarex_ICO, it is incorrect. Upon reviewing your post history, I found at least two clear cases of copy-paste plagiarism, which you seem to have forgotten.

An example:

According to the Ridge Times, the  Southern part of Africa is facing various forms of electricity theft resulting in an average loss of up to R20 billion ($1.5 billion) per annum. The local publication states that bypassing of electric meters and consumers, mainly in informal settlements, illegally connecting themselves to the national grid are the two types of electricity theft most common in this part of Africa.
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Source: https://www.smart-energy.com/features-analysis/electricity-theft-south-africa/

Instances of copy-paste plagiarism like yours usually led to permanent bans. And, appealing such bans rarely resulted in them being lifted. What complicates your case even further is the fact that you resorted to "borrowing" other people's accounts to continue posting on the forum after your main account was banned. People have also discovered more of the alt accounts you've used in the past, which doesn't look good for you. Even though you deny association with some of the mentioned accounts, especially the ones that are already banned, the evidence suggests otherwise.

For example, you claim you don't know why BTCedgar (alt of btsjimin and btsjungkook) used your BTC address, but the timestamps of these posts clearly show that you copied his message, not the other way around.

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

You two are the only ones on the forum who have ever used that specific phrase: "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.", and his message came first. So, even if it were true that he used your address, for some inexplicable reason, it is highly unlikely that you wouldn't have noticed it since you copied his message.

Besides, your account barlo357 and btsjungkook (alt of BTCedgar) were created on the same day, which makes this kind of coincidence even less likely.

Code: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1193282)

Date Registered: 	October 07, 2017, 05:11:18 AM

Code: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194486)

Date Registered: 	October 07, 2017, 03:13:25 PM

Considering all the factors at hand, as much as I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt, it appears that your case for appeal is quite weak. Sorry.

[barlo357]

I sent an appeal via email last 2019 but there is no response. I also sent a follow up to know if they are working on my ban appeal but still no response. I still send ban appeals while borrowing accounts but there is really no response. You didnt ask if i appeal before but this was my first time appealing thru posting on meta.

I knew before that the proper appeal was via email and not thru posting on meta back then. I saw ban appeals on meta but I didnt like to address my issue publicly before because people are just shaming the defendant and most of their bans are not getting removed.

Your account was banned about four years ago, during a wave of permanent bans primarily related to plagiarism. Once banned, you cannot use any other accounts on the forum except for one to create a ban appeal thread in the meta section. Creating additional posts in other threads with other accounts is also a bannable offense.

Regarding your claim of being banned for excessive bumping of Solarex_ICO, it is incorrect. Upon reviewing your post history, I found at least two clear cases of copy-paste plagiarism, which you seem to have forgotten.

An example:

According to the Ridge Times, the  Southern part of Africa is facing various forms of electricity theft resulting in an average loss of up to R20 billion ($1.5 billion) per annum. The local publication states that bypassing of electric meters and consumers, mainly in informal settlements, illegally connecting themselves to the national grid are the two types of electricity theft most common in this part of Africa.
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Source: https://www.smart-energy.com/features-analysis/electricity-theft-south-africa/

Instances of copy-paste plagiarism like yours usually led to permanent bans.

Plagiarism issue:

This was for the announcement thread and the things I posted there doesn't come from my own. I was posting on behalf of solarex since I was a moderator of that thread. I was just assigned to post those shits. I thought there would be some exceptions when it comes to announcement threads since it was for altcoin promotion and updates. If I only knew this would not end well, then I would just reject being a thread moderator and focus only on bounty management.

There is no plagiarism applied on all of my post aside from that announcement thread.

(Honest mistake)

If only the reason for ban was well-explained to me on the messages, then I could make an accurate appeal regarding on my ban. Not just banning along with ambiguous statement like

You have been permanently banned by a forum moderator, probably due to spam or plagiarism. You may appeal here, but your chances are not good: banappeals...@bitcointalk.org

And, appealing such bans rarely resulted in them being lifted. What complicates your case even further is the fact that you resorted to "borrowing" other people's accounts to continue posting on the forum after your main account was banned. People have also discovered more of the alt accounts you've used in the past, which doesn't look good for you. Even though you deny association with some of the mentioned accounts, especially the ones that are already banned, the evidence suggests otherwise.

For example, you claim you don't know why BTCedgar (alt of btsjimin and btsjungkook) used your BTC address, but the timestamps of these posts clearly show that you copied his message, not the other way around.

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

You two are the only ones on the forum who have ever used that specific phrase: "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.", and his message came first. So, even if it were true that he used your address, for some inexplicable reason, it is highly unlikely that you wouldn't have noticed it since you copied his message.

Besides, your account barlo357 and btsjungkook (alt of BTCedgar) were created on the same day, which makes this kind of coincidence even less likely.

Code: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1193282)

Date Registered: 	October 07, 2017, 05:11:18 AM

Code: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194486)

Date Registered: 	October 07, 2017, 03:13:25 PM

Considering all the factors at hand, as much as I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt, it appears that your case for appeal is quite weak. Sorry.

For example, you claim you don't know why BTCedgar (alt of btsjimin and btsjungkook) used your BTC address, but the timestamps of these posts clearly show that you copied his message, not the other way around.

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

You two are the only ones on the forum who have ever used that specific phrase: "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.", and his message came first. So, even if it were true that he used your address, for some inexplicable reason, it is highly unlikely that you wouldn't have noticed it since you copied his message.

BTC wallet address issue:

btcedgar was obviously an alt of btsjungkook since he was posting on behalf of his account since the btsjungkook was banned during the bounty campaign of C

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg25633998#msg25633998 (on: December 02, 2017, 11:09:51 PM)

Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: btsjungkook
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194486
Rank: Member
Starting post Count: 93
Date of Join:  Dec 2, 2017
Bitcoin address: 36sihysgLLbHfxzJR1pyrWxEeSquuTRToz

He was the first who joined the C bounty campaign but the bitcoin wallet address was different before he posted using my btc wallet address, 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg25761029#msg25761029 (on: December 05, 2017, 05:29:14 AM)

Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888;sa=account
Rank: Full member
Starting post Count: 385(INCLUDING THIS POST)
Date of Join: December 5 2017
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
Eth address: 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42

I was the first one who use that btc wallet for the C bounty campaign and as you can see that the eth address is different from them,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26406759#msg26406759 (on: December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM)

Edit: my account was already banned in 7days only and i can't not edit my work.
Day 11:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2520981.msg26128245#msg26128245 Post Count : 116
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2043676.msg26141743#msg26141743 Post Count : 117
Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

My eth address, 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42 is the one that I'm using for most of the signature campaigns that I joined.

Summary:

btsjungkook's btc wallet December 02, 2017, 11:09:51 PM 36sihysgLLbHfxzJR1pyrWxEeSquuTRToz
sumangs's btc wallet December 05, 2017, 05:29:14 AM 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
sumangs's eth wallet December 05, 2017, 05:29:14 AM 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42
btcedgar's btc wallet December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
btcedgar's eth wallet December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942

"Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment." issue:

There are 6 post between btcedgar and sumangs:

btcedgar's post December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM

1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26407838#msg26407838 December 16, 2017, 02:40:50 AM
2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26408369#msg26408369 December 16, 2017, 03:04:14 AM
3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409135#msg26409135 December 16, 2017, 03:33:13 AM
4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409439#msg26409439 December 16, 2017, 03:44:21 AM
5 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409493#msg26409493 December 16, 2017, 03:46:24 AM
6 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409707#msg26409707 December 16, 2017, 03:53:16 AM

sumang's post December 16, 2017, 04:13:48 AM

Before I post a reply, there is a topic summary below where I can check if I'm doing the right thing. I saw a post that quotes this from the OP:

Quote from: Ehrhc on December 01, 2017, 11:38:52 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg25546112#msg25546112

IMPORTANT: This is optional >>> Because of BTC high transaction fees, you can change your BTC address to ETH Address, we will pay you same amount based on BTC exchange rate to USD the moment of sending.(If you want, else we will send BTC to the address we have.)

from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409135#msg26409135

It wasn't there during the initial post, but the OP edited it since the bitcoin's price was skyrocketing that time. The OP might be confused if I want btc or eth as a payment for my bounty work since I stated both btc and eth address on my post, so I was finding someone with the same situation as me where they also include their eth address where I saw one, but he/she didn't state if he wants btc or eth as a payment. Then there is one post that I saw where btcedgar stated "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment." where I copied it and inserted it on my post so that the OP will know that I also want btc as a payment. I saw the same btc wallet address but I wasn't worried at first since I was the one who posted it before him until you guys used it against me and accused me that it was my alt.

barlo357 and btsjungkook account creation issue:

This is only a coincidence. I really have no idea about btsjungkook's account creation. I wasn't there when the real owner of barlo357 created this account. He just informed me that he created a bitcointalk account and guide him. During the time btsjungkook was on the C bounty campaign where he joined on december 2017, barlo357 was on INS bounty campaign where he joined on october 2017 until january 2018 and joined smt bounty campaign after (ins and smt were under deadley's bounty management).

P.S. This thread made me fucking exhausted from remembering the actions I did before. If there's really a low chance for my main account to be unbanned, then this is not worth trying and just move on from this forum.

[light_warrior]

~snip~

Here I am wondering why your partner, Solarex_ICO, as you claim, has not written anything here. Contact him, let him write something in your defense. Although it seems to me that it is useless in your case.

I wasn't there when the real owner of barlo357 created this account.

Oh, my friend, so your account is bought. I'm liking the way you're tightening the "noose around your neck" more and more

P.S. This thread made me fucking exhausted from remembering the actions I did before. If there's really a low chance for my main account to be unbanned, then this is not worth trying and just move on from this forum.

The first only correct words written by you in this topic

[barlo357]

~snip~

Here I am wondering why your partner, Solarex_ICO, as you claim, has not written anything here. Contact him, let him write something in your defense. Although it seems to me that it is useless in your case.

I wasn't there when the real owner of barlo357 created this account.

Oh, my friend, so your account is bought. I'm liking the way you're tightening the "noose around your neck" more and more

I’m only working for solarex_ico in this forum as bounty manager and ann thread moderator. I have no contact anymore after the project is dead. The last time we made contact is thru telegram where he was sending me the stuffs that I post in the announcement thread.

The account isn’t bought. Have you really read the whole thread? LOL! It was borrowed and later renounced ownership to me by a family member. I just said that I was not around when he created it since we are not in the same house and you just making conclusions that it was bought. The forum was popular back then and I told this to my family members so that they can have extra income too. As a college student during that time, it was really a big help for me to lessen the school expenses.

Are there still any questions you want to ask?

[Pmalek]

I don't think your chances of getting your account or accounts unbanned and reinstated are good. Many people have been banned in the past for plagiarism-related offences and very few are forgiven. Even if it's true that you worked as a bounty manager and ANN poster for that ICO, you still copied their texts and posted them in your name, which makes it look like you wrote them. All that you had to do to not get in trouble was to post a link to the source or make it clear you aren't the owner of those posts.

Even if the admins were to look past those plagiarism cases, there is still the multiple ban evasions. You borrowed and used alt accounts to request loans on the forum, which wasn't allowed according to forum rules. You participated in other activities outside of a ban evasion thread, which is also not allowed.

Admins sometimes forgive users who have greatly contributed to Bitcointalk but made a mistake. If you dodge and don't respect the rules to continue earning on the forum, they generally don't look that lightly on that sort of thing.   

[barlo357]

I don't think your chances of getting your account or accounts unbanned and reinstated are good. Many people have been banned in the past for plagiarism-related offences and very few are forgiven. Even if it's true that you worked as a bounty manager and ANN poster for that ICO, you still copied their texts and posted them in your name, which makes it look like you wrote them. All that you had to do to not get in trouble was to post a link to the source or make it clear you aren't the owner of those posts.

Even if the admins were to look past those plagiarism cases, there is still the multiple ban evasions. You borrowed and used alt accounts to request loans on the forum, which wasn't allowed according to forum rules. You participated in other activities outside of a ban evasion thread, which is also not allowed.

Admins sometimes forgive users who have greatly contributed to Bitcointalk but made a mistake. If you dodge and don't respect the rules to continue earning on the forum, they generally don't look that lightly on that sort of thing.   

Honest mistake on plagiarism issue. I just do copy paste that time from the stuffs given to me to post it on the ann thread without checking the source. I was shocked that it was from another website that I didn't visit even once.

There are still many users evading bans that do their normal thing without being caught. I admit that I use another account without knowing that it was illegal here, so I tried to appeal again even though it was too late and almost impossible to unban since I already posting on other threads outside meta.

If admins won't unban me then I just move on and focus on trading crypto again.

[decodx]

Honest mistake on plagiarism issue. I just do copy paste that time from the stuffs given to me to post it on the ann thread without checking the source. I was shocked that it was from another website that I didn't visit even once.

Posting with your own account remains your personal responsibility, and I can't find any valid justification to suggest otherwise. Moreover, as a thread moderator, you hold an even greater responsibility towards the forum community. Promoting a project that turns out to be a scam reflects poorly on your role as a moderator. It only takes a quick Google search, which takes less than ten seconds, to verify if the content you're sharing is plagiarized or stolen from elsewhere.

There are still many users evading bans that do their normal thing without being caught.

I can't help but wonder if you might be one of them.

I admit that I use another account without knowing that it was illegal here, so I tried to appeal again even though it was too late and almost impossible to unban since I already posting on other threads outside meta.

If admins won't unban me then I just move on and focus on trading crypto again.

If you're hoping to get the admins to reconsider your ban, you'll need to demonstrate that your contributions have had a positive impact and that lifting the ban would actually benefit the community. But, it seems quite unlikely that you can effectively make a compelling argument in this regard.